Coward fatally ambushes 2 NYPD, commits suicide (1 Viewer)

[General Tso]

Wings on pigs and pigs in a blanket...ouch

So it's been almost an hour since this despicable statement was uttered. So far no condemnation from FBG Community. Serious question, and I'm not trying to troll here... What if someone a few weeks ago, at the height of the Mike Brown or Eric Garner passions, someone came into one of the threads in here and said something like "Pigs in a blanket... ouch"? only they replaced the "P" with an "N"? You think it goes 30 minutes without a response? You think the person gets banned? Suspended?I was suspended last week for using a swear word. It's amazing what is and isn't allowed or tolerated in here.

Why is what SHIZ wrote so bad? I thought that's what the cop killer put in his Instagram account.

As far as I could tell, the killer wrote "Wings on a pig". Haven't heard anything about the killer saying "pigs in a blanket". Sounded like a tasteless joke referencing the Geico commercial. If I am wrong about this I apologize.Without any added context it's an inflammatory statement.

you should apologize cuz he wrote both

yes he did. And I do apologize to Shiz. What he said was not off base at all. My bad.

I'm obviously too emotional about this whole thing so I'm going to bow out of this. Sorry guys.

 

[mr roboto]

Some of you need to s t f u until you actually know w t f you are talking about.

 

[Tom Servo]

Some of you need to s t f u until you actually know w t f you are talking about.

And maybe do some yoga or some other calming exercise.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Some of you need to s t f u until you actually know w t f you are talking about.

And maybe do some yoga or some other calming exercise.

Or look at girls in yoga pants if you can't actually do the yoga

 

[General Tso]

I apologized to Shiz personally and I'm going to delete my post. It's amazing how passions can cloud your judgment at times. Good lesson to learn...

The yoga sounds like a good idea. Though I'm not wearing the pants.

 

[Fennis]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

 

[fantasycurse42]

people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons.

This will never be solved, unfortunately.

 

[mr roboto]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

Is there any 'type of shooter' who you would be interested in their motivation? Neo-con? Fundie Christian? Anarchist leftist?IOW is the very fact that someone is crazy enough to shoot and kill strangers in cold blood invalidate their own stated motivation? No matter what it is the only answer is 'they are just nucking futs'?

 

[Henry Ford]

Just heard confirmation of a report I heard last night that there was another attempted murder of a cop last night n New York. A guy put a gun to a cops head and pulled the trigger, but it jammed.

New York police are operating under war-time measures not seen in almost 40 years. Police will not respond to any scene without backup.

If true that is extremely serious. We're in a crisis, or NYC is.

I read the The Daily News almost cover to cover this morning, nothing like this mentioned. If this was true, it would've been in there or on their website.

Yep, agree, need some confirmation from a real news source.

Fox News (not sure if this is real enough for any of us lol) reported it 20 minutes ago. It's also in the NY Daily News. http://nypost.com/2014/12/21/man-aimed-gun-in-cops-face-pulled-trigger-officials/I was following it on reddit last night and it seemed legit.

The story stated in that Post article (not the Daily News) is not about someone putting a gun to a cop's head and it jamming.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

There's no proof that the shooter is mentally ill, but there is proof that he was motivated by the current anti-police climate. It seems more appropriate to discuss the motivation that's certain and enunciated by the killer than to speculate about possible mental illness.

 

[Fennis]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

Is there any 'type of shooter' who you would be interested in their motivation? Neo-con? Fundie Christian? Anarchist leftist?IOW is the very fact that someone is crazy enough to shoot and kill strangers in cold blood invalidate their own stated motivation? No matter what it is the only answer is 'they are just nucking futs'?

Lets say he was motivated by Eric Garner. So now what? Don't protest what many considered police brutality or injustices, because one nut might do something?

If Garner never happened this dude is shooting someone else, we just wouldn't have heard about it. Hell the more I learn about this guy he probably had killed someone else prior to doing this.

 

[General Tso]

Just heard confirmation of a report I heard last night that there was another attempted murder of a cop last night n New York. A guy put a gun to a cops head and pulled the trigger, but it jammed.

New York police are operating under war-time measures not seen in almost 40 years. Police will not respond to any scene without backup.

If true that is extremely serious. We're in a crisis, or NYC is.

I read the The Daily News almost cover to cover this morning, nothing like this mentioned. If this was true, it would've been in there or on their website.

Yep, agree, need some confirmation from a real news source.

