Coward fatally ambushes 2 NYPD, commits suicide (1 Viewer)

[jonessed]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

Those cops are jackasses.

 

[tdoss]

Seems like the one getting out of the van could've said, "Take that nonsense somewhere else" and diffused the situation.

But instead joined in on the pack mentality...but hard to fault them right now...tensions are too high to ever sneak up on a NY cop.

 

[jonessed]

Seems like the one getting out of the van could've said, "Take that nonsense somewhere else" and diffused the situation.

But instead joined in on the pack mentality...but hard to fault them right now...tensions are too high to ever sneak up on a NY cop.

It's actually pretty easy to fault them. There is no excuse for ganging up on someone like that and pushing him on the ground. Bunch of ####### bullies.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Baltimore News Crew Fired after "Let's Kill a Cop" Story

December 30, 2014

Back on December 22nd, FTVLive told you about Sinclair owned WBBF's story that was misleadingly edited to make it sound like protesters were calling on people to “kill a cop.”

“At this rally in Washington, D.C. participants chanted, ‘We won’t stop, we can’t stop, so kill a cop,’” WBFF’s Melinda Roeder said during her report.

It was pointed out that wasn't what the protestors were saying and the clip was wildly taken out of context.

The station apologized for the story, but now sources tell FTVLive that firings have happened at the station as fallout from the story.

Sources tell FTVLive that both the Reporter and the Photographer that did the story have been let go.

Insiders say that the story idea came directly from News Director Mike Tomko. "It was found by him, assigned by him and ultimately proofed by him," says a station insider to FTVLive.

Insiders tell FTVLive that Tomko did get a 1 day suspension and a Producer who texted the Tomko that night saying he was uncomfortable with the story got suspended 2 days.

So, it appears that the ND got a slap on the wrist while others we penalized much more harshly. Word is that WBFF GM Bill Fanshawe held a newsroom meeting to explain discipline handed out.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Crowd forms human shield, violence erupts after police try to stop man, officers say
Sun Sentinel; December 30, 2014

What started out as a simple stop for Delray Beach Police quickly turned into a 50-plus person melee.

A group of people formed a human shield to keep police officers from a man who police wanted to detain Saturday in a neighborhood. "The next thing they know, there's 70 to 75 people out there," Sgt. Nicole Guerriero said. "The officers had to use pepper spray to get the people back."

Ultimately, four people were arrested, and a police cruiser windshield was shattered. An officer was struck during the skirmish, but no additional injuries were reported.

The events began Saturday night when officers saw a man walking down the road and smoking, Delray Beach Police said. The officers smelled marijuana and decided to stop their police vehicle, according to Sgt. Nicole Guerriero.

But the man quickly scampered away, going into a house near the corner of Southwest Eighth Avenue and Southwest Third Court. Officers tried to talk to the man, but out from the house came about 20 people and they were forming a human shield.

Guerriero said it didn't sound like there was a party going on at the house, but there were a lot of people gathered at the residence for an unknown reason.

"They formed this shield and started getting aggressive," Guerriero said. "Someone hit the officer and pushed him away, they were throwing bottles, they were cursing and screaming at them."

Two officers, who were sitting in a police cruiser, tried to intervene, but this made things worse. Guerriero said more people started showing up and the crowd grew to upward of 50 people. Officers called for backup.

"The next thing they know, there's 70 to 75 people out there," she said. "The officers had to use pepper spray to get the people back."

When someone would throw a bottle toward officers, the human chain would push the person back behind them and stop officers from making an arrest, she said.

At one point, someone threw an object — either a bottle or a brick — and damaged the windshield of a police cruiser, Guerriero said.

Four were detained in the incident. Keith Clinton Sr., 58, faces an obstruction of justice charge. His son, Keith Clinton Jr., 32, faces an obstruction charge and assault on a law enforcement officer.

Jamarr Harris, 28, faces an obstruction charge and an inciting a riot charge. Victor Isme, 34, faces charges of assault on a law enforcement officer, possession of crack cocaine, possession of drug paraphernalia and inciting a riot.

All four have been released from the Palm Beach County Jail.

[Note: Mugshots of four arrested at original article]

 

[General Tso]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

That stupid ### deserved a lot more than being pushed away. What kind of idiot sneaks up behind a NY police officer and starts dancing only a few days after two officers get ambushed and killed? I've seen some stupid #### in my day, but that right there might take the cake.And screw Ellen for advocating that type of prank. There's too many wackos and too much stress in the streets right now. That stuff just ain't funny right now.

