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Denarius Moore - CIncinnatti Bengals (1 Viewer)

We go through this every year don't we? Every season members of the media hype up one player that Was taken late in the hopes that he comes out of nowhere and performs in the mold of Marques Colston (7th rnd pick). Havent we learned by now not to latch onto these players? Does the name Victor Cruz mean anything to you? Denarius Moore has next to no chance of being fantasy relevant if he was on a good passing team, so what makes you think that he'll be relevant on a bad fantasy team? Come on. These media members are always on the lookout for the next greatest thing so they can say that they were the first to report about it. Don't fall into the trap! Denarius Moore is not draftable in any redraft league. You're better off just forgetting he exists.
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Good points. I love moore. but when folks say finally a raiders WR who is not just fast but good. they forget Ford. And on top of that have a look at last years Ford threads. people were saying exactly the same things about Ford. "Finally a raiders WR who can catch" and he looked pretty darn good when he played. Everything being said about Moore now was said about Ford last year. I cant say Moore is a better WR then Ford. I personally thiunk Ford is going to be a star in this league. But I know Moore is pretty darn good. Again wish they both had a better QB then Cambell who limits both of them. He may not be as bad as Travaris Jackson but hes not that much beter.

As for the hype was not the same , read these threads from last year. He was called the new Miles Austin. Hes Deshaun Jackson. He has the best hands a raiders WR has had in years, Hes fearless over the middle. Hes a Beast. And folks were starting him over #1 options. These threads are exactly the same as the Moore threads.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=569066&st=0&p=12543366&hl=ford&fromsearch=1entry12543366

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=578379&st=0&p=12738647&hl=ford&fromsearch=1entry12738647

Not trying to pick on you, but just a few points:

Jason Campbell >>>> Tavaris Jackson - yes Campbell may not be a stud QB - but he has shown to be servicable.

No one is forgetting about Ford - but he IS injured, and a speed WR with a bad hammy is a bad combination. Secondly, talent wise Moore > Ford - many people (including those who cover the Raiders on a regular basis) have said as much. Everything Ford does, Moore does better. Moore is just as fast, has great hands and battles for the ball in traffic at least as well as Ford does and Moore is 3" taller. Third, I disagree that Ford was Moore last year. Yes he had some hype - but his first 2 games he put up 4 catches for 37 yards. His break out (and only 1 of his 2 - 100+ yard games out of 9) was against KC - not against a good Bills passing defense. Ford was inconsistant at best - of his 9 games he had 7 that he caught 3 passes or less and all 7 went for under 50 yards. Certainly we cant annoint Moore the best WR on the team (although some who cover the Raiders have) or the #1WR for Oakland after just 1 game - but it appears clear that he has the talent to be an excellent NFL WR.

Ford will likely be a starter upon his return - but that doesn't mean he will automatically be 100% healthy, nor does it mean he will automatically get the lion's share of looks - especially if Moore continue to prove himself to be a play maker.

Yes, I would grab Ford if he were cut in most leagues - but not because I think he will necessarily be better than Moore when he gets back on the field. Ford had 25 receptions in 9 game last year - that's it. That's less than 3 per game. Ford is hardly an entrenched veteran WR1. IMHO, we are looking at 1A and 1B - and Ford is the B...when his hamstring heals.

 
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I made a trade for Moore in third week or so of the preseason for my dynasty team. He was drafted in the 4th rd of our rookie draft and for some insane reason, I was able to get him for a 2012 4th rd rookie pick. It was pretty evident that he was getting a good amount of hype at that time and I was all over him at that insanely low price.

In a 12 team redraft league where we start 3 wr and a flex, I did not draft Moore, but did draft Jacoby Ford. I picked up Moore from the WW this week after his week 2 coming out party. FWIW, I dropped Ford to pick up Rex Grossman as I have Romo and would like to roll the dice on starting Romo this Monday night instead of having to bench him for Freeman v. Atlanta. In thinking of making the Grossman move, I conclude that there is no drop off in Ford to Moore, essentially deciding that Moore > Ford and is the up and coming young WR to own from the Raiders even in redrafts.

 
We go through this every year don't we? Every season members of the media hype up one player that Was taken late in the hopes that he comes out of nowhere and performs in the mold of Marques Colston (7th rnd pick). Havent we learned by now not to latch onto these players? Does the name Victor Cruz mean anything to you? Denarius Moore has next to no chance of being fantasy relevant if he was on a good passing team, so what makes you think that he'll be relevant on a bad fantasy team? Come on. These media members are always on the lookout for the next greatest thing so they can say that they were the first to report about it. Don't fall into the trap! Denarius Moore is not draftable in any redraft league. You're better off just forgetting he exists.
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Those of you who don't start him this week simply because of the Jets will regret it.Why do you pickup a guy who had a huge week, only to believe the trend won't continue?

