Seems like NFL network has one or times every year where they have an interview during an event that people actually want to see. While its overrated in its draft impact, I do want to see 40 yards not just to see tyhe pure speed, but how fluid these guys are when they run.no times given during Cam newton invterviewIngram ran again, no high stepping this time 4.58 first, no time givenback to Cam interview
I'm down to vision as far as separating the best RB's from the rest. A lot of the big names all look about the same as far as speed and size.Todman 4.44 first, didn't hear time if they said itVereen 4.51 first, 4.47
Yeah that Cam interview totally didn't have to be aired live. That was a real bad choice IMO.Seems like NFL network has one or times every year where they have an interview during an event that people actually want to see. While its overrated in its draft impact, I do want to see 40 yards not just to see tyhe pure speed, but how fluid these guys are when they run.no times given during Cam newton invterviewIngram ran again, no high stepping this time 4.58 first, no time givenback to Cam interview
I think this is a weak class when traditionally compared to workhorse backs. However, I think there's a ton of 3rd down backs and there's nothing wrong with that. Those guys would be real useful to their teams. I'm leery though that teams are going to miscast these guys and they'll have short careers being labeled ineffectiveI'm down to vision as far as separating the best RB's from the rest. A lot of the big names all look about the same as far as speed and size.Todman 4.44 first, didn't hear time if they said itVereen 4.51 first, 4.47
At the same time he was awful with a guy in his face or near his feet and his passes were off all day long. And he showed the mobility/escapability of a statue back there. Heyward was dominating him coming through the line.And he does have those character/personality issues. Sorry that you can't handle that there is risk there with this guy.'Bojang0301 said:Ryan Mallet is the most polished thrower in this class. If Jay Cutler and Eli Manning can have success in the NFL, Ryan Mallett can have success in the NFL. He certainly didn't lay down and die against Ohio State. In fact, had his receivers caught the damn ball they probably would have won all on his shoulders. It is foolish to dismiss him because you like comparing anyone with a bunk personality to Ryan Leaf and Jeff George.
It wasn't just one bad presser that did this to him.'Bri said:I think he was simply mentioning two that panned out. Mallett has been compared to every bust in the history of football after one bad presser so the negatives are super exaggerated right now'King of the Jungle said:What is the correlation between Eli / Cutler / Mallett?'Bojang0301 said:Ryan Mallet is the most polished thrower in this class. If Jay Cutler and Eli Manning can have success in the NFL, Ryan Mallett can have success in the NFL. He certainly didn't lay down and die against Ohio State. In fact, had his receivers caught the damn ball they probably would have won all on his shoulders. It is foolish to dismiss him because you like comparing anyone with a bunk personality to Ryan Leaf and Jeff George.
With the RBBC the current flavor, a lot of them will get plenty of reps. New Orleans went thru 8 RBs last year. Makes it tougher in FF. I'm going with whoever had the ability to take it to the house. The 25 carry 100 yard RB is gone from the NFL right now.I think this is a weak class when traditionally compared to workhorse backs. However, I think there's a ton of 3rd down backs and there's nothing wrong with that. Those guys would be real useful to their teams. I'm leery though that teams are going to miscast these guys and they'll have short careers being labeled ineffectiveI'm down to vision as far as separating the best RB's from the rest. A lot of the big names all look about the same as far as speed and size.Todman 4.44 first, didn't hear time if they said itVereen 4.51 first, 4.47
If you saw poise in that game vs. OSU...not sure you watched the same game.I saw a guy flustered with anyguy near him who through terribly in the face of pressure (and yes, his WRs did him no favors on other passes either).'Bojang0301 said:I simply disagree. It's tough to take away anything from just one game but Cam Heywood was on Mallet's ### all night and he stood in the pocket and delivered. His WR's failed him that night. I saw a poised guy who made more than one throw that I don't think Newton nor Gabbert could make. I can't wait to see Waldman's take. I may be wrong but Mallett's talent as a pure passer is impressive to me.'Kai said:Mallet will never be a NFL QB. He doesn't have the head for it and the kid can't handle pressure from the front 7, is a terrible decision maker and is inaccurate on the run.'Bojang0301 said:He may be the only passer in the draft that can make the ridiculous throws that only the best of the best can make.'King of the Jungle said:What is the correlation between Eli / Cutler / Mallett?'Bojang0301 said:Ryan Mallet is the most polished thrower in this class. If Jay Cutler and Eli Manning can have success in the NFL, Ryan Mallett can have success in the NFL. He certainly didn't lay down and die against Ohio State. In fact, had his receivers caught the damn ball they probably would have won all on his shoulders. It is foolish to dismiss him because you like comparing anyone with a bunk personality to Ryan Leaf and Jeff George.
