Denarius Moore - CIncinnatti Bengals (2 Viewers)

[damageinc]

No but I think I read that they have a place in canton for Torrey Smith already. They removed the plaque for Ben Tate.

Damn, that's harsh. At least you didn't say that Ingram won't be in the HOF.

 

[DoubleG]

I said it a few times. Last year at this time these threads were about Ford. Go back and look. "Ford is a special Talent". "HEs a Stud". etc etc. ANd you cant say he has 492 yards in 17 games. he was not a starter or playing WR until week 10. and he blew up when he played that game. He also has these 30-50 yard reverses for TD's like Moore. Ford is what 5-8 and Moore 6 feet. there both around the same size. I think moore is really a great WR but Ford is just as good . If I had to take one I would take Ford before I took Moore. Again love moore and think he will have some blowup weeks but the folks here need to read the Ben Tate threads (hes the #1 RB) and the Lance Kendrickson threads (He will be a top 3 TE) before we start claiming a guy is a top 15-20 WR . And now it seems that Torrey Smith is the best WR in the NFL. Guess Moore is yesterdays news.

Your "facts" are wrong. Ford's Game Log For 2010First off, Ford was playing WR in week 7 (when he had 2 receptions for 15 yards) - I'll give you a mulligan for week 4 when he recorded a an 8 yard rush (which didn't go for a TD). Secondly he started in week 8 - and posted another 2 reception game for 22 yards. Then he blew up in week 9...against KC. Thirdly, you mentioned "these 30-50 yard reverses for TD's like Moore" - except that Ford had only 2 rushing TDs - and one was 13 yards. Ford started 9 games in 2010 - and averaged about 50 yards receiving over that span and had 2 receiving TDs. In fact in 7 of those 9 starts, Ford had under 50 yards receiving and 3 or less receptions. Oh and btw, I'm 5' 8" - my brothers are both 5' 11" - no one considers us "about the same size."

Is there a lot of hype surrounding Moore? Yep. Was there a lot of hype around Kendricks, Ingram, and now T. Smith and probably even Victor Cruz? Sure. But there was also a lot of hype surrounding Fitz, Calvin, Randy Moss, AJ, etc. Sometimes where this is smoke, there actually IS fire.

 

[bumpman]

I said it a few times. Last year at this time these threads were about Ford. Go back and look. "Ford is a special Talent". "HEs a Stud". etc etc. ANd you cant say he has 492 yards in 17 games. he was not a starter or playing WR until week 10. and he blew up when he played that game. He also has these 30-50 yard reverses for TD's like Moore. Ford is what 5-8 and Moore 6 feet. there both around the same size. I think moore is really a great WR but Ford is just as good . If I had to take one I would take Ford before I took Moore. Again love moore and think he will have some blowup weeks but the folks here need to read the Ben Tate threads (hes the #1 RB) and the Lance Kendrickson threads (He will be a top 3 TE) before we start claiming a guy is a top 15-20 WR . And now it seems that Torrey Smith is the best WR in the NFL. Guess Moore is yesterdays news.

What impact will Ford have when he returns in Wk 4? Roto is saying Ford will lead OAK WR from Wk 4 and on.

I have no idea but for some unknown reason everyone is acting like Ford is the reincarnation of Prime Jerry Rice instead of a midget with 492 rec yds in 17 games

Have you watched Ford's big games last year? He does exactly what everyone is drooling over Moore doing in here, skills-wise, but he's faster.

While your point is fair, your facts are little off. Jacoby Ford was playing WR on the Raiders well before his blowup in the KC game last year. He practiced as a WR during training camp from the get go and started getting in-game targets as early as Week 6. One of the reasons he didn't get in at WR earlier was because he had somewhat of a reputation for having suspect hands. In any event, Ford finished the last five games of last year with only nine receptions. He is electric, no doubt, but I've never been convinced he could be a #1. There is a world of difference between 5'8 and 6'0 for a WR. Four inches is a giant size difference when you are talking about going up for the ball.

