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Coward fatally ambushes 2 NYPD, commits suicide (5 Viewers)

Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
That's a fair question, and I appreciate your approach - seriously.My answer is - no, I don't think most protesters think like that. I think most protesters are good people trying to do the right thing. Just like I think most cops are good people trying to do the right thing as well. The protests crossed the line in the Mike Brown case. They fostered the lie that Mike Brown was shot in the back, then whipped everyone into a frenzy when the Grand Jury came back with its very reasonable conclusion not to indict. Then things went WAY off the rails into criminal behavior when Brown's stepfather called for people to burn down the city. He should have been arrested immediately for that. The protests have gotten progressively out of hand, lies have gone uncorrected, and people have sat idly by while rappers have made music videos starring public defenders that are paid with taxpayer money that directly call pon people to murder cops.

I'm outraged that people have become so callous that when a tragedy like this happens, they come into message boards to troll and have a little fun. I'm outraged that the good people in here sit idly by and don't say a word. Sick of people making excuses for the people who bear responsibility for this. Nobody in here is calling out the rappers who made the video. More people have defended Al Sharpton in here than have criticized him. The Left has lost all sense of reason on this issue.

And don't think I'm some right wing fanatic either. I'm equally passionate about the crap going on with the Right. In many ways it is the Right that started this horrible trend in this country of demonizing political opponents to the point where it borders on criminal behavior. Pro-life lunatics targeting abortion doctors - publishing their home address. The pro gun lobby, and Sara Palin supporters, making tee shirts that show their political opponents in cross-hairs. How can direct threats like this be tolerated in a civilized society? I guess the answer is, we are no longer a civilized society. And Urbanhack - there's your answer to why I am angry.

I started off in this thread saying I predicted this would happen weeks ago. This was misunderstood as me bragging or being a Nostradamus??? No, it was simple resignation that my warnings over the last few months gave way to my worst fears. We laid out these poor cops as a human sacrifice to appease people who were legitimately wronged for many years. Sharpton knew what he was doing was over the line. The media knew it too. But the did it anyway. For personal gain and for ratings. If you yell fire in a crowded movie theatre you are responsible for the ensuing panic. If you sit idly by while people call for cops heads, and don't do anything to stop it, you are complicit when the cops are eventually murdered. I'm sick of it. Time to call out idiots like Farakhan and Uncle Murda. Time to put these people in jail where they belong. It's not free speech. It's criminal behavior. And if you don think that it sways public opinion then you are not paying attention. Where do you think yesterday's killer got the phrase "two of them for everyone one of ours"?

 
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Hey Pimp, was this dubbed too? http://hw-mobile.worldstarhiphop.com/u/vid/2014/12/7f79b7f_mobile.mp4

The rap video Hands Up! featuring rappers Maino and Uncle Murda has gone viral, but its the videos message that has many people up in arms. The video basically encourages people to kill police officers in retribution to what happened to Michael Brown and Eric Garner. The video portrays the recurring image of an actor dressed as a police officer with two guns pointed at his head, and some of the lyrics even encourage that type of behavior.

For Mike Brown and Sean Bell, a cop gotta be killed, the song says.

Rap lyrics are oftentimes anti-law enforcement, but many are enraged by the video actually encouraging people to go about shooting an officer.
So this is now the 3rd or 4th time I have posted in this thread about this video. Guess how many responses? How about ZERO.
To be fair, after your earlier meltdown a lot of people put you on ignore.
Fair enough. What's your excuse though? Clearly I'm not on your ignore list. Where's your outrage in this thread, with the exception of inconsequential inaccuracies in some of my statements?
 
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The knuckledraggers these threads draw out are pretty entertaining.
Remember when the NYPD were national heroes after the attacks on NYC and DC in 2001?

They still are, right?
How did they get to DC? Don't they have their own police dept and firefighters?
DC was attacked on 9/11?
Yeah, it was AJ. Pentagon. Right across from the MCI building (not Center, I know that). WTF????

 
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It's gotten to the point that the wife of a murdered police officer is hoping for coexistence with animals. That's where we are.

God help us all.
What do you mean, Billy? I say that without any sort of anger, I just think I may be missing part of the story that perhaps you could link to.
Ramos family on Sunday asked for a peaceful co-existence and hopes that the community can move forward from the shooting.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/21/gunman-who-shot-and-killed-2-nypd-officers-had-troubled-past-mother-says/

Amazing that it's come to this point.

 
Why do I have to focus my outrage in this thread? One thing I do know, time in this forum doesn't lead to anything but wasted time.

 
It's gotten to the point that the wife of a murdered police officer is hoping for coexistence with animals. That's where we are.