 

[General Tso]

Baltimore News Crew Fired after "Let's Kill a Cop" Story

December 30, 2014

Back on December 22nd, FTVLive told you about Sinclair owned WBBF's story that was misleadingly edited to make it sound like protesters were calling on people to “kill a cop.”

“At this rally in Washington, D.C. participants chanted, ‘We won’t stop, we can’t stop, so kill a cop,’” WBFF’s Melinda Roeder said during her report.

It was pointed out that wasn't what the protestors were saying and the clip was wildly taken out of context.

The station apologized for the story, but now sources tell FTVLive that firings have happened at the station as fallout from the story.

Sources tell FTVLive that both the Reporter and the Photographer that did the story have been let go.

Insiders say that the story idea came directly from News Director Mike Tomko. "It was found by him, assigned by him and ultimately proofed by him," says a station insider to FTVLive.

Insiders tell FTVLive that Tomko did get a 1 day suspension and a Producer who texted the Tomko that night saying he was uncomfortable with the story got suspended 2 days.

So, it appears that the ND got a slap on the wrist while others we penalized much more harshly. Word is that WBFF GM Bill Fanshawe held a newsroom meeting to explain discipline handed out.

It's a good start. But it sounds like the Director and the Producer got off easy and fed the lower level employees to the wolves.

 

[General Tso]

Crowd forms human shield, violence erupts after police try to stop man, officers say

Sun Sentinel; December 30, 2014

What started out as a simple stop for Delray Beach Police quickly turned into a 50-plus person melee.

A group of people formed a human shield to keep police officers from a man who police wanted to detain Saturday in a neighborhood. "The next thing they know, there's 70 to 75 people out there," Sgt. Nicole Guerriero said. "The officers had to use pepper spray to get the people back."

Ultimately, four people were arrested, and a police cruiser windshield was shattered. An officer was struck during the skirmish, but no additional injuries were reported.

The events began Saturday night when officers saw a man walking down the road and smoking, Delray Beach Police said. The officers smelled marijuana and decided to stop their police vehicle, according to Sgt. Nicole Guerriero.

But the man quickly scampered away, going into a house near the corner of Southwest Eighth Avenue and Southwest Third Court. Officers tried to talk to the man, but out from the house came about 20 people and they were forming a human shield.

Guerriero said it didn't sound like there was a party going on at the house, but there were a lot of people gathered at the residence for an unknown reason.

"They formed this shield and started getting aggressive," Guerriero said. "Someone hit the officer and pushed him away, they were throwing bottles, they were cursing and screaming at them."

Two officers, who were sitting in a police cruiser, tried to intervene, but this made things worse. Guerriero said more people started showing up and the crowd grew to upward of 50 people. Officers called for backup.

"The next thing they know, there's 70 to 75 people out there," she said. "The officers had to use pepper spray to get the people back."

When someone would throw a bottle toward officers, the human chain would push the person back behind them and stop officers from making an arrest, she said.

At one point, someone threw an object — either a bottle or a brick — and damaged the windshield of a police cruiser, Guerriero said.

Four were detained in the incident. Keith Clinton Sr., 58, faces an obstruction of justice charge. His son, Keith Clinton Jr., 32, faces an obstruction charge and assault on a law enforcement officer.

Jamarr Harris, 28, faces an obstruction charge and an inciting a riot charge. Victor Isme, 34, faces charges of assault on a law enforcement officer, possession of crack cocaine, possession of drug paraphernalia and inciting a riot.

All four have been released from the Palm Beach County Jail.

[Note: Mugshots of four arrested at original article]

Sounds like we've officially opened the can of worms. More people emboldened to resist police. Police fearing for their lives making fewer arrests. Sounds like a great time to be a criminal.Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

 

[Fennis]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

those cops should be fired.

 

[Jayrod]

Stay classy NYPD

http://nypost.com/2014/12/29/arrests-plummet-following-execution-of-two-cops/

Stay Classy vs. Stay Safe

The percent of the drop off in arrests and tickets being so high is surprising, but the fact that there is a drop off is not surprising at all since the police essentially admitted days ago that they were switching protocol to emphasize officer safety.

