jonessed
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Without the cop as a witness how would they identify the guy? Citizens arrest? Steal his wallet? If he tries to leave what are the limits on physically restraining him? If he wins the court case are those that held him or beat him up now responsible for their actions? I would think they would be open to, at the very least, civil lawsuits.I have often wondered if making the penalty smaller for such an offense, but increasing the enforcement of it would have a much better effect on reducing the number of times this happens. I think we both agree that the perv in the bar pretty much walks away scot free every time. It is seldom taken to the police because women think why go through the trouble.
Well what if it became something that got ticketed in bars across america on a nightly basis. Not charged as a sex crime and then bringing registries in, lawyers, etc. I mean what if we treated it like speeding in a construction zone. I am not bringing this up to minimize it. I am not arguing it is a minor crime. I am just wondering if it became something that was actually often punished, would that do more to curb the behavior.
Not something I am dug in on, just throwing something out as an idea. I have no idea what % of people fight speeding tickets. Whatever that % is though I would think it would be a lot lower if it was a public forum that people would be having to defend themselves against groping.
Women are obviously repulsed and offended and hurt and all sorts of other feelings when they get grabbed at a bar. They also dont want to have their life turned upside down because of it by reporting it and risking testifying, etc. Well what if their only involvement was giving a statement to an officer that it happened and then a ticket was issued? Would they be more likely to do that? Would it help? Just an idea.
Who acts as a witness if the accuser doesn’t have to show up to court? It obviously can’t be the police officer if the officer wasn’t there. Do we go to a Judge Dredd system where the officer that takes the report is also the judge? Just wrap it all up in 30 minutes, bang the gavel, and send everybody on their way?
I find it hard to believe that DAs everywhere are secretly pro-rapist. That they like to let sex assaulters off easy because they sympathize with the secret society of sex assaulters. These are just often hard cases to prosecute and win.
I don’t have a good solution, but I know ditching due process to make it easier for prosecutors to convict is a very bad one. Criminal acts deserve criminal prosecution and criminal prosecution requires due process.
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