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I'd like to think as a country there's still enough commonality between us to draft basic standards outlining what is unacceptable. And by that I mean overt calls for "dead cops" by an angry mob marching through the streets. Can't we all agree that at a minimum something like this should be prosecuted?
No.
You know, I've developed a coping mechanism to deal with you. I just look at your avatar and imagine all these answers coming from the cat. It works.
Should Ice-T have been prosecuted for Cop Killer?
We can't even convict cops for actual murders caught on tape, but we want to convict people based on thoughts and words.

 
I'd like to think as a country there's still enough commonality between us to draft basic standards outlining what is unacceptable. And by that I mean overt calls for "dead cops" by an angry mob marching through the streets. Can't we all agree that at a minimum something like this should be prosecuted?
No.
You know, I've developed a coping mechanism to deal with you. I just look at your avatar and imagine all these answers coming from the cat. It works.
Should Ice-T have been prosecuted for Cop Killer?
We can't even convict cops for actual murders caught on tape, but we want to convict people based on thoughts and words.
I think it was Donovan who stated that first there is a 1st Amendment then there's no Amendment, then there is.

 
NYC mayor: 'Put aside protests' after officer deathsNew York Mayor Bill de Blasio sought to cool the heated controversy swirling around the fatal shootings of two police officers, calling Monday for New Yorkers to "put aside protests" and focus on the families of the fallen patrolmen.

"These families are now our family and we will stand by them," de Blasio said at a fundraising luncheon for the Police Athletic League. "They are suffering unbelievable pain right now."

He reinforced the message later in a news conference with top police officials after visiting the families of the two officers slain by gunfire as they sat in their patrol car Saturday.

"This is a time for every New Yorker to think about these families,'' de Blasio said. "Put aside protests, put aside demonstrations until these funerals are past. Let's focus just on these families and what they have lost.'

Tensions between de Blasio and his 35,000-member police force have grown stronger since Ismaaiyl Brinsley, 28, fatally shot officers Wenjian Liu, 32, and Rafael Ramos, 40, as they sat in their patrol car Saturday. Brinsley, pursued by other officers, turned the gun on himself moments later.

As the mayor made his plea, funeral arrangements were underway for the slain officers. A viewing is scheduled for Ramos at Christ Tabernacle Church in Queens, N.Y., for Friday afternoon and evening and a funeral at the same church scheduled for 10 a.m. Saturday, according to NYPD. Arrangements for Wenjian Liu were still being made as relatives travel from China.

In Washington, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder called the slayings "an unspeakable act of barbarism.''

"This cowardly attack underscores the dangers that are routinely faced by those who protect and serve their fellow citizens,'' Holder said. "As a nation we must not forget this as we discuss the events of the recent past. These courageous men and women routinely incur tremendous personal risks, and place their lives on the line each and every day, in order to preserve public safety. We are forever in their debt.''

At a news conference with the mayor, Robert Boyce, chief of detectives for New York police in Manhattan, said investigators had found more than a thousand images on the shooter's cell phone, including a short video that he apparently shot as a spectator to protests against police in New York on Dec. 1.

Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said investigators believe the shooter acted alone and was "a sole operator,'' but are still trying to piece together how Brinsley spent his final two hours in New York City before the attack. Anyone who may have seen him or has information was asked to contact police. De Blasio called the shooter "a deeply troubled career criminal.''

Before his rampage, Brinsley purportedly posted a comment on an Instagram account saying he planned to kill police officers as revenge for the deaths of Eric Garner and Michael Brown — unarmed black men killed by white officers in recent months.

Some officers believe de Blasio failed to properly support police after a Staten Island grand jury this month declined to indict an officer in the chokehold death of Garner. When de Blasio went to the hospital in the hours after Ramos and Liu were shot, officers who gathered there turned their backs on the mayor.

Patrick Lynch, president of the officers' union, said there was "blood on the hands" of de Blasio.

"I think it's important that regardless of people's viewpoints that everyone realizes it's time to step back and focus on these families," de Blasio said. "It's time to pause political debates, to put aside protests."