A flurry of notices by police union leaders stopped short of urging members not to respond to calls for help, but prescribed steps for putting their own safety first, whether that created a deployment problem for commanders or not. The changes could reverse two decades of policing conceived by Mr. Bratton in his first stint as city police commissioner, and push the force into a reactive mode.

Make sure officers are backing each other up at all radio runs, wrote Lou Turco, president of the Lieutenants Benevolent Association. Your main job is to ensure the safety of yourselves and your officers. (NYT, December 21, 2014)

Jesus, that's appalling.

If you're unwilling to serve the public if it means putting yourself in danger, you have no business collecting a paycheck for law enforcement or being authorized by the state to use force. If that means we have to raise police pay in order to attract people who are brave and noble enough to do the job properly, great. I'd be happy to pay more taxes if it means having cops who actually do their jobs. Everyone else can do a great job of ensuring their own safety at home.

You arrogant, entitled son of a #####."Die for me because I pay you to."

That an unfair and terrible paraphrase of what I wrote.

I'd clarify my point if you seemed open-minded enough to consider it, but I suspect you'd just disregard it and pretend I said something completely different so you could call me names. Grow up.

On such a sensitive issue you ought to take more care about what you write so it doesn't need to be clarified. Read the two bolded quotes and then read your first line. Because "Jesus, that's appalling," is nowhere near the correct response. Pretty much my entire response was based on that. Your response is arrogant and it is an entitled mindset.

Your statements just expose a serious lack of understanding about what police officers go through. And the fact that you seem to approach it from some kind of moral high ground is really frustrating. Put yourself in a police officer shoes today after what has been happening. What do you think you would need to do? Wouldn't you take more time to be more careful? Begrudging them that is something that I find appalling.

 

[TobiasFunke]

You arrogant, entitled son of a #####."Die for me because I pay you to."

That an unfair and terrible paraphrase of what I wrote.

I'd clarify my point if you seemed open-minded enough to consider it, but I suspect you'd just disregard it and pretend I said something completely different so you could call me names. Grow up.

On such a sensitive issue you ought to take more care about what you write so it doesn't need to be clarified.Read the two bolded quotes and then read your first line. Because "Jesus, that's appalling," is nowhere near the correct response. Pretty much my entire response was based on that. Your response is arrogant and it is an entitled mindset.

Your statements just expose a serious lack of understanding about what police officers go through. And the fact that you seem to approach it from some kind of moral high ground is really frustrating. Put yourself in a police officer shoes today after what has been happening. What do you think you would need to do? Wouldn't you take more time to be more careful? Begrudging them that is something that I find appalling.

I'm appalled by the notion of police saying that they are altering their tactics in a way that very likely will result in harm to the public they're supposed to protect and serve. I'm appalled by a statement that the main job of the police is anything other than to serve the public by deterring and preventing crime. I'm not the only one by a longshot. Plenty of others think that's the main job of law enforcement is to maintain the peace and serve the public, including the NYPD. Appalled is the correct word to use when you're appalled. Sorry.

As for the rest of your post- I'm not sure how you can read condemning a fundamental change in protocol and mission that will, by its own admission, negatively affect their ability to keep the peace and prevent crime/pursue criminals as simply "begrudging them for taking the time to be a little more careful." You want to play the "put yourself in their shoes" game- how would you feel if someone broke into your home with wife and kids inside and the police response is delayed because they need to obtain backup, or because the on-duty force is all busy backing up their peers on other calls? I seriously doubt your response would be "oh, sure. I understand. As long as the boys in blue are safe!"

I absolutely appreciate the sacrifice made by many in law enforcement, it's ridiculous to say otherwise. I have friends that are former cops. In the same post that set you off I also said I'd support a pay raise to compensate them for that sacrifice and to attract better candidates with the courage to make it. Turning that into me saying "die for me because I pay you" and calling me an "arrogant, entitled son of a #####" was a bizarre response.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Protesters storm police headquarters in downtown St. LouisFOX St. Louis; December 31, 2014

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI)- Protesters stormed the doors of the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department headquarters Wednesday morning. Their plan is to occupy the department for four and a half hours.

About 15 protesters were in the lobby and refused to leave until their demands were met. They also handed police an ‘Eviction Notice.’

According to various social media reports, several demonstrators have been pepper sprayed.