 

[benm3218]

I said it a few times. Last year at this time these threads were about Ford. Go back and look. "Ford is a special Talent". "HEs a Stud". etc etc. ANd you cant say he has 492 yards in 17 games. he was not a starter or playing WR until week 10. and he blew up when he played that game. He also has these 30-50 yard reverses for TD's like Moore. Ford is what 5-8 and Moore 6 feet. there both around the same size. I think moore is really a great WR but Ford is just as good . If I had to take one I would take Ford before I took Moore. Again love moore and think he will have some blowup weeks but the folks here need to read the Ben Tate threads (hes the #1 RB) and the Lance Kendrickson threads (He will be a top 3 TE) before we start claiming a guy is a top 15-20 WR . And now it seems that Torrey Smith is the best WR in the NFL. Guess Moore is yesterdays news.

Your "facts" are wrong. Ford's Game Log For 2010First off, Ford was playing WR in week 7 (when he had 2 receptions for 15 yards) - I'll give you a mulligan for week 4 when he recorded a an 8 yard rush (which didn't go for a TD). Secondly he started in week 8 - and posted another 2 reception game for 22 yards. Then he blew up in week 9...against KC. Thirdly, you mentioned "these 30-50 yard reverses for TD's like Moore" - except that Ford had only 2 rushing TDs - and one was 13 yards. Ford started 9 games in 2010 - and averaged about 50 yards receiving over that span and had 2 receiving TDs. In fact in 7 of those 9 starts, Ford had under 50 yards receiving and 3 or less receptions. Oh and btw, I'm 5' 8" - my brothers are both 5' 11" - no one considers us "about the same size."

Is there a lot of hype surrounding Moore? Yep. Was there a lot of hype around Kendricks, Ingram, and now T. Smith and probably even Victor Cruz? Sure. But there was also a lot of hype surrounding Fitz, Calvin, Randy Moss, AJ, etc. Sometimes where this is smoke, there actually IS fire.

Magnificent response sir.

 

[Road Warriors]

I said it a few times. Last year at this time these threads were about Ford. Go back and look. "Ford is a special Talent". "HEs a Stud". etc etc. ANd you cant say he has 492 yards in 17 games. he was not a starter or playing WR until week 10. and he blew up when he played that game. He also has these 30-50 yard reverses for TD's like Moore. Ford is what 5-8 and Moore 6 feet. there both around the same size. I think moore is really a great WR but Ford is just as good . If I had to take one I would take Ford before I took Moore. Again love moore and think he will have some blowup weeks but the folks here need to read the Ben Tate threads (hes the #1 RB) and the Lance Kendrickson threads (He will be a top 3 TE) before we start claiming a guy is a top 15-20 WR . And now it seems that Torrey Smith is the best WR in the NFL. Guess Moore is yesterdays news.

Your "facts" are wrong. Ford's Game Log For 2010First off, Ford was playing WR in week 7 (when he had 2 receptions for 15 yards) - I'll give you a mulligan for week 4 when he recorded a an 8 yard rush (which didn't go for a TD). Secondly he started in week 8 - and posted another 2 reception game for 22 yards. Then he blew up in week 9...against KC. Thirdly, you mentioned "these 30-50 yard reverses for TD's like Moore" - except that Ford had only 2 rushing TDs - and one was 13 yards. Ford started 9 games in 2010 - and averaged about 50 yards receiving over that span and had 2 receiving TDs. In fact in 7 of those 9 starts, Ford had under 50 yards receiving and 3 or less receptions. Oh and btw, I'm 5' 8" - my brothers are both 5' 11" - no one considers us "about the same size."

Is there a lot of hype surrounding Moore? Yep. Was there a lot of hype around Kendricks, Ingram, and now T. Smith and probably even Victor Cruz? Sure. But there was also a lot of hype surrounding Fitz, Calvin, Randy Moss, AJ, etc. Sometimes where this is smoke, there actually IS fire.

All the guys you mention as having hype were highly productive, highly touted, highly drafted "can't miss" prospects. Of course they had hype. It doesn't translate well to Moore's situation, who I do think could be the real deal.

