Coward fatally ambushes 2 NYPD, commits suicide (1 Viewer)

[Henry Ford]

Annnd I am going to ask a question that will be scoffed at but who cares because the truth is the truth right? This is the video posted above showing the whole context of the 'til the killer cops are in a jail cell' chant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tbMdoL6UI&feature=youtu.be

At ~1:28-1:34 there is a man in a red outfit and a red flag.

What does the red flag and his wearing of those colors signify? Anyone?

Just a shot in the dark, but red is the color of protest in a lot of cultures. You'll also see a woman in a bright red hat in that shot - the French in particular wear red hats when they protest.

Ok, technically the culture we're speaking of is Baltimore.

How about in these two pictures/video?

http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2014/12/13/believe-your-ears-nyc-protesters-chant-for-dead-cops/

(^The flags are clearer in the video there but there is a description from the person who took the video in the link).

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2356732/thumbs/r-GARNER-PROTEST-NEW-YORK-CITY-600x275.jpg

Well, yes - it's in Baltimore, but that's like saying the culture of New York City. There are a lot of types of people there.

As for Communism? Maybe. But the red flag has been a symbol of defiance for hundreds of years. It's why the Communists used it in the first place. It was a symbol of mutiny or a battle to the death for hundreds of years before Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto. It's symbolically meant that the bearer is willing to die for a cause for a very long time.

I think there's a joke about "culture" and "Baltimore" in the same sentence we haven't touched yet, but anyhow...

Let's look at wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_%28politics%29#mediaviewer/File:Red_flag.svg

I know it's an unpopular line of inquiry and I will get the back of the hand for raising it. But IMHO those are the flags at the "Dead Cop" chant and they do pop up in the marches. I find it interesting, that's all. They could also be anarchists. - But let me be clear these are not the main protestors, and we all know that. Again, this is fringe element.

" a red flag is a symbol of Socialism, Communism, and left-wing politics"

I don't think anyone is suggesting that the politics of the protesters are right wing.

And anarchists would have a flag that was two colors. At least, if they were advertising their politics.

 

[General Tso]

Annnd I am going to ask a question that will be scoffed at but who cares because the truth is the truth right? This is the video posted above showing the whole context of the 'til the killer cops are in a jail cell' chant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tbMdoL6UI&feature=youtu.be

At ~1:28-1:34 there is a man in a red outfit and a red flag.

What does the red flag and his wearing of those colors signify? Anyone?

Just a shot in the dark, but red is the color of protest in a lot of cultures. You'll also see a woman in a bright red hat in that shot - the French in particular wear red hats when they protest.

Ok, technically the culture we're speaking of is Baltimore.

How about in these two pictures/video?

http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2014/12/13/believe-your-ears-nyc-protesters-chant-for-dead-cops/

(^The flags are clearer in the video there but there is a description from the person who took the video in the link).

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2356732/thumbs/r-GARNER-PROTEST-NEW-YORK-CITY-600x275.jpg

Well, yes - it's in Baltimore, but that's like saying the culture of New York City. There are a lot of types of people there.

As for Communism? Maybe. But the red flag has been a symbol of defiance for hundreds of years. It's why the Communists used it in the first place. It was a symbol of mutiny or a battle to the death for hundreds of years before Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto. It's symbolically meant that the bearer is willing to die for a cause for a very long time.

I think there's a joke about "culture" and "Baltimore" in the same sentence we haven't touched yet, but anyhow...

Let's look at wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_%28politics%29#mediaviewer/File:Red_flag.svg

I know it's an unpopular line of inquiry and I will get the back of the hand for raising it. But IMHO those are the flags at the "Dead Cop" chant and they do pop up in the marches. I find it interesting, that's all. They could also be anarchists. - But let me be clear these are not the main protestors, and we all know that. Again, this is fringe element.

I haven't posted yet on this aspect of the story, but I'm glad Saint and others have brought it up. Protests bring some interesting elements out of the shadows, that's for sure. I was involved in the leftist movement against US Central American policies in the 80's and it always amazed me who would show up at our rallies - and this was before social media and cell phones. While it's almost impossible for leaders of rallies to fully regulate the crowds, it's their responsibility to do as much as they possibly can to marginalize any whack-jobs that do show up. As we have seen here, all it takes is one small splinter group chanting "kill cops" to completely destroy the political capital that took months to attain.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Annnd I am going to ask a question that will be scoffed at but who cares because the truth is the truth right? This is the video posted above showing the whole context of the 'til the killer cops are in a jail cell' chant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tbMdoL6UI&feature=youtu.be

At ~1:28-1:34 there is a man in a red outfit and a red flag.

What does the red flag and his wearing of those colors signify? Anyone?

Weeks before assassinations, officers’ killer attended anti-NYPD rally

http://pix11.com/2014/12/22/cops-killer-took-cell-phone-video-of-union-square-protest-weeks-before-assassinations/

NEW YORK (PIX11) – Investigators found video on a cellphone used by Ismaayil Brinsley, the executioner of two New York City police officers, indicating Brinsley attended an anti-NYPD protest in Union Square Park weeks before he assassinated the officers as they sat in their patrol car in Brooklyn, NYPD Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce revealed Monday.

This latest detail emerged as the NYPD announced one of the slain officers — 40-year-old Rafael Ramos — would be laid to rest Saturday.

“We recovered his cellphone in Baltimore,” Boyce said of Brinsley, at a press conference attended by Mayor Bill de Blasio and Police Commissioner William Bratton.

The cellphone video showed Brinsley watching the protest in the Manhattan park on Dec. 1.

Boyce said investigators found 119 images on Brinsley’s Instagram account, including a Nov. 25 anti-government tirade about inequities in America. The chief shared more details about Brinsley’s morning in Baltimore Dec. 20, before he headed to New York on his deadly mission.

Boyce said Brinsley broke into his ex-girlfriend’s apartment in Baltimore that morning.

“He put a gun to his own head, when he broke in,” Boyce told reporters, “and she talked him out of it.”

Brinsley ended up shooting the woman.

Surveillance footage in Brooklyn shows Brinsley — wearing a green jacket and combat pants — going through a door in the Atlantic Terminal Mall about 12:20 p.m. Dec. 20.

Detectives are trying to establish what he was doing that day between 12:07 p.m. and 2:47 p.m., when he approached officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu, who were sitting in their patrol car at Willoughby and Myrtle avenues having lunch. He fired shots through the passenger side window, mortally wounding both men.

Boyce said Monday a fax with Brinsley’s picture and a warning was sent to NYPD units one minute before the shooting occurred.

NYPD believes Brinsley acted alone in his deadly rampage, but wants to dig deeper into his affiliations.

Investigators want to know if there’s any significance to a red arrowhead patch that was on the sweater he wore, like the one pictured below. They’re asking anyone with information to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS.