Brandon Saine - Ohio State. Mr. Ohio in Football. Big, fast, not very shifty. Strong though. Interesting player, but not much of a track record at OSU due to injuries/Pryor/Boom Herron splitting time due to lack of confidence in his ability to stay healthy. Watch his games and its obvious he'd be fast, but if his agility were as good as his speed/size, he'd be a top-three RB in this draft. It's not though.Who is Sayne? Didn't see him, his time really stood out to announcers
I think he is ok as a rusher...but I want him for what you said...returns and 3rd down. (perfect fit if GB lets Jackson go and Murray falls in the 2nd...this 40 time makes that much less likely now)>Had no clue what he'd run, but I just don't think he's a good rusher. :(I see him more as a kickoff/potential 3rd down guy.--------Ingram with 4.51. Not bad at all.Colour me shocked DeMarco Murray ran in the 4.3s. I would have guessed he could run in the 4.3s in his freshman season, but the past couple seasons it looked like the injuries had caught up with him and he looked much slower than earlier in his career. I was thinking he was going to run in the 4.5s or 4.6s.
And yet he dresses out as if he's going to compete? The guy misses the senior bowl and scratches the 40.He'll be 24 a few weeks after opening day.Big guy that runs small.And he's a fumbling machine that handles the football like a live grenade. Refuses to place his index finger on the point of the ball. Horrific running mechanics.Daniel Thomas is the Jonathan Dwyer of the 2011 RB class. Welcome to the 3rd day DT...Statement re Thomas was he had an injury (hammy?) a few weeks ago and didn't think he was 100% so he's waiting for his pro day
Impressive straight ahead, but doesn't make guys miss. (Something I think Quiz does)I think Murray can be a decent kickoff return/3rd down back. (I think if Quiz gets an opportunity via injury or whatever the circumstance, could be more than that)I'll take Murray.:( 40's more for show.I'd take Quiz all day, any day over Demarco Murray (who I believe just ran in the 4.3's) in fantasy.
you're crazy and if you're right, put him down for ROY the day of the draft thenIngram stock dropping. Would be shocked to see him go before late round one.4.6 and 31" vert. Looks sloppy in agility drills.Top 2 picks in dynasty drafts should be the stud wr's.
Ok. I'll talk this bum up at our draft.And yet he dresses out as if he's going to compete? The guy misses the senior bowl and scratches the 40.He'll be 24 a few weeks after opening day.Big guy that runs small.And he's a fumbling machine that handles the football like a live grenade. Refuses to place his index finger on the point of the ball. Horrific running mechanics.Daniel Thomas is the Jonathan Dwyer of the 2011 RB class. Welcome to the 3rd day DT...Statement re Thomas was he had an injury (hammy?) a few weeks ago and didn't think he was 100% so he's waiting for his pro day
Looks like 4.57What did Dion Lewis run in the 40?
No, when he gets on the field he disappears. He's an athlete, not a football player.I've liked what Terrance Toliver has shown so far during the Combine.Good hands in the gauntlet, a 4.52 40 and a fluid three-cone showing. Does anyone agree with me that he could be a steal in the mid-rounds?
Play maker, but not a consistent one. I think he's solid fall back option if teams miss on Jernigan and Cobb.Mario Fannin...231 LBS and a 4.37! What's this guys outlook in the NFL?
Twitter Rich Eisen. He'll know.In that zig zag drill Ingram sounded like he was yelling something in German. Anyone know what he was saying?
I agree. Nothing Ingram did surprised me. He's a terrific RB prospect with outstanding quickness (as evidenced by his 10-yard split), strength, & vision. This kid reminds me so much of Emmitt, only bigger & stronger.Ingram is a lock to be a stud, IMO.you're crazy and if you're right, put him down for ROY the day of the draft thenIngram stock dropping. Would be shocked to see him go before late round one.4.6 and 31" vert. Looks sloppy in agility drills.Top 2 picks in dynasty drafts should be the stud wr's.
He's going to be a great coach, but he's not an NFL player. Once Boom started getting it Saine's PT got cut because he's just not that special of a talent. Should be a decent 3rd down/#2 or #3 back though.Brandon Saine - Ohio State. Mr. Ohio in Football. Big, fast, not very shifty. Strong though. Interesting player, but not much of a track record at OSU due to injuries/Pryor/Boom Herron splitting time due to lack of confidence in his ability to stay healthy. Watch his games and its obvious he'd be fast, but if his agility were as good as his speed/size, he'd be a top-three RB in this draft. It's not though.Who is Sayne? Didn't see him, his time really stood out to announcers