The problem is so many FF players want to make the call on the diamond in the rough, so the speculation when an unheralded player starts to have opportunity goes way over the top.

That said, NFL front offices sometimes miss guys, and from what little I've seen, Moore may be one of them. Body control, hands, and a certain "MINE" mentality when the ball is in the air are skills that you don't generally teach. He has the look of a productive NFL WR. I bought in the draft, I don't expect he's a world-beater, but he's looking better than a lot of guys drafted ahead of him, and he is looking like he'll get some opportunities to produce. I'll take that from a back of the draft / WW guy any time.

 

[Dought Man]

I said it a few times. Last year at this time these threads were about Ford. Go back and look. "Ford is a special Talent". "HEs a Stud". etc etc. ANd you cant say he has 492 yards in 17 games. he was not a starter or playing WR until week 10. and he blew up when he played that game. He also has these 30-50 yard reverses for TD's like Moore. Ford is what 5-8 and Moore 6 feet. there both around the same size. I think moore is really a great WR but Ford is just as good . If I had to take one I would take Ford before I took Moore. Again love moore and think he will have some blowup weeks but the folks here need to read the Ben Tate threads (hes the #1 RB) and the Lance Kendrickson threads (He will be a top 3 TE) before we start claiming a guy is a top 15-20 WR . And now it seems that Torrey Smith is the best WR in the NFL. Guess Moore is yesterdays news.

What impact will Ford have when he returns in Wk 4? Roto is saying Ford will lead OAK WR from Wk 4 and on.

I have no idea but for some unknown reason everyone is acting like Ford is the reincarnation of Prime Jerry Rice instead of a midget with 492 rec yds in 17 games

Have you watched Ford's big games last year? He does exactly what everyone is drooling over Moore doing in here, skills-wise, but he's faster.

There you go again, being reasonable. On this site, if you are a rookie and have one big game...you are the greatest ever!!! There is no middle ground here.

 

[damageinc]

Again I like moore, not a hater . I think he will be a good WR. Expect big things. Just want to clear that up. I had the option of picking him up but did not so I am not saying anyhting because I did not get him. I have Ford so I passed on the raiders #2 WR. He should be owned in all leagues and started as a #3 most weeks.

OK now I need to figure out how I can get the 2 new Hall of famers Cruz and Torrey Smith on my team.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I drafted Ford as my 5th WR and picked up Moore last week.

 

[Disco Stu]

Four inches is a giant size difference

That's what she said.

 

[DoubleG]

I said it a few times. Last year at this time these threads were about Ford. Go back and look. "Ford is a special Talent". "HEs a Stud". etc etc. ANd you cant say he has 492 yards in 17 games. he was not a starter or playing WR until week 10. and he blew up when he played that game. He also has these 30-50 yard reverses for TD's like Moore. Ford is what 5-8 and Moore 6 feet. there both around the same size. I think moore is really a great WR but Ford is just as good . If I had to take one I would take Ford before I took Moore. Again love moore and think he will have some blowup weeks but the folks here need to read the Ben Tate threads (hes the #1 RB) and the Lance Kendrickson threads (He will be a top 3 TE) before we start claiming a guy is a top 15-20 WR . And now it seems that Torrey Smith is the best WR in the NFL. Guess Moore is yesterdays news.

What impact will Ford have when he returns in Wk 4? Roto is saying Ford will lead OAK WR from Wk 4 and on.

I have no idea but for some unknown reason everyone is acting like Ford is the reincarnation of Prime Jerry Rice instead of a midget with 492 rec yds in 17 games

Have you watched Ford's big games last year? He does exactly what everyone is drooling over Moore doing in here, skills-wise, but he's faster.

There you go again, being reasonable. On this site, if you are a rookie and have one big game...you are the greatest ever!!! There is no middle ground here.

No one is calling him the best ever - some are simply suggesting that he is better than Ford, which would make him the #1 WR on the Raiders - which gives him some decent fantasy value. Value which likely exceeds where he was drafted (moreso if he was a WW acquisition). And it's no more "reasonable" to put words in other people's mouths than argue against a grossly misrepresented and exaggerated point that no one ever made.