God help us all.
What do you mean, Billy? I say that without any sort of anger, I just think I may be missing part of the story that perhaps you could link to.
Ramos family on Sunday asked for a peaceful co-existence and hopes that the community can move forward from the shooting.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/21/gunman-who-shot-and-killed-2-nypd-officers-had-troubled-past-mother-says/

Amazing that it's come to this point.
Gotcha. Co-existence with what? Pure evil? That's weird. The story is disturbing. I don't know what else to say.

 
Why do I have to focus my outrage in this thread? One thing I do know, time in this forum doesn't lead to anything but wasted time.
You're probably right, but I still cling to the childish belief that the world is what you make it. And like Martin Luther King said, "injustice anywhere is threat to justice everywhere".
 
It's gotten to the point that the wife of a murdered police officer is hoping for coexistence with animals. That's where we are.

God help us all.
What do you mean, Billy? I say that without any sort of anger, I just think I may be missing part of the story that perhaps you could link to.
Ramos family on Sunday asked for a peaceful co-existence and hopes that the community can move forward from the shooting.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/21/gunman-who-shot-and-killed-2-nypd-officers-had-troubled-past-mother-says/Amazing that it's come to this point.
Interesting article with different news than reported before:-not a gang member

-over 15 arrests in multiple states

-born in Brooklyn, still spent a lot of time there

- mom believed he was mentally ill since childhood

- tried to hang himself last month

 
It's gotten to the point that the wife of a murdered police officer is hoping for coexistence with animals. That's where we are.

God help us all.
What do you mean, Billy? I say that without any sort of anger, I just think I may be missing part of the story that perhaps you could link to.
Ramos family on Sunday asked for a peaceful co-existence and hopes that the community can move forward from the shooting.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/21/gunman-who-shot-and-killed-2-nypd-officers-had-troubled-past-mother-says/Amazing that it's come to this point.
- tried to hang himself last month
Unfortunately this worthless sack of #### isn't good at anything or he wouldve succeeded at this.

 
The knuckledraggers these threads draw out are pretty entertaining.
Remember when the NYPD were national heroes after the attacks on NYC and DC in 2001?

They still are, right?
How did they get to DC? Don't they have their own police dept and firefighters?
DC was attacked on 9/11?
Oof
That's when you start wondering. This guy claims he works in politics and lives in DC and dates political girls.

That's astounding ignorance.

 
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Jesus Christ.

On 9/11, DC got attacked In An Aeroplane Over The Sea.

I hope people get that.

 
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The knuckledraggers these threads draw out are pretty entertaining.
Remember when the NYPD were national heroes after the attacks on NYC and DC in 2001?

They still are, right?
How did they get to DC? Don't they have their own police dept and firefighters?
DC was attacked on 9/11?
Oof
That's when you start wondering. This guy claims he works in politics and lives in DC and dates political girls.

That's astounding ignorance.
Was it over when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor?
 
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Why do I have to focus my outrage in this thread? One thing I do know, time in this forum doesn't lead to anything but wasted time.
You're probably right, but I still cling to the childish belief that the world is what you make it. And like Martin Luther King said, "injustice anywhere is threat to justice everywhere".
If you're going to fix things, probably need to start from the top. Scorched earth type rebuild.

 
The knuckledraggers these threads draw out are pretty entertaining.
Remember when the NYPD were national heroes after the attacks on NYC and DC in 2001?

They still are, right?
How did they get to DC? Don't they have their own police dept and firefighters?
DC was attacked on 9/11?
Oof
That's when you start wondering. This guy claims he works in politics and lives in DC and dates political girls.

That's astounding ignorance.
I think he's going to say the Pentagon is in Virginia, which it is. Pretty terrible shtick but not much different than most of the other stuff in here.

 
The knuckledraggers these threads draw out are pretty entertaining.
Remember when the NYPD were national heroes after the attacks on NYC and DC in 2001?

They still are, right?
How did they get to DC? Don't they have their own police dept and firefighters?
DC was attacked on 9/11?
Oof
That's when you start wondering. This guy claims he works in politics and lives in DC and dates political girls.

That's astounding ignorance.
I think he's going to say the Pentagon is in Virginia, which it is. Pretty terrible shtick but not much different than most of the other stuff in here.
Yeah, I deleted my own acknowledgement of that. That's bad shtick.

 
It's gotten to the point that the wife of a murdered police officer is hoping for coexistence with animals. That's where we are.

God help us all.
What do you mean, Billy? I say that without any sort of anger, I just think I may be missing part of the story that perhaps you could link to.
Ramos family on Sunday asked for a peaceful co-existence and hopes that the community can move forward from the shooting.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/21/gunman-who-shot-and-killed-2-nypd-officers-had-troubled-past-mother-says/

Amazing that it's come to this point.
Gotcha. Co-existence with what? Pure evil? That's weird. The story is disturbing. I don't know what else to say.
Co-existence with animals, obviously.

The underlying point being that anyone who protests police brutality is an animal. Or that all black people are animals. Not sure which direction he's taking there.

