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Coward fatally ambushes 2 NYPD, commits suicide (1 Viewer)

These cops were part of a safety initiative in Bed-Stuy that had seen crime drop 33%. They were helping people, in a largely minority neighborhood no less.

 
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Can we get this thread off Sharpton and back to the topic at hand? I already linked to his condemnation of the attack. Geez. :rolleyes:
So according to this very right wing site (popped up on Bing news...), this is what was posted on the killer's facebook page:

http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/jihad.jpg

Yep, koranic verse.

Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
And:

Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley announced on Instagram

They Take 1 Of Ours Lets Take 2 of Theirs. And murdered two police officers.
His name is Ismaaiyl Abdullah, and we're surprised he quotes the Qur'an?

 
Can we get this thread off Sharpton and back to the topic at hand? I already linked to his condemnation of the attack. Geez. :rolleyes:
So according to this very right wing site (popped up on Bing news...), this is what was posted on the killer's facebook page:

http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/jihad.jpg

Yep, koranic verse.

Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
And:

Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley announced on Instagram

They Take 1 Of Ours Lets Take 2 of Theirs. And murdered two police officers.
His name is Ismaaiyl Abdullah, and we're surprised he quotes the Qur'an?
And you think these things (Farrakhan speaking in Baltimore, the killer from Baltimore, the Surah quoted....) are unconnected?

Ok.

 
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Can we get this thread off Sharpton and back to the topic at hand? I already linked to his condemnation of the attack. Geez. :rolleyes:
So according to this very right wing site (popped up on Bing news...), this is what was posted on the killer's facebook page:

http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/jihad.jpg

Yep, koranic verse.

Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
And:

Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley announced on Instagram

They Take 1 Of Ours Lets Take 2 of Theirs. And murdered two police officers.
His name is Ismaaiyl Abdullah, and we're surprised he quotes the Qur'an?
And you think these things (Farrakhan in Baltimore, the killer from Baltimore, the Surah quoted....) are unconnected?

Ok.
When Scott Roeder shot an abortion doctor, did we blame Christianity?You edited before I typed:

I don't think that these things are "unconnected" in the mind of the shooter, nor do I think the religion is at fault.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
Can we get this thread off Sharpton and back to the topic at hand? I already linked to his condemnation of the attack. Geez. :rolleyes:
So according to this very right wing site (popped up on Bing news...), this is what was posted on the killer's facebook page:

http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/jihad.jpg

Yep, koranic verse.

Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
And:

Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley announced on Instagram

They Take 1 Of Ours Lets Take 2 of Theirs. And murdered two police officers.
His name is Ismaaiyl Abdullah, and we're surprised he quotes the Qur'an?
And you think these things (Farrakhan in Baltimore, the killer from Baltimore, the Surah quoted....) are unconnected?

Ok.
When Scott Roeder shot an abortion doctor, did we blame Christianity?
I don't think I blamed islam there Henry but the facts shouldn't be ignored because they do concern islam either.
See my edit. I misunderstood your point, realized you had edited before I typed my answer.

 
Very bad situation for De Blasio.
Ouch. Hard to see a scenario where he has their support again. He may be gone.
Yeah, the level of animosity here is unprecedented. You can't have the police interrupting his speeches and turning their backs on the Mayor of the most important city in the world. Wouldn't be surprised if this spirals to the point where the Mayor has to step down.
 
Very bad situation for De Blasio.
Ouch. Hard to see a scenario where he has their support again. He may be gone.
Yeah, the level of animosity here is unprecedented. You can't have the police interrupting his speeches and turning their backs on the Mayor of the most important city in the world. Wouldn't be surprised if this spirals to the point where the Mayor has to step down.
He's mayor of London?
 
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The Game (rapper) chimes in:@thegame: I guess y'all "can't breathe" either. #RIPEricGarner #AllLivesMatter @ Brighton & Hove, UK http://t.co/7ztu51OpY3
1st class guy there. Cops will just be quicker on the trigger and I dont blame them.
Let's hope
Let's hope what? Cops are quicker on the trigger? That is a pretty despicable side to take.
Despicable? Nah.