The arrowhead on the jacket does not look activist or gang related to me, just artsy to make the jacket look cool.

I haven't watched the above video, but there are Socialist/Communist organizations participating in the protests. Perhaps the red is related to that.

Who knows on either count, though.

 

[Henry Ford]

Annnd I am going to ask a question that will be scoffed at but who cares because the truth is the truth right? This is the video posted above showing the whole context of the 'til the killer cops are in a jail cell' chant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tbMdoL6UI&feature=youtu.be

At ~1:28-1:34 there is a man in a red outfit and a red flag.

What does the red flag and his wearing of those colors signify? Anyone?

Weeks before assassinations, officers’ killer attended anti-NYPD rally

http://pix11.com/2014/12/22/cops-killer-took-cell-phone-video-of-union-square-protest-weeks-before-assassinations/

NEW YORK (PIX11) – Investigators found video on a cellphone used by Ismaayil Brinsley, the executioner of two New York City police officers, indicating Brinsley attended an anti-NYPD protest in Union Square Park weeks before he assassinated the officers as they sat in their patrol car in Brooklyn, NYPD Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce revealed Monday.

This latest detail emerged as the NYPD announced one of the slain officers — 40-year-old Rafael Ramos — would be laid to rest Saturday.

“We recovered his cellphone in Baltimore,” Boyce said of Brinsley, at a press conference attended by Mayor Bill de Blasio and Police Commissioner William Bratton.

The cellphone video showed Brinsley watching the protest in the Manhattan park on Dec. 1.

Boyce said investigators found 119 images on Brinsley’s Instagram account, including a Nov. 25 anti-government tirade about inequities in America. The chief shared more details about Brinsley’s morning in Baltimore Dec. 20, before he headed to New York on his deadly mission.

Boyce said Brinsley broke into his ex-girlfriend’s apartment in Baltimore that morning.

“He put a gun to his own head, when he broke in,” Boyce told reporters, “and she talked him out of it.”

Brinsley ended up shooting the woman.

Surveillance footage in Brooklyn shows Brinsley — wearing a green jacket and combat pants — going through a door in the Atlantic Terminal Mall about 12:20 p.m. Dec. 20.

Detectives are trying to establish what he was doing that day between 12:07 p.m. and 2:47 p.m., when he approached officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu, who were sitting in their patrol car at Willoughby and Myrtle avenues having lunch. He fired shots through the passenger side window, mortally wounding both men.

Boyce said Monday a fax with Brinsley’s picture and a warning was sent to NYPD units one minute before the shooting occurred.

NYPD believes Brinsley acted alone in his deadly rampage, but wants to dig deeper into his affiliations.

Investigators want to know if there’s any significance to a red arrowhead patch that was on the sweater he wore, like the one pictured below. They’re asking anyone with information to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS.

I'm confused. A Baltimore youth had a patch with a Native American headdress on it and a white arrowhead with a red background... and people are wondering what its significance is?

 

[General Tso]

Annnd I am going to ask a question that will be scoffed at but who cares because the truth is the truth right? This is the video posted above showing the whole context of the 'til the killer cops are in a jail cell' chant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tbMdoL6UI&feature=youtu.be

At ~1:28-1:34 there is a man in a red outfit and a red flag.

What does the red flag and his wearing of those colors signify? Anyone?

Weeks before assassinations, officers’ killer attended anti-NYPD rally

http://pix11.com/2014/12/22/cops-killer-took-cell-phone-video-of-union-square-protest-weeks-before-assassinations/

NEW YORK (PIX11) – Investigators found video on a cellphone used by Ismaayil Brinsley, the executioner of two New York City police officers, indicating Brinsley attended an anti-NYPD protest in Union Square Park weeks before he assassinated the officers as they sat in their patrol car in Brooklyn, NYPD Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce revealed Monday.

This latest detail emerged as the NYPD announced one of the slain officers — 40-year-old Rafael Ramos — would be laid to rest Saturday.

“We recovered his cellphone in Baltimore,” Boyce said of Brinsley, at a press conference attended by Mayor Bill de Blasio and Police Commissioner William Bratton.

The cellphone video showed Brinsley watching the protest in the Manhattan park on Dec. 1.

Boyce said investigators found 119 images on Brinsley’s Instagram account, including a Nov. 25 anti-government tirade about inequities in America. The chief shared more details about Brinsley’s morning in Baltimore Dec. 20, before he headed to New York on his deadly mission.

Boyce said Brinsley broke into his ex-girlfriend’s apartment in Baltimore that morning.

“He put a gun to his own head, when he broke in,” Boyce told reporters, “and she talked him out of it.”

Brinsley ended up shooting the woman.

Surveillance footage in Brooklyn shows Brinsley — wearing a green jacket and combat pants — going through a door in the Atlantic Terminal Mall about 12:20 p.m. Dec. 20.

Detectives are trying to establish what he was doing that day between 12:07 p.m. and 2:47 p.m., when he approached officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu, who were sitting in their patrol car at Willoughby and Myrtle avenues having lunch. He fired shots through the passenger side window, mortally wounding both men.

Boyce said Monday a fax with Brinsley’s picture and a warning was sent to NYPD units one minute before the shooting occurred.

NYPD believes Brinsley acted alone in his deadly rampage, but wants to dig deeper into his affiliations.

Investigators want to know if there’s any significance to a red arrowhead patch that was on the sweater he wore, like the one pictured below. They’re asking anyone with information to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS.

I'm confused. A Baltimore youth had a patch with a Native American headdress on it and a white arrowhead with a red background... and people are wondering what its significance is?

Is it a Redskin patch? I was wondering that myself but thought it was too obvious.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Henry it's not a Redskins patch. Funny but no, they show it in the link. The guy was crazy but not that crazy.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Annnd I am going to ask a question that will be scoffed at but who cares because the truth is the truth right? This is the video posted above showing the whole context of the 'til the killer cops are in a jail cell' chant:

Like I said, the patch looks like an aesthetic decision by the designer which likely has no significance.I doubt it's Redskins related if that's what you're intimating. Why not just wear the actual Redskins logo if that were the case? Besides, the shooter was raised in Brooklyn and was later fairly transient. He's likely a fan of the New York teams.

Isn't the shooter 28 years old? At what age do we stop calling people a "youth"?

 

[General Tso]

The patch comes with the jacket. It's a Ralph Lauren Ross Varsity jacket - http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=48186226&parentPage=family

Do the investigators really think this guy would buy a jacket with a generic patch because it approximates some gang affiliation? Wouldn't that be viewed as kind of sacrilege within the gang? BTW - I looked up the Black Guerilla Family logos and colors and they aren't even close to that.