 
The knuckledraggers these threads draw out are pretty entertaining.
Remember when the NYPD were national heroes after the attacks on NYC and DC in 2001?

They still are, right?
How did they get to DC? Don't they have their own police dept and firefighters?
DC was attacked on 9/11?
Oof
That's when you start wondering. This guy claims he works in politics and lives in DC and dates political girls.

That's astounding ignorance.
I think he's going to say the Pentagon is in Virginia, which it is. Pretty terrible shtick but not much different than most of the other stuff in here.
Yeah, I deleted my own acknowledgement of that. That's bad shtick.
Was just applying credit where it's due. It was primarily Arlington County, Alexandria, and Fairfax County responders.

 
It's gotten to the point that the wife of a murdered police officer is hoping for coexistence with animals. That's where we are.

God help us all.
What do you mean, Billy? I say that without any sort of anger, I just think I may be missing part of the story that perhaps you could link to.
Ramos family on Sunday asked for a peaceful co-existence and hopes that the community can move forward from the shooting.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/21/gunman-who-shot-and-killed-2-nypd-officers-had-troubled-past-mother-says/Amazing that it's come to this point.
Gotcha. Co-existence with what? Pure evil? That's weird. The story is disturbing. I don't know what else to say.
Co-existence with animals, obviously.

The underlying point being that anyone who protests police brutality is an animal. Or that all black people are animals. Not sure which direction he's taking there.
Oh is that what I meant? Ignorant, disrespectful people; i.e. criminals, COP KILLERS = animals.

Doesn't matter the color, I don't discriminate.

.

What other underlying points am I making? Or is that just your paper argument in this growing crisis?

.

 
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The knuckledraggers these threads draw out are pretty entertaining.
Remember when the NYPD were national heroes after the attacks on NYC and DC in 2001?

They still are, right?
How did they get to DC? Don't they have their own police dept and firefighters?
DC was attacked on 9/11?
Oof
That's when you start wondering. This guy claims he works in politics and lives in DC and dates political girls.

That's astounding ignorance.
I think he's going to say the Pentagon is in Virginia, which it is. Pretty terrible shtick but not much different than most of the other stuff in here.
Yeah, I deleted my own acknowledgement of that. That's bad shtick.
Was just applying credit where it's due. It was primarily Arlington County, Alexandria, and Fairfax County responders.
good one

 
It's gotten to the point that the wife of a murdered police officer is hoping for coexistence with animals. That's where we are.

God help us all.
What do you mean, Billy? I say that without any sort of anger, I just think I may be missing part of the story that perhaps you could link to.
Ramos family on Sunday asked for a peaceful co-existence and hopes that the community can move forward from the shooting.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/21/gunman-who-shot-and-killed-2-nypd-officers-had-troubled-past-mother-says/Amazing that it's come to this point.
Gotcha. Co-existence with what? Pure evil? That's weird. The story is disturbing. I don't know what else to say.
Co-existence with animals, obviously.

The underlying point being that anyone who protests police brutality is an animal. Or that all black people are animals. Not sure which direction he's taking there.
Oh is that what I meant?Ignorant, disrespectful people; i.e. criminals, COP KILLERS = animals.

Doesn't matter the color, I don't discriminate.

.

What other underlying points am I making? Or is that just your paper argument in this growing crisis?
The fact that you felt the need to add "animals" to someone else's quote to further your own agenda is disrespectful at best, disturbing at worst.

 
It's gotten to the point that the wife of a murdered police officer is hoping for coexistence with animals. That's where we are.

God help us all.
What do you mean, Billy? I say that without any sort of anger, I just think I may be missing part of the story that perhaps you could link to.
Ramos family on Sunday asked for a peaceful co-existence and hopes that the community can move forward from the shooting.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/21/gunman-who-shot-and-killed-2-nypd-officers-had-troubled-past-mother-says/Amazing that it's come to this point.
Gotcha. Co-existence with what? Pure evil? That's weird. The story is disturbing. I don't know what else to say.
Co-existence with animals, obviously.

The underlying point being that anyone who protests police brutality is an animal. Or that all black people are animals. Not sure which direction he's taking there.
Oh is that what I meant?Ignorant, disrespectful people; i.e. criminals, COP KILLERS = animals.

Doesn't matter the color, I don't discriminate.

.

What other underlying points am I making? Or is that just your paper argument in this growing crisis?
The fact that you felt the need to add "animals" to someone else's quote to further your own agenda is disrespectful at best, disturbing at worst.
:lmao: Who am I disrespecting, exactly? The non-human who executed two police officers?? Or you?! Even funnier if the latter is true.
 
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Hey, if you're going to trade on the heroics of others, let's at least get who they are correct.
What point do you think you're winning here and why are we even talking about DC?http://www.dcfd.com/pentagon9.11.01.q.jpg
Ask the guy who brought it up and yourself for keeping it going.
No, you brought it up. You made it the point. My friend worked at the MCI building right across from the Pentagon that day.