 
Stuff like this is exactly why police officers have to always expect the worst intentions of every suspect.
The Game (rapper) chimes in:@thegame: I guess y'all "can't breathe" either. #RIPEricGarner #AllLivesMatter @ Brighton & Hove, UK http://t.co/7ztu51OpY3
1st class guy there. Cops will just be quicker on the trigger and I dont blame them.
Let's hope
Let's hope what? Cops are quicker on the trigger? That is a pretty despicable side to take.
Despicable? Nah.
Ironically it just recreates the context of what happened with Michael Brown. Man tries to take the cop's gun, gun goes off, moments later the man is charging the cop.

What does the cop do?

 
The Game (rapper) chimes in:@thegame: I guess y'all "can't breathe" either. #RIPEricGarner #AllLivesMatter @ Brighton & Hove, UK http://t.co/7ztu51OpY3
1st class guy there. Cops will just be quicker on the trigger and I dont blame them.
Let's hope
Let's hope what? Cops are quicker on the trigger? That is a pretty despicable side to take.
Despicable? Nah.
Your view is no different/better than the other side. An eye for an eye leaves us all blind.
 
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Stuff like this is exactly why police officers have to always expect the worst intentions of every suspect.
The Game (rapper) chimes in:@thegame: I guess y'all "can't breathe" either. #RIPEricGarner #AllLivesMatter @ Brighton & Hove, UK http://t.co/7ztu51OpY3
1st class guy there. Cops will just be quicker on the trigger and I dont blame them.
Let's hope
Let's hope what? Cops are quicker on the trigger? That is a pretty despicable side to take.
Despicable? Nah.
Ironically it just recreates the context of what happened with Michael Brown. Man tries to take the cop's gun, gun goes off, moments later the man is charging the cop.

What does the cop do?
This incident today is a perfect example of if a cop feels his life could be at risk he needs to take action. Unfortunately in this case it appears they never saw it coming.

 
The Game (rapper) chimes in:@thegame: I guess y'all "can't breathe" either. #RIPEricGarner #AllLivesMatter @ Brighton & Hove, UK http://t.co/7ztu51OpY3
1st class guy there. Cops will just be quicker on the trigger and I dont blame them.
Let's hope
Let's hope what? Cops are quicker on the trigger? That is a pretty despicable side to take.
Despicable? Nah.
Your view is no different/better than the other side. An eye for an eye leaves us all blind.
One side is innocent, the other isn't you imbecile.

 
Sharpton demagoguery almost rises to the level of fascistic at times, it's almost Crown Heights all over again. He and De Blasio and their ilk should turn down the rhetoric now.

Tragic.
Thanks for instantly turning this thread political.
I'm sorry my friend but politics may be the motive and cause for the killing.
Best of luck in scoring your political points.
Ok Martie, much respect towards you and I mean that. But politics is at the heart of this, feel free to discuss it without as well, but we will wind up with with a lot of blanks when it comes to motive . Apologies if I have offended, and I also mean that.
#### that. It's not your fault the majority of people who went anti-cop recently had the same political leanings.
I try to keep it polite and respectful. It would help if MM provided his own apolitical insights because I'm not sure how this issue can be discussed honestly without looking at what is essentially a political murder as just that.
My first thought is that this was a senseless and cold blooded murder perpetrated by a lunatic. I'm not sure what other "insights" I am expected to give at this point; several hours after it happened. I just found it interesting that your first reaction was to bring up Sharpton and De Blasio.

 
Sharpton demagoguery almost rises to the level of fascistic at times, it's almost Crown Heights all over again. He and De Blasio and their ilk should turn down the rhetoric now.

Tragic.
Thanks for instantly turning this thread political.
I'm sorry my friend but politics may be the motive and cause for the killing.
Best of luck in scoring your political points.
Ok Martie, much respect towards you and I mean that. But politics is at the heart of this, feel free to discuss it without as well, but we will wind up with with a lot of blanks when it comes to motive . Apologies if I have offended, and I also mean that.
#### that. It's not your fault the majority of people who went anti-cop recently had the same political leanings.
I try to keep it polite and respectful. It would help if MM provided his own apolitical insights because I'm not sure how this issue can be discussed honestly without looking at what is essentially a political murder as just that.
My first thought is that this was a senseless and cold blooded murder perpetrated by a lunatic. I'm not sure what other "insights" I am expected to give at this point; several hours after it happened. I just found it interesting that your first reaction was to bring up Sharpton and De Blasio.
Ok Martie, this was a senseless and cold blooded murder, and De Blasio and Sharpton and no other political figures or events played a role in this. I guess I just saw it wrong.