And for those accusing Moore owners of touting him over Ford, it was the beat writers for the Raiders that noted back in the preseason that Moore was the "most talented WR on the team". Many other Raider coaches have hinted at as much (although, obviously can't some right out and say it) - look through this thread for their quotes.

 

[Disco Stu]

Moore will be a top 25 option this week at home vs NE. Pats giving up passing yards by the boatload, Oak will clearly have to score to keep up, and DMC may (or may not) be limited with a groin.Beast mode.

 

[FavreCo]

What impact will Ford have when he returns in Wk 4? Roto is saying Ford will lead OAK WR from Wk 4 and on.

I have no idea but for some unknown reason everyone is acting like Ford is the reincarnation of Prime Jerry Rice instead of a midget with 492 rec yds in 17 games

Have you watched Ford's big games last year? He does exactly what everyone is drooling over Moore doing in here, skills-wise, but he's faster.

Never seen Ford sky above 2 defenders for a catch. N-E-V-E-R. He can't. He's a midget. He's good, but he's below Moore's skillset.

 

[mr roboto]

What impact will Ford have when he returns in Wk 4? Roto is saying Ford will lead OAK WR from Wk 4 and on.

I have no idea but for some unknown reason everyone is acting like Ford is the reincarnation of Prime Jerry Rice instead of a midget with 492 rec yds in 17 games

Have you watched Ford's big games last year? He does exactly what everyone is drooling over Moore doing in here, skills-wise, but he's faster.

Never seen Ford sky above 2 defenders for a catch. N-E-V-E-R. He can't. He's a midget. He's good, but he's below Moore's skillset.

I didn't get this comment either. They are not the same.Ford is a speedster. He isn't gonna haul down that TD over 2 defenders and wrestle the ball down from them.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

What impact will Ford have when he returns in Wk 4? Roto is saying Ford will lead OAK WR from Wk 4 and on.

I have no idea but for some unknown reason everyone is acting like Ford is the reincarnation of Prime Jerry Rice instead of a midget with 492 rec yds in 17 games

Have you watched Ford's big games last year? He does exactly what everyone is drooling over Moore doing in here, skills-wise, but he's faster.

Never seen Ford sky above 2 defenders for a catch. N-E-V-E-R. He can't. He's a midget. He's good, but he's below Moore's skillset.

I didn't get this comment either. They are not the same.Ford is a speedster. He isn't gonna haul down that TD over 2 defenders and wrestle the ball down from them.

Ford, in his breakout games last year, made some ridiculous down-field plucking circus-catches look routine. He embarrassed Flowers, as well.

 

[damageinc]

Wow how fast people forget . Ford made some incredible catches over his defenders head who was alot taller then he is. Again Moore and Ford are exactly alike except the 4 inches. Both are very good WR's. People realize I hope that Ford is the same size as Deshaun Jackson and as fast .

Have a read of this thread from 1 year ago. Basically this thread but its about Ford.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=569066&st=0&p=12543366&hl=ford&fromsearch=1entry12543366

ALso this is a quote from that thread about Ford. Sounds just likes the Moore stuff

A couple of the catches he made were ridiculous, including a clutch grab late when he went kind of around and over the top of the defender and basically took the ball away, adjusted, and turned upfield and picked up extra yards

 

[LawFitz]

In general, I think Moore is going to be the example where you go with the talent, and not the situation. Because situations change. The Raiders situation might not be as bad as people were thinking. This team scores points. Campbell has been a calm game manager since the preseason. He looks light years better. He is not a good deep passer, but he can get it to Denarius on the move, and with that running game, he will get some clean deep looks. Man, wait till Ford is healthy.

And eventhough the situation was not ideal, he did have Opportunity because there was no established star receiver. He looks the real deal. I still think he will have up and down games this year, but long term, he looks like a star to me.

But I thought you said no Raiders WR would have any value?