Fox News (not sure if this is real enough for any of us lol) reported it 20 minutes ago. It's also in the NY Daily News. http://nypost.com/2014/12/21/man-aimed-gun-in-cops-face-pulled-trigger-officials/I was following it on reddit last night and it seemed legit.

The story stated in that Post article (not the Daily News) is not about someone putting a gun to a cop's head and it jamming.

Correct. The initial reddit report was that the gun jammed. The official reports that have come out since then are that the the guy pointed the gun to the cops head, pulled the trigger twice, but was out of bullets. The intent was still the same apparently, at least that's what's being alleged right now.

 

[Fennis]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

There's no proof that the shooter is mentally ill, but there is proof that he was motivated by the current anti-police climate. It seems more appropriate to discuss the motivation that's certain and enunciated by the killer than to speculate about possible mental illness.

he shot his GF, then killed two cops and himself. I'm no Dr. Laura, but that's pretty strong proof he was mentally ill

 

[shadyridr]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

There's no proof that the shooter is mentally ill, but there is proof that he was motivated by the current anti-police climate. It seems more appropriate to discuss the motivation that's certain and enunciated by the killer than to speculate about possible mental illness.

he shot his GF, then killed two cops and himself. I'm no Dr. Laura, but that's pretty strong proof he was mentally ill

huh? Everyone that shoots someone isnt mentally ill

 

[Gary Coal Man]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

There's no proof that the shooter is mentally ill, but there is proof that he was motivated by the current anti-police climate. It seems more appropriate to discuss the motivation that's certain and enunciated by the killer than to speculate about possible mental illness.

he shot his GF, then killed two cops and himself. I'm no Dr. Laura, but that's pretty strong proof he was mentally ill

No, it isn't.

What percentage of killers are deemed mentally unfit such that they can't stand trial? It's exceptionally low. Like 1% low. There are bad people out there who murder without being mentally ill.

 

[Fennis]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

There's no proof that the shooter is mentally ill, but there is proof that he was motivated by the current anti-police climate. It seems more appropriate to discuss the motivation that's certain and enunciated by the killer than to speculate about possible mental illness.

he shot his GF, then killed two cops and himself. I'm no Dr. Laura, but that's pretty strong proof he was mentally ill

huh? Everyone that shoots someone isnt mentally ill

I'm sticking with everyone who shoots their GF, then kills two cops, and then shoots themselves is mentally ill.

 

[shadyridr]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

There's no proof that the shooter is mentally ill, but there is proof that he was motivated by the current anti-police climate. It seems more appropriate to discuss the motivation that's certain and enunciated by the killer than to speculate about possible mental illness.

he shot his GF, then killed two cops and himself. I'm no Dr. Laura, but that's pretty strong proof he was mentally ill

huh? Everyone that shoots someone isnt mentally ill

I'm sticking with everyone who shoots their GF, then kills two cops, and then shoots themselves is mentally ill.

well you can stick by that theory. This guy was a gang banger. Id say the odds are more likely he wasnt mentally ill.

 

[Fennis]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

There's no proof that the shooter is mentally ill, but there is proof that he was motivated by the current anti-police climate. It seems more appropriate to discuss the motivation that's certain and enunciated by the killer than to speculate about possible mental illness.

he shot his GF, then killed two cops and himself. I'm no Dr. Laura, but that's pretty strong proof he was mentally ill

No, it isn't.

What percentage of killers are deemed mentally unfit such that they can't stand trial? It's exceptionally low. Like 1% low. There are bad people out there who murder without being mentally ill.

AFAIK, being unfit for trial is a much different standard than having a mental illness. I believe you have to not know the difference between right and wrong.

 

[Fennis]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

There's no proof that the shooter is mentally ill, but there is proof that he was motivated by the current anti-police climate. It seems more appropriate to discuss the motivation that's certain and enunciated by the killer than to speculate about possible mental illness.

he shot his GF, then killed two cops and himself. I'm no Dr. Laura, but that's pretty strong proof he was mentally ill

huh? Everyone that shoots someone isnt mentally ill

I'm sticking with everyone who shoots their GF, then kills two cops, and then shoots themselves is mentally ill.

well you can stick by that theory. This guy was a gang banger. Id say the odds are more likely he wasnt mentally ill.

why did he shoot his GF? Why did he kill himself?