Looks to me like the ivestigators are trying desperately to link this guy to a gang or a political organization, and there is not much to go with at present.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Annnd I am going to ask a question that will be scoffed at but who cares because the truth is the truth right? This is the video posted above showing the whole context of the 'til the killer cops are in a jail cell' chant:

It has no signifigance. why does it matter anyway?

http://www.ralphlauren.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=12019685

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Annnd I am going to ask a question that will be scoffed at but who cares because the truth is the truth right? This is the video posted above showing the whole context of the 'til the killer cops are in a jail cell' chant:

You'll have to ask the NYPD investigators why they think it may matter.

I've already articulated twice that I thought it was nothing more than an aesthetic, designer symbol.

Here's the thing: I read articles. I read this forum. If an article I read has a nexus to a post I recall reading on this forum, I post it.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

[side comment unrelated to thread - weird patch for Lauren to put on their jackets in the first place. Odd marketing decision. Carry on.]

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Annnd I am going to ask a question that will be scoffed at but who cares because the truth is the truth right? This is the video posted above showing the whole context of the 'til the killer cops are in a jail cell' chant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tbMdoL6UI&feature=youtu.be

At ~1:28-1:34 there is a man in a red outfit and a red flag.

What does the red flag and his wearing of those colors signify? Anyone?

Just a shot in the dark, but red is the color of protest in a lot of cultures. You'll also see a woman in a bright red hat in that shot - the French in particular wear red hats when they protest.

Ok, technically the culture we're speaking of is Baltimore.

How about in these two pictures/video?

http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2014/12/13/believe-your-ears-nyc-protesters-chant-for-dead-cops/

(^The flags are clearer in the video there but there is a description from the person who took the video in the link).

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2356732/thumbs/r-GARNER-PROTEST-NEW-YORK-CITY-600x275.jpg

Well, yes - it's in Baltimore, but that's like saying the culture of New York City. There are a lot of types of people there.

As for Communism? Maybe. But the red flag has been a symbol of defiance for hundreds of years. It's why the Communists used it in the first place. It was a symbol of mutiny or a battle to the death for hundreds of years before Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto. It's symbolically meant that the bearer is willing to die for a cause for a very long time.

I think there's a joke about "culture" and "Baltimore" in the same sentence we haven't touched yet, but anyhow...

Let's look at wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_%28politics%29#mediaviewer/File:Red_flag.svg

I know it's an unpopular line of inquiry and I will get the back of the hand for raising it. But IMHO those are the flags at the "Dead Cop" chant and they do pop up in the marches. I find it interesting, that's all. They could also be anarchists. - But let me be clear these are not the main protestors, and we all know that. Again, this is fringe element.

" a red flag is a symbol of Socialism, Communism, and left-wing politics"

I don't think anyone is suggesting that the politics of the protesters are right wing.

And anarchists would have a flag that was two colors. At least, if they were advertising their politics.

Yep.

Hammer & sickle here:

Constance Graham (center, striped cap), the mother of Ramarley Graham, 18, shot and killed by police in 2012, joins a march which began in Union Square and flowed across the Brooklyn Bridge into Brooklyn on Dec. 4.

Foley Square - 12/9/14 (this one is plainly anarchist):

This is NYC Antifa:

http://nycantifa.wordpress.com/

Here they have their National Day of Action for Michael Brown, including a march at Union Square on Dec. 4:

http://trayvonoc.wordpress.com/2014/11/08/indictamerica-national-day-of-action-for-mike-brown/

Investigators found video on a cellphone used by Ismaayil Brinsley, the executioner of two New York City police officers, indicating Brinsley attended an anti-NYPD protest in Union Square Park weeks before he assassinated the officers as they sat in their patrol car in Brooklyn, NYPD Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce revealed Monday.

 

[General Tso]

Annnd I am going to ask a question that will be scoffed at but who cares because the truth is the truth right? This is the video posted above showing the whole context of the 'til the killer cops are in a jail cell' chant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tbMdoL6UI&feature=youtu.be

At ~1:28-1:34 there is a man in a red outfit and a red flag.

What does the red flag and his wearing of those colors signify? Anyone?

Just a shot in the dark, but red is the color of protest in a lot of cultures. You'll also see a woman in a bright red hat in that shot - the French in particular wear red hats when they protest.

Ok, technically the culture we're speaking of is Baltimore.

How about in these two pictures/video?

http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2014/12/13/believe-your-ears-nyc-protesters-chant-for-dead-cops/

(^The flags are clearer in the video there but there is a description from the person who took the video in the link).

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2356732/thumbs/r-GARNER-PROTEST-NEW-YORK-CITY-600x275.jpg

Well, yes - it's in Baltimore, but that's like saying the culture of New York City. There are a lot of types of people there.

As for Communism? Maybe. But the red flag has been a symbol of defiance for hundreds of years. It's why the Communists used it in the first place. It was a symbol of mutiny or a battle to the death for hundreds of years before Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto. It's symbolically meant that the bearer is willing to die for a cause for a very long time.

I think there's a joke about "culture" and "Baltimore" in the same sentence we haven't touched yet, but anyhow...

Let's look at wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_%28politics%29#mediaviewer/File:Red_flag.svg

I know it's an unpopular line of inquiry and I will get the back of the hand for raising it. But IMHO those are the flags at the "Dead Cop" chant and they do pop up in the marches. I find it interesting, that's all. They could also be anarchists. - But let me be clear these are not the main protestors, and we all know that. Again, this is fringe element.

" a red flag is a symbol of Socialism, Communism, and left-wing politics"

I don't think anyone is suggesting that the politics of the protesters are right wing.

And anarchists would have a flag that was two colors. At least, if they were advertising their politics.

Yep.

Hammer & sickle here:

Constance Graham (center, striped cap), the mother of Ramarley Graham, 18, shot and killed by police in 2012, joins a march which began in Union Square and flowed across the Brooklyn Bridge into Brooklyn on Dec. 4.

Foley Square - 12/9/14 (this one is plainly anarchist):

This is NYC Antifa:

http://nycantifa.wordpress.com/

Here they have their National Day of Action for Michael Brown:

http://trayvonoc.wordpress.com/2014/11/08/indictamerica-national-day-of-action-for-mike-brown/

Side comment - as I was looking through these links I saw the following blurb:

“Apple Pulls White-Power Music From iTunes”

Apple has removed music with racial supremacy–themed messages from iTunes, following scrutiny from the Southern Poverty Law Center (via Noisey). The winter edition of the organization’s “Intelligence Report” criticized the company for offering music by white-power groups like Skrewdriver, Max Resist and the Bully Boys, as well as offering a “Listeners Also Bought” feature that suggested like-minded hatemongers.