I had a dream last night. He catches five passed for 114 yards, including a 26-yard score, with Revis on him for most of the game.
This is definitely within the realm of possibility.
Because we bench proven, elite WRs against Revis, and we realize that 1 good week does not make a trend. Look, I'm all over D-WOW for the year, but a matchup against the Jets is never a good thing for WRs, especially ones that are likely to see Revis.If he performs well, I won't kick myself for not starting him, I'll probably jizz my pants in anticipation of the rest of the season.
 
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If he has Revis on him and performs well that would be a terriffic sign. we already know he has talent. Something like that would say something else.

 
i just sent Moore for beanie wells - moore was sitting behind calvin, nicks, holmes, and j. jones - so i figured why not - i like him a lot, just team need made it an easy decision - maybe moore is a stud, maybe he isn't -

 
Those of you who don't start him this week simply because of the Jets will regret it.Why do you pickup a guy who had a huge week, only to believe the trend won't continue?

I had a dream last night. He catches five passed for 114 yards, including a 26-yard score, with Revis on him for most of the game.
This is definitely within the realm of possibility.
I'm on the Moore train as much as anyone, but do you realize that if he put up those numbers, those numbers would be better than any receiver has put up against Revis in 3 years, and that list includes just about every elite receiver in the NFL. Moore is certainly a good player, but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. On the other hand, I could certainly see him putting up great numbers if Revis isn't guarding him. We'll have to see what the Jets game plan is.
 
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Seriously considering him as a flex play in PPR. My regular flex Felix Jones is hitting the pine as he's already hurt. I have to choose between Burleson, who has been solid so far, and D-WOW. Burleson is the safer play, while D-WOW is the swing for the fences play. Will probably waffle back and forth until kickoff.

 
Gawd the expectations in here are crazy. Kid's a potential stud-in-the-making, but he ain't doing squat against Revis if matched-up.

 
Good interview with Denarius:

9/23: Moore interview

Some good insight regarding his hurdling and basketball experience helping his jumping technique as a WR. And that he struggled with three head coaches and two offensive systems at Tennessee, but that ultimately it was a blessing b/c the last two years they ran the same offense as the Raiders do now. Plus constant change in coaches required him to take on a "prove it to them" attitude that he carries even now thanks to his 5th round draft position.

This radio channel's website seems to have some good Raider and Niner interviews:

95.7 The Game

 
how many yards will Campbell throw for? 150? 200? They ought to be playing from behind. Assuming McFadden gets 60-80, wouldn't the rest go to Moore? Who else are they going to go to?

 
Does anyone know for sure if revis will be covering Moore this week?
No. And no one could have any way of knowing. Either way, the Jets D doesn't seem like a good play for Moore anyway. With so many QBs whipping it around this year, I find it hard to believe that most people can't find a juicier matchup.
 
Does anyone know for sure if revis will be covering Moore this week?
No. And no one could have any way of knowing. Either way, the Jets D doesn't seem like a good play for Moore anyway. With so many QBs whipping it around this year, I find it hard to believe that most people can't find a juicier matchup.
:goodposting: On occasion Rex will reveal who Revis will be covering, but he hasn't yet. I would guess that Revis will be on Moore for the majority of the time because it seems clear that Moore is so much better than DHB, but that's just speculation on my part.
 
Odds are he plays Moore. I doubt they would waste there time on anyone else. If ofcourse say a Hagan or DHB is having a field day ten maybe they move him off Moore but otherwise the only passing threat for the Raiders with Ford out is Moore.

 
I am not on the Moore train and I am skeptical of him, though he was one of the 3 WR's I picked up this last week. If he goes off this week I will make sure he has a more solid spot on my roster.

 
Rex Ryan is no fool. And he's watching even better tape than you and I. It's either going to be Cromartie with safety help or Revis mano a mano all day. Either way that's a tough match up for anyone, let alone a rookie. I still think he has it in him to pluck at least one deep ball on Revis. Hops, hands and body control are elite level on this skinny rookie. But Revis is the best in the business, and the Jets are an overall good/great defense, so like others have stated, probably better to play wait and see this week with Moore, unless you're desperate for a WR or flex.