 

[Eastwood]

Remember Holt and Bruce in their prime? Hello Ford and Moore

 

[Dan Lambskin]

i'm predicting 9/180/3 this week

 

[shnikies]

All I know is Moore should be in almost every lineup next week against the Patriots, but that's more a testament to how awful the patriots pass defense it.

 

[damageinc]

Exactly. I think both these guys are going to be stars. Tough to figure out who will be "Stastically" the better of the two.

Remember Holt and Bruce in their prime? Hello Ford and Moore

 

[mr roboto]

Remember Holt and Bruce in their prime? Hello Ford and Moore

Just a TAD different at QB.

 

[We Tigers]

There's no reason Ford and Moore can't both be successful. I think they actually complement each other really well. They're the starting receivers Oakland's been looking for since...what, 2003? I think a smart setup has Ford at one spot and Moore the other, with Ford moving to the slot when they go to three receivers.

 

[damageinc]

I believe they play different positions / Moore plays the X position same as DHB . They rotated in the Jets game. Thats I dont understand. DHB has been brutally bad. Moore has shown hes a player. If they start Ford and DHB over Ford and Moore the Raiders are officially nutz.

 

[shnikies]

I believe they play different positions / Moore plays the X position same as DHB . They rotated in the Jets game. Thats I dont understand. DHB has been brutally bad. Moore has shown hes a player. If they start Ford and DHB over Ford and Moore the Raiders are officially nutz.

The Raiders are already officially nuts and it's fairly likely they play DHB over Moore. Al Davis is the still the owner.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I believe they play different positions / Moore plays the X position same as DHB . They rotated in the Jets game. Thats I dont understand. DHB has been brutally bad. Moore has shown hes a player. If they start Ford and DHB over Ford and Moore the Raiders are officially nutz.

The Raiders are already officially nuts and it's fairly likely they play DHB over Moore. Al Davis is the still the owner.

You aren't seeing the master plan. DHB is an excellent downfield blocker, and they just added Kevin Boss who threw a key block that sprung McFadden on that 70 yard TD run. They are still a team that wants to dominate running the ball. They had 10 first down conversions on the Jets on 2nd down. That tells you that they ran it down the Jets throats at will. It softens the defense, and sets up Moore to come in and burn the defense up top. Who cares if Moore is the snap 1 starter? If he gets 8-10 targets anyway, would you still be pleased? Moore stats come in the flow and gameplan of WINNING football games. Take a break from your fantasy football world and realize there is a master plan. The coaches don't care a whit about your fantasy teams. But when the game plan is executed correctly, the Raiders set up personnel mismatches all over the field. Moore will definitely get his.

 

[No. 16]

Ford and Moore are both the real deal.

Think Ford as a DeSean Jackson and Moore as Maclin.

 

[Dought Man]

so, not one Raiders WR, but both Ford and Moore are now fantasy startable, week to week? Come on guys....

 

[Bruno2]

so, not one Raiders WR, but both Ford and Moore are now fantasy startable, week to week? Come on guys....

Ford needs to actually get back on the field first... The forgotten man is Louis Murphy. Where does he fit in when he comes back? We know Ford, Moore and DHB are the top 3 WRs. Hagan has performed well, Schilens is seeing action, it wasn't long ago Murphy was the #1 WR.

 

[dwashington]

DROPPING THE U-WORD ON DENARIUS Jackson was rather measured in his praise of rookie receiver Denarius Moore last week, saying he wasn’t surprised and that Moore simply is doing what good football players do. Well, after another eye-opening performance from Moore on Sunday, even Jackson is finding it difficult to avoid throwing around adjectives. “Unbelievable,” Jackson said. “He’s a guy that has grown on me like you haven’t seen. A year ago, with Jacoby, I kind of probably slowed Jacoby down a little bit a year ago by not putting him in there because I wasn’t very familiar with everyone here, and he was a rookie. “(Moore) is a rookie and from day one through yesterday, the guy just continues to make plays. The first catch that he had on the screen and there he goes. He’s a game-changing football player who likes to play. When you have guys like that you just let them play and watch them play and watch them grow and that’s what he’s doing right before all of our eyes. I’m not going to stop him, that’s for sure. I’m just going to keep letting him do what he does.”