Don't duck this. You wanted to get into a niggling point, and you've got it. That's exactly what you were going for by asking SID "DC?" Well, yes, DC.

 
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
That's a fair question, and I appreciate your approach - seriously.My answer is - no, I don't think most protesters think like that. I think most protesters are good people trying to do the right thing. Just like I think most cops are good people trying to do the right thing as well. The protests crossed the line in the Mike Brown case. They fostered the lie that Mike Brown was shot in the back, then whipped everyone into a frenzy when the Grand Jury came back with its very reasonable conclusion not to indict. Then things went WAY off the rails into criminal behavior when Brown's stepfather called for people to burn down the city. He should have been arrested immediately for that. The protests have gotten progressively out of hand, lies have gone uncorrected, and people have sat idly by while rappers have made music videos starring public defenders that are paid with taxpayer money that directly call pon people to murder cops.

I'm outraged that people have become so callous that when a tragedy like this happens, they come into message boards to troll and have a little fun. I'm outraged that the good people in here sit idly by and don't say a word. Sick of people making excuses for the people who bear responsibility for this. Nobody in here is calling out the rappers who made the video. More people have defended Al Sharpton in here than have criticized him. The Left has lost all sense of reason on this issue.

And don't think I'm some right wing fanatic either. I'm equally passionate about the crap going on with the Right. In many ways it is the Right that started this horrible trend in this country of demonizing political opponents to the point where it borders on criminal behavior. Pro-life lunatics targeting abortion doctors - publishing their home address. The pro gun lobby, and Sara Palin supporters, making tee shirts that show their political opponents in cross-hairs. How can direct threats like this be tolerated in a civilized society? I guess the answer is, we are no longer a civilized society. And Urbanhack - there's your answer to why I am angry.

I started off in this thread saying I predicted this would happen weeks ago. This was misunderstood as me bragging or being a Nostradamus??? No, it was simple resignation that my warnings over the last few months gave way to my worst fears. We laid out these poor cops as a human sacrifice to appease people who were legitimately wronged for many years. Sharpton knew what he was doing was over the line. The media knew it too. But the did it anyway. For personal gain and for ratings. If you yell fire in a crowded movie theatre you are responsible for the ensuing panic. If you sit idly by while people call for cops heads, and don't do anything to stop it, you are complicit when the cops are eventually murdered. I'm sick of it. Time to call out idiots like Farakhan and Uncle Murda. Time to put these people in jail where they belong. It's not free speech. It's criminal behavior. And if you don think that it sways public opinion then you are not paying attention. Where do you think yesterday's killer got the phrase "two of them for everyone one of ours"?
You seem upset.

 
Hey, if you're going to trade on the heroics of others, let's at least get who they are correct.
What point do you think you're winning here and why are we even talking about DC?http://www.dcfd.com/pentagon9.11.01.q.jpg
Ask the guy who brought it up and yourself for keeping it going.
So even you don't know. Got it. At least we can move on now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj1OsTLyBgg

 
How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?
I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them.
"Blood on his hands"
Blood on his hands means he has some level of responsibility for the killings. You could still have contributed to the killings without having been capable of preventing them.
The Mayor bears zero responsibility for the killings. Holy Cow, The stupid criminal bears all of the responsibility.
We aren't talking about stealing lunch boxes here.
Doesn't change the fact the Mayor bears zero responsibility for this.
So he can support the protestors aaanticop rhetoric and not be held accountable?
So by that logic. If the President was shot, Republicans would be held accountable? Since they have done nothing but disrespect him and the position of the President of the United States?

I don't think they should, just like I don't think the Mayor or Obama is responsible for killing these cops. But what is funny how everyone is spinning to at this point its President Obama's fault just like with the rising gas prices.
The Mayor had an obligation to provide transparency into the GJ decision failed to do so. When you don't provide transparency into matters such as this, you are likely to fan the flames of anger.

Worst Mayor ever.

 
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It's gotten to the point that the wife of a murdered police officer is hoping for coexistence with animals. That's where we are.

God help us all.
What do you mean, Billy? I say that without any sort of anger, I just think I may be missing part of the story that perhaps you could link to.
Ramos family on Sunday asked for a peaceful co-existence and hopes that the community can move forward from the shooting.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/21/gunman-who-shot-and-killed-2-nypd-officers-had-troubled-past-mother-says/Amazing that it's come to this point.
Gotcha. Co-existence with what? Pure evil? That's weird. The story is disturbing. I don't know what else to say.
Co-existence with animals, obviously.

The underlying point being that anyone who protests police brutality is an animal. Or that all black people are animals. Not sure which direction he's taking there.
Oh is that what I meant?Ignorant, disrespectful people; i.e. criminals, COP KILLERS = animals.

