Culpepper to be traded next year? (1 Viewer)

[Righetti]

Daunte Culpepper, QB MINNews: The Minneapolis Star-Tribune reports Vikings QB Daunte Culpepper brought up the possibility of playing elsewhere in 2006 during an off-camera television interview. Culpepper said, "I want to play where I'm wanted. Whatever team gets me next year, the team where I'm wanted, they'll get a bigger, better, faster Daunte Culpepper," he said. Culpepper also said he's lost 25 pounds to reduce stress on his knee.

sportsline.com

 

[Righetti]

The rumors are getting louder that Minnesota quarterback Daunte Culpepper might have taken his last snap for the Vikes. With Brad Johnson proving the club can win without Culpepper, as well as the recent charge of indecent, lewd and disorderly conduct against the injured signal-caller, Culpepper might just be looking for a new employer in the near future.

NY Post

 

[Righetti]

Injured Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper reportedly raised the possibility of playing elsewhere in 2006 during an off-camera interview Sunday morning with ESPN."I want to play where I'm wanted," Culpepper told reporter Andrea Kremer, who relayed the statement during ESPN's "Sunday NFL Countdown." Owner Zygi Wilf said as recently as Tuesday that Culpepper will be on the Vikings' 2006 roster, even if his surgically repaired right knee is not fully healed in time for training camp. Two days later, Culpepper was charged with three misdemeanors in connection with an alleged Oct. 6 sex party aboard two boats on Lake Minnetonka.Culpepper, who has refused to speak with the Star Tribune, reiterated his innocence Sunday to ESPN and said that he was charged even though only one employee of Al & Alma's Supper Club identified him. Team officials are not happy that Culpepper plans to fight the charges in open court, but there are no indications the situation would change Wilf's mind.Nevertheless, Kremer reported that Culpepper said: "Whatever team gets me next year, the team where I'm wanted, they'll get a bigger, better, faster Daunte Culpepper."Culpepper also told Kremer he has lost 25 pounds from his 265-pound frame in order to reduce stress on his right knee.

startribune article

 

[Dynasty]

...they'll get a bigger, better, faster Daunte Culpepper," he said. Culpepper also said he's lost 25 pounds to reduce stress on his knee.

That sounds a bit contradictory.

 

[Mister CIA]

...they'll get a bigger, better, faster Daunte Culpepper," he said. Culpepper also said he's lost 25 pounds to reduce stress on his knee.

That sounds a bit contradictory.

Bigger stats ?? .... I hope.

 

[Righetti]

how about to Arizona.. we've talked about this before and with Larry Fitz and Anquan Boldin he'd arguably have better weapons than he had in Minnesota

 

[datonn]

how about to Arizona.. we've talked about this before and with Larry Fitz and Anquan Boldin he'd arguably have better weapons than he had in Minnesota

Honestly though, what does Arizona have (if Boldin and LFitz are off the table) that the Vikings would actually want? If they didn't wind up with a #1 or #2 overall pick in 2006 (Bush or Leinart), what's the point? Brad Johnson is NOT the future of the franchise, and unless they made a play for a "Kitna" or "Brees", trading Culpepper doesn't really accomplish much of anything IMHO.

 

[Righetti]

no idea what Arizona could offer.. the only thing I can think of is McCown and a first

 

[Limp Ditka]

How this keeps getting air time is beyond me.No one, and I repeat, no one is going to give up anything of value for a QB that might not even see the field until well into the 2006 season.

 

[datonn]

no idea what Arizona could offer.. the only thing I can think of is McCown and a first

Yes, but McCown and a "non-top 2" #1 pick is hopefully not something the Vikings would want or even respond to. With a decent head coach, big-time RB and a solid 2006 draft, the Vikings are actually VERY close to making some serious noise in the NFC. Why they would bust something like that up for something named "Josh McCown" is beyond me. That said, I'm sure that Denny Green would/will be working the phones a bit...trying to see if the Vikings might be interested in a little somethin'-somethin'.......

 

[Sinrman]

I like Culpepper, but I'm a good deal worried about his knee. That wasn't just your a-typical ACL injury. That was a whole lotta stuff messed up there, and he has a LOT of rehabbing to do. More than the usual knee injury...