This is a developing story.

FOX 2 will keep you updated as details become available.

Pictures and Tweets at the original article, as well as a copy of the 'Eviction Notice'.

 

[whiskey7]

I'm not saying someone should be able to punch him in the face or that what the cop did was right, but he wasn't just dancing. Even before the part with the cop, you have to see how someone could be suspicious of this guy. If he was just dancing that would be one thing but he does it behind people's backs and as soon as they notice him, he stops. That's not suspicious? How would I know if he isn't trying to grab my wallet? How does the cop know if he's not trying to grab his gun?

And the cop doesn't exactly throw him to the ground. He pushed him away and the guy fell down. Doesn't justify but it wasn't like it was a takedown.

He got off easy, imo.

+1

That stupid ### deserved a lot more than being pushed away. What kind of idiot sneaks up behind a NY police officer and starts dancing only a few days after two officers get ambushed and killed? I've seen some stupid #### in my day, but that right there might take the cake.And screw Ellen for advocating that type of prank. There's too many wackos and too much stress in the streets right now. That stuff just ain't funny right now.

This

Crowd forms human shield, violence erupts after police try to stop man, officers say

Sun Sentinel; December 30, 2014

What started out as a simple stop for Delray Beach Police quickly turned into a 50-plus person melee.

A group of people formed a human shield to keep police officers from a man who police wanted to detain Saturday in a neighborhood. "The next thing they know, there's 70 to 75 people out there," Sgt. Nicole Guerriero said. "The officers had to use pepper spray to get the people back."

Ultimately, four people were arrested, and a police cruiser windshield was shattered. An officer was struck during the skirmish, but no additional injuries were reported.

The events began Saturday night when officers saw a man walking down the road and smoking, Delray Beach Police said. The officers smelled marijuana and decided to stop their police vehicle, according to Sgt. Nicole Guerriero.

But the man quickly scampered away, going into a house near the corner of Southwest Eighth Avenue and Southwest Third Court. Officers tried to talk to the man, but out from the house came about 20 people and they were forming a human shield.

Guerriero said it didn't sound like there was a party going on at the house, but there were a lot of people gathered at the residence for an unknown reason.

"They formed this shield and started getting aggressive," Guerriero said. "Someone hit the officer and pushed him away, they were throwing bottles, they were cursing and screaming at them."

Two officers, who were sitting in a police cruiser, tried to intervene, but this made things worse. Guerriero said more people started showing up and the crowd grew to upward of 50 people. Officers called for backup.

"The next thing they know, there's 70 to 75 people out there," she said. "The officers had to use pepper spray to get the people back."

When someone would throw a bottle toward officers, the human chain would push the person back behind them and stop officers from making an arrest, she said.

At one point, someone threw an object — either a bottle or a brick — and damaged the windshield of a police cruiser, Guerriero said.

Four were detained in the incident. Keith Clinton Sr., 58, faces an obstruction of justice charge. His son, Keith Clinton Jr., 32, faces an obstruction charge and assault on a law enforcement officer.

Jamarr Harris, 28, faces an obstruction charge and an inciting a riot charge. Victor Isme, 34, faces charges of assault on a law enforcement officer, possession of crack cocaine, possession of drug paraphernalia and inciting a riot.

All four have been released from the Palm Beach County Jail.

[Note: Mugshots of four arrested at original article]

Sounds like we've officially opened the can of worms. More people emboldened to resist police. Police fearing for their lives making fewer arrests. Sounds like a great time to be a criminal.Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

Yep

Protesters storm police headquarters in downtown St. LouisFOX St. Louis; December 31, 2014

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI)- Protesters stormed the doors of the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department headquarters Wednesday morning. Their plan is to occupy the department for four and a half hours.

About 15 protesters were in the lobby and refused to leave until their demands were met. They also handed police an ‘Eviction Notice.’

According to various social media reports, several demonstrators have been pepper sprayed.

This is a developing story.

FOX 2 will keep you updated as details become available.

Pictures and Tweets at the original article, as well as a copy of the 'Eviction Notice'.

If only there were no cops, I am sure Ferguson would be a much more harmonious and prosperous place

 

[PinkydaPimp]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

Its a prank. it shouldnt be a big deal. But these cops are making it more than it should be. This could have easily been resolved by them telling him to move along. Hell they could have joined in and maybe that would have helped their rep in this city. But they choose to go the other direction entirely.