Doesn't matter the color, I don't discriminate.

.

What other underlying points am I making? Or is that just your paper argument in this growing crisis?
The fact that you felt the need to add "animals" to someone else's quote to further your own agenda is disrespectful at best, disturbing at worst.
:lmao: Who am I disrespecting, exactly? The non-human who executed two police officers?? Or you?! Even funnier if the latter is true.
You're disrespecting the people who said "We forgive him" and "...peaceful coexistence." You're using a family's tragedy to further your own agenda.

 
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Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
That's a fair question, and I appreciate your approach - seriously.My answer is - no, I don't think most protesters think like that. I think most protesters are good people trying to do the right thing. Just like I think most cops are good people trying to do the right thing as well. The protests crossed the line in the Mike Brown case. They fostered the lie that Mike Brown was shot in the back, then whipped everyone into a frenzy when the Grand Jury came back with its very reasonable conclusion not to indict. Then things went WAY off the rails into criminal behavior when Brown's stepfather called for people to burn down the city. He should have been arrested immediately for that. The protests have gotten progressively out of hand, lies have gone uncorrected, and people have sat idly by while rappers have made music videos starring public defenders that are paid with taxpayer money that directly call pon people to murder cops.

I'm outraged that people have become so callous that when a tragedy like this happens, they come into message boards to troll and have a little fun. I'm outraged that the good people in here sit idly by and don't say a word. Sick of people making excuses for the people who bear responsibility for this. Nobody in here is calling out the rappers who made the video. More people have defended Al Sharpton in here than have criticized him. The Left has lost all sense of reason on this issue.

And don't think I'm some right wing fanatic either. I'm equally passionate about the crap going on with the Right. In many ways it is the Right that started this horrible trend in this country of demonizing political opponents to the point where it borders on criminal behavior. Pro-life lunatics targeting abortion doctors - publishing their home address. The pro gun lobby, and Sara Palin supporters, making tee shirts that show their political opponents in cross-hairs. How can direct threats like this be tolerated in a civilized society? I guess the answer is, we are no longer a civilized society. And Urbanhack - there's your answer to why I am angry.

I started off in this thread saying I predicted this would happen weeks ago. This was misunderstood as me bragging or being a Nostradamus??? No, it was simple resignation that my warnings over the last few months gave way to my worst fears. We laid out these poor cops as a human sacrifice to appease people who were legitimately wronged for many years. Sharpton knew what he was doing was over the line. The media knew it too. But the did it anyway. For personal gain and for ratings. If you yell fire in a crowded movie theatre you are responsible for the ensuing panic. If you sit idly by while people call for cops heads, and don't do anything to stop it, you are complicit when the cops are eventually murdered. I'm sick of it. Time to call out idiots like Farakhan and Uncle Murda. Time to put these people in jail where they belong. It's not free speech. It's criminal behavior. And if you don think that it sways public opinion then you are not paying attention. Where do you think yesterday's killer got the phrase "two of them for everyone one of ours"?
What are you going to have them arrested for?

 
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
That's a fair question, and I appreciate your approach - seriously.My answer is - no, I don't think most protesters think like that. I think most protesters are good people trying to do the right thing. Just like I think most cops are good people trying to do the right thing as well. The protests crossed the line in the Mike Brown case. They fostered the lie that Mike Brown was shot in the back, then whipped everyone into a frenzy when the Grand Jury came back with its very reasonable conclusion not to indict. Then things went WAY off the rails into criminal behavior when Brown's stepfather called for people to burn down the city. He should have been arrested immediately for that. The protests have gotten progressively out of hand, lies have gone uncorrected, and people have sat idly by while rappers have made music videos starring public defenders that are paid with taxpayer money that directly call pon people to murder cops.

I'm outraged that people have become so callous that when a tragedy like this happens, they come into message boards to troll and have a little fun. I'm outraged that the good people in here sit idly by and don't say a word. Sick of people making excuses for the people who bear responsibility for this. Nobody in here is calling out the rappers who made the video. More people have defended Al Sharpton in here than have criticized him. The Left has lost all sense of reason on this issue.

And don't think I'm some right wing fanatic either. I'm equally passionate about the crap going on with the Right. In many ways it is the Right that started this horrible trend in this country of demonizing political opponents to the point where it borders on criminal behavior. Pro-life lunatics targeting abortion doctors - publishing their home address. The pro gun lobby, and Sara Palin supporters, making tee shirts that show their political opponents in cross-hairs. How can direct threats like this be tolerated in a civilized society? I guess the answer is, we are no longer a civilized society. And Urbanhack - there's your answer to why I am angry.

