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Len P. from espn just reported the colts have informed Edge that they will be attempting to trade him, due to salary constrictions. where does edge land?
Probably a 2nd and 5th round pick again.THe #2 and Surtain MIGHT be enough for the Colts.
Colin
This deal might work.... Colts grab Ronnie Brown at #2 and plug him right in.THe #2 and Surtain MIGHT be enough for the Colts.
Colin
You beat me to it Colin Exactly what I was going to suggest.THe #2 and Surtain MIGHT be enough for the Colts.
Colin
why not grab another difference maker on D in johnson, and get a more than adequate back in round 2 like arrington? besides, rhodes already showed when he was a rookie that he can handle the feature back role.the colts need help on defense, not offense.This deal might work.... Colts grab Ronnie Brown at #2 and plug him right in.THe #2 and Surtain MIGHT be enough for the Colts.
Colin
Travis Henry does not fit in Indi at all. They need a versatile RB, and Henry is as far from versatile as it gets.Travis Henry.......stand by
You can't be serious...THe #2 and Surtain MIGHT be enough for the Colts.
Colin
I agree with you, but their philosophy seems to be "You can't get enough offense." With the amount of money they've poured into Manning and the WR corps, I don't think they'd want to hamstring them by complementing them with a sub-par running attack. The only way I see them making this move is if they think they can plug another franchise back in Edge's place. They would have to think someone on their roster or in the draft would fit that bill, and of all those choices, I see Ronnie Brown as the most likely.why not grab another difference maker on D in johnson, and get a more than adequate back in round 2 like arrington? besides, rhodes already showed when he was a rookie that he can handle the feature back role.the colts need help on defense, not offense.This deal might work.... Colts grab Ronnie Brown at #2 and plug him right in.THe #2 and Surtain MIGHT be enough for the Colts.
Colin
PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN !Travis Henry.......stand by
beat me to it...i see james getting traded for some defensive help
Based on this, I would say Edge for Surtain stright up is a real possibility, and I would be fine with that..."Basically, they said that with the stadium, their salary cap situation, they could not make us a proposal beyond the qualifying offer," Rosenhaus said. "And Bill made it pretty clear he would entertain trade offers and, in fact, said he would consider trading 'Edge' for less than a first-round draft choice. I told him that I intended to get the word out about where the Colts stood on this and he encouraged me to do so. I would say this is a pretty significant development."
I guess that should be a good indication that it wouldn't take the #2 overall pick and Surtain to get the deal done.
Oh... now this, I didn't know. This may indicate that they have full confidence in him to get the job done.If that's the case, Rhodes stock goes way up while Manning, Harrison, and Wayne drop some.also, i should point out that the colts gave rhodes a 2 year 4.75 mil/2 mil signing bonus deal a few weeks ago. i think they were anticipating this all along. that's an awful lot to pay someone to be a backup RB.
You think? If the Colts do that, they're morons.Based on this, I would say Edge for Surtain stright up is a real possibility, and I would be fine with that..."Basically, they said that with the stadium, their salary cap situation, they could not make us a proposal beyond the qualifying offer," Rosenhaus said. "And Bill made it pretty clear he would entertain trade offers and, in fact, said he would consider trading 'Edge' for less than a first-round draft choice. I told him that I intended to get the word out about where the Colts stood on this and he encouraged me to do so. I would say this is a pretty significant development."
I guess that should be a good indication that it wouldn't take the #2 overall pick and Surtain to get the deal done.
Enter - Rick SpielmanWhen a GM is quoted in an article saying he would "consider taking LESS than a 1st round pick as compensation", NO team in their right mind is going to offer up a high first rounder PLUS a pro bowl position player.
Exactly, did someone hijack Colin's login or was he being sarcastic.When a GM is quoted in an article saying he would "consider taking LESS than a 1st round pick as compensation", NO team in their right mind is going to offer up a high first rounder PLUS a pro bowl position player.
MAYBE a straight up trade... but it would really depend on James contract demands! The Dolphins don't have the QB/O-Line/Cap space to be mortgaging the future to make him the highest paid RB in the league. Not when we could take our chances w/ a fresh legged #2 draft pick RB.I'm on the fence right now on this Edge thing. IND/SEA/KC and MIA should make the next couple of days very interesting.Based on this, I would say Edge for Surtain stright up is a real possibility, and I would be fine with that..."Basically, they said that with the stadium, their salary cap situation, they could not make us a proposal beyond the qualifying offer," Rosenhaus said. "And Bill made it pretty clear he would entertain trade offers and, in fact, said he would consider trading 'Edge' for less than a first-round draft choice. I told him that I intended to get the word out about where the Colts stood on this and he encouraged me to do so. I would say this is a pretty significant development."
I guess that should be a good indication that it wouldn't take the #2 overall pick and Surtain to get the deal done.