An Apple spokesperson confirmed to Rolling Stone that music was removed. The company was not involved in the creation of SPLC’s report – which an organization spokesman says he compiled from monitoring 15 to 20 white-power websites and combing through the catalogs of defunct white-power label Resistance Records and cross-checking to see if they were hateful – but it took some of the music down as a result of the publication.

Meanwhile itunes is still selling that garbage rap song by Uncle Murda called "Hands Up", the opening line of which calls for the killing of cops.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Looks like this one from when I was stationed at Camp Casey http://www.northwestmilitary.com/news/army-west-blog/2012/04/Attention-2ID-Soldiers-the-Second-Indianhead-Division-Association-wants-you/uploads/blogs/31175-banner-200px-2_Infantry_Div_SSI.svg.png

 

[Henry Ford]

Looks like this one from when I was stationed at Camp Casey http://www.northwestmilitary.com/news/army-west-blog/2012/04/Attention-2ID-Soldiers-the-Second-Indianhead-Division-Association-wants-you/uploads/blogs/31175-banner-200px-2_Infantry_Div_SSI.svg.png

I was going to say it looked like a homemade version of the imjin scouts patch.

 

[General Tso]

[side comment unrelated to thread - weird patch for Lauren to put on their jackets in the first place. Odd marketing decision. Carry on.]

Ralph Lauren apparently has some sort of fascination with Native Americans... http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/18/living/ralph-lauren-assimiliation-ad-controversy/

I agree - it does seem odd.

 

[General Tso]

Not sure how reliable this news source is, but it has some interesting info on the Islamic terrorism angle to this story...

http://gotnews.com/tag/ismaaiyl-brimsley/

The Muslim NYPD cop killer Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley worked for a Muslim Brotherhood front group, according to his Facebook page.GotNews.com has confirmed and exclusively discovered that Brinsley went by another name — Ismaaiyl Abdullah-Muhammad — and that he worked for the Islamic Society of North America.

The Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim Brotherhood front group that was described as an unindicted co-conspirator by the Justice Department in the 2007 Holy Land terror cases.

Brinsley a.k.a. Muhammad’s Facebook page includes liking pages like “I love Islam” and “I Have To Be More Philosophical, About My Life.”

Brinsley a.k.a. Muhammad’s terror attack recall an earlier hatchet attack against the NYPD by a Muslim fanatic in October of this year.

GotNews.com has already established that Brinsley’s past brushes with the law and hatred of the police come long before the controversial deaths of Eric Garner and Michael Brown.

This new revelation, taken with this Koranic passage from Brinsley’s other Facebook page, destroy the narrative that Brinsley a.k.a. Muhammad was troubled and a depressed young man. In fact, he wanted to kill cops and he did just that.

“His [attempted] killing of his ex-girlfriend is entirely consistent with an honor killing,” says John Cardillo, a former NYPD police officer who investigated terror cells in New York.

ISNA’s political action committee was founded by Abdurahman Alamoudi, who is currently in prison on terrorism charges:

In 2005, the Treasury Dept identified Alamoudi as one of the biggest fundraisers for Al-Qaeda in North America.

ISNA was named in 2007 as unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation case, the largest terrorism financing trial in American history. The Holy Land Foundation itself was started as a project of ISNA as the Occupied Land Fund, and run out of their Indiana headquarters:

During the trial, the federal judge hearing the case ruled there was “ample evidence” that ISNA conspired to support Hamas, a terror group that opposes Israel.

GotNews.com has already reported on how Brinsley a.k.a. Muhammad’s sister also hates Israel.

 

[Fennis]

that's it I'm throwing out all my polo shirts

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Not sure how reliable this news source is, but it has some interesting info on the Islamic terrorism angle to this story...

http://gotnews.com/tag/ismaaiyl-brimsley/

The Muslim NYPD cop killer Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley worked for a Muslim Brotherhood front group, according to his Facebook page.GotNews.com has confirmed and exclusively discovered that Brinsley went by another name — Ismaaiyl Abdullah-Muhammad — and that he worked for the Islamic Society of North America.

The Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim Brotherhood front group that was described as an unindicted co-conspirator by the Justice Department in the 2007 Holy Land terror cases.

Brinsley a.k.a. Muhammad’s Facebook page includes liking pages like “I love Islam” and “I Have To Be More Philosophical, About My Life.”

Brinsley a.k.a. Muhammad’s terror attack recall an earlier hatchet attack against the NYPD by a Muslim fanatic in October of this year.

GotNews.com has already established that Brinsley’s past brushes with the law and hatred of the police come long before the controversial deaths of Eric Garner and Michael Brown.

This new revelation, taken with this Koranic passage from Brinsley’s other Facebook page, destroy the narrative that Brinsley a.k.a. Muhammad was troubled and a depressed young man. In fact, he wanted to kill cops and he did just that.

“His [attempted] killing of his ex-girlfriend is entirely consistent with an honor killing,” says John Cardillo, a former NYPD police officer who investigated terror cells in New York.

ISNA’s political action committee was founded by Abdurahman Alamoudi, who is currently in prison on terrorism charges:

In 2005, the Treasury Dept identified Alamoudi as one of the biggest fundraisers for Al-Qaeda in North America.

ISNA was named in 2007 as unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation case, the largest terrorism financing trial in American history. The Holy Land Foundation itself was started as a project of ISNA as the Occupied Land Fund, and run out of their Indiana headquarters:

During the trial, the federal judge hearing the case ruled there was “ample evidence” that ISNA conspired to support Hamas, a terror group that opposes Israel.

GotNews.com has already reported on how Brinsley a.k.a. Muhammad’s sister also hates Israel.

im so lost in this thread.

 

[General Tso]

Pretty lousy of the protesters to defy the mayor's request for a hiatus on protests until after the funerals of the two officers.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/23/new-york-police-protests-continue/20833329/

De Blasio had called for a halt to protests until after the funeral of two NYPD officers who were gunned down Saturday by a man angry over the police killings of Eric Garner, Michael Brown and other unarmed black men.Police Commissioner William Bratton, who was in Rhode Island, called Tuesday's protest "unfortunate" in light of de Blasio's request.

The action, organized by the Act Now to End War & Stop Racism Coalition, came hours before the city's landmarks, including the Empire State Building, the Chrysler building, One World Trade Center, were to dim their lights at 9 p.m. for five minutes to honor officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos.

News outlets reported that protesters' chants included "NYPD, KKK, how many kids did you kill today?" and "How do you spell murderers? NYPD!" — references to Eric Garner, who died after being placed in a chokehold by an undercover NYPD officer this summer. A Staten Island grand jury did not indict the officer.

"There have been calls to put aside the protests, well, I will tell you this, the NYPD and police around this country have not put aside their murdering of our people," said Travis Morales, of Stop Mass Incarceration Network, WABC-TV reported.