 

[shadyridr]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

There's no proof that the shooter is mentally ill, but there is proof that he was motivated by the current anti-police climate. It seems more appropriate to discuss the motivation that's certain and enunciated by the killer than to speculate about possible mental illness.

he shot his GF, then killed two cops and himself. I'm no Dr. Laura, but that's pretty strong proof he was mentally ill

huh? Everyone that shoots someone isnt mentally ill

I'm sticking with everyone who shoots their GF, then kills two cops, and then shoots themselves is mentally ill.

well you can stick by that theory. This guy was a gang banger. Id say the odds are more likely he wasnt mentally ill.

why did he shoot his GF? Why did he kill himself?

i guess he didnt wanna goto jail. I dunno why he shot his gf yet. Nobody knows.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

For me, the motive of shooters like this just isn't that interesting. School shooters and people like this are mentally ill and have access to weapons. They feel a proper outlet of their anger is to murder a bunch of people. Somehow society needs to address that combination IMO and stop worrying about what the shooter was motivated by.

There's no proof that the shooter is mentally ill, but there is proof that he was motivated by the current anti-police climate. It seems more appropriate to discuss the motivation that's certain and enunciated by the killer than to speculate about possible mental illness.

he shot his GF, then killed two cops and himself. I'm no Dr. Laura, but that's pretty strong proof he was mentally ill

No, it isn't.

What percentage of killers are deemed mentally unfit such that they can't stand trial? It's exceptionally low. Like 1% low. There are bad people out there who murder without being mentally ill.

AFAIK, being unfit for trial is a much different standard than having a mental illness. I believe you have to not know the difference between right and wrong.

So is everyone who cheered at the scene or posted their support for the killer's actions online mentally ill?

 

[TPW]

Can't blame the Tea Party, fundementalist Christians, or other "right-wing extremists" for this one, though I'm sure somehow an attempt will be made. As usual, what the left projects upon its political opponents is in fact a case study of its own profound dysfunction. PS- Bill de Blasio is commie scum of the highest order.​

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- Sept 2009: census-taker Bill Sparkman found hanged in rural Kentucky. Media speculated it was Tea Party. (He killed himself.)​

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- Feb 2010: Joe Stack flies small plane into an IRS building. Anti-tax TP rhetoric blamed. (He quoted from the Communist Manifesto.)​

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- Feb 2010: Amy Bishop shoots colleagues at University of Alabama faculty meeting. Gun-loving Tea Party suspected. (She was an Obama voter.)​

- March 2010: John Patrick Bedell shot two Pentagon security. A right-wing extremist, media asked? (A registered Democrat and 9/11 Truther.)​

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- May 2010: massive Times Square car bomb found. Bloomberg speculates it's someone upset about ACA. (Actually, plain vanilla jihadist scum.)​

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- August 2010: Amid GZM debate, Muslim cabbie stabbed in NYC. Media speculates: a RWNJ? (Actually, a Lefty art student off his meds.)​

- Sept 2010: James Lee takes hostages at Discovery Chan HQ. Media speculates: climate change denier? (An environmentalist who hates humans.)​

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- Dec 2010: Clay Duke shoots at FL school board. Mike Malloy blames Glenn Beck. (Actually, Media Matters among his fav sites.)​

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- Jan 2011: Jared Lee Loughner shoots up campaign event of Rep. Giffords. Media: TP rhetoric is to blame. (An apolitical conspiracy theorist.)​

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- July 2012: James Holmes shoots up theater in Aurora, CO. Brian Ross suggests he's a TPer on live TV. (Just another unmedicated nutter.)​

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- Aug 2012: Floyd Lee Corkins shoots up @FRCdc based on @SPLCenter's "target list." Media: [crickets]​

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- April 2013: Tsarnaev bros bomb Boston Marathon. Media suggests RWNJ commemorating "Patriot's Day." (Actually, just more jihadist scum.)​

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- Oct. 2013: Media retroactively blames right wing for JFK assassination. (Actually, LHO was a communist defector.)​

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Media's desire to pin violence on the right is so overwhelming they're actually rewriting history to do it. In 2012, I wrote: The media's habitual blaming of the political right is endemic and incurable. Media figures sincerely believe the right wing is violent, so naturally assume that violent people must be right-wing. This won’t be the last time they make that mistake.

 

[badmojo1006]

Rudy Giuliani: 2 NYC Cops Were Killed Because Obama Told Everyone To ‘Hate The Police’

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Rudy Giuliani: 2 NYC Cops Were Killed Because Obama Told Everyone To ‘Hate The Police’

Oh, OK.

 

[Slapdash]

Sounds like this guy was on the run for offing his GF and decided to take two cops with him. Needed a better headline though. Revolt against the growing police state is inevitable and the meida is predictably trying to stoke the fire.