The families are eligible for federal death benefits of more than $300,000 each. Attorney General Eric Holder has directed program officials to reach out to the officers' survivors to assist in submitting their claims.

Earlier Monday, Police Commissioner Bill Bratton rejected claims that de Blasio has failed to sufficiently support his officers and thus increased the dangers officers face on the street.

"I don't believe that at all," Bratton told NBC's Today, adding that the department in 2014 received "over $400 million outside of my normal budget to improve our training, to improve our facilities, to acquire technology."

Bratton said he did not believe the hospital protest was appropriate. "But it's reflective of the anger of some of them," Bratton said.

A union message called on NYPD officers to respond to every radio call with two cars — "no matter what the opinion of the patrol supervisor" — and not make arrests "unless absolutely necessary." The president of the detectives' union told members in a letter to work in threes when out on the street, wear bulletproof vests and keep aware of their surroundings.

Adding to the tension, police were searching for a reputed Brooklyn gang member who posted online a photo of a man opening fire into a marked police cruiser, local media including the New York Post reported.

Devon Coley, 18, wrote "73Nextt" – an apparent reference to the city's 73rd Precinct — on his Facebook page.

Officer safety concerns were not limited to New York.

A directive warned officers in Newark not to patrol alone and to avoid people looking for confrontations.

In Philadelphia, Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey urged the leaders of protests over the deaths of Garner and Michael Brown, an unarmed black man fatally shot by a white officer in Ferguson, Mo., to "call for calm and not let this escalate any further."

In Boston, Police Commissioner William Evans said police issued an alert warning officers about the New York City slayings and added that the department had issued several alerts following the Ferguson grand jury's decision.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/22/bratton-de-blasio-nypd-shootings/20754685/

 
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I'd like to think as a country there's still enough commonality between us to draft basic standards outlining what is unacceptable. And by that I mean overt calls for "dead cops" by an angry mob marching through the streets. Can't we all agree that at a minimum something like this should be prosecuted?
No.
You know, I've developed a coping mechanism to deal with you. I just look at your avatar and imagine all these answers coming from the cat. It works.
Should Ice-T have been prosecuted for Cop Killer?
Not sure about that one. I don't know enough about it. But I do think the scumbag Uncle Murda should be prosecuted for "Hands Up". That one was over the line.
 
No traffic cops on the 34th st crossings. Two NYPD in Penn station instead of the usual dozen or so.

Really feels like the police presence in the city part of the city I walk-through has pulled back. Be extra safe crossing the streets until this gets cleared up.
yikes. Im headed down to WTC in a few. im curious to see the presence there as its usually flooded with cops.
I definitely noticed less of a presence from NYPD today throughout the city. Usually during this time of year they are out in full force.

 
General Tso said:
Gawain said:
General Tso said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
General Tso said:
I'd like to think as a country there's still enough commonality between us to draft basic standards outlining what is unacceptable. And by that I mean overt calls for "dead cops" by an angry mob marching through the streets. Can't we all agree that at a minimum something like this should be prosecuted?
No.
You know, I've developed a coping mechanism to deal with you. I just look at your avatar and imagine all these answers coming from the cat. It works.
Should Ice-T have been prosecuted for Cop Killer?
Not sure about that one. I don't know enough about it. But I do think the scumbag Uncle Murda should be prosecuted for "Hands Up". That one was over the line.
Im watching fox news and these newscasters should be prosecuted as well. :lmao:

ETA: and i cant believe im going to write this. But props to Bill O'reilly. Bill O'reilly just actually got on and was the first to say that "no one has blood on their hands except the guy who killed the officers" and condemned the folks saying that.

 
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General Tso said:
sporthenry said:
So if this shooting didn't happen, would these people still be guilty of something? Just trying to see where the line is.
Absolutely. Free speech has limitations imposed by law. Many states have statutes prohibiting fighting words. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded movie theatre. There are statutes against hate speech. You can't threaten someone's life.Amazing how uncivilized this country has become. People don't even know the boundaries anymore.
Do you really believe that someone who says "someone should assassinate X" should be charged with a crime?