 

[Righetti]

Lets see how this plays out

 

[ZJilla]

no idea what Arizona could offer.. the only thing I can think of is McCown and a first

ummm...Boldin?they sure as hell can't want McCown.

 

[Napoleon Dynamite]

how about to Arizona.. we've talked about this before and with Larry Fitz and Anquan Boldin he'd arguably have better weapons than he had in Minnesota

Honestly though, what does Arizona have (if Boldin and LFitz are off the table) that the Vikings would actually want? If they didn't wind up with a #1 or #2 overall pick in 2006 (Bush or Leinart), what's the point? Brad Johnson is NOT the future of the franchise, and unless they made a play for a "Kitna" or "Brees", trading Culpepper doesn't really accomplish much of anything IMHO.

Ahm.. did you see the crap they got for Moss? I know QBs are usually worth a lot more but Cpeps value went down quite a bit after the poor performances, the injury, boat party?

 

[Texasmouth]

Can they even trade Daunte? What would the salary ramifications be?

 

[Blackjacks]

Ricky Williams and an additional mid pick for Daunte would be cool. I know it won't happen but it works for needs for both teams. It also puts Daunte back with his o coordinator from his hay day in Minny. Minny gives the bigger prize but gets a stud rb and saves a crapload of $ and it would be great for my fantasy team which is what really matters.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Arizona needs to worry about getting a running game. In other words, they need to upgrade their offensive line. If they traded for Culpepper, it would cost them too much and they would have a hard time doing so.

 

[snogger]

How this keeps getting air time is beyond me.

No one, and I repeat, no one is going to give up anything of value for a QB that might not even see the field until well into the 2006 season.

Anyone who truly thinks a team is going to give up what it would take for the Vikings to trade Culppper before July of 2006 is dreaming.

No team will give up their future to play a game of hope and see if he recovers.

 

[bostonfred]

What a bad teammate. Especially with his team in a playoff run and just two games to go. The off field incidents and the bad on field play - they shouldn't trade him, they should bench him for the rest of his life.

 

[houndirish]

I tend to agree that the Culpepper to Arizona trade isn't going to happen but if we were actually dreaming up scenarios and the salary cap implications don't exist, the Vikings should at least be asking for Karlos Dansby and maybe even Adrian Wilson.

 

[Texasmouth]

Arizona needs to worry about getting a running game. In other words, they need to upgrade their offensive line. If they traded for Culpepper, it would cost them too much and they would have a hard time doing so.

I totally agree. I don't think Warner is the problem there, actually I think Warner has been a huge bright spot for that team. He is putting up numbers in spite of injuries to his receivers, a horrible offensive line and absolutely no running game. I think it is pretty obvious that JJ Arrington is a decent third down back at best. Shipp is done.

 

[Hear-the-Footsteps]

Culpepper in Detroit?!?!I thinka) they are tired of the Harrington project;b) Garcia in the WCO under Mooch did not prove to be nearly the hype it was projected to bec) they basically need a new qb (not as old as Garcia) to start building chemistry with the offense since it is so young (Rogers, Williams, Williams, KJones, etc) and desperately needs a leader;d) while Culpepper showed that much of his success obviously came from having a great wr in Moss (and did not do nearly as well without him) - he'd have those solid young wr talents in detroit.Basically, Detroit really needs a QB and Culpepper really needs a new home.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Can they even trade Daunte? What would the salary ramifications be?

pm diesel. he is the resident cap expert 'round these parts

 

[cstu]

So Culpepper forces Moss out, sucks and gets injured, and now wants to be traded?

 

[babydemon90]

So Culpepper forces Moss out, sucks and gets injured, and now wants to be traded?

CPep to Oakland

 

[Lord of the Rings]

Ricky Williams and an additional mid pick for Daunte would be cool. I know it won't happen but it works for needs for both teams. It also puts Daunte back with his o coordinator from his hay day in Minny. Minny gives the bigger prize but gets a stud rb and saves a crapload of $ and it would be great for my fantasy team which is what really matters.

Hmmm. Ricky and Onterrio on the same team. Ever heard of a Holistic Whizzanator. Umm. Nevermind.

