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A more serious topic than me screwing up the playoff seedings.

We had an owner die two weeks ago in the league for 15+ years. He is in the toilet bowl (actually with a pretty good team) and i am managing it so taht is not a problem. I was just wondering if that has happened to others. I have not seen it posted anywhere before. How did you handle it? :goodposting:

 
A more serious topic than me screwing up the playoff seedings. We had an owner die two weeks ago in the league for 15+ years. He is in the toilet bowl (actually with a pretty good team) and i am managing it so taht is not a problem. I was just wondering if that has happened to others. I have not seen it posted anywhere before. How did you handle it? :goodposting:
Go to the funeral and don't think about fantasy football?Have a league vote for donating the season winning $ to a charity in his name?Seriously, we've got some real problems if we are worried about fantasy football over someone's life here.
 
Wow, this would be a very difficult thing to handle... especially if it is a local league, but even if it was simply on online league i-friends. Sorry to hear about the loss.

I would not rush to any decisions but instead talk to the league about what they think is the right course of action... hopefully everyone would want to move forward with the league intact. What would be really cool is if the person who passed had a brother or son or family member that is a FF enthusiast and they were willing to take over (next year... no rush). I don't know how likely that is, but thought it might be neat.

 
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You want to forget about ff but it is what ya need-a distraction. A number of us went to the funeral, sent a plant from the league and made a donation to a charity in his name. In addition, we are going to name our new traveling trophy after him. this is most ironic for he never won the championship. He usually picked crazy teams but had fun. thankfully he had no kids or wife left behind. next years draft will be void without him. Haven't others had this happen?

 
A more serious topic than me screwing up the playoff seedings. We had an owner die two weeks ago in the league for 15+ years. He is in the toilet bowl (actually with a pretty good team) and i am managing it so taht is not a problem. I was just wondering if that has happened to others. I have not seen it posted anywhere before. How did you handle it? :thumbdown:
Go to the funeral and don't think about fantasy football?Have a league vote for donating the season winning $ to a charity in his name?Seriously, we've got some real problems if we are worried about fantasy football over someone's life here.
I don't see how that even entered the conversation. He's clearly thinking about after this season and no ff over life came into play.I say find a new owner, you've probably had to do that a few times in the 15+ years, and name the League or the Trophy for your buddy.
 
A more serious topic than me screwing up the playoff seedings. We had an owner die two weeks ago in the league for 15+ years. He is in the toilet bowl (actually with a pretty good team) and i am managing it so taht is not a problem. I was just wondering if that has happened to others. I have not seen it posted anywhere before. How did you handle it? :thumbdown:
Wow, really sorry man.I really, really like the idea of donating all the league's winnings.
 
I'm sorry about you and your friends' loss of your fellow owner :confused:

A few years ago we lost one of the original owners in our league and named the trophy in her honor. Her husband had come to share the team with her and so continued on with the team. Depending on what relationship you had with your owner's family that may be something to discuss with them (or not) as every situation is certainly different in that manner.

A donation certainly is a great idea or if there's something unique you can do that would make you think of your comrade (be it a favorite food, quirky rule) or what have you.

Ultimately I'm sure you and your friends will find what's right and approrpriate.

Again my condolences :whistle:

-QG

 
Sorry to hear about the loss.

My main league, full of fraternity brothers, had a great guy pass away last season - w/ Walter Payton's disease (can't remember the name) ironically - WAAAAAY to young. We named the league after him (using his nickname) and had the next owner who took his place (another frat bro) keep the team's name to honor him.

We also offered a link to donate to research for the disease for owners to do something on their own.

Good luck - just do something to remember him w/ the league like we did.

 
A more serious topic than me screwing up the playoff seedings. We had an owner die two weeks ago in the league for 15+ years. He is in the toilet bowl (actually with a pretty good team) and i am managing it so taht is not a problem. I was just wondering if that has happened to others. I have not seen it posted anywhere before. How did you handle it? :(
Go to the funeral and don't think about fantasy football?Have a league vote for donating the season winning $ to a charity in his name?Seriously, we've got some real problems if we are worried about fantasy football over someone's life here.
:popcorn: assume much?I don't think it was an insensitive question. How do you know if he didn't attend the funeral and/or put the team ownership to the side first and foremost?!Bearboy - If an owner passes away in the midst of a season I don't see how you could go wrong plugging in the highest scoring guys YTD at said position until the off-season when you can find a new owner.
 