This isn't yelling "fire" in a theater.
I can't believe this is actually a serious question. Of course I think they should be charged with a crime. Because it is a crime. In many states, like Ohio for instance, it's a third degree felony:

2917.01 Inciting to violence.

(A) No person shall knowingly engage in conduct designed to urge or incite another to commit any offense of violence, when either of the following apply:

(1) The conduct takes place under circumstances that create a clear and present danger that any offense of violence will be committed;

(2) The conduct proximately results in the commission of any offense of violence.

(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of inciting to violence. If the offense of violence that the other person is being urged or incited to commit is a misdemeanor, inciting to violence is a misdemeanor of the first degree. If the offense of violence that the other person is being urged or incited to commit is a felony, inciting to violence is a felony of the third degree.
:lmao:

Yes, your Honor. Their statements created a clear and present danger that proximately resulted in a crime! :ninja:
Cute emojis aside, not sure what your point is. When the killer cites a phrase used by Louis Farrakhan ("you take one of ours we take two of yours") who just so happened to give a highly charged speech in Baltimore a few weeks ago overtly calling for violence, then yeah, I'd say that it's proximate enough.

It will be interesting to see where the investigation goes on this. If this guy attended Farrakhan's speech in Baltimore, and there was evidence that he was motivated in some way by the speech (difficult to prove, granted) then it's very plausible that a criminal case could be made against Farrakhan.

I think the country has had enough of the threats of violence from both sides. I know I have.
How many times has Farrakhan said something like that?

 
General Tso said:
Gawain said:
General Tso said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
General Tso said:
I'd like to think as a country there's still enough commonality between us to draft basic standards outlining what is unacceptable. And by that I mean overt calls for "dead cops" by an angry mob marching through the streets. Can't we all agree that at a minimum something like this should be prosecuted?
No.
You know, I've developed a coping mechanism to deal with you. I just look at your avatar and imagine all these answers coming from the cat. It works.
Should Ice-T have been prosecuted for Cop Killer?
Not sure about that one. I don't know enough about it. But I do think the scumbag Uncle Murda should be prosecuted for "Hands Up". That one was over the line.
Im watching fox news and these newscasters should be prosecuted as well. :lmao: ETA: and i cant believe im going to write this. But props to Bill O'reilly. Bill O'reilly just actually got on and was the first to say that "no one has blood on their hands except the guy who killed the officers" and condemned the folks saying that.
O'Reilly is funny. Sometimes he departs from the party line and says something you wouldn't expect - usually when he's emotional about a topic.
 
Is it true that the Mayor gave orders not to make any arrests at that rally? If I'm the cops I disregard that directive when a chant like that breaks out. You cannot let a mob chant that. No way.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Fennis said:
I have an overwhelming urge to mention Al Sharpton and Crown Heights.
Good point, inviting him into closed door discussions on race relations is like inviting Captain Edward Smith to teach a sailing class.
You are obsessed

 
A Fox affiliate in Baltimore aired a segment on Sunday showing footage from a "Justice For All" demonstration in Washington, D.C. in which it edited a chant to sound like protestors were shouting "kill a cop."

"At this rally in Washington, D.C. protestors chanted, 'we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop,'" the WBFF broadcast said.

But the full footage, flagged by Gawker on Monday via C-SPAN, revealed that the chant was "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops are in cell blocks."

The protest was attended by Rev. Al Sharpton. YouTube videos of the misinterpreted chant contain labels such as "Sharpton's 'Go Kill A Cop' March."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-wbff-edit-protest-kill-a-cop

 
A Fox affiliate in Baltimore aired a segment on Sunday showing footage from a "Justice For All" demonstration in Washington, D.C. in which it edited a chant to sound like protestors were shouting "kill a cop."

"At this rally in Washington, D.C. protestors chanted, 'we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop,'" the WBFF broadcast said.

But the full footage, flagged by Gawker on Monday via C-SPAN, revealed that the chant was "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops are in cell blocks."