"You got no right to tell us when, how and whether we can protest," added Carl Dix, another organizer.

 

[General Tso]

These cops have the patience of a Saint. Can't believe people can actually be this rotten...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/23/protesters-heckle-nypd-cops-paying-respects-at-sla/

Protesters heckle NYPD cops paying respects at slain officers’ memorialBy Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Tuesday, December 23, 2014
A CNN correspondent at the makeshift memorial to slain NYPD Officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos reported seeing a small group of protesters heckling police officers who were there to pay their respects.

Sara Ganim said that while most of the people gathering at the memorial were being respectful, others were chanting anti-police phrases and causing a disruption.

"I do, just in full disclosure, want to say that in the last couple of minutes, for the first time today, we've seen protesters come out here and start yelling at groups of police who are mourning their slain police officers," she said to her in-studio colleague, Breitbart News reported.

"It's just a few of them, Suzanne, and like I said, just in the last five minutes, and they're quite frankly yelling at a group of police officers who are standing here silently, just looking at the memorial of candles and flowers and posters, and they're yelling similar rhetoric that we've been hearing over the last couple of weeks related to the shooting of — the chokehold death of Eric Garner and the shooting of Michael Brown in Missouri."

On Saturday, the day Officers Liu and Ramos were killed, gathering onlookers at the crime scene reportedly cheered and chanted "[expletive] the police."

"A lot of people were clapping and laughing," Brooklyn resident Carlos, who would not give his last name, told The Daily Beast.

"Some were saying, 'They deserved it,' and another was shouting at the cops, 'Serves them right because you mistreat people!'" Carlos said.

Ismaaiyl Brinsley, 28, allegedly shot and killed Officers Liu and Ramos execution-style as they sat in their patrol car in Brooklyn, before taking his own life Saturday afternoon.

Just three hours before his rampage, Brinsley posted on Instagram anti-cop rhetoric and threatened vengeance for the police-involved deaths of Garner and Michael Brown, police said.

"I'm Putting Wings On Pigs Today," Brinsley reportedly wrote. "They Take 1 Of Ours...Let's Take 2 of Theirs #ShootThePolice #RIPErivGarner #RIPMikeBrown This May Be My Final Post I'm Putting Pigs In A Blanket."

Civil rights activists and leaders, including Al Sharpton who has been at the forefront of the Garner protests, have insisted that the ongoing demonstrations are not fueling anti-police sentiments.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Pretty lousy of the protesters to defy the mayor's request for a hiatus on protests until after the funerals of the two officers.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/23/new-york-police-protests-continue/20833329/

De Blasio had called for a halt to protests until after the funeral of two NYPD officers who were gunned down Saturday by a man angry over the police killings of Eric Garner, Michael Brown and other unarmed black men.Police Commissioner William Bratton, who was in Rhode Island, called Tuesday's protest "unfortunate" in light of de Blasio's request.

The action, organized by the Act Now to End War & Stop Racism Coalition, came hours before the city's landmarks, including the Empire State Building, the Chrysler building, One World Trade Center, were to dim their lights at 9 p.m. for five minutes to honor officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos.

News outlets reported that protesters' chants included "NYPD, KKK, how many kids did you kill today?" and "How do you spell murderers? NYPD!" — references to Eric Garner, who died after being placed in a chokehold by an undercover NYPD officer this summer. A Staten Island grand jury did not indict the officer.

"There have been calls to put aside the protests, well, I will tell you this, the NYPD and police around this country have not put aside their murdering of our people," said Travis Morales, of Stop Mass Incarceration Network, WABC-TV reported.

"You got no right to tell us when, how and whether we can protest," added Carl Dix, another organizer.

Im ok with them protesting. I personally would have waited. But to be fair, they are determined in their goal and i respect that.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

These cops have the patience of a Saint. Can't believe people can actually be this rotten...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/23/protesters-heckle-nypd-cops-paying-respects-at-sla/

Protesters heckle NYPD cops paying respects at slain officers’ memorial

By Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Tuesday, December 23, 2014
A CNN correspondent at the makeshift memorial to slain NYPD Officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos reported seeing a small group of protesters heckling police officers who were there to pay their respects.

Sara Ganim said that while most of the people gathering at the memorial were being respectful, others were chanting anti-police phrases and causing a disruption.

"I do, just in full disclosure, want to say that in the last couple of minutes, for the first time today, we've seen protesters come out here and start yelling at groups of police who are mourning their slain police officers," she said to her in-studio colleague, Breitbart News reported.

"It's just a few of them, Suzanne, and like I said, just in the last five minutes, and they're quite frankly yelling at a group of police officers who are standing here silently, just looking at the memorial of candles and flowers and posters, and they're yelling similar rhetoric that we've been hearing over the last couple of weeks related to the shooting of — the chokehold death of Eric Garner and the shooting of Michael Brown in Missouri."

On Saturday, the day Officers Liu and Ramos were killed, gathering onlookers at the crime scene reportedly cheered and chanted "[expletive] the police."

"A lot of people were clapping and laughing," Brooklyn resident Carlos, who would not give his last name, told The Daily Beast.

"Some were saying, 'They deserved it,' and another was shouting at the cops, 'Serves them right because you mistreat people!'" Carlos said.

Ismaaiyl Brinsley, 28, allegedly shot and killed Officers Liu and Ramos execution-style as they sat in their patrol car in Brooklyn, before taking his own life Saturday afternoon.

Just three hours before his rampage, Brinsley posted on Instagram anti-cop rhetoric and threatened vengeance for the police-involved deaths of Garner and Michael Brown, police said.

"I'm Putting Wings On Pigs Today," Brinsley reportedly wrote. "They Take 1 Of Ours...Let's Take 2 of Theirs #ShootThePolice #RIPErivGarner #RIPMikeBrown This May Be My Final Post I'm Putting Pigs In A Blanket."

Civil rights activists and leaders, including Al Sharpton who has been at the forefront of the Garner protests, have insisted that the ongoing demonstrations are not fueling anti-police sentiments.

this is the type of #### that ruins things.

 

[General Tso]

OK, so this is crap...

Check out the CNN video in this link showing the report filed from the slain cops memorial when the police were being heckled -

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/12/23/hearts-and-minds-anti-police-protesters-crash-memorial-for-slain-nypd-officers/

I'm not even going to begin to call out how unconscionable it is to heckle anyone who is in mourning. Pretty sure we all agree that this is atrocious.

What I'd like to call out is, yet again, an example of horribly biased reporting in the media. Watch how out of the way this reporter goes to marginalize what is going on. How about covering what is actually going on - live - right there in front of you. They don't even turn their camera to show what is going on. Think they would have acted the same if it were an instance of police doing something inappropriate to a protester? It's laughable how unprofessional the media is being.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Anybody heckling at the memorial of these dead officers are Westboro Baptist Church-level ##########s.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

OK, so this is crap...