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/09/26/raiders-strong-play-validates-coach-jacksons-big-talk/

 

[Gabbo88]

The Raiders will never have another great WR Tim Brown retired years ago Moore is like a song that tops the charts for a week or 2, by seasons end people won't even remember who he is, The football Gods haven't been to the Raiders @ Wr since Tim Brown and never will. They might have a guy that has a couple of decent weeks but that s about it. Look how many busts theyve had @ that position the last few years.

Moore will just be a one month wonder.

 

[thehornet]

Ford and Moore are both the real deal.Think Ford as a DeSean Jackson and Moore as Maclin.

dude....

 

[LawFitz]

The Raiders will never have another great WR Tim Brown retired years ago Moore is like a song that tops the charts for a week or 2, by seasons end people won't even remember who he is, The football Gods haven't been to the Raiders @ Wr since Tim Brown and never will. They might have a guy that has a couple of decent weeks but that s about it. Look how many busts theyve had @ that position the last few years. Moore will just be a one month wonder.

Signed,A person who has never watched him play

 

[DoubleG]

The Raiders will never have another great WR Tim Brown retired years ago Moore is like a song that tops the charts for a week or 2, by seasons end people won't even remember who he is, The football Gods haven't been to the Raiders @ Wr since Tim Brown and never will. They might have a guy that has a couple of decent weeks but that s about it. Look how many busts theyve had @ that position the last few years. Moore will just be a one month wonder.

Whose alias is this?Nice one. Unless you're serious, in which case, I think I may have actually just got fantasy football stupider.

 

[Bruno2]

The Raiders will never have another great WR Tim Brown retired years ago Moore is like a song that tops the charts for a week or 2, by seasons end people won't even remember who he is, The football Gods haven't been to the Raiders @ Wr since Tim Brown and never will. They might have a guy that has a couple of decent weeks but that s about it. Look how many busts theyve had @ that position the last few years. Moore will just be a one month wonder.

You're entitled to your opinion but I disagree. If all of Moore's big plays were wide open catches steaking down the field or busted plays, where any track star Al Davis covets could make you might be right. But in the Buffalo game he showed leaping ability and ball skills no ordinary WR in my opinion can make against a solid, experienced CB in McKelvin. Give the kid time, he'll be more than a month or one year wonder, he has too much talent and raw ability. He still is a rookie and will probably have his share of down games but that will be because of the offensive scheme and opportunities, it won't be for lack of ability or effort.

 

[LawFitz]

I believe they play different positions / Moore plays the X position same as DHB . They rotated in the Jets game. Thats I dont understand. DHB has been brutally bad. Moore has shown hes a player. If they start Ford and DHB over Ford and Moore the Raiders are officially nutz.

The Raiders are already officially nuts and it's fairly likely they play DHB over Moore. Al Davis is the still the owner.

You aren't seeing the master plan. DHB is an excellent downfield blocker, and they just added Kevin Boss who threw a key block that sprung McFadden on that 70 yard TD run. They are still a team that wants to dominate running the ball. They had 10 first down conversions on the Jets on 2nd down. That tells you that they ran it down the Jets throats at will. It softens the defense, and sets up Moore to come in and burn the defense up top. Who cares if Moore is the snap 1 starter? If he gets 8-10 targets anyway, would you still be pleased? Moore stats come in the flow and gameplan of WINNING football games. Take a break from your fantasy football world and realize there is a master plan. The coaches don't care a whit about your fantasy teams. But when the game plan is executed correctly, the Raiders set up personnel mismatches all over the field. Moore will definitely get his.

Good post.Hue Jax doesn't give two ***** about our fantasy teams. But he wants the Raiders to win and Denarius is clearly a part of that plan going forward. Most weeks he will be a major part of the formula, some weeks he will be schemed out as he puts more on tape. Every week he's a prime candidate for a deep jump pass or three. I don't see too many more rookie doughnuts unless double and triple teams emerge. Injury is always a risk, but it is for all these players. Less so for those like Moore, who have a natural instinct for dodging hits. More so for those like Moore, who are skinny. Though there are plenty of examples of skinny playmaker WRs. And even though Moore looks thin, he seems like he has a frame that will bulk up as he ages. And he plays strong. Plus his arms look disproportionately long to me, which is clearly an advantage if true.