Right, any attempt at some grand political statement is lost when the whole incident begins with shooting your girlfriend. This guy is no different than the other long list of mass shooters that we see all too much of.

Pretty pathetic how soon many posters seized on political angles. Time to take a step back people.

 

[Short Corner]

Some of you need to s t f u until you actually know w t f you are talking about.

 

[jonessed]

Sounds like this guy was on the run for offing his GF and decided to take two cops with him. Needed a better headline though. Revolt against the growing police state is inevitable and the meida is predictably trying to stoke the fire.

Right, any attempt at some grand political statement is lost when the whole incident begins with shooting your girlfriend. This guy is no different than the other long list of mass shooters that we see all too much of.

Pretty pathetic how soon many posters seized on political angles. Time to take a step back people.

 

[Slapdash]

Rudy Giuliani: 2 NYC Cops Were Killed Because Obama Told Everyone To ‘Hate The Police’

Speaking of pathetic. And people expect him to have a successful campaign

 

[rockaction]

Rudy Giuliani: 2 NYC Cops Were Killed Because Obama Told Everyone To ‘Hate The Police’

Speaking of pathetic. And people expect him to have a successful campaign

Who?

 

[The General]

Rudy Giuliani: 2 NYC Cops Were Killed Because Obama Told Everyone To ‘Hate The Police’

Whoa. Even Sharpton thinks that's a bit inflammatory.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Sounds like this guy was on the run for offing his GF and decided to take two cops with him. Needed a better headline though. Revolt against the growing police state is inevitable and the meida is predictably trying to stoke the fire.

Right, any attempt at some grand political statement is lost when the whole incident begins with shooting your girlfriend. This guy is no different than the other long list of mass shooters that we see all too much of.

Pretty pathetic how soon many posters seized on political angles. Time to take a step back people.

Oh please. Many of these national protests were organized by Left-wing organizations. They even advertise it on the signs they carry.

Then the Democrats used the Ferguson situation to try to motivate black voters to hit the polls.

Now, when the situation resulted in the murder of two police officers, we want to pretend that politics had absolutely, positively noting to do wit the situation. Laughable.

Hint: Part of the reason why the NYPD are pissed at De Blasio is that they think he jeopardized their safety for political reasons.

 

[sporthenry]

I think this is really bringing out the worst in everyone. People cheering at the scene are obviously despicable. But people blaming Obama, Holder, or de Blasio are guilty of using the same rhetoric they are supposedly condemning. Pointing the finger makes nobody look good. You really think a guy from Florida/Baltimore even heard anything from de Blasio before this? Living outside of NY, de Blasio has seemingly been a minor figure in the national dialogue that I've seen.

I think it is fairly obvious that there exists a problem and people going back to their corners and just pointing their fingers does nothing to advance the discussion.

 

[Boston]

The video here is pretty powerful stuff...the Mayor and Police having this type of relationship is very unhealthy...

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/12/21/watch-nypd-officers-turn-their-backs-on-nyc-mayor-deblasio-n1934217

 

[Balco]

How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?

I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them.

"Blood on his hands"

Blood on his hands means he has some level of responsibility for the killings. You could still have contributed to the killings without having been capable of preventing them.

The Mayor bears zero responsibility for the killings. Holy Cow, The stupid criminal bears all of the responsibility.

 

[jonessed]

I think this is really bringing out the worst in everyone. People cheering at the scene are obviously despicable. But people blaming Obama, Holder, or de Blasio are guilty of using the same rhetoric they are supposedly condemning. Pointing the finger makes nobody look good. You really think a guy from Florida/Baltimore even heard anything from de Blasio before this? Living outside of NY, de Blasio has seemingly been a minor figure in the national dialogue that I've seen.

I think it is fairly obvious that there exists a problem and people going back to their corners and just pointing their fingers does nothing to advance the discussion.

The NYPD has a very legitimate gripe with de Blasio. He put them in a bad situation.

 

[jonessed]

How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?

I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them.

"Blood on his hands"

Blood on his hands means he has some level of responsibility for the killings. You could still have contributed to the killings without having been capable of preventing them.

The Mayor bears zero responsibility for the killings. Holy Cow, The stupid criminal bears all of the responsibility.

We aren't talking about stealing lunch boxes here.

 

[Balco]

And it is dissapointing to see the pd turn their backs on the Mayor before the press conference. Respect the position.

And I think the Mayor is in way over his head.

 

[Balco]

How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?

I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them.