The protest was attended by Rev. Al Sharpton. YouTube videos of the misinterpreted chant contain labels such as "Sharpton's 'Go Kill A Cop' March."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-wbff-edit-protest-kill-a-cop
Well now it makes sense what Pinky was talking about earlier.This is really atrocious, and needs to be investigated further. A "mistake" like this can't happen at a news station. That protester's safety was sacrificed and she was put in legitimate danger.

What's sad about this story is the lengths both the left and the right will go to to bend the truth to fit their agendas. First off, the Fox station HAD to know that this lady was not chanting "so kill a cop" even if it sounded like she was. All they had to do was view the full, original 2 minute clip from CSPAN to hear her say the entire chant, where in full context it is obvious she is saying "till killer cops... In cell blocks". The station has an obligation to explain exactly what occurred, and other news stations in the area should be aggressively covering this story as well. It borders on criminal conduct if they knew the full contents of the tape. And if they didn't know the full contents of the tape, then they are professionally delinquent at a minimum, and somebody needs to be fired.

On the flip side - and far less egregious though still noteworthy, the Liberal news that reported this goes out of it's way to say that the station "edited the chant" to make it sound like "so kill a cop". I listened to both the source tape and the news version and it doesn't sound edited at all. They didn't need to edit the tape. It sounds like she says "so kill a cop" in both versions. But what the news station did do from an editorial standpoint is not show the next line of the chant - "in cell blocks" - which would have helped clarify what she was saying. But rather than explain this, Gawker takes the intellectual low road and asserts that they doctored the sound. It's like going out of your way to frame a guilty man. So unnecessary.

The whole thing sucks. Everyone is full of #### these days. Sad.

 
So, uh, do we know who was involved in the "Dead Cops" chant?

sadly, the media seems to want to link these outliers to say that sharpton lead folks to chant this which is far from the truth. I'll say it again. the larger protest wasnt anti cop. it was anti institutional racism. It wasnt about the garner or brown incidents specifically.

Ugh cnn, msnbc, fox everywhere i turn i see the media misrepresenting both sides.

 
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A Fox affiliate in Baltimore aired a segment on Sunday showing footage from a "Justice For All" demonstration in Washington, D.C. in which it edited a chant to sound like protestors were shouting "kill a cop."

"At this rally in Washington, D.C. protestors chanted, 'we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop,'" the WBFF broadcast said.

But the full footage, flagged by Gawker on Monday via C-SPAN, revealed that the chant was "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops are in cell blocks."

The protest was attended by Rev. Al Sharpton. YouTube videos of the misinterpreted chant contain labels such as "Sharpton's 'Go Kill A Cop' March."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-wbff-edit-protest-kill-a-cop
Well now it makes sense what Pinky was talking about earlier.This is really atrocious, and needs to be investigated further. A "mistake" like this can't happen at a news station. That protester's safety was sacrificed and she was put in legitimate danger.

What's sad about this story is the lengths both the left and the right will go to to bend the truth to fit their agendas. First off, the Fox station HAD to know that this lady was not chanting "so kill a cop" even if it sounded like she was. All they had to do was view the full, original 2 minute clip from CSPAN to hear her say the entire chant, where in full context it is obvious she is saying "till killer cops... In cell blocks". The station has an obligation to explain exactly what occurred, and other news stations in the area should be aggressively covering this story as well. It borders on criminal conduct if they knew the full contents of the tape. And if they didn't know the full contents of the tape, then they are professionally delinquent at a minimum, and somebody needs to be fired.

On the flip side - and far less egregious though still noteworthy, the Liberal news that reported this goes out of it's way to say that the station "edited the chant" to make it sound like "so kill a cop". I listened to both the source tape and the news version and it doesn't sound edited at all. They didn't need to edit the tape. It sounds like she says "so kill a cop" in both versions. But what the news station did do from an editorial standpoint is not show the next line of the chant - "in cell blocks" - which would have helped clarify what she was saying. But rather than explain this, Gawker takes the intellectual low road and asserts that they doctored the sound. It's like going out of your way to frame a guilty man. So unnecessary.

The whole thing sucks. Everyone is full of #### these days. Sad.
Can we start a #### the media protest? :shrug:

 
Of all the recent incidents, riots and whatever that surround the overall topic of police and racism, this is the incident that has started an all out Facebook war amongst the people in my feed. Friends are being removed, anger is being typed by people who only ever posted pictures of food. It's truly remarkable to see people unable to discuss a topic without a shred of adult respect and candor.