We had the same thing happen a few years ago. Our League is now named after his former teams name. Just honour him as a friend FF has little to do with it.

 
Sorry for your loss. One of our guys passed away many years ago. We named the league tropy after him and donated all the money that year to charity (one that he was involved in).

 
Mourn.

Name the trophy after him or his team.

Donate some or all of the league fees to his family or something he would have liked.

Replace him for next year with an owner who will run the team as well as your friend did. (it's what he would have wanted, right?)

 
A number of us went to the funeral, sent a plant from the league and made a donation to a charity in his name. In addition, we are going to name our new traveling trophy after him. this is most ironic for he never won the championship. He usually picked crazy teams but had fun. thankfully he had no kids or wife left behind.
Beautiful gesture in all areas. :no:
 
We've got a league where the last place trophy was named after him since that's where he always finished.... it's called the Froggy award. There is now a traveling plaque for it.

Guy kicked off last year.

 
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I hope this isn't received the way I fear it might, but here goes.

It's a sad situation, and you should do whatever the league feels is appropriate. But death is the inevitable result of life for ALL of us at some point. Why should the league be named after the FIRST member to pass away? What are you going to do for the 2nd member? Rename the league?

As for the donation from the winnings, that's great. But, I would say that that should be the decision of whoever wins the league. If he/she wants to donate all or some of the winnings to a charity of some sort, great. If not, that should be OK too. Otherwise, you again establish a precedent that MIGHT be difficult to follow in the future. Should the winner donate the winnings every time a league mate passes away? What about if a league-mate is seriously ill or in a coma? What if the league mate passes away in the off-season, does that make a difference? What if the winner of the league happens to be a relative or spouse of the member who passed away?

Again, I apologize if I am offending anyone. I just think the from a practical standpoint, it might be best to just go to the funeral is possible, take a collection if appropriate for a little something for the family and aside from that just have individual league members deal with it in their own way.

 
My good friend passed away two years ago (32 years old, cancer). The two main leagues that all of us friends are in together both decided to add another $10 to the $100 entry fee, and this money ($300) goes to the memorial fund that was setup in his name. One league renamed the trophy after him, and the other league added "In loving memory of our friend ______" to the trophy.

Both leagues are keeper leagues, so we found a couple new owners to take over his team. One of his wishes was to "not let some schmuck take over his team", lol.

RIP Huey

 
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You want to forget about ff but it is what ya need-a distraction. A number of us went to the funeral, sent a plant from the league and made a donation to a charity in his name. In addition, we are going to name our new traveling trophy after him. this is most ironic for he never won the championship. He usually picked crazy teams but had fun. thankfully he had no kids or wife left behind. next years draft will be void without him. Haven't others had this happen?
I have some idea of what you are going through.I'm in a league that's began in 1998, and we're still rolling with 10 of the 12 original owners. Needless to say, it's a great group of people, and we've had a lot of fun over the years. Real life does have a way of putting things in perspective. We've never had anyone pass away, thankfully, but two years ago a little storm named Katrina threw our league into turmoil. Everyone lived in the immediate New Orleans area -- most of the league members lost their homes, and post-storm owners were scattered everywhere from Texas to Florida to North Carolina for weeks (and in some cases months). We had drafted the weekend prior to the hurricane -- had we not, I'm not sure that we would have played the 2005 season. But to a person, everyone wanted the league season to take place. It wasn't a "normal" year for the league by any stretch, but we muddled through, and it certainly gave everyone a distraction from their problems with gutting homes, rebuilding, dealing with insurance companies, and everything else that post-Katrina New Orleans was (and still is to some extent).I think the things you've done are great -- it's never easy to lose a friend, but time will heal. God bless.
 