Check out the CNN video in this link showing the report filed from the slain cops memorial when the police were being heckled -

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/12/23/hearts-and-minds-anti-police-protesters-crash-memorial-for-slain-nypd-officers/

I'm not even going to begin to call out how unconscionable it is to heckle anyone who is in mourning. Pretty sure we all agree that this is atrocious.

What I'd like to call out is, yet again, an example of horribly biased reporting in the media. Watch how out of the way this reporter goes to marginalize what is going on. How about covering what is actually going on - live - right there in front of you. They don't even turn their camera to show what is going on. Think they would have acted the same if it were an instance of police doing something inappropriate to a protester? It's laughable how unprofessional the media is being.

its sad that its at the point where i cant trust anything i see on any news station. i have to do research or ask people that were there to get a fair assessment of the situation. smh

 

[General Tso]

Saint - this is for you... A great article about who looks to be behind the "dead cops" chant. TMOC. Pinky - have you heard of these guys?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/23/who-started-new-york-s-dead-cops-chant.html

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Saint - this is for you... A great article about who looks to be behind the "dead cops" chant. TMOC. Pinky - have you heard of these guys?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/23/who-started-new-york-s-dead-cops-chant.html

nope. but see we shouldnt give any attention to them. thats what they want. #### them.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

OK, so this is crap...

Check out the CNN video in this link showing the report filed from the slain cops memorial when the police were being heckled -

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/12/23/hearts-and-minds-anti-police-protesters-crash-memorial-for-slain-nypd-officers/

I'm not even going to begin to call out how unconscionable it is to heckle anyone who is in mourning. Pretty sure we all agree that this is atrocious.

What I'd like to call out is, yet again, an example of horribly biased reporting in the media. Watch how out of the way this reporter goes to marginalize what is going on. How about covering what is actually going on - live - right there in front of you. They don't even turn their camera to show what is going on. Think they would have acted the same if it were an instance of police doing something inappropriate to a protester? It's laughable how unprofessional the media is being.

its sad that its at the point where i cant trust anything i see on any news station. i have to do research or ask people that were there to get a fair assessment of the situation. smh

There's a transcript on CNN. You think that's doctored?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1412/22/cg.02.html

 

[PinkydaPimp]

OK, so this is crap...

Check out the CNN video in this link showing the report filed from the slain cops memorial when the police were being heckled -

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/12/23/hearts-and-minds-anti-police-protesters-crash-memorial-for-slain-nypd-officers/

I'm not even going to begin to call out how unconscionable it is to heckle anyone who is in mourning. Pretty sure we all agree that this is atrocious.

What I'd like to call out is, yet again, an example of horribly biased reporting in the media. Watch how out of the way this reporter goes to marginalize what is going on. How about covering what is actually going on - live - right there in front of you. They don't even turn their camera to show what is going on. Think they would have acted the same if it were an instance of police doing something inappropriate to a protester? It's laughable how unprofessional the media is being.

its sad that its at the point where i cant trust anything i see on any news station. i have to do research or ask people that were there to get a fair assessment of the situation. smh

There's a transcript on CNN. You think that's doctored?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1412/22/cg.02.html

im not reading all that. but who knows. THeres even a notice on that link that it might not be the full transcript. lol.

 

[General Tso]

Saint - this is for you... A great article about who looks to be behind the "dead cops" chant. TMOC. Pinky - have you heard of these guys?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/23/who-started-new-york-s-dead-cops-chant.html

nope. but see we shouldnt give any attention to them. thats what they want. #### them.

Attention? More like rooting them out so they can either get arrested or be ostracized. Trust me, you do not want splinter groups like this getting mixed up in the movement. They will derail your cause faster than anything.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Saint - this is for you... A great article about who looks to be behind the "dead cops" chant. TMOC. Pinky - have you heard of these guys?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/23/who-started-new-york-s-dead-cops-chant.html

That's interesting stuff, thanks, I hope others take the time to read it.

ETA - I guess we're not the only ones thinking about this. The article does some research and seems like that might be the group. But I think there are others floating around. - I was just watching CNN randomly last night, watching the live report at the protests even as the cops' memorial is ongoing and behind the reporter there was the usual sea of people and sure enough a red flag passed in view right behind the reporter. They're out there and they represent ugly things that many believe or would like to believe this country and much of the world has put behind us. These folks did not get the memo, they mean business and they see an opportunity.

 

[rockaction]

Saint - this is for you... A great article about who looks to be behind the "dead cops" chant. TMOC. Pinky - have you heard of these guys?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/23/who-started-new-york-s-dead-cops-chant.html

nope. but see we shouldnt give any attention to them. thats what they want. #### them.

Attention? More like rooting them out so they can either get arrested or be ostracized. Trust me, you do not want splinter groups like this getting mixed up in the movement. They will derail your cause faster than anything.

I think those are the anarchist flags and stars you're looking for. Any black and red star.

 

[rockaction]

Here, guys. Very interesting. The Spanish in the signs also fits. They caught a bunch of anarcho-communists/syndicalists on camera.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_symbolism

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Here, guys. Very interesting. The Spanish in the signs also fits. They caught a bunch of anarcho-communists/syndicalists on camera.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_symbolism

I thought they were an autonomous collective.

 

[General Tso]

Holy cow. Check out the TMOC facebook page. Chilling. tmocnyc

 

[rockaction]

Here, guys. Very interesting. The Spanish in the signs also fits. They caught a bunch of anarcho-communists/syndicalists on camera.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_symbolism

I thought they were an autonomous collective.

Dennis?

Gotta love when the .5% goes to war with each other. And they do. (On the internet, generally.)

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Annnd I am going to ask a question that will be scoffed at but who cares because the truth is the truth right? This is the video posted above showing the whole context of the 'til the killer cops are in a jail cell' chant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tbMdoL6UI&feature=youtu.be

At ~1:28-1:34 there is a man in a red outfit and a red flag.

What does the red flag and his wearing of those colors signify? Anyone?

Just a shot in the dark, but red is the color of protest in a lot of cultures. You'll also see a woman in a bright red hat in that shot - the French in particular wear red hats when they protest.

Ok, technically the culture we're speaking of is Baltimore.

How about in these two pictures/video?

http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2014/12/13/believe-your-ears-nyc-protesters-chant-for-dead-cops/

(^The flags are clearer in the video there but there is a description from the person who took the video in the link).

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2356732/thumbs/r-GARNER-PROTEST-NEW-YORK-CITY-600x275.jpg

Well, yes - it's in Baltimore, but that's like saying the culture of New York City. There are a lot of types of people there.