 
This is just priceless...it's an upside down world on many college campuses these days...

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/23/brandeis-students-rally-around-peer-with-no-sympathy-for-dead-cops/
Come on. That's just someone on a right wing blog who went looking for a story and found one idiot whose twitter idiocy gave him one. Then some of the idiots' friends didn't like the way the idiot was being treated by some other people online so they stood up for him.

It's ridiculous to suggest that one person at one college campus and a couple of the person's friends who rush to their defense says anything significant about "the world on many college campuses these days."

 
This is just priceless...it's an upside down world on many college campuses these days...

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/23/brandeis-students-rally-around-peer-with-no-sympathy-for-dead-cops/
Come on. That's just someone on a right wing blog who went looking for a story and found one idiot whose twitter idiocy gave him one. Then some of the idiots' friends didn't like the way the idiot was being treated by some other people online so they stood up for him.

It's ridiculous to suggest that one person at one college campus and a couple of the person's friends who rush to their defense says anything significant about "the world on many college campuses these days."
If that tweet was something along the lines of "I hate Gays" do you think this story would be buried or the college would sit idly by...also, if you have to be kidding if you don't think there isn't a lot of nonsense going on on college campuses these days...

 
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Of all the recent incidents, riots and whatever that surround the overall topic of police and racism, this is the incident that has started an all out Facebook war amongst the people in my feed. Friends are being removed, anger is being typed by people who only ever posted pictures of food. It's truly remarkable to see people unable to discuss a topic without a shred of adult respect and candor.
Not so much Holiday Cheer.

 
This is just priceless...it's an upside down world on many college campuses these days...

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/23/brandeis-students-rally-around-peer-with-no-sympathy-for-dead-cops/
Come on. That's just someone on a right wing blog who went looking for a story and found one idiot whose twitter idiocy gave him one. Then some of the idiots' friends didn't like the way the idiot was being treated by some other people online so they stood up for him.

It's ridiculous to suggest that one person at one college campus and a couple of the person's friends who rush to their defense says anything significant about "the world on many college campuses these days."
If that tweet was something along the lines of "I hate Gays" do you think this story would be buried or the college would sit idly by...also, if you have to be kidding if you don't think there isn't a lot of nonsense going on on college campuses these days...
No and yes.

Of course there's a lot of nonsense going on on college campuses these days. There's been a lot of nonsense going on on college campuses pretty much since higher education was invented. This story has basically zero relevance in a discussion of that much larger picture, though. It's a silly far right wing blog digging up red meat to feed to its like-minded readers, as you can tell by the characterization of Brandeis as a "hothouse of silly leftism."

 
This is just priceless...it's an upside down world on many college campuses these days...

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/23/brandeis-students-rally-around-peer-with-no-sympathy-for-dead-cops/
Come on. That's just someone on a right wing blog who went looking for a story and found one idiot whose twitter idiocy gave him one. Then some of the idiots' friends didn't like the way the idiot was being treated by some other people online so they stood up for him.

It's ridiculous to suggest that one person at one college campus and a couple of the person's friends who rush to their defense says anything significant about "the world on many college campuses these days."
If that tweet was something along the lines of "I hate Gays" do you think this story would be buried or the college would sit idly by...also, if you have to be kidding if you don't think there isn't a lot of nonsense going on on college campuses these days...
No and yes.

Of course there's a lot of nonsense going on on college campuses these days. There's been a lot of nonsense going on on college campuses pretty much since higher education was invented. This story has basically zero relevance in a discussion of that much larger picture, though. It's a silly far right wing blog digging up red meat to feed to its like-minded readers, as you can tell by the characterization of Brandeis as a "hothouse of silly leftism."
Ok...I will remember those words of wisdom the next time I see a story about a Tea Party whack-job...

 
Ok...I will remember those words of wisdom the next time I see a story about a Tea Party whack-job...
Let me save you the effort- I guarantee you I've never linked a "news" article that referred to anyone as a "Tea Party whack job" and I never will.