Holy Schneikes said:
I hope this isn't received the way I fear it might, but here goes.It's a sad situation, and you should do whatever the league feels is appropriate. But death is the inevitable result of life for ALL of us at some point. Why should the league be named after the FIRST member to pass away? What are you going to do for the 2nd member? Rename the league?As for the donation from the winnings, that's great. But, I would say that that should be the decision of whoever wins the league. If he/she wants to donate all or some of the winnings to a charity of some sort, great. If not, that should be OK too. Otherwise, you again establish a precedent that MIGHT be difficult to follow in the future. Should the winner donate the winnings every time a league mate passes away? What about if a league-mate is seriously ill or in a coma? What if the league mate passes away in the off-season, does that make a difference? What if the winner of the league happens to be a relative or spouse of the member who passed away?Again, I apologize if I am offending anyone. I just think the from a practical standpoint, it might be best to just go to the funeral is possible, take a collection if appropriate for a little something for the family and aside from that just have individual league members deal with it in their own way.
:excited: We had a leaguemate that was in NO during Katrina and the idea was floated to donate the fees to a charity involved with the recovery effort. It was voted down since the donation would essentially come out of the winners pocket. The situation is a very sad one. Hopefully something will be done to remember the deceased member.
 
6-7 years ago we were having a 2 league Super Bowl party (some belonged to both leagues) at my commish' house. One guy was noticeably absent. After the Super Bowl was over, the commish got up and started talking- I know you guys are wondering where xxxxxx is. Well, last night around midnight he brought me the trophies and prize money. He asked me if I wanted to go out and have some drinks, and I told him I couldn't. He said he was going to go out drinking anyway. Around 2 am he was on his way home and driving down xxxxxx road when he lost control, rolled his car down an embankment into a creek. It landed upside down in the creek and he couldn't get out. He drowned to death.

Collection hats went around the room and were filled up nicely.

 
Holy Schneikes said:
I hope this isn't received the way I fear it might, but here goes.It's a sad situation, and you should do whatever the league feels is appropriate. But death is the inevitable result of life for ALL of us at some point. Why should the league be named after the FIRST member to pass away? What are you going to do for the 2nd member? Rename the league?As for the donation from the winnings, that's great. But, I would say that that should be the decision of whoever wins the league. If he/she wants to donate all or some of the winnings to a charity of some sort, great. If not, that should be OK too. Otherwise, you again establish a precedent that MIGHT be difficult to follow in the future. Should the winner donate the winnings every time a league mate passes away? What about if a league-mate is seriously ill or in a coma? What if the league mate passes away in the off-season, does that make a difference? What if the winner of the league happens to be a relative or spouse of the member who passed away?Again, I apologize if I am offending anyone. I just think the from a practical standpoint, it might be best to just go to the funeral is possible, take a collection if appropriate for a little something for the family and aside from that just have individual league members deal with it in their own way.
I agree. Donating the winnings should be up to whomever wins the league.
 
The Moz said:
How would you handle it if a Commish died in a 200 dollar a man league. Do you even ask the grieving Widow for the Money or just consider it a donation ?
If it were me, I would go with the "consider it a donation" option.
 
The Moz said:
How would you handle it if a Commish died in a 200 dollar a man league. Do you even ask the grieving Widow for the Money or just consider it a donation ?
Thats an interesting scenario. I would donate the money to the widow in this case. Its too insensitive to ask her to care about your FF while this happened to her and her family. However, since the champion of the league ended up losing the most this year, he gets to play for free next year.
 
wow. i think the thing about the thread that is impacting me most is how many of you have had to deal with the loss of a friend (all at too young of ages). my thoughts go out to all of you and at the same time i'm reminding myself to be thankful that i haven't had to deal with the loss of a friend.

 
It's strange that this thread just came up. :)

A member of my league just died the other day. He was only 30 - married with a kid on the way.

I only met him a the drafts over the past few years. Seemed like a great guy. I really feel terrible about this. I can't help but think about the widow and the baby who will never meet his/her father. That tears me up the most.

We all have feelings on death and we all deal with them in our own way. Fantasy football is just a diversion from our real life. It's a way to escape from the everyday pressures and troubles that we all face to some degree or another. Maybe some of us may spend too much time in this fantasyland? I don't know. There can be no protocols or guidlines for dealing with a death of an owner.