As for Communism? Maybe. But the red flag has been a symbol of defiance for hundreds of years. It's why the Communists used it in the first place. It was a symbol of mutiny or a battle to the death for hundreds of years before Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto. It's symbolically meant that the bearer is willing to die for a cause for a very long time.

I think there's a joke about "culture" and "Baltimore" in the same sentence we haven't touched yet, but anyhow...

Let's look at wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_%28politics%29#mediaviewer/File:Red_flag.svg

I know it's an unpopular line of inquiry and I will get the back of the hand for raising it. But IMHO those are the flags at the "Dead Cop" chant and they do pop up in the marches. I find it interesting, that's all. They could also be anarchists. - But let me be clear these are not the main protestors, and we all know that. Again, this is fringe element.

" a red flag is a symbol of Socialism, Communism, and left-wing politics"

I don't think anyone is suggesting that the politics of the protesters are right wing.

And anarchists would have a flag that was two colors. At least, if they were advertising their politics.

turn up the anger .......

• A local organization in Rochester, NY dedicated to advancing the ideas and struggle for Anarchist Communism.Rochester Red and Black is an emerging revolutionary organization that aims to turn Anarchism into a political force in Rochester.
  

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Even though threads like this can be a bit of a nightmare in the FFA, it think that the way things get better starts with folks(from different viewpoints) being able to have these conversations on a regular basis. So for that i am grateful.

Happy Holidays yall.

 

[jamny]

Gang members threaten to shoot up NYPD station house

The NYPD set up SWAT teams at two Bedford-Stuyvesant police precincts Tuesday night — after a confidential informant told cops about overhearing a gang plot to “shoot it out” at the station houses.

Four Emergency Services Unit officers, outfitted with helmets and assault weapons, were stationed at the 79th precinct. Another two were at the 81st.

The beefed up security was prompted by a confidential informant, who told cops of overhearing a member of the Baltimore-based Black Guerrilla Family talking with fellow gang members about plans to “shoot it out with police” at the two precincts, law enforcement sources told The Post.

The gang member served three years in jail for robbery and attempted murder.

Officials differed in their characterizations of the seriousness of the alleged threat.

A senior police official conceded to The Post that, “We’re investigating that threat, but at this time, “It does not appear to be credible.”

“I’m told it’s credible,” Ed Mullins President Sergeants Benevolent Association countered of the threat. “We’ve got emergency service personnel providing additional security outside of precincts. It’s credible.”

This is the second alleged threat against cops this month that comes from the Black Guerrilla Family.

On Dec. 7 officers were urged to wear their bullet-proof vests and pack extra ammo because of a “verified” threat that they are being targeted by the same gang.

 

[Two Deep]

Gang members threaten to shoot up NYPD station house

The NYPD set up SWAT teams at two Bedford-Stuyvesant police precincts Tuesday night — after a confidential informant told cops about overhearing a gang plot to “shoot it out” at the station houses.

Four Emergency Services Unit officers, outfitted with helmets and assault weapons, were stationed at the 79th precinct. Another two were at the 81st.

The beefed up security was prompted by a confidential informant, who told cops of overhearing a member of the Baltimore-based Black Guerrilla Family talking with fellow gang members about plans to “shoot it out with police” at the two precincts, law enforcement sources told The Post.

The gang member served three years in jail for robbery and attempted murder.

Officials differed in their characterizations of the seriousness of the alleged threat.

A senior police official conceded to The Post that, “We’re investigating that threat, but at this time, “It does not appear to be credible.”

“I’m told it’s credible,” Ed Mullins President Sergeants Benevolent Association countered of the threat. “We’ve got emergency service personnel providing additional security outside of precincts. It’s credible.”

This is the second alleged threat against cops this month that comes from the Black Guerrilla Family.

On Dec. 7 officers were urged to wear their bullet-proof vests and pack extra ammo because of a “verified” threat that they are being targeted by the same gang.

They may want to consider a name change.

 

[lod01]

Gang members threaten to shoot up NYPD station house

The NYPD set up SWAT teams at two Bedford-Stuyvesant police precincts Tuesday night — after a confidential informant told cops about overhearing a gang plot to “shoot it out” at the station houses.

Four Emergency Services Unit officers, outfitted with helmets and assault weapons, were stationed at the 79th precinct. Another two were at the 81st.

The beefed up security was prompted by a confidential informant, who told cops of overhearing a member of the Baltimore-based Black Guerrilla Family talking with fellow gang members about plans to “shoot it out with police” at the two precincts, law enforcement sources told The Post.

The gang member served three years in jail for robbery and attempted murder.

Officials differed in their characterizations of the seriousness of the alleged threat.

A senior police official conceded to The Post that, “We’re investigating that threat, but at this time, “It does not appear to be credible.”

“I’m told it’s credible,” Ed Mullins President Sergeants Benevolent Association countered of the threat. “We’ve got emergency service personnel providing additional security outside of precincts. It’s credible.”

This is the second alleged threat against cops this month that comes from the Black Guerrilla Family.

On Dec. 7 officers were urged to wear their bullet-proof vests and pack extra ammo because of a “verified” threat that they are being targeted by the same gang.

They may want to consider a name change.

Sure sounds terrorist-like to me also.

 

[General Tso]

Even though threads like this can be a bit of a nightmare in the FFA, it think that the way things get better starts with folks(from different viewpoints) being able to have these conversations on a regular basis. So for that i am grateful.

Happy Holidays yall.

You're a good man Pinky. Happy Holidays to you as well.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Gang members threaten to shoot up NYPD station house

The NYPD set up SWAT teams at two Bedford-Stuyvesant police precincts Tuesday night — after a confidential informant told cops about overhearing a gang plot to “shoot it out” at the station houses.

Four Emergency Services Unit officers, outfitted with helmets and assault weapons, were stationed at the 79th precinct. Another two were at the 81st.

The beefed up security was prompted by a confidential informant, who told cops of overhearing a member of the Baltimore-based Black Guerrilla Family talking with fellow gang members about plans to “shoot it out with police” at the two precincts, law enforcement sources told The Post.

The gang member served three years in jail for robbery and attempted murder.

Officials differed in their characterizations of the seriousness of the alleged threat.

A senior police official conceded to The Post that, “We’re investigating that threat, but at this time, “It does not appear to be credible.”

“I’m told it’s credible,” Ed Mullins President Sergeants Benevolent Association countered of the threat. “We’ve got emergency service personnel providing additional security outside of precincts. It’s credible.”

This is the second alleged threat against cops this month that comes from the Black Guerrilla Family.

On Dec. 7 officers were urged to wear their bullet-proof vests and pack extra ammo because of a “verified” threat that they are being targeted by the same gang.

They may want to consider a name change.

Sure sounds terrorist-like to me also.