 
Ok...I will remember those words of wisdom the next time I see a story about a Tea Party whack-job...
Let me save you the effort- I guarantee you I've never linked a "news" article that referred to anyone as a "Tea Party whack job" and I never will.
Good to see we have a non-partisan voice on this board...
There's a difference between being a partisan and getting your news from something like the Daily Caller and then drawing larger conclusions about things based on that "news."

 
This is just priceless...it's an upside down world on many college campuses these days...

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/23/brandeis-students-rally-around-peer-with-no-sympathy-for-dead-cops/
I love that... chick fires off tweet after tweet out the the world talking about hating America and wanting to kill white people. Then when asked about it by a (admittedly right wing) school news source she's offended:

"Its my own personal opinion which I as a private citizen which do not want publicized in any form and if you do not abide my wishes i constitute your disregard as slander."
I don't want my opinions publicized, that's why I tweet them!!!!1!!!

:lol:

She might want to look into the difference between libel and slander, as well....

 
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This is just priceless...it's an upside down world on many college campuses these days...

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/23/brandeis-students-rally-around-peer-with-no-sympathy-for-dead-cops/
I love that... chick fires off tweet after tweet out the the world talking about hating America and wanting to kill white people. Then when asked about it by a school news source she's offended:

"Its my own personal opinion which I as a private citizen which do not want publicized in any form and if you do not abide my wishes i constitute your disregard as slander."
I don't want my opinions publicized, that's why I tweet them!!!!1!!!

:lol:

She might want to look into the difference between libel and slander, as well....
Also the difference between "constitute" and... whatever she meant to say there.

 
A Fox affiliate in Baltimore aired a segment on Sunday showing footage from a "Justice For All" demonstration in Washington, D.C. in which it edited a chant to sound like protestors were shouting "kill a cop."

"At this rally in Washington, D.C. protestors chanted, 'we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop,'" the WBFF broadcast said.

But the full footage, flagged by Gawker on Monday via C-SPAN, revealed that the chant was "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops are in cell blocks."

The protest was attended by Rev. Al Sharpton. YouTube videos of the misinterpreted chant contain labels such as "Sharpton's 'Go Kill A Cop' March."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-wbff-edit-protest-kill-a-cop
Well now it makes sense what Pinky was talking about earlier.This is really atrocious, and needs to be investigated further. A "mistake" like this can't happen at a news station. That protester's safety was sacrificed and she was put in legitimate danger.

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Used to be a time when news stations would be shunned for making such an egregious error...now it's just another day at the office

 
A Fox affiliate in Baltimore aired a segment on Sunday showing footage from a "Justice For All" demonstration in Washington, D.C. in which it edited a chant to sound like protestors were shouting "kill a cop."

"At this rally in Washington, D.C. protestors chanted, 'we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop,'" the WBFF broadcast said.

But the full footage, flagged by Gawker on Monday via C-SPAN, revealed that the chant was "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops are in cell blocks."

The protest was attended by Rev. Al Sharpton. YouTube videos of the misinterpreted chant contain labels such as "Sharpton's 'Go Kill A Cop' March."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-wbff-edit-protest-kill-a-cop
Well now it makes sense what Pinky was talking about earlier.This is really atrocious, and needs to be investigated further. A "mistake" like this can't happen at a news station. That protester's safety was sacrificed and she was put in legitimate danger.

What's sad about this story is the lengths both the left and the right will go to to bend the truth to fit their agendas. First off, the Fox station HAD to know that this lady was not chanting "so kill a cop" even if it sounded like she was. All they had to do was view the full, original 2 minute clip from CSPAN to hear her say the entire chant, where in full context it is obvious she is saying "till killer cops... In cell blocks". The station has an obligation to explain exactly what occurred, and other news stations in the area should be aggressively covering this story as well. It borders on criminal conduct if they knew the full contents of the tape. And if they didn't know the full contents of the tape, then they are professionally delinquent at a minimum, and somebody needs to be fired.