 
Sharpton demagoguery almost rises to the level of fascistic at times, it's almost Crown Heights all over again. He and De Blasio and their ilk should turn down the rhetoric now.

Tragic.
Thanks for instantly turning this thread political.
I'm sorry my friend but politics may be the motive and cause for the killing.
Best of luck in scoring your political points.
Ok Martie, much respect towards you and I mean that. But politics is at the heart of this, feel free to discuss it without as well, but we will wind up with with a lot of blanks when it comes to motive . Apologies if I have offended, and I also mean that.
#### that. It's not your fault the majority of people who went anti-cop recently had the same political leanings.
I try to keep it polite and respectful. It would help if MM provided his own apolitical insights because I'm not sure how this issue can be discussed honestly without looking at what is essentially a political murder as just that.
My first thought is that this was a senseless and cold blooded murder perpetrated by a lunatic. I'm not sure what other "insights" I am expected to give at this point; several hours after it happened. I just found it interesting that your first reaction was to bring up Sharpton and De Blasio.
Ok Martie, this was a senseless and cold blooded murder, and De Blasio and Sharpton and no other political figures or events played a role in this. I guess I just saw it wrong.
:shrug:

I'd tell you to enjoy the ensuing political slap fight in this thread, but I already know you will.

 
Sharpton demagoguery almost rises to the level of fascistic at times, it's almost Crown Heights all over again. He and De Blasio and their ilk should turn down the rhetoric now.

Tragic.
Thanks for instantly turning this thread political.
I'm sorry my friend but politics may be the motive and cause for the killing.
Best of luck in scoring your political points.
Ok Martie, much respect towards you and I mean that. But politics is at the heart of this, feel free to discuss it without as well, but we will wind up with with a lot of blanks when it comes to motive . Apologies if I have offended, and I also mean that.
#### that. It's not your fault the majority of people who went anti-cop recently had the same political leanings.
I try to keep it polite and respectful. It would help if MM provided his own apolitical insights because I'm not sure how this issue can be discussed honestly without looking at what is essentially a political murder as just that.
My first thought is that this was a senseless and cold blooded murder perpetrated by a lunatic. I'm not sure what other "insights" I am expected to give at this point; several hours after it happened. I just found it interesting that your first reaction was to bring up Sharpton and De Blasio.
Ok Martie, this was a senseless and cold blooded murder, and De Blasio and Sharpton and no other political figures or events played a role in this. I guess I just saw it wrong.
:shrug:

I'd tell you to enjoy the ensuing political slap fight in this thread, but I already know you will.
I love politics; I abhor tragedy.

 
The knuckledraggers these threads draw out are pretty entertaining.
Remember when the NYPD were national heroes after the attacks on NYC and DC in 2001?

They still are, right?
Hey, Lee Greenwood, life in the city existed before and after 9/11. People...actions. While it was primarily the FDNY who were running up the stairs, countless immeasurable sacrifices were made by NYPD. Not sure what that has to do with this.

 
Sharpton demagoguery almost rises to the level of fascistic at times, it's almost Crown Heights all over again. He and De Blasio and their ilk should turn down the rhetoric now.

Tragic.
Thanks for instantly turning this thread political.
I'm sorry my friend but politics may be the motive and cause for the killing.
Best of luck in scoring your political points.
Ok Martie, much respect towards you and I mean that. But politics is at the heart of this, feel free to discuss it without as well, but we will wind up with with a lot of blanks when it comes to motive . Apologies if I have offended, and I also mean that.
#### that. It's not your fault the majority of people who went anti-cop recently had the same political leanings.
I try to keep it polite and respectful. It would help if MM provided his own apolitical insights because I'm not sure how this issue can be discussed honestly without looking at what is essentially a political murder as just that.
My first thought is that this was a senseless and cold blooded murder perpetrated by a lunatic. I'm not sure what other "insights" I am expected to give at this point; several hours after it happened. I just found it interesting that your first reaction was to bring up Sharpton and De Blasio.
The killer may have been a lunatic, but he was certainly motivated by politics. Are you really going to deny a link between the Eric Garner case and the Brinsley murders today? Are you that blind? Or is it intentional bias?
 
The knuckledraggers these threads draw out are pretty entertaining.
Remember when the NYPD were national heroes after the attacks on NYC and DC in 2001?