I agree, but based on the fact that Edge seems so unhappy in Indianapolis right now and the fact that he seems to be BIG on coming back home to Miami -- I think he would be willing to restructure for us after a trade...MAYBE a straight up trade... but it would really depend on James contract demands! The Dolphins don't have the QB/O-Line/Cap space to be mortgaging the future to make him the highest paid RB in the league. Not when we could take our chances w/ a fresh legged #2 draft pick RB.I'm on the fence right now on this Edge thing. IND/SEA/KC and MIA should make the next couple of days very interesting.Based on this, I would say Edge for Surtain stright up is a real possibility, and I would be fine with that..."Basically, they said that with the stadium, their salary cap situation, they could not make us a proposal beyond the qualifying offer," Rosenhaus said. "And Bill made it pretty clear he would entertain trade offers and, in fact, said he would consider trading 'Edge' for less than a first-round draft choice. I told him that I intended to get the word out about where the Colts stood on this and he encouraged me to do so. I would say this is a pretty significant development."
I guess that should be a good indication that it wouldn't take the #2 overall pick and Surtain to get the deal done.
If the Colts get the #2 and Surtain the Dolphins better be getting Edge and the Colts 1st and 2nd round pick or they are pretty dumb IMHO.#2 overall pick + a top tier CB seems pretty steep price for a RB with the kind of mileage that Edge has, along with his knee injury.
Edge has shown that he's a quality back and he seems to be back close to where he was before he got hurt, but he's not the gamebreaker that is worth that kind of asking price. If Miami got the Colts 1st or 2nd round pick, I could see it happening.
I posted before the link/story were posted. I find it odd that the Colts basically gave up any leverage they had in the matter by saying, "there's no money and we'll take less than top value for him." Somewhat odd in my opinion. At a minimum, say, "We're pleased to have Edgerrin for one more year and unless someone blows us away with an offer, we're excited to have him be a Colt in 2005."Odd.Exactly, did someone hijack Colin's login or was he being sarcastic.When a GM is quoted in an article saying he would "consider taking LESS than a 1st round pick as compensation", NO team in their right mind is going to offer up a high first rounder PLUS a pro bowl position player.
No, Indi will want a versatile RB.Cross off either Henry/Davenport/A-Train.How about Davenport??
define "versatile". Davenport runs, blocks, and is a pretty decent receiver. What more do you need? Oh yeah, he's cheap. too.No, Indi will want a versatile RB.Cross off either Henry/Davenport/A-Train.How about Davenport??
That's odd considering how well he did coming in as a rookie after Edge blew out his knee. But maybe since his own knee injury he's not as solid??I want to add that I heard one personnel man recently on either Sirius NFL radio or ESPN radio... I don't recall if it was Pat Kirwin or Randy Mueller... but one of them strongly opined that Rhodes is best suited strictly as a backup/3rd down back, and that he would have only modest success as a full-time, 25 carries-a-game guy.
Davenport is not a recieving threat. I also don't believe he will ever be the kind of RB who can be the main guy. He has a style that gets him hurt constantly, he can't be counted on. I've watched every single Packers game and would be shocked if a team every brought him in as their starter. He may get some opportunity due to injury, but will never be the answer as a feature RB.define "versatile". Davenport runs, blocks, and is a pretty decent receiver. What more do you need? Oh yeah, he's cheap. too.No, Indi will want a versatile RB.Cross off either Henry/Davenport/A-Train.How about Davenport??
Doesn't he have a chronic shoulder injury?That's odd considering how well he did coming in as a rookie after Edge blew out his knee. But maybe since his own knee injury he's not as solid??I want to add that I heard one personnel man recently on either Sirius NFL radio or ESPN radio... I don't recall if it was Pat Kirwin or Randy Mueller... but one of them strongly opined that Rhodes is best suited strictly as a backup/3rd down back, and that he would have only modest success as a full-time, 25 carries-a-game guy.
Couldn't agree more. DR looks nice when he comes in fresh, (at least sometimes, but not when Teddy Bruschi is stripping him of the rock in the AFC Divisional ), but that is a big difference between being a workhorse. Oakland might find this out the hard way in 2005.That's odd considering how well he did coming in as a rookie after Edge blew out his knee. But maybe since his own knee injury he's not as solid??I want to add that I heard one personnel man recently on either Sirius NFL radio or ESPN radio... I don't recall if it was Pat Kirwin or Randy Mueller... but one of them strongly opined that Rhodes is best suited strictly as a backup/3rd down back, and that he would have only modest success as a full-time, 25 carries-a-game guy.
I'll admit, there's an injury history there, but when healthy, Davenport has produced when given the chance. He does everything well except stay healthy.Davenport is not a recieving threat. I also don't believe he will ever be the kind of RB who can be the main guy. He has a style that gets him hurt constantly, he can't be counted on. I've watched every single Packers game and would be shocked if a team every brought him in as their starter. He may get some opportunity due to injury, but will never be the answer as a feature RB.define "versatile". Davenport runs, blocks, and is a pretty decent receiver. What more do you need? Oh yeah, he's cheap. too.No, Indi will want a versatile RB.Cross off either Henry/Davenport/A-Train.How about Davenport??
Are you saying you would flat out not draft edge in any circumstance if he were a dolphin?Even if he were a third rounder? C'mon now...If this happens, just one more guy to avoid in fantasy drafts...
They sure are making it easy on us this year...
I don't see why people would hate Edge going to Miami. He would get a ton of carries and likely get more TD's than he did in Indi since he would be their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and so on option at the goaline.Also he would be happy and very motivated back in Miami.Are you saying you would flat out not draft edge in any circumstance if he were a dolphin?Even if he were a third rounder? C'mon now...If this happens, just one more guy to avoid in fantasy drafts...
They sure are making it easy on us this year...