I started off in this thread saying I predicted this would happen weeks ago. This was misunderstood as me bragging or being a Nostradamus??? No, it was simple resignation that my warnings over the last few months gave way to my worst fears. We laid out these poor cops as a human sacrifice to appease people who were legitimately wronged for many years. Sharpton knew what he was doing was over the line. The media knew it too. But the did it anyway. For personal gain and for ratings. If you yell fire in a crowded movie theatre you are responsible for the ensuing panic. If you sit idly by while people call for cops heads, and don't do anything to stop it, you are complicit when the cops are eventually murdered. I'm sick of it. Time to call out idiots like Farakhan and Uncle Murda. Time to put these people in jail where they belong. It's not free speech. It's criminal behavior. And if you don think that it sways public opinion then you are not paying attention. Where do you think yesterday's killer got the phrase "two of them for everyone one of ours"?
What are you going to have them arrested for?
Inciting a riot? Inciting violence? I'm sure there's a criminal statute that could be invoked. You honestly think it's ok to publicly call for someone's murder? Really?
 
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
That's a fair question, and I appreciate your approach - seriously.My answer is - no, I don't think most protesters think like that. I think most protesters are good people trying to do the right thing. Just like I think most cops are good people trying to do the right thing as well. The protests crossed the line in the Mike Brown case. They fostered the lie that Mike Brown was shot in the back, then whipped everyone into a frenzy when the Grand Jury came back with its very reasonable conclusion not to indict. Then things went WAY off the rails into criminal behavior when Brown's stepfather called for people to burn down the city. He should have been arrested immediately for that. The protests have gotten progressively out of hand, lies have gone uncorrected, and people have sat idly by while rappers have made music videos starring public defenders that are paid with taxpayer money that directly call pon people to murder cops.

I'm outraged that people have become so callous that when a tragedy like this happens, they come into message boards to troll and have a little fun. I'm outraged that the good people in here sit idly by and don't say a word. Sick of people making excuses for the people who bear responsibility for this. Nobody in here is calling out the rappers who made the video. More people have defended Al Sharpton in here than have criticized him. The Left has lost all sense of reason on this issue.

And don't think I'm some right wing fanatic either. I'm equally passionate about the crap going on with the Right. In many ways it is the Right that started this horrible trend in this country of demonizing political opponents to the point where it borders on criminal behavior. Pro-life lunatics targeting abortion doctors - publishing their home address. The pro gun lobby, and Sara Palin supporters, making tee shirts that show their political opponents in cross-hairs. How can direct threats like this be tolerated in a civilized society? I guess the answer is, we are no longer a civilized society. And Urbanhack - there's your answer to why I am angry.

I started off in this thread saying I predicted this would happen weeks ago. This was misunderstood as me bragging or being a Nostradamus??? No, it was simple resignation that my warnings over the last few months gave way to my worst fears. We laid out these poor cops as a human sacrifice to appease people who were legitimately wronged for many years. Sharpton knew what he was doing was over the line. The media knew it too. But the did it anyway. For personal gain and for ratings. If you yell fire in a crowded movie theatre you are responsible for the ensuing panic. If you sit idly by while people call for cops heads, and don't do anything to stop it, you are complicit when the cops are eventually murdered. I'm sick of it. Time to call out idiots like Farakhan and Uncle Murda. Time to put these people in jail where they belong. It's not free speech. It's criminal behavior. And if you don think that it sways public opinion then you are not paying attention. Where do you think yesterday's killer got the phrase "two of them for everyone one of ours"?
What are you going to have them arrested for?
Inciting a riot? Inciting violence? I'm sure there's a criminal statute that could be invoked. You honestly think it's ok to publicly call for someone's murder? Really?
your reaching here. very few involved wanted violence.

 
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
That's a fair question, and I appreciate your approach - seriously.My answer is - no, I don't think most protesters think like that. I think most protesters are good people trying to do the right thing. Just like I think most cops are good people trying to do the right thing as well. The protests crossed the line in the Mike Brown case. They fostered the lie that Mike Brown was shot in the back, then whipped everyone into a frenzy when the Grand Jury came back with its very reasonable conclusion not to indict. Then things went WAY off the rails into criminal behavior when Brown's stepfather called for people to burn down the city. He should have been arrested immediately for that. The protests have gotten progressively out of hand, lies have gone uncorrected, and people have sat idly by while rappers have made music videos starring public defenders that are paid with taxpayer money that directly call pon people to murder cops.

I'm outraged that people have become so callous that when a tragedy like this happens, they come into message boards to troll and have a little fun. I'm outraged that the good people in here sit idly by and don't say a word. Sick of people making excuses for the people who bear responsibility for this. Nobody in here is calling out the rappers who made the video. More people have defended Al Sharpton in here than have criticized him. The Left has lost all sense of reason on this issue.