Since this is a FF site:

I just barely edged him out for the total point lead. I found out about his death on Monday morning. We both had 1 player on MNF - I won by a slim margin. I didn't even want to watch the game. For most of us, we have been active in our teams and have been psyched about the playoffs, points lead, etc. I'm sure he was no different. He put together a great team. I will face his team in the semi-final this week. I think one of the other owners will take over his team. I don't even know if I want to continue with FF, but I think it would be wrong for us to cancel the remainder of the season. The best way for us to honor him (in reguards to our league) is to let his team continue. He drafted it and built it up. I even thought about forfeiting this week - or putting my bench players out there so he'd have an easy victory and move on to the finals. But I don't think that would be the best way to honor him. That wouldn't be right either.

Maybe the remaining members will get together and decide what to do, I don't know. But for once, in FF, I don't care if I win or lose. I am rooting for his team this week - as I am sure the rest of the league is.

 
Bring your guitar, sing at the funeral and dedicate one season with just 11 teams instead of 12.

I close my eyes

Only for a moment, then the momen't gone

All my dreams

Pass before my eyes, a curiosity

Dust in the wind

All they are is dust in the wind Same old song

Just a drop of water in an endless sea

All we do

Crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see

Dust in the wind

All we are is dust in the wind, ohh Now, don't hang on

Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky

It slips away

And all your money won't another minute buy

Dust in the wind

All we are is dust in the wind

All we are is dust in the wind Dust in the wind

Everything is dust in the wind

Everything is dust in the wind

The wind

 
You want to forget about ff but it is what ya need-a distraction. A number of us went to the funeral, sent a plant from the league and made a donation to a charity in his name. In addition, we are going to name our new traveling trophy after him. this is most ironic for he never won the championship. He usually picked crazy teams but had fun. thankfully he had no kids or wife left behind. next years draft will be void without him. Haven't others had this happen?
Just lost a player about a month ago. In his 30's with 2 young children. They are still serching for the puke that killed him. Very tough to give a damn about ff.... but ff is what brought us together in the first place. We have someone running the team for him and he's 1 game away from the championship. I think we are all pulling for his team and I hope he is watching.
 
A more serious topic than me screwing up the playoff seedings. We had an owner die two weeks ago in the league for 15+ years. He is in the toilet bowl (actually with a pretty good team) and i am managing it so taht is not a problem. I was just wondering if that has happened to others. I have not seen it posted anywhere before. How did you handle it? :rolleyes:
We had the same thing happen this year at the beginning of the season. :hophead: His kids were in the league also, so we asked them what they wanted to do. They said to get a replacement owner and let them play under his fee this year as long as it was an active owner. We also did a memorial for the family and it was kind of neat because the funeral home had an online guest book which all of the owners signed because we are spread across the country. Kind of wierd it happened to someone else also.Condolences to the family.
 
The Moz said:
How would you handle it if a Commish died in a 200 dollar a man league. Do you even ask the grieving Widow for the Money or just consider it a donation ?
Thats an interesting scenario. I would donate the money to the widow in this case. Its too insensitive to ask her to care about your FF while this happened to her and her family. However, since the champion of the league ended up losing the most this year, he gets to play for free next year.
This happened some years back. I got second place which was 500 bucks but I just sent the Widow a sympathy card and never ever even mentioned it either way. The person who won however - waited like 2 months after then sent a letter stating the situation and the widow sent him a check right away - He won 1000. Needless to say the draft the next year we all figured noone had had collected and I think the winner thought everyone did what he did anbd asked for the money. When we found out the guy was basically shunned into quitting the next season.

 
Vladislav Tretiak said:
Do us all a favor and just go play with the fork and the electrical outlet over there.
Wow, way to go and make it personal. The point was that there's more to life than fantasy football. Sorry you can't understand that.*REPORTED*
 
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I agree with the above sentiments however life does go on for the rest of us. We have an owner who was recently given only a few months to live due to cancer and I like the idea of naming the trophy after him or his team.

