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Williams should be the stone cold lock #2 pick in any dynasty rookie draft, unless you start 2 QBs and 1 RB. If your league is not PPR, I could even see an argument for taking him over Bush. Young and Cutler could be fantasy top 10 QBs down the line, but there's risk and a wait for production. Leinart should be starting before the end of the season, but his lack of running ability and big arm will keep him from the fantasy QB elite, although I would have said the same thing about Brady a few years ago. Williams is the easy pick at 2, White is the easy pick at 3, and Maroney is the easy pick at 4. You shouldnt even be thinking about a QB til 5. You can trade any of those top 4 RBs for a more valuable fantasy QB than any in this draft.
I feel you, Bloom, but depending on where Lendale White goes, he could easily become the preferable #2 pick in dynasty leagues. I mean, you have White at 3, so it's not like you're one of the Lendale haters out there, but don't be so sure he won't be the right choice at 2... or, dare I say it, #1?That said, this thread is about D'Angelo Williams, and you can't really lose with him, either. If I held the #4 pick and he fell to me, I would take the whole family to Casa Bonita for a celebration.
Agreed. The situation the RBs end up in will tell where they go. If Edge leaves Indy and the Colts draft a RB in the first round...you would think he would go very high in rookie drafts. If the Broncos took that same back, he fall way down the list. If Williams ends up with the Jets or Packers...I would lean toward him over the Texan bound Reggie Bush (assuming DDavis stays there).
Ok, assuming the first 4 picks are RB...what order should/would they most likely go in? I know it depends alot on where they land, but for now...judging by pure talent and ability, how would everyone rank the top 4 RB's? Like I said earlier, the only one I've heard about is Bush...I read a small bio on Williams and Maroney and I figured Maroney is too small to be an every down back. That is the extent of my knowledge of the RB's coming out.
That may be, but a 32 team league also places an even higher value on starting RBs. In theory each team could only get 1, just like QBs, and if they start 2 it is a higher need. A guy's #2 RB will typically be a dog, so any franchise back should be highly valued. You could probably draft a Deangelo Williams and trade him straight up for a #20-#30 RB and a great QB.To answer the initial question: I see RBs occupying the 1-4 rookie picks in at least 90% of rookie drafts (Bush, Williams, L.White, Maroney). If the guy would be elated with Lienart there at 4, then he should plan to be elated.
I'll take him at #1 if the right situation presents itself. I am higher on him and White than Bush as far as an NFL prospect.
Okay, last year he broke his fibula in the 2nd half of the GMAC Bowl(last game of the year). He then played for two series after that before the coach took him out of the game. The Tennessee this year he had a sore ankle. It was the last game of the regular season and had no bowl or conference implications. Why risk serious injury and millions on a game of really no importance?
I guarantee you Williams is at least 2 inches shorter than Maroney. Maroney will come in no shorter than 5'10" and over 200 pounds...hardly too small to be an everydown back.Bush, White, Williams, and Maroney are the consensus top four RBs, and are looking strong to end up the top four dynasty picks in many leagues, barring any surprises and where they land. Any one of White, Williams, or Maroney in Indy in the event they part ways with Edge has to at least make you think twice about Bush the Texan.We may find that out when they get to the league.
I knew I'd find you in here, Memphis homer.
I attend the University of Memphis. I've seen him play for the last three years. He is fast,versatile, and runs with exceptional instict. What I really like about him over Bush is how he has shown he can carry the load. Overall, he is a real class act.
The well-publicized story is that he was medically cleared for the Tennessee game, but Williams said he'd play, but didn't want to start. So West told him if he can't start, he won't play. The importance was a rare appearence for him against a major conference opponent (albeit not the same caliber of Vol team as in recent years) with a good rushing defense and lots of scouts in attendance for a guy with all-time NCAA records in his reach. Also, Bowl implications were definitely on the line. It wasn't the last game of the regular season and Memphis only had 4 wins at the time with 3 games left. Not sure how that doesn't add up to a game of no importance.Let's not confuse Joe Doss and their fourth-string WR/QB with LenDale White and Matt Leinart, either. Bush didn't carry the load because it wasn't necessary...but he did just fine when he needed to (see: ND game). That's not taking anything away from what Williams did and the fact he did it with a sub-par supporting cast being even more impressive, but the insinuation that Bush couldn't have handled the load Williams did is unfair. Williams on USC wouldn't have been a workhorse back either, but obviously he can be, and I'm pretty sure Bush would still have been pretty good if he went somewhere else and had to do more.
But in a 32 team league, isn't every position more scarce? I imagine there's just as much (if not more of) a shortage of RBs in a 32 team league if you start more than 1. I mean, there are only 20-25 worthwile RBs in the NFL and if you have to start two in that league you'd need 64 just to fill a starting lineup, completely ignoring the fact that starting RBs go fragile and you have byes. So really you're looking at every team needing 3 RBs, or to somehow pull 96 guys from that pool of 25.
Uh-oh Uh-oh, We done did it again. We keeps it real funky in the Memphis, Tenn!I knew I'd find you in here, Memphis homer.
I attend the University of Memphis. I've seen him play for the last three years. He is fast,versatile, and runs with exceptional instict. What I really like about him over Bush is how he has shown he can carry the load. Overall, he is a real class act.
Ok, 32 team league, here are the starting lineups:Lineups: Starting lineups:
That doesn't change my valuation of RBs at all. In fact it increases it. If I can start 2 RBs while other guys are starting 2 WRs, it's a huge advantage for me. I stick to my original opinion that one should easily be able to trade a dynasty RB like DeAngelo Williams for a mid-range RB and an above average QB if you are that desparate for a serviceable QB. I would not place higher value on a rookie QB, who in all likelihood will be worthless his rookie season even if he plays, and will therefore be virtually untradeable.
My point is we only start 1 RB. With only 1 starting QB per team i wouldnt give you Brady for Cadillac...NFL teams only play ONE qb and if i have a top 20rb and only one starting QB, Cadillac is of no use
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Absolutely. Williams has everything you want from a starting RB.