 
I am not on the Moore train and I am skeptical of him, though he was one of the 3 WR's I picked up this last week. If he goes off this week I will make sure he has a more solid spot on my roster.
People should be skeptical, he was a late round pick, playing for a team with a below average passing game. But......Campbell has looked the best he has in his unremarkable career, in the same offense for more than a year-ever. The preseason talk from the beat writers was unprecedented, and in his second game, he showed some serious stuff. No one should get ahead of themselves, but so far, so good.
 
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Those of you who don't start him this week simply because of the Jets will regret it.

Why do you pickup a guy who had a huge week, only to believe the trend won't continue?

I had a dream last night. He catches five passed for 114 yards, including a 26-yard score, with Revis on him for most of the game.
This is definitely within the realm of possibility.
Because we bench proven, elite WRs against Revis, and we realize that 1 good week does not make a trend. Look, I'm all over D-WOW for the year, but a matchup against the Jets is never a good thing for WRs, especially ones that are likely to see Revis.If he performs well, I won't kick myself for not starting him, I'll probably jizz my pants in anticipation of the rest of the season.
This. I'm starting Roddy, DJax and Wayne over Moore this week...then the DWow train is rolling out...wOOt! wOOt!!1!
 
If he performs well, I won't kick myself for not starting him, I'll probably jizz my pants in anticipation of the rest of the season.

This. I'm starting Roddy, DJax and Wayne over Moore this week...then the DWow train is rolling out...wOOt! wOOt!!1!

I'm starting Brandon Marshall, D-Jax, and Santana Moss over Moore this week, but next week I really want to roll the dice on Moore.

 
I am in two leagues. Have Moore in both. Starting him in one, where I have few/no better options.

In one, we start two WR. I'm starting Steve Smith and (Brandon Lloyd or Tampa Mike Williams) ahead of him, depending on Lloys health.

In the other, we start three WR and there are two flex. In that league I am starting him, but it's kind of a no brainer. Only significant players I'm benching for him are Jacoby Ford (inj), Jabar Gaffney, and Jeff King. Doesn't take cajones to start Moore ahead of those guys.

 
I am in two leagues. Have Moore in both. Starting him in one, where I have few/no better options.In one, we start two WR. I'm starting Steve Smith and (Brandon Lloyd or Tampa Mike Williams) ahead of him, depending on Lloys health.In the other, we start three WR and there are two flex. In that league I am starting him, but it's kind of a no brainer. Only significant players I'm benching for him are Jacoby Ford (inj), Jabar Gaffney, and Jeff King. Doesn't take cajones to start Moore ahead of those guys.
I have no choice to D.Moore despite the tough Jets D matchup. starting him over Manningham (sigh) and Knox (i'm still patiently waiting for his breakout)... Hoping he and Vjax and keep me competitive. But boy will I be happy if D.Moore follows through with a good performance.. then this train is full steam ahead.. whoo!
 
Those of you who don't start him this week simply because of the Jets will regret it.Why do you pickup a guy who had a huge week, only to believe the trend won't continue?

I had a dream last night. He catches five passed for 114 yards, including a 26-yard score, with Revis on him for most of the game.
This is definitely within the realm of possibility.
Because we bench proven, elite WRs against Revis, and we realize that 1 good week does not make a trend. Look, I'm all over D-WOW for the year, but a matchup against the Jets is never a good thing for WRs, especially ones that are likely to see Revis.If he performs well, I won't kick myself for not starting him, I'll probably jizz my pants in anticipation of the rest of the season.
Starting AJ, Holmes, and Moss this week. Would love to see D-Wow get his....probably won't jizz either way.
 
Until now, I didn't believe it when others said it, but Denarius really did catch the ball at the end of last week's game. Proof is at the end of this video. There are two replays that I hadn't seen anywhere else that clearly show that both Moore and the Bills DB came down with the ball in the end zone together. Tie goes to the WR. See for yourself. Fast fwd to the 5:30 to see the two angles that reveal this truth.

Raider/Bills Highlights - Moore ThanEnuff

Had this call been made correctly last week's stat line for Denarius would've been a whopping 6/198/2.

Just a hypothetical obviously, but had it been so, would that have changed your mind about whether or not you'd start him this week against Revis?

 
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Until now, I didn't believe it when others said it, but Denarius really did catch the ball at the end of last week's game. Proof is at the end of this video. There are two replays that I hadn't seen anywhere else that clearly show that both Moore and the Bills DB came down with the ball in the end zone together. Tie goes to the WR. See for yourself. Fast fwd to the 5:30 to see the two angles that reveal this truth.