This is why our league has rule 24:

24.In the event that someone is not able to manage their team for any reason it is the owners responsibility to find someone who can manage their team for them. In the event that this is due to Hospitalization, family tragety or other extreme event, (Such events do NOT include: Cannot get to a computer, Vacation, business trip, etc. The determination of which event this is will be done by the commissioner) and the owner is unable to find a suitable manager for the team, The Commissioner will submit lineups for that team and use the recommendation Fantasy Sharks to determine who to start. There will be no waver wire transactions or Trades for this team and it will only be run for this period of time until the owner can return or a replacement can be found.

 
Happened to us in the offseason last year with a first year owner. After all these great suggestions, i'm kinda sad to think we didnt come up with any of them.

 
We had this happen in our Rotisserie Baseball league a few years ago. Our league is comprised of real-life friends, and most of us have grown up together and gone to grade school through high school together.

So when one of our friends died (at 33 years old) in the middle of the season, we all decided to "fold" our rosters and give him the championship that year.

We have a Championship plaque with the League name on it, and a plate for each champion (with team name, owner name, and year of championship). The plaque holds 24 plates.

The Champion gets to keep the plaque every year.

We actually re-named the plaque after our dear friend --- "The <Friend's Name> Award" --- like the Lombardi Trophy or the Larry O'Brien Championship Trophy. We donated the championship check and the plaque to his fiancée. She returned the plaque the following year so that we could continue to award it our new champions. We've played 6 seasons since his passing. But he's still a part of our league this way.

All the plates on the traveling trophy are gold with black engraving. The Plate for our friend's championship is black with silver engraving and an extra line reading "In memoriam".

_________

So, in your circumstance, I would do something similar. Declare your deceased friend the Champion. Donate the winnings ... or go out as a group and spend the money on pitchers of beer while you toast and reminisce about your friend.

 
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We had this happen this year in our league. He was a brother of an owner who had been in the league 2 yrs. It was his first year. We knew he was in the hospital and he had a friend lined up to draft for him. Then just before the draft we were informed he passed away. His friend agreed to take over the team and we put the draft on hold until his brother and the friend were ready to draft. I'm sure the draft was a decent distraction for them. I believe the commish also sent flowers or something.

 
It happened to my league last year. Right before week 2. 12 team league, about $2000 in the initial pot. Unanimous decision was to take the money and set up an education fund for his 2 kids.

We also took a vote to see if we wanted to redraft and start over with week 2 being our week 1. There was not a majority, so we did not do it. But most of us made weekly bets for dinner or cash to keep the league going. We upped the waiver costs and each week the high scorer got the money in the waiver pot. Ended being lot of fun. We toasted the our commrade every Monday Night when the previous weeks dinner bets were being honored.

 
Assuming that you all were friends and are in her local area, I'd probably try to get the agreement of all the other people in the league to help the widow whenever she needed something (whether home repairs, advice, or whatever) and then let the widow know that you all would be there for her if she needs anything.

Also, I'd try to get everyone to agree to donate the entire winnings of the league to her (or to a charity if she so wishes). The death of a person and the effect upon his or her family is incredibly more important than fantasy football. As far as the guy who contacted a widow to collect his fantasy football winnings (as noted in a prior post), he deserves several hard, fast, and severe kicks in his cojones.

 
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Family league, three years ago in Novmember, my dad died and he was a founding member of our league. I did his team for him and he road the likes of Drew Bennett and Billy Volek to the championship against my brother (beating me in the semifinals). In the finals we all gave my brother crap about how he should bench players and whatnot. He did not and won. Since then he has missed the playoffs every year this one included. We call it The Curse of Pops.

We didn't do anything really with money but I do wish we would have named the trophey after him. Heck, my last conversation with him on the night he died was about fantasy football. He was trying to swindle for Corey Dillion.

 
In the $100 & $150 leagues I commish I address this issue in the league bylaws. It sounds a little cold when you read it - but I just wanted to have a procedure in place the inevitable did occur. I'm a single guy & have more than enough life insurance to cover my funeral expenses. My remaining family members would not need the fantasy league money. In fact, if I did pass away - I would want the guys to battle it out without me and keep the money. A trophy named after me would be a nice thing though - & I'm sure I would appreciate that & give me a smile looking down from heaven or possibly in my case...up from Hell.