 

[FUBAR]

So Culpepper forces Moss out, sucks and gets injured, and now wants to be traded?

CPep to Oakland

Highly doubtful, but interesting to think about.

Ricky Williams and an additional mid pick for Daunte would be cool. I know it won't happen but it works for needs for both teams. It also puts Daunte back with his o coordinator from his hay day in Minny. Minny gives the bigger prize but gets a stud rb and saves a crapload of $ and it would be great for my fantasy team which is what really matters.

Hmmm. Ricky and Onterrio on the same team. Ever heard of a Holistic Whizzanator. Umm. Nevermind.

Minnesota should not want Ricky, but Miami should want Culpepper. Chambers would be huge with Culpepper.Maybe Miami's 1st rounder?

 

[SuperJohn96]

I think if he had his choice, it would be to a warm locale near water for extra boat excursion opportunities than the Minnesota area could provide. On a more serious side, he's a schlub. Does anyone really think he can commit himself to the amount of rehabbing he is going to need?I am not optimistic on his chances (as a Culpepper dynasty owner starting Brad Johnson or Gus Frerotte in the SFL Bowl against a 15-0 team...)

 

[waveman]

what a whiney #### baby....Maybe Cpep and Owens wind up in Motown

 

[FUBAR]

Maybe Cpep and Owens wind up in Motown

 

[malice]

Culpepper in Detroit?!?!

I think

a) they are tired of the Harrington project;

b) Garcia in the WCO under Mooch did not prove to be nearly the hype it was projected to be

c) they basically need a new qb (not as old as Garcia) to start building chemistry with the offense since it is so young (Rogers, Williams, Williams, KJones, etc) and desperately needs a leader;

d) while Culpepper showed that much of his success obviously came from having a great wr in Moss (and did not do nearly as well without him) - he'd have those solid young wr talents in detroit.

Basically, Detroit really needs a QB and Culpepper really needs a new home.

If you want to know what Culpepper would look like in Detroit, look no further than the Vikings first few games this season when their O-line was in turmoil and they had a shaky running game.

 

[datonn]

Honestly though, what does Arizona have (if Boldin and LFitz are off the table) that the Vikings would actually want? If they didn't wind up with a #1 or #2 overall pick in 2006 (Bush or Leinart), what's the point? Brad Johnson is NOT the future of the franchise, and unless they made a play for a "Kitna" or "Brees", trading Culpepper doesn't really accomplish much of anything IMHO.

Ahm.. did you see the crap they got for Moss? I know QBs are usually worth a lot more but Cpeps value went down quite a bit after the poor performances, the injury, boat party?

Napoleon Dynamite,Honestly, Culpepper has MUCH more value than Randy Moss from a trade perspective, and would be much more difficult to replace. Moss has been one of the best WRs in the NFL since coming into the league...but did anyone care to notice how he couldn't stay healthy over the past two seasons?! Some might call that a coincidence, but I don't. Moss' thin frame and dependance upon speed and pushing-off non-calls has been catching up with him of late, and to land a #7 overall and a potential starting LB (though Nap didn't pan out very well) is pretty decent....especially compared to what San Fran/Baltimore got for T.O. Culpepper is a franchise QB. I know all the "hatahs" and "ists" in the crowd don't like to acknowledge it, but if given proper coaching and the proper offensive scheme to run, Culpepper is a STUD quarterback in this league. Tice, Loney and Company do not come within sight of meeting those qualifications! Moss is/was a stud too, but QBs are much, MUCH harder to come by and build around than wide receivers...at least in my opinion.

 

[bostonfred]

Are you serious? There's no outrage over the injured starting QB of a playoff contending team picking NOW to speak up and say he wants to go somewhere else? This team has two games to play!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The chatter is getting louder.

DAUNTE'S INFERNO The chatter is only increasing that Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper will be looking for a new home next season, one far away from Minnesota. One team official recently said that Mike Tice had a better chance of returning to Minnesota than Culpepper, and the quarterback himself has said it might be better for him to go someplace else. Just as Culpepper could be looking for an out, the Vikings might be happy to give it to him. After last year's boat party, the team might be anxious for as much of a fresh start as possible. Should it make the decision to explore dealing Culpepper, the most logical landing spot could be Miami. The Dolphins will be scouring the league for a quarterback, and none would fit much better in Miami than Culpepper, whose former Vikings offensive coordinator Scott Linehan is in the same role under Nick Saban.