Raider/Bills Highlights - Moore ThanEnuff

Had this call been made correctly last week's stat line for Denarius would've been a whopping 6/198/2.

Just a hypothetical obviously, but had it been so, would that have changed your mind about whether or not you'd start him this week against Revis?
That video is showing Bills DB catching the ball with both hands, then Moore sticking one hand in there to try and rip the ball away, that's an interception by rule...
 
That does still look like an INT at the end. But I do think the fact that the ref spotted the ball almost a yard away from the marker and calls for a measurement when the Bills have no timeouts and 4th and 1, was fishy. It gave them an extra timeout and 5 minutes of real time to draw up that game winning throw to Nelson. I wonder if it had been the Raiders in the same position, would the refs keep the clock going?

 
Here is the thing as a Jets fan I know very well that Revis' only weakness is smaller wrs. He cant put his hands on them, and he has to give them room. He isnt slow by any means, but he is built to play the big strong downfield speed wrs, not guys that can cut all over the field. The Jets would be silly to play Revis against him. I see them doing a real good job of putting him against Cromartie. Cro can stay with him downfield and still get on top of deep balls. If Revis is on him all day I expect 1 big play. Not to mention Jets Safeties are a bit banged up and neither are amazing cover safeties, but the both are good.

Remember this all year though, safeties will have to worry about Mcfadden all year, as long as he is healthy. That is how we will see Moore get the deep balls. I am sitting him this week in favor of DNelson tho.

 
Until now, I didn't believe it when others said it, but Denarius really did catch the ball at the end of last week's game. Proof is at the end of this video. There are two replays that I hadn't seen anywhere else that clearly show that both Moore and the Bills DB came down with the ball in the end zone together. Tie goes to the WR. See for yourself. Fast fwd to the 5:30 to see the two angles that reveal this truth.

Raider/Bills Highlights - Moore ThanEnuff

Had this call been made correctly last week's stat line for Denarius would've been a whopping 6/198/2.

Just a hypothetical obviously, but had it been so, would that have changed your mind about whether or not you'd start him this week against Revis?
Indeed. There would have been no possible way that I got him off waivers this week (after cutting him after week one).Despite Moore's great Week 2 performance, he only raised eyebrows in fantasy circles. In the major media and the casual fantasy media, Moore was barelky a story this past week. CBS Fantasy had stories about hot waiver pickups that focused on LaFell and Decker and completely ignored Moore.

Had he been ruled to have made that catch, his star would have shone brighter, and that would have gone into the Top 10 plays.

Oh, and don't forget the 25 rushing yards.

 
With the Hillis strep throat news, its either DMoore, MSW or Little for me.

I'm currently leaning towards Moore, but very nervous. I also am relying on Dez Bryant & Decker already, so a lot of gambling going on this week. May as well go "all-in" with Moore and just hope everyone plays and puts up some kind of good game.

 
He showed amazing body control twisting in the air and reaching out to get the TD by the nose of the ball before going down.

 
Don't you hate it when people sayI TOLD YA
Not really seeing this, unless you predicted he would have a rushing TD. People who recommended sitting him this week said that the Jets D would be a bad matchup for him. He had 4 catches for 34 yards. The logic for sitting him was sound, and he'll certainly be worth starting moving forward.
 
In general, I think Moore is going to be the example where you go with the talent, and not the situation. Because situations change. The Raiders situation might not be as bad as people were thinking.

This team scores points. Campbell has been a calm game manager since the preseason. He looks light years better. He is not a good deep passer, but he can get it to Denarius on the move, and with that running game, he will get some clean deep looks. Man, wait till Ford is healthy. :unsure:

 
I think the big takeaway from this game is the maturation of Jason Campbell. His ability to take shot downfield, coupled with an unstoppable run game, are going to make Denarius Moore a permanent fixture in fantasy lineups. Bench him at your own risk. He's a star/playmaker and those guys make their own luck.

 
I benched him this week due to the match up but watched with great interest. His total stats were modest but he had those at the half and then the Raiders did what it is they do, control the game on the ground. I was acutally pretty impressed with his numbers considering the game situation, then factor in that they made a point to get the ball in his hands on the ground and I am very happy with the performance. He is for real.

 
Two of Cromartie's four pass interference penalties (maybe one/more were just illegal contact?) were while defending Denarius Moore.

 
Two of Cromartie's four pass interference penalties (maybe one/more were just illegal contact?) were while defending Denarius Moore.
Yep. His impact on games is HUGE. And this was the Jets, every team left on the schedule is easier now. Not sure he'll leave my starting lineup from here on out.
 

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