"Blood on his hands"

Blood on his hands means he has some level of responsibility for the killings. You could still have contributed to the killings without having been capable of preventing them.

The Mayor bears zero responsibility for the killings. Holy Cow, The stupid criminal bears all of the responsibility.

We aren't talking about stealing lunch boxes here.

Doesn't change the fact the Mayor bears zero responsibility for this.

 

[Ghost Rider]

And it is dissapointing to see the pd turn their backs on the Mayor before the press conference. Respect the position.

And I think the Mayor is in way over his head.

They showed him the same respect he has shown them.

 

[rct]

How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?

I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them.

"Blood on his hands"

Blood on his hands means he has some level of responsibility for the killings. You could still have contributed to the killings without having been capable of preventing them.

The Mayor bears zero responsibility for the killings. Holy Cow, The stupid criminal bears all of the responsibility.

We aren't talking about stealing lunch boxes here.

Doesn't change the fact the Mayor bears zero responsibility for this.

None.

 

[Tom Servo]

How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?

I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them.

"Blood on his hands"

Blood on his hands means he has some level of responsibility for the killings. You could still have contributed to the killings without having been capable of preventing them.

The Mayor bears zero responsibility for the killings. Holy Cow, The stupid criminal bears all of the responsibility.

We aren't talking about stealing lunch boxes here.

Doesn't change the fact the Mayor bears zero responsibility for this.

So he can support the protestors aaanticop rhetoric and not be held accountable?

 

[parasaurolophus]

This guy was clearly a piece of crap that was going to kill people at some point but how can anybody in their right mind believe that him heading to NY to kill New York cops is not 100% because of the Eric Garner situation and the rhetoric surrounding it?

He didnt just head out of his apartment one evening and happen to stumble upon some NYPD and in a fit of rage killed them. He freaking traveled to NY after posting he was going to kill two of them and he did it.

 

[mr roboto]

It's an indictment of some of the extreme rhetoric among the rabid protestors. It's not and indictment of the main complaints of the protests.

 

[sporthenry]

How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?

I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them.

"Blood on his hands"

Blood on his hands means he has some level of responsibility for the killings. You could still have contributed to the killings without having been capable of preventing them.

The Mayor bears zero responsibility for the killings. Holy Cow, The stupid criminal bears all of the responsibility.

We aren't talking about stealing lunch boxes here.

Doesn't change the fact the Mayor bears zero responsibility for this.

So he can support the protestors aaanticop rhetoric and not be held accountable?

So if you support protests, you are held accountable? Should we hold people accountable for Jared Lee Loughner as well?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

This guy was clearly a piece of crap that was going to kill people at some point but how can anybody in their right mind believe that him heading to NY to kill New York cops is not 100% because of the Eric Garner situation and the rhetoric surrounding it?

He didnt just head out of his apartment one evening and happen to stumble upon some NYPD and in a fit of rage killed them. He freaking traveled to NY after posting he was going to kill two of them and he did it.

This guy was was suicidal based on his social media. He was going to take people with him. He took is GF with him. Then figured why not get some attention and head up to NYC. He could have very well headed to ferguson or sydeny australia and linked himself to isis(like that guy did) for all we know. It does mean that this happened because of the eric garner situation. it happened because this guy is insane.

 

[mr roboto]

Reasonable protestors have 0 liability in this or any other action like this. Those who propagate extreme rhetoric or calls to action do bear some liability.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

So if some crazy cop kills a few people next week, are we going to blame pitaki and fox news?

 

[mr roboto]

So if some crazy cop kills a few people next week, are we going to blame pitaki and fox news?

Blame isn't 100% or 0% proposition. Sorry to ruin the either/or polemic rhythm of some of these debates.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

So if some crazy cop kills a few people next week, are we going to blame pitaki and fox news?

Blame isn't 100% or 0% proposition. Sorry to ruin the either/or polemic rhythm of some of these debates.

oh i agree. that was meant to sound ridiculous. Like all the people quickly trying to spread blame here.

 

[Balco]

How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?

I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them.

"Blood on his hands"

Blood on his hands means he has some level of responsibility for the killings. You could still have contributed to the killings without having been capable of preventing them.

The Mayor bears zero responsibility for the killings. Holy Cow, The stupid criminal bears all of the responsibility.

We aren't talking about stealing lunch boxes here.

Doesn't change the fact the Mayor bears zero responsibility for this.

So he can support the protestors aaanticop rhetoric and not be held accountable?

That is correct. He had nothing to do with the murders whatsoever.