Here are rules from our league with the excusion of a few names:

Owner Tragedy

If an owner is hospitalized or is unable to manage his team due to health/personal issues the following action will occur.

(1) If he is able he can delegate anyone he wishes to run his team for him while he is unable to do so.

(2) If he is unable to delegate someone, the commissioner will contact his closest family member (wife,brother,etc.) and ask if they would like to delegate someone to run the owner's team for him. The same will take place if the owner passes.

(3) If the family is unable to be reached or doesn't want anything to do with fantasy football, or it would be inappropriate to approach the family about something so trivial as fantasy football during a family crisis, then the commissioner will appoint a different owner each week to select the sick/deceased owner's lineup for him. The owner selected will have the most to gain by the sick/deceased owner's team winning that game.

(4) If the owner is unable to return to managing his team due to terminal illness then the league will look into replacing the owner in the offseason.

(5) In case something would happen to the commish, the league will appoint someone to take over the commish duties. **** has the commish password for the website for updating the league graphics/layout. The new commish should get the password from **** in order to complete the commish duties. A member from the league should contact the comish's father about getting the league kitty in case the commish kicks off. The commish's father should be shown this website...which clearly states the commish's wish for the money to be payed out and the league to continue despite his untimely death and to the dissapointment of countless ladies.

 
VERY common theme here is to rename the league and/or league trophy. Again, not at all trying to stir the pot and I REALLY don't think it's a terrible idea in all cases, but just out of curiosity, what happens when the next league member dies?

Thousands of leagues out there, and if a 2nd league member passing hasn't happened already (I would be very surprised with the game's gaining popularity and with just the sampling we've had here), it certainly will at some point.

I can envision a time 30 or 40 years from now still involved with a few of leagues I am in. What if half of the original league members have passed on by then? There's only one league name, one "trophy name" (if any), and maybe a couple of divisions to name (which a lot of leagues don't do at all).

The other thing I will say is that if I die tomorrow (hang on, gonna go find some wood), I don't WANT my leagues to be named after me. They are a fun hobby, nothing more and nothing less. The last thing I want is for my surviving league mates to replace what might have been a pretty cool/entertaining league name we've had from the beginning with my lame (real) name.

I believe that all of the folks posting in here about changing their league's name to honor the passed league mate have absolutely the best intentions and just want to do right. I'm just not sure it's the absolute BEST thing to do in all circumstances.

 
We had somebody die in a league I am in. We renamed one of the divisions in his honor.
It's a very nice sentiment, DC. And I apologize in advance for finding anything remotely comedic in a thread like this, but this one struck me as funny. Just picturing how the divisions look on your league page: "East, West, McKenzie" :cry:
 
VERY common theme here is to rename the league and/or league trophy. Again, not at all trying to stir the pot and I REALLY don't think it's a terrible idea in all cases, but just out of curiosity, what happens when the next league member dies?Thousands of leagues out there, and if a 2nd league member passing hasn't happened already (I would be very surprised with the game's gaining popularity and with just the sampling we've had here), it certainly will at some point.I can envision a time 30 or 40 years from now still involved with a few of leagues I am in. What if half of the original league members have passed on by then? There's only one league name, one "trophy name" (if any), and maybe a couple of divisions to name (which a lot of leagues don't do at all).The other thing I will say is that if I die tomorrow (hang on, gonna go find some wood), I don't WANT my leagues to be named after me. They are a fun hobby, nothing more and nothing less. The last thing I want is for my surviving league mates to replace what might have been a pretty cool/entertaining league name we've had from the beginning with my lame (real) name.I believe that all of the folks posting in here about changing their league's name to honor the passed league mate have absolutely the best intentions and just want to do right. I'm just not sure it's the absolute BEST thing to do in all circumstances.
I say getting together once a year and celebrating the memory of a passed league member is a better idea than naming a trophy after him. :coffee: :coffee: :cry: :clap: :banned:
 
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