Assault on precinct 13

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

You go-getters crack this case yet?

 

[General Tso]

You go-getters crack this case yet?

I still think your cat had something to do with it, but I can't prove it just yet.

 

[fatness]

A Fox affiliate in Baltimore aired a segment on Sunday showing footage from a "Justice For All" demonstration in Washington, D.C. in which it edited a chant to sound like protestors were shouting "kill a cop."

"At this rally in Washington, D.C. protestors chanted, 'we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop,'" the WBFF broadcast said.

But the full footage, flagged by Gawker on Monday via C-SPAN, revealed that the chant was "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops are in cell blocks."

The protest was attended by Rev. Al Sharpton. YouTube videos of the misinterpreted chant contain labels such as "Sharpton's 'Go Kill A Cop' March."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-wbff-edit-protest-kill-a-cop

Well now it makes sense what Pinky was talking about earlier.This is really atrocious, and needs to be investigated further. A "mistake" like this can't happen at a news station. That protester's safety was sacrificed and she was put in legitimate danger.

What's sad about this story is the lengths both the left and the right will go to to bend the truth to fit their agendas. First off, the Fox station HAD to know that this lady was not chanting "so kill a cop" even if it sounded like she was. All they had to do was view the full, original 2 minute clip from CSPAN to hear her say the entire chant, where in full context it is obvious she is saying "till killer cops... In cell blocks". The station has an obligation to explain exactly what occurred, and other news stations in the area should be aggressively covering this story as well. It borders on criminal conduct if they knew the full contents of the tape. And if they didn't know the full contents of the tape, then they are professionally delinquent at a minimum, and somebody needs to be fired.

On the flip side - and far less egregious though still noteworthy, the Liberal news that reported this goes out of it's way to say that the station "edited the chant" to make it sound like "so kill a cop". I listened to both the source tape and the news version and it doesn't sound edited at all. They didn't need to edit the tape. It sounds like she says "so kill a cop" in both versions. But what the news station did do from an editorial standpoint is not show the next line of the chant - "in cell blocks" - which would have helped clarify what she was saying. But rather than explain this, Gawker takes the intellectual low road and asserts that they doctored the sound. It's like going out of your way to frame a guilty man. So unnecessary.

The whole thing sucks. Everyone is full of #### these days. Sad.

Where did Gawker say that Fox doctored the sound? All I saw was an article on the editing - which clipped the end of the chant off.

justr to be clear, it was a local affiliate tv station and not Fox news. Stop being part of the lie-spreading problem

Just to be clear, "Fox News" does not appear in my post, nor does my post attribute anything at all to anyone in particular. In fact, what I said was "Where did Gawker say that Fox doctored the sound?" which implies that saying such a thing would be false - then I posted what actually happened. And that part of my post doesn't attribute anything to anyone at all.

Also, is the affiliate a Fox affiliate? When you bring it up on the channel guide, does it say "Fox"? Is its website "foxbaltimore.com"? Because if it's not Fox, it should probably be sued.

Fox45 is how the Baltimore station identifies itself.

http://www.foxbaltimore.com/

 

[fatness]

What bothers me about the TPM article is the way they described things:

A Fox affiliate in Baltimore aired a segment on Sunday showing footage from a "Justice For All" demonstration in Washington, D.C. in which it edited a chant to sound like protestors were shouting "kill a cop."

This really does imply that they doctored the audio, which we know they didn't do. They should have just described it as you and I both did. Or, at minimum, they could have said "in which it edited a video to make it sound like protesters were shouting kill a cop".

The actual video aired is the last video on this page: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-wbff-edit-protest-kill-a-cop

Before playing part of the chant, the voiceover announcer for the station says "particpants chanted 'We won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop' ."

 

[Henry Ford]

A Fox affiliate in Baltimore aired a segment on Sunday showing footage from a "Justice For All" demonstration in Washington, D.C. in which it edited a chant to sound like protestors were shouting "kill a cop."

"At this rally in Washington, D.C. protestors chanted, 'we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop,'" the WBFF broadcast said.

But the full footage, flagged by Gawker on Monday via C-SPAN, revealed that the chant was "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops are in cell blocks."

The protest was attended by Rev. Al Sharpton. YouTube videos of the misinterpreted chant contain labels such as "Sharpton's 'Go Kill A Cop' March."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-wbff-edit-protest-kill-a-cop

Well now it makes sense what Pinky was talking about earlier.This is really atrocious, and needs to be investigated further. A "mistake" like this can't happen at a news station. That protester's safety was sacrificed and she was put in legitimate danger.

What's sad about this story is the lengths both the left and the right will go to to bend the truth to fit their agendas. First off, the Fox station HAD to know that this lady was not chanting "so kill a cop" even if it sounded like she was. All they had to do was view the full, original 2 minute clip from CSPAN to hear her say the entire chant, where in full context it is obvious she is saying "till killer cops... In cell blocks". The station has an obligation to explain exactly what occurred, and other news stations in the area should be aggressively covering this story as well. It borders on criminal conduct if they knew the full contents of the tape. And if they didn't know the full contents of the tape, then they are professionally delinquent at a minimum, and somebody needs to be fired.

On the flip side - and far less egregious though still noteworthy, the Liberal news that reported this goes out of it's way to say that the station "edited the chant" to make it sound like "so kill a cop". I listened to both the source tape and the news version and it doesn't sound edited at all. They didn't need to edit the tape. It sounds like she says "so kill a cop" in both versions. But what the news station did do from an editorial standpoint is not show the next line of the chant - "in cell blocks" - which would have helped clarify what she was saying. But rather than explain this, Gawker takes the intellectual low road and asserts that they doctored the sound. It's like going out of your way to frame a guilty man. So unnecessary.

The whole thing sucks. Everyone is full of #### these days. Sad.

Where did Gawker say that Fox doctored the sound? All I saw was an article on the editing - which clipped the end of the chant off.

justr to be clear, it was a local affiliate tv station and not Fox news. Stop being part of the lie-spreading problem

Just to be clear, "Fox News" does not appear in my post, nor does my post attribute anything at all to anyone in particular. In fact, what I said was "Where did Gawker say that Fox doctored the sound?" which implies that saying such a thing would be false - then I posted what actually happened. And that part of my post doesn't attribute anything to anyone at all.

Also, is the affiliate a Fox affiliate? When you bring it up on the channel guide, does it say "Fox"? Is its website "foxbaltimore.com"? Because if it's not Fox, it should probably be sued.

Fox45 is how the Baltimore station identifies itself.

http://www.foxbaltimore.com/

 

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I really don't know what relevance it had; I was just trying to provide information. The 4 main stations in Baltimore are

2 - ABC

11 - NBC

13 - CBS

45 - Fox