They still are, right?
Hey, Lee Greenwood, life in the city existed before and after 9/11. People...actions. While it was primarily the FDNY who were running up the stairs, countless immeasurable sacrifices were made by NYPD. Not sure what that has to do with this.
I guess because I'm shocked by a protest through NYC calling for the deaths of NYPD cops, I'm surprised by the execution murders of NYPD cops because they are cops, and I'm just hoping that ultimately we all support them at this moment, and most especially I hope that New Yorkers support them. On that last point I'm sure they will.

 
Sharpton demagoguery almost rises to the level of fascistic at times, it's almost Crown Heights all over again. He and De Blasio and their ilk should turn down the rhetoric now.

Tragic.
Thanks for instantly turning this thread political.
I'm sorry my friend but politics may be the motive and cause for the killing.
Best of luck in scoring your political points.
Ok Martie, much respect towards you and I mean that. But politics is at the heart of this, feel free to discuss it without as well, but we will wind up with with a lot of blanks when it comes to motive . Apologies if I have offended, and I also mean that.
#### that. It's not your fault the majority of people who went anti-cop recently had the same political leanings.
I try to keep it polite and respectful. It would help if MM provided his own apolitical insights because I'm not sure how this issue can be discussed honestly without looking at what is essentially a political murder as just that.
My first thought is that this was a senseless and cold blooded murder perpetrated by a lunatic. I'm not sure what other "insights" I am expected to give at this point; several hours after it happened. I just found it interesting that your first reaction was to bring up Sharpton and De Blasio.
Your first thought was very kindergarten-esque. This did not happen in a vacuum. Context is indeed very important. Sharpton and De Blasio both have blood on their hands. Get a clue.

 
How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?
I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them. But he certainly doesn't have to help foster an anti-police environment. He clearly chose who to support and who not to support, and now it's come back to bite him in the ###. I've never seen such hostility towards a Mayor from a Police Department. Openly accosting him during press conferences. Turning his back on him when he walks by. It's like a football team that won't walk into the huddle because the hate their Quarterback.

 
The knuckledraggers these threads draw out are pretty entertaining.
Also, like clockwork, Apple Jack to the rescue with condescending comments that portend he is so, so above the fray. Bravo Professor!!! Well Done!!!
I like threads like this. Shows people's true colors. Some people step up, and others just step in it. Goes that way for life too.
That's why America is the greatest country in the world! A true cornucopia of poop. I include myself in the cornucopia, btw, I would probably of the 'soft and slimy nuggets' variety.

 
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Sharpton demagoguery almost rises to the level of fascistic at times, it's almost Crown Heights all over again. He and De Blasio and their ilk should turn down the rhetoric now.

Tragic.
Thanks for instantly turning this thread political.
I'm sorry my friend but politics may be the motive and cause for the killing.
Best of luck in scoring your political points.
Ok Martie, much respect towards you and I mean that. But politics is at the heart of this, feel free to discuss it without as well, but we will wind up with with a lot of blanks when it comes to motive . Apologies if I have offended, and I also mean that.
#### that. It's not your fault the majority of people who went anti-cop recently had the same political leanings.
I try to keep it polite and respectful. It would help if MM provided his own apolitical insights because I'm not sure how this issue can be discussed honestly without looking at what is essentially a political murder as just that.
My first thought is that this was a senseless and cold blooded murder perpetrated by a lunatic. I'm not sure what other "insights" I am expected to give at this point; several hours after it happened. I just found it interesting that your first reaction was to bring up Sharpton and De Blasio.
well, when you have the president of the police union saying there is blood on the mayors hands, this story is bigger, unfortunately, these officer's mere deaths, tragic as they are and may they rest in peace.

 
Can I both respect the NYPD and post about some weird stuff that happened to me there?

I was dragged off of the street -- I literally took a step out of a roped off area off a bar -- with a gin and tonic. I was, in the cop car, threatened with various physical acts, including forcible sodomy, jail, and no trial nor lawyer for a week. I hadn't said a word. This was literally the response I got for a dumb-assed, white boy action.

I know this isn't the right place, but there are serious issues with that department, and I'll never forget my utter fear at being shoved in the back of a car, not resisting, and being ####ed with in a major way. I can't imagine what it's like for not such a clean-cut, relatively young white dude. I don't like Jack White's posting because he's an insensitive idiot about all things, but I've seen the NYPD do messed up stuff. They've towed my car without notice and moved it to different spots and just shrugged.*

eta* This last sentence is a dumb point. What else to say? I guess it goes to power and not caring about citizen concerns? Whatever.

 
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