 

[whiskey7]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

As such, no reason to do it right in the back pocket of people who not only just saw two of their own killed in an ambush attack but are also arguably the most stressed-out, under attack people in this country right now. There are times and places for pranks and that was neither. Plus, its very easy for us all to sit here and say it was a prank because we know it was before watching the video. That guy came up to those cops in real time and they had no way of knowing he was just being a clown.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

Im guessing its more the timing of the dance than anything...tensions are a an all time high and harmless pranks like that are going to be met with bad results. The cops took it too far for that reason IMO . The guy dancing wanted attention...he got it lol

 

[PinkydaPimp]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

The intent wasnt to prank cops. They seemed to just be there so it did it. obviously a bad decision but again, the issue right now has to do with how cops are handling themselves and this is another situation handled poorly by them that could have easily been resolved with no incident. If they want respect they need to give it as well. Giving the guy a shove at the end was unnecessary.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

If they want respect they need to give it as well.

Wouldn't the same apply to the prankster who initiated the interaction?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

If they want respect they need to give it as well.

Wouldn't the same apply to the prankster who initiated the interaction?

it applies to both. The prankster was rude but he didnt put his hands on the cop(or any of the many others pranked in the video). That is the part that was unnecessary.

 

[parasaurolophus]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

 

[whiskey7]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

Exactly!

 

[PinkydaPimp]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

dancing guy pushed himself down? Do you think its ok for cops to push people like that regardless of what they have done if they arent detaining them? They pushed him in the back as he was walking away.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

 

[glock]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

It might have something to do with them not being schmucks in a crowd, but rather officers sworn to serve and protect. They are and should be held to a higher standard. Don't you think?

 

[parasaurolophus]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

It might have something to do with them not being schmucks in a crowd, but rather officers sworn to serve and protect. They are and should be held to a higher standard. Don't you think?

How much higher?

 

[whiskey7]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

Dancing guy has chosen to pull pranks to get reactions out of people when he surprises them. If that's his schtick, he should be careful about who he chooses as marks and he should not whine (nor be surprised) when the reaction is not exactly what he was anticipating.

 

[glock]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

It might have something to do with them not being schmucks in a crowd, but rather officers sworn to serve and protect. They are and should be held to a higher standard. Don't you think?

How much higher?

I'm taking it that the officer's actions don't mean anything simply because no injuries were sustained...

 

[shadyridr]

The cops in the dancing video were punk bullies. Are people really justifying they have a right to push him like that?

 

[glock]

The cops in the dancing video were punk bullies. Are people really justifying they have a right to push him like that?

But he didn't get injured!!

 

[parasaurolophus]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

It might have something to do with them not being schmucks in a crowd, but rather officers sworn to serve and protect. They are and should be held to a higher standard. Don't you think?

How much higher?

I'm taking it that the officer's actions don't mean anything simply because no injuries were sustained...

The officers actions aren't really important to me because I am not a woman and it was a minor shove and the dude fell down. You cant even really see it so he could have intentionally taken a dive for all we know. It would have taken something falling out of the sky and landing on him for him to even have a chance at sustaining an injury.

If the guy was in a walker or on crutches you would have a valid point.

 

[glock]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

It might have something to do with them not being schmucks in a crowd, but rather officers sworn to serve and protect. They are and should be held to a higher standard. Don't you think?

How much higher?

I'm taking it that the officer's actions don't mean anything simply because no injuries were sustained...

The officers actions aren't really important to me.

Aaaalrighty then.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

The cops in the dancing video were punk bullies. Are people really justifying they have a right to push him like that?

But he didn't get injured!!

what if he did? Seems just blind luck he didnt.

 

[glock]

The cops in the dancing video were punk bullies. Are people really justifying they have a right to push him like that?

But he didn't get injured!!

what if he did? Seems just blind luck he didnt.

Exactly.

(recalibrate your sarcasm meter...)

 

[avoiding injuries]

I am very happy not to be a police officer.

 

[GrandpaRox]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

One moron dancing, one moron responsible and one moron posting.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

aaaand hes here lol

 

[jamny]

The cops in the dancing video were punk bullies. Are people really justifying they have a right to push him like that?

I think almost everyone has said the cop shouldn't have done that.