On the flip side - and far less egregious though still noteworthy, the Liberal news that reported this goes out of it's way to say that the station "edited the chant" to make it sound like "so kill a cop". I listened to both the source tape and the news version and it doesn't sound edited at all. They didn't need to edit the tape. It sounds like she says "so kill a cop" in both versions. But what the news station did do from an editorial standpoint is not show the next line of the chant - "in cell blocks" - which would have helped clarify what she was saying. But rather than explain this, Gawker takes the intellectual low road and asserts that they doctored the sound. It's like going out of your way to frame a guilty man. So unnecessary.

The whole thing sucks. Everyone is full of #### these days. Sad.
Where did Gawker say that Fox doctored the sound? All I saw was an article on the editing - which clipped the end of the chant off.

 
A Fox affiliate in Baltimore aired a segment on Sunday showing footage from a "Justice For All" demonstration in Washington, D.C. in which it edited a chant to sound like protestors were shouting "kill a cop."

"At this rally in Washington, D.C. protestors chanted, 'we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop,'" the WBFF broadcast said.

But the full footage, flagged by Gawker on Monday via C-SPAN, revealed that the chant was "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops are in cell blocks."

The protest was attended by Rev. Al Sharpton. YouTube videos of the misinterpreted chant contain labels such as "Sharpton's 'Go Kill A Cop' March."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-wbff-edit-protest-kill-a-cop
Well now it makes sense what Pinky was talking about earlier.This is really atrocious, and needs to be investigated further. A "mistake" like this can't happen at a news station. That protester's safety was sacrificed and she was put in legitimate danger.

What's sad about this story is the lengths both the left and the right will go to to bend the truth to fit their agendas. First off, the Fox station HAD to know that this lady was not chanting "so kill a cop" even if it sounded like she was. All they had to do was view the full, original 2 minute clip from CSPAN to hear her say the entire chant, where in full context it is obvious she is saying "till killer cops... In cell blocks". The station has an obligation to explain exactly what occurred, and other news stations in the area should be aggressively covering this story as well. It borders on criminal conduct if they knew the full contents of the tape. And if they didn't know the full contents of the tape, then they are professionally delinquent at a minimum, and somebody needs to be fired.

On the flip side - and far less egregious though still noteworthy, the Liberal news that reported this goes out of it's way to say that the station "edited the chant" to make it sound like "so kill a cop". I listened to both the source tape and the news version and it doesn't sound edited at all. They didn't need to edit the tape. It sounds like she says "so kill a cop" in both versions. But what the news station did do from an editorial standpoint is not show the next line of the chant - "in cell blocks" - which would have helped clarify what she was saying. But rather than explain this, Gawker takes the intellectual low road and asserts that they doctored the sound. It's like going out of your way to frame a guilty man. So unnecessary.

The whole thing sucks. Everyone is full of #### these days. Sad.
Where did Gawker say that Fox doctored the sound? All I saw was an article on the editing - which clipped the end of the chant off.
Exactly. They edited the tape by cutting it off so that it distorted what actually happened and served to fan the flames of their chosen agenda, instead.

I can't even imagine the meeting of the minds on this in the Fox newsroom. It's really kinda evil.

 
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A Fox affiliate in Baltimore aired a segment on Sunday showing footage from a "Justice For All" demonstration in Washington, D.C. in which it edited a chant to sound like protestors were shouting "kill a cop."

"At this rally in Washington, D.C. protestors chanted, 'we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop,'" the WBFF broadcast said.

But the full footage, flagged by Gawker on Monday via C-SPAN, revealed that the chant was "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops are in cell blocks."

The protest was attended by Rev. Al Sharpton. YouTube videos of the misinterpreted chant contain labels such as "Sharpton's 'Go Kill A Cop' March."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-wbff-edit-protest-kill-a-cop
Well now it makes sense what Pinky was talking about earlier.This is really atrocious, and needs to be investigated further. A "mistake" like this can't happen at a news station. That protester's safety was sacrificed and she was put in legitimate danger.