And don't think I'm some right wing fanatic either. I'm equally passionate about the crap going on with the Right. In many ways it is the Right that started this horrible trend in this country of demonizing political opponents to the point where it borders on criminal behavior. Pro-life lunatics targeting abortion doctors - publishing their home address. The pro gun lobby, and Sara Palin supporters, making tee shirts that show their political opponents in cross-hairs. How can direct threats like this be tolerated in a civilized society? I guess the answer is, we are no longer a civilized society. And Urbanhack - there's your answer to why I am angry.

I started off in this thread saying I predicted this would happen weeks ago. This was misunderstood as me bragging or being a Nostradamus??? No, it was simple resignation that my warnings over the last few months gave way to my worst fears. We laid out these poor cops as a human sacrifice to appease people who were legitimately wronged for many years. Sharpton knew what he was doing was over the line. The media knew it too. But the did it anyway. For personal gain and for ratings. If you yell fire in a crowded movie theatre you are responsible for the ensuing panic. If you sit idly by while people call for cops heads, and don't do anything to stop it, you are complicit when the cops are eventually murdered. I'm sick of it. Time to call out idiots like Farakhan and Uncle Murda. Time to put these people in jail where they belong. It's not free speech. It's criminal behavior. And if you don think that it sways public opinion then you are not paying attention. Where do you think yesterday's killer got the phrase "two of them for everyone one of ours"?
What are you going to have them arrested for?
Inciting a riot? Inciting violence? I'm sure there's a criminal statute that could be invoked. You honestly think it's ok to publicly call for someone's murder? Really?
your reaching here. very few involved wanted violence.
I'm specifically talking about Louis Farakhan and Uncle Murda. Do you not think either of these two should face criminal charges?
 
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
That's a fair question, and I appreciate your approach - seriously.My answer is - no, I don't think most protesters think like that. I think most protesters are good people trying to do the right thing. Just like I think most cops are good people trying to do the right thing as well. The protests crossed the line in the Mike Brown case. They fostered the lie that Mike Brown was shot in the back, then whipped everyone into a frenzy when the Grand Jury came back with its very reasonable conclusion not to indict. Then things went WAY off the rails into criminal behavior when Brown's stepfather called for people to burn down the city. He should have been arrested immediately for that. The protests have gotten progressively out of hand, lies have gone uncorrected, and people have sat idly by while rappers have made music videos starring public defenders that are paid with taxpayer money that directly call pon people to murder cops.

I'm outraged that people have become so callous that when a tragedy like this happens, they come into message boards to troll and have a little fun. I'm outraged that the good people in here sit idly by and don't say a word. Sick of people making excuses for the people who bear responsibility for this. Nobody in here is calling out the rappers who made the video. More people have defended Al Sharpton in here than have criticized him. The Left has lost all sense of reason on this issue.

And don't think I'm some right wing fanatic either. I'm equally passionate about the crap going on with the Right. In many ways it is the Right that started this horrible trend in this country of demonizing political opponents to the point where it borders on criminal behavior. Pro-life lunatics targeting abortion doctors - publishing their home address. The pro gun lobby, and Sara Palin supporters, making tee shirts that show their political opponents in cross-hairs. How can direct threats like this be tolerated in a civilized society? I guess the answer is, we are no longer a civilized society. And Urbanhack - there's your answer to why I am angry.

I started off in this thread saying I predicted this would happen weeks ago. This was misunderstood as me bragging or being a Nostradamus??? No, it was simple resignation that my warnings over the last few months gave way to my worst fears. We laid out these poor cops as a human sacrifice to appease people who were legitimately wronged for many years. Sharpton knew what he was doing was over the line. The media knew it too. But the did it anyway. For personal gain and for ratings. If you yell fire in a crowded movie theatre you are responsible for the ensuing panic. If you sit idly by while people call for cops heads, and don't do anything to stop it, you are complicit when the cops are eventually murdered. I'm sick of it. Time to call out idiots like Farakhan and Uncle Murda. Time to put these people in jail where they belong. It's not free speech. It's criminal behavior. And if you don think that it sways public opinion then you are not paying attention. Where do you think yesterday's killer got the phrase "two of them for everyone one of ours"?
What are you going to have them arrested for?
Inciting a riot? Inciting violence? I'm sure there's a criminal statute that could be invoked. You honestly think it's ok to publicly call for someone's murder? Really?
your reaching here. very few involved wanted violence.
I'm specifically talking about Louis Farakhan and Uncle Murda. Do you not think either of these two should face criminal charges?
Im not familiar with what farakhan said. Uncle murda, while an idiot made a song. no different from making a movie really. I think its in terrible taste. But sony made a movie about assassinating the leader of a country :shrug:

 
Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.
do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video? :lmao:
That's a fair question, and I appreciate your approach - seriously.My answer is - no, I don't think most protesters think like that. I think most protesters are good people trying to do the right thing. Just like I think most cops are good people trying to do the right thing as well. The protests crossed the line in the Mike Brown case. They fostered the lie that Mike Brown was shot in the back, then whipped everyone into a frenzy when the Grand Jury came back with its very reasonable conclusion not to indict. Then things went WAY off the rails into criminal behavior when Brown's stepfather called for people to burn down the city. He should have been arrested immediately for that. The protests have gotten progressively out of hand, lies have gone uncorrected, and people have sat idly by while rappers have made music videos starring public defenders that are paid with taxpayer money that directly call pon people to murder cops.