 

[parasaurolophus]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

Im the schmuck in a crowd. Don't you think?

Yes. I agree.

 

[glock]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

Im the schmuck in a crowd. Don't you think?

Yes. I agree.

Yes. That's exactly what I did. Only different, right?

 

[Gary Coal Man]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

It might have something to do with them not being schmucks in a crowd, but rather officers sworn to serve and protect. They are and should be held to a higher standard. Don't you think?

Are you asking whether I think that officers should be held to a higher standard? Or are you asking whether I think that Dancing Guy is getting more attention because he was "attacked" by officers rather than the other way around?

Yes, I do think that officers, as people sworn to uphold the law, should be held to a higher standard. Yet the vast difference in the level of violence, the number of actors involved, and the injuries sustained in that incident versus the incidents where officers were attacked should make the other incidents more newsworthy.

There's also a standard by which members of society should comport themselves for the social contract our society is based on to work. Admittedly, this standard is slightly lower standard than the officers' standard, but the people who violently attacked officers were further from meeting their social contract standard than the officers were meeting their standard.

And, yes, I do think the fact that an officer failed to meet his standard is part of the reason why the Dancing Guy is getting more attention than the incidents where officers were attacked. The other reasons are:

1. The Dancing Guy altercation is on video, and the other incidents are not. Humans react more to video than print because we're visual animals.

2. Dancing Guy is humorous. We like little humor mixed in with our news.

3. The media tends to side more with the protestors than the police. If the media has a chance to portray the police in a negative light, they'll take it. And if the media has a chance to bury attacks against the police so that the public will not conflate those attack with the peaceful protestors, the media will do that too.

4. The people who attacked the police in both instances I'm referencing are black. There's still a level of uneasiness among many in the media and the public at large to highlight instances where the attackers are black. Yet that is relevant because it shows why police may disproportionately fear attack from that demographic, and thus act more defensively or aggressive as a result.

 

[GrandpaRox]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

Oh so he showing respect. Ellen should be ashamed and will lose followers if she does not fix this.

I am much more attentive since Ferguson when I carry out in public.

 

[glock]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

It might have something to do with them not being schmucks in a crowd, but rather officers sworn to serve and protect. They are and should be held to a higher standard. Don't you think?

Are you asking whether I think that officers should be held to a higher standard? Or are you asking whether I think that Dancing Guy is getting more attention because he was "attacked" by officers rather than the other way around?

Yes, I do think that officers, as people sworn to uphold the law, should be held to a higher standard. Yet the vast difference in the level of violence, the number of actors involved, and the injuries sustained in that incident versus the incidents where officers were attacked should make the other incidents more newsworthy.

There's also a standard by which members of society should comport themselves for the social contract our society is based on to work. Admittedly, this standard is slightly lower standard than the officers' standard, but the people who violently attacked officers were further from meeting their social contract standard than the officers were meeting their standard.

And, yes, I do think the fact that an officer failed to meet his standard is part of the reason why the Dancing Guy is getting more attention than the incidents where officers were attacked. The other reasons are:

1. The Dancing Guy altercation is on video, and the other incidents are not. Humans react more to video than print because we're visual animals.

2. Dancing Guy is humorous. We like little humor mixed in with our news.

3. The media tends to side more with the protestors than the police. If the media has a chance to portray the police in a negative light, they'll take it. And if the media has a chance to bury attacks against the police so that the public will not conflate those attack with the peaceful protestors, the media will do that too.

4. The people who attacked the police in both instances I'm referencing are black. There's still a level of uneasiness among many in the media and the public at large to highlight instances where the attackers are black. Yet that is relevant because it shows why police may disproportionately fear attack from that demographic, and thus act more defensively or aggressive as a result.

Don't think for one minute that I'm supporting the actions of the "schmucks in a crowd" nor do I think that the dancer episode should get more play. Taken individually, I'm just saying that the behavior of the officers in "the dancer" was unacceptable. Not more or less or equal to anything. Just not okay.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

It might have something to do with them not being schmucks in a crowd, but rather officers sworn to serve and protect. They are and should be held to a higher standard. Don't you think?

Are you asking whether I think that officers should be held to a higher standard? Or are you asking whether I think that Dancing Guy is getting more attention because he was "attacked" by officers rather than the other way around?