I thought earlier that there was no way that Culpepper would be gone. Apparently, I may have been wrong.I think it would be good for the franchise were he to play somewhere else.Brad Johnson, however, is not the answer. Not next year or ever again.How about a trade with Miami? Culpepper for Ricky straight up?

 

[BlueOnion]

So much change in Minnesota but I think Dante's future in Minnesota will depend more on the offensive philosophy the next head coach chooses to implement. The financial implications for keeping Dante on the roster is huge and he would be retained as a playmaking quarterback, which would also require a huge chunk of change to surround him with playmakers.On the other hand, if Minnesota only needs a monkey (Brad Johnson) to play quarterback and manage the games, then Dante is not the answering. I would prefer the later of the two and field a strong defense, a strong running game and a quarterback who can manage the game.

 

[babydemon90]

While unlikley, I would find it amusing if Arizona got Culpepper at QB and Tice as OC.... maybe even Bennett at RB.

 

[BigTex]

What would C-Pep be worth in a trade, i.e. 1st, 2nd , 3rd,..............?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

What would C-Pep be worth in a trade, i.e. 1st, 2nd , 3rd,..............?

Depends on what stage his recovery is in come draft time, I would think.

 

[BlueOnion]

What would C-Pep be worth in a trade, i.e. 1st, 2nd , 3rd,..............?

I would think a 2nd at most, and that might be full of homer optimism.

 

[fsufan]

 

[BigJim®]

So much change in Minnesota but I think Dante's future in Minnesota will depend more on the offensive philosophy the next head coach chooses to implement. The financial implications for keeping Dante on the roster is huge and he would be retained as a playmaking quarterback, which would also require a huge chunk of change to surround him with playmakers.

On the other hand, if Minnesota only needs a monkey (Brad Johnson) to play quarterback and manage the games, then Dante is not the answering. I would prefer the later of the two and field a strong defense, a strong running game and a quarterback who can manage the game.

Daunte is not going anywhere. I hope to god no one is considering trading him for pothead Williams. The problem with Culpepper in 2005 was that he had an OL coach for an offensive coordinator. He had 5000 yards/40 TDs the season prior with a real OC.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

He had 5000 yards/40 TDs the season prior with a real OC.

And a real offensive line.Okay, so the line was really offensive this year. But that's a different use of the word.

 

[Vikes Fan]

The chatter is getting louder.

I thought earlier that there was no way that Culpepper would be gone. Apparently, I may have been wrong.

I think it would be good for the franchise were he to play somewhere else.

Brad Johnson, however, is not the answer. Not next year or ever again.

How about a trade with Miami? Culpepper for Ricky straight up?

I heard Linehan and Saben were not getting along and that Saben was letting him go. No link. Sorry. I think I heard it during new coach speculation on local news after Tice was let go.

 

[Cleavage Connoisseur]

Ricky Williams and an additional mid pick for Daunte would be cool. I know it won't happen but it works for needs for both teams. It also puts Daunte back with his o coordinator from his hay day in Minny. Minny gives the bigger prize but gets a stud rb and saves a crapload of $ and it would be great for my fantasy team which is what really matters.

Hmmm. Ricky and Onterrio on the same team. Ever heard of a Holistic Whizzanator. Umm. Nevermind.

That's Funny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BlueOnion]

So much change in Minnesota but I think Dante's future in Minnesota will depend more on the offensive philosophy the next head coach chooses to implement.  The financial implications for keeping Dante on the roster is huge and he would be retained as a playmaking quarterback, which would also require a huge chunk of change to surround him with playmakers.

On the other hand, if Minnesota only needs a monkey (Brad Johnson) to play quarterback and manage the games, then Dante is not the answering.  I would prefer the later of the two and field a strong defense, a strong running game and a quarterback who can manage the game.

Daunte is not going anywhere. I hope to god no one is considering trading him for pothead Williams. The problem with Culpepper in 2005 was that he had an OL coach for an offensive coordinator. He had 5000 yards/40 TDs the season prior with a real OC.