I'm outraged that people have become so callous that when a tragedy like this happens, they come into message boards to troll and have a little fun. I'm outraged that the good people in here sit idly by and don't say a word. Sick of people making excuses for the people who bear responsibility for this. Nobody in here is calling out the rappers who made the video. More people have defended Al Sharpton in here than have criticized him. The Left has lost all sense of reason on this issue.

And don't think I'm some right wing fanatic either. I'm equally passionate about the crap going on with the Right. In many ways it is the Right that started this horrible trend in this country of demonizing political opponents to the point where it borders on criminal behavior. Pro-life lunatics targeting abortion doctors - publishing their home address. The pro gun lobby, and Sara Palin supporters, making tee shirts that show their political opponents in cross-hairs. How can direct threats like this be tolerated in a civilized society? I guess the answer is, we are no longer a civilized society. And Urbanhack - there's your answer to why I am angry.

I started off in this thread saying I predicted this would happen weeks ago. This was misunderstood as me bragging or being a Nostradamus??? No, it was simple resignation that my warnings over the last few months gave way to my worst fears. We laid out these poor cops as a human sacrifice to appease people who were legitimately wronged for many years. Sharpton knew what he was doing was over the line. The media knew it too. But the did it anyway. For personal gain and for ratings. If you yell fire in a crowded movie theatre you are responsible for the ensuing panic. If you sit idly by while people call for cops heads, and don't do anything to stop it, you are complicit when the cops are eventually murdered. I'm sick of it. Time to call out idiots like Farakhan and Uncle Murda. Time to put these people in jail where they belong. It's not free speech. It's criminal behavior. And if you don think that it sways public opinion then you are not paying attention. Where do you think yesterday's killer got the phrase "two of them for everyone one of ours"?
What are you going to have them arrested for?
Inciting a riot? Inciting violence? I'm sure there's a criminal statute that could be invoked. You honestly think it's ok to publicly call for someone's murder? Really?
your reaching here. very few involved wanted violence.
I'm specifically talking about Louis Farakhan and Uncle Murda. Do you not think either of these two should face criminal charges?
Im not familiar with what farakhan said. Uncle murda, while an idiot made a song. no different from making a movie really. I think its in terrible taste. But sony made a movie about assassinating the leader of a country :shrug:
So you think it's ok to make a video showing a gun to Al Sharpton's head and the first words of the song are, "Because two cops got killed, L Sharpton's gotta die."? Would response be refined to saying that it's in "terrible taste"?
 
So you think it's ok to make a video showing a gun to Al Sharpton's head and the first words of the song are, "Because two cops got killed, L Sharpton's gotta die."? Would response be refined to saying that it's in "terrible taste"?
I could be wrong but didn't you indicate that you were done with this thread after reporting someone for doing nothing wrong earlier today and realizing you were too invested in this story? Can you confirm. TIA.

 
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So if this shooting didn't happen, would these people still be guilty of something? Just trying to see where the line is.
Absolutely. Free speech has limitations imposed by law. Many states have statutes prohibiting fighting words. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded movie theatre. There are statutes against hate speech. You can't threaten someone's life.Amazing how uncivilized this country has become. People don't even know the boundaries anymore.

 
Remember when the left pinned the gabbie Gifford shooting on Sarah Palin because of some obscure marketing piece showing giffords district with a target over it?

 
So you think it's ok to make a video showing a gun to Al Sharpton's head and the first words of the song are, "Because two cops got killed, L Sharpton's gotta die."? Would response be refined to saying that it's in "terrible taste"?
I could be wrong but didn't you indicate that you were done with this thread after reporting someone for doing nothing wrong earlier today and realizing you were too invested in this story? Can you confirm. TIA.
Hi Strike. Thanks for checking in. Appreciate your contribution to such an important topic.So i'm going to do a little intellectual maneuver here called the Henry Ford here. See if you can follow along.... You are right in your statement - at least the "I could be wrong" part. You see, technically I never said I was done with the thread. And contrary to those horrible rumors you heard from Malloy and others, I also never reported Sniz for what I misread earlier. I retracted my statement, apologized profusely to poor Sniz, and spent some quality time with the kitty cat decompressing in front of a roaring fire while enjoying a wonderful football game with the family. I won my all important Toilet Bowl crown today, I'm feeling revitalized and refreshed, and I'm ready to take on the world's problems again while a lousy Sunday night game plays in the background.

Not sure what TIA is. Is that like T&A? If so the answer is YES!

 

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