Yes, I do think that officers, as people sworn to uphold the law, should be held to a higher standard. Yet the vast difference in the level of violence, the number of actors involved, and the injuries sustained in that incident versus the incidents where officers were attacked should make the other incidents more newsworthy.

There's also a standard by which members of society should comport themselves for the social contract our society is based on to work. Admittedly, this standard is slightly lower standard than the officers' standard, but the people who violently attacked officers were further from meeting their social contract standard than the officers were meeting their standard.

And, yes, I do think the fact that an officer failed to meet his standard is part of the reason why the Dancing Guy is getting more attention than the incidents where officers were attacked. The other reasons are:

1. The Dancing Guy altercation is on video, and the other incidents are not. Humans react more to video than print because we're visual animals.

2. Dancing Guy is humorous. We like little humor mixed in with our news.

3. The media tends to side more with the protestors than the police. If the media has a chance to portray the police in a negative light, they'll take it. And if the media has a chance to bury attacks against the police so that the public will not conflate those attack with the peaceful protestors, the media will do that too.

4. The people who attacked the police in both instances I'm referencing are black. There's still a level of uneasiness among many in the media and the public at large to highlight instances where the attackers are black. Yet that is relevant because it shows why police may disproportionately fear attack from that demographic, and thus act more defensively or aggressive as a result.

Don't think for one minute that I'm supporting the actions of the "schmucks in a crowd" nor do I think that the dancer episode should get more play. Taken individually, I'm just saying that the behavior of the officers in "the dancer" was unacceptable. Not more or less or equal to anything. Just not okay.

I completely agree. Once it was clear the guy posed no threat there was no need for harassment or the push.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

lol you seem to be lost.

 

[parasaurolophus]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

Im the schmuck in a crowd. Don't you think?

Yes. I agree.

Yes. That's exactly what I did. Only different, right?

Sometimes I use hyperbole to point out how stupid something is. I think you get the point. You could have tried to make your initial point without trying to be underhanded about it. Just quote and then bold the part you take offense to.

In retrospect you have somewhat of a valid point as I admit my comment seems to encourage such behavior. I don't encourage it, but I equate it to spanking a child on the diaper. Even though I am very much against spanking and think it is lazy parenting, it would never cause me to go say something to a parent that I saw give their child a quick spank on the diaper in a store, even if then their child happened to trip and fall after.

I think with all the things happening right now this story is just a blip and should be a gloss over, but somehow it isn't. I find that strange. To me it seems people are really looking for any excuse they can to be very critical of police. I feel for them. Especially when there are people out there that would spit in their face and then turn around and make a call to 911 as soon as their neighbor tried to steal their car.

 

[msommer]

And some people are still wondering why the public is losing trust in the police department. link

Oh come on. He's lucky someone didn't punch him in the face. That is purposely trying to antagonize.

It appears to be...dancing...

Which one is you?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

I was waiting for more clarity to respond on these incidents. Here is some.

https://storify.com/tempusrob/cory-provost-pd-incident

I suspect we will hear more in the coming days.

 

[parasaurolophus]

how is this incident even registering on radar? Guy sneaks up on cops. Gets questioned. Gets pushed away. He falls down. Oh the horror!.

It's perplexing to me as well. Over the past two pages I've posted articles where police in Boston and Florida were attacked by packs of people simply because the officers were making a lawful arrest. In both instances the officers sustained injuries. Yet an officer pushing a prankster who sustained no injuries is getting more traction? To each their own I guess.

I was waiting for more clarity to respond on these incidents. Here is some.

https://storify.com/tempusrob/cory-provost-pd-incident

I suspect we will hear more in the coming days.

Where is the better video he claims he was going to post? Seems that would answer lots of questions.

 

[General Tso]

See the Cory Provost YouTube channel. There are 6 videos of the Delray incident that he uploaded. Unbelievable stuff. If you only have a few minutes, at least watch the first few minutes of video 4.

http://youtu.be/SDl_2T7dgyQ

By the way, Provost is a politician in New York and was one of Obama's 2012 delegates. This country is screwed. New Years resolution - buy a gun. Or two.

 

[Henry Ford]

It's my understanding - and I don't have a source for this other than left-wing publications that don't have good sourcing for the information - that New York has had a tremendous drop in actual crime since the police stopped arresting people unless absolutely necessary. Any New Yorkers who can shed some light on whether that's true?