What is your reasoning that Dante is not going anywhere?

 

[BigJim®]

So much change in Minnesota but I think Dante's future in Minnesota will depend more on the offensive philosophy the next head coach chooses to implement.  The financial implications for keeping Dante on the roster is huge and he would be retained as a playmaking quarterback, which would also require a huge chunk of change to surround him with playmakers.

On the other hand, if Minnesota only needs a monkey (Brad Johnson) to play quarterback and manage the games, then Dante is not the answering.  I would prefer the later of the two and field a strong defense, a strong running game and a quarterback who can manage the game.

Daunte is not going anywhere. I hope to god no one is considering trading him for pothead Williams. The problem with Culpepper in 2005 was that he had an OL coach for an offensive coordinator. He had 5000 yards/40 TDs the season prior with a real OC.

What is your reasoning that Dante is not going anywhere?

I believe that info was included in the post you responded to.

 

[BlueOnion]

So much change in Minnesota but I think Dante's future in Minnesota will depend more on the offensive philosophy the next head coach chooses to implement.  The financial implications for keeping Dante on the roster is huge and he would be retained as a playmaking quarterback, which would also require a huge chunk of change to surround him with playmakers.

On the other hand, if Minnesota only needs a monkey (Brad Johnson) to play quarterback and manage the games, then Dante is not the answering.  I would prefer the later of the two and field a strong defense, a strong running game and a quarterback who can manage the game.

Daunte is not going anywhere. I hope to god no one is considering trading him for pothead Williams. The problem with Culpepper in 2005 was that he had an OL coach for an offensive coordinator. He had 5000 yards/40 TDs the season prior with a real OC.

What is your reasoning that Dante is not going anywhere?

I believe that info was included in the post you responded to.

I thought you had some thoughts of your own.

 

[Spike]

I'm not saying this will happen, could happen or is rumored to happen, but wouldn't it be funny if Culpepper was traded to the Raiders?

 

[BigJim®]

So much change in Minnesota but I think Dante's future in Minnesota will depend more on the offensive philosophy the next head coach chooses to implement.  The financial implications for keeping Dante on the roster is huge and he would be retained as a playmaking quarterback, which would also require a huge chunk of change to surround him with playmakers.

On the other hand, if Minnesota only needs a monkey (Brad Johnson) to play quarterback and manage the games, then Dante is not the answering.  I would prefer the later of the two and field a strong defense, a strong running game and a quarterback who can manage the game.

Daunte is not going anywhere. I hope to god no one is considering trading him for pothead Williams. The problem with Culpepper in 2005 was that he had an OL coach for an offensive coordinator. He had 5000 yards/40 TDs the season prior with a real OC.

What is your reasoning that Dante is not going anywhere?

I believe that info was included in the post you responded to.

I thought you had some thoughts of your own.

Those were thoughts on my own. Making Culpepper a scape goat like the Vikes did with Moss (to keep Tice?!?) is beyond stupid. I saw in a prior post that you feel a 2nd round pick may even be too rich for a 5000 yard/40 TD QB? That's probably an accurate perspective of the trade market but the resounding conclusion is Culpepper can't be traded for fair value. Trading away superstars is not going to get this team moving in the right direction. Getting an elite OC/OL/RB to go with a superstar QB will. For anyone ignorant enough to scoff at my suggesting Culpepper is a superstar I'll add there is simply zero debate to be had that a guy who showed the capability to put up *historic* statistics is a superstar. Those numbers do not arise by mistake.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Those were thoughts on my own. Making Culpepper a scape goat like the Vikes did with Moss (to keep Tice?!?) is beyond stupid. I saw in a prior post that you feel a 2nd round pick may even be too rich for a 5000 yard/40 TD QB? That's probably an accurate perspective of the trade market but the resounding conclusion is Culpepper can't be traded for fair value. Trading away superstars is not going to get this team moving in the right direction. Getting an elite OC/OL/RB to go with a superstar QB will. For anyone ignorant enough to scoff at my suggesting Culpepper is a superstar I'll add there is simply zero debate to be had that a guy who showed the capability to put up *historic* statistics is a superstar. Those numbers do not arise by mistake.

Sincerely,Daunte's Mom