What's sad about this story is the lengths both the left and the right will go to to bend the truth to fit their agendas. First off, the Fox station HAD to know that this lady was not chanting "so kill a cop" even if it sounded like she was. All they had to do was view the full, original 2 minute clip from CSPAN to hear her say the entire chant, where in full context it is obvious she is saying "till killer cops... In cell blocks". The station has an obligation to explain exactly what occurred, and other news stations in the area should be aggressively covering this story as well. It borders on criminal conduct if they knew the full contents of the tape. And if they didn't know the full contents of the tape, then they are professionally delinquent at a minimum, and somebody needs to be fired.

On the flip side - and far less egregious though still noteworthy, the Liberal news that reported this goes out of it's way to say that the station "edited the chant" to make it sound like "so kill a cop". I listened to both the source tape and the news version and it doesn't sound edited at all. They didn't need to edit the tape. It sounds like she says "so kill a cop" in both versions. But what the news station did do from an editorial standpoint is not show the next line of the chant - "in cell blocks" - which would have helped clarify what she was saying. But rather than explain this, Gawker takes the intellectual low road and asserts that they doctored the sound. It's like going out of your way to frame a guilty man. So unnecessary.

The whole thing sucks. Everyone is full of #### these days. Sad.
Where did Gawker say that Fox doctored the sound? All I saw was an article on the editing - which clipped the end of the chant off.
Exactly. They edited the tape by cutting it off so that it distorted what actually happened and served to fan the flames of their chosen agenda, instead.

I can't even imagine the meeting of the minds on this in the Fox newsroom. It's really kinda evil.
Is this the chant ?

 
This is just priceless...it's an upside down world on many college campuses these days...

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/23/brandeis-students-rally-around-peer-with-no-sympathy-for-dead-cops/
I love that... chick fires off tweet after tweet out the the world talking about hating America and wanting to kill white people. Then when asked about it by a (admittedly right wing) school news source she's offended:

"Its my own personal opinion which I as a private citizen which do not want publicized in any form and if you do not abide my wishes i constitute your disregard as slander."
I don't want my opinions publicized, that's why I tweet them!!!!1!!!

:lol:

She might want to look into the difference between libel and slander, as well....
+1There is an old saying..."Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt." There is no greater channel for rapidly removing doubt than Twitter :lol:

:dontletthedoorhityouintheassonyourwayout Khadijah:

 
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A Fox affiliate in Baltimore aired a segment on Sunday showing footage from a "Justice For All" demonstration in Washington, D.C. in which it edited a chant to sound like protestors were shouting "kill a cop."

"At this rally in Washington, D.C. protestors chanted, 'we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop,'" the WBFF broadcast said.

But the full footage, flagged by Gawker on Monday via C-SPAN, revealed that the chant was "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops are in cell blocks."

The protest was attended by Rev. Al Sharpton. YouTube videos of the misinterpreted chant contain labels such as "Sharpton's 'Go Kill A Cop' March."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-wbff-edit-protest-kill-a-cop
Well now it makes sense what Pinky was talking about earlier.This is really atrocious, and needs to be investigated further. A "mistake" like this can't happen at a news station. That protester's safety was sacrificed and she was put in legitimate danger.

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Used to be a time when news stations would be shunned for making such an egregious error...now it's just another day at the office
Agreed. It's become all about the clicks/views and very few feet are appropriately held to the fire. Big part of the problem, IMO.
 
Good to see everyone focused on the important issues surrounding this tragedy- playing "gotcha" with a 19 year old girl's twitter feed and poorly edited protest chants in an attempt to pander to people who are already like-minded.

 
Good to see everyone focused on the important issues surrounding this tragedy- playing "gotcha" with a 19 year old girl's twitter feed and poorly edited protest chants in an attempt to pander to people who are already like-minded.
The people in that article are our future. It's worth discussing, especially since that type of idiocy isn't limited to a few people at one school.

 
Good to see everyone focused on the important issues surrounding this tragedy- playing "gotcha" with a 19 year old girl's twitter feed and poorly edited protest chants in an attempt to pander to people who are already like-minded.
My bad. Back on topic, truly horrible act by a terrible cowardly puke. Hope hell is hot for him. Heart goes out to the families of the slain officers.

 

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