 

[drater]

Hating on the Raiders because of Al Davis reminds me of all the people who talked trash about the Lions this year because they didn't pay attention to the LAST year, when they finished strong winning 4 straight. Hue Jackson is a damn good coach, with some fantastic schemes who is going to take advantage of all the speed Davis has drafted for him. There will be fantasy points galore in Oakland this year, I hope heads remain in sand and I collect them in bulk.

 

[Young 8]

The Raiders will never have another great WR Tim Brown retired years ago Moore is like a song that tops the charts for a week or 2, by seasons end people won't even remember who he is, The football Gods haven't been to the Raiders @ Wr since Tim Brown and never will. They might have a guy that has a couple of decent weeks but that s about it. Look how many busts theyve had @ that position the last few years. Moore will just be a one month wonder.

One month wonder ? Really ?I thought he was a 1-day-wonder

 

[Jayrod]

Most fantasy owners have Moore plugged in as a WR3 or flex play. I think he is awesome in that role, especially if you have another high upside player to rotate with him. He can score points as a receiver, on rushes and as a punt returner. In a return yardage league he is a borderline WR2, IMO.

After this year, who knows? In dynasty he's a great hold as I don't think his value will drop at all this year. If at the end of the year, you are a believer, keep him...if not, sell him because he is in position to produce some more good games this year, starting with next week vs. the Pats.

 

[Topes]

HIJACK

RE: "Double Reverse" TD.

It wasn't. It was a reverse. The game announcers called it a double reverse. It wasn't. It was a reverse.

Every time there's an end around, it seems somebody calls it a reverse.

Every time there's a reverse, it seems somebody calls it a double reverse.

/HIJACK

 

[The Doctor]

ive got him and can keep him pretty late next year. i wont be starting him this week but i hope he puts up some good numbers - then maybe i will consider moving him into the wr3

 

[Topes]

Fun thread, still. Doubters abound, and no truth to be had, save for Moore's upcoming stat line.

Three games are in the books.

Guessing stats on a week by week basis is a bit haphazard.

So, I'm going to put my projections where my mouth is (and leave money completely out of the equation).

DENARIUS MOORE 2011 STATS, AS PROJECTED BY TOPES

Games Played/Started 17/14

88/1177/10 Receiving

8/118/2 Rushing

Two Passes, One Completion for a 42 Yard TD

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Fun thread, still. Doubters abound, and no truth to be had, save for Moore's upcoming stat line.

Three games are in the books.

Guessing stats on a week by week basis is a bit haphazard.

So, I'm going to put my projections where my mouth is (and leave money completely out of the equation).

DENARIUS MOORE 2011 STATS, AS PROJECTED BY TOPES

Games Played/Started 17/14

88/1177/10 Receiving

8/118/2 Rushing

Two Passes, One Completion for a 42 Yard TD

Nice, but you left out his projected 16.7 yards per return on punts and 2 punt return TD's.

 

[SlevinKelevra]

A-w-e-s-o-m-e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqg-JAV6_-g

 

[dharmapunk]

Anyone who saw the OAK-NYJ game see how he looked if/when he was guarded by Revis?I know his receiving stats weren't eye-popping, but 2 PI calls are really nice, something that Moss and TO and Nicks draw often. Were any of those vs. Revis?

Revis was on DHB all game, from what I saw. Cro was on Moore, and he drew 4 PI flags. Bad day all around for Cro.

Why? I thought Rex Ryan was a defensive genius. Why stick your best cover corner on a guy who can't even catch the ball.

 

[DoubleG]

HIJACKRE: "Double Reverse" TD.It wasn't. It was a reverse. The game announcers called it a double reverse. It wasn't. It was a reverse. Every time there's an end around, it seems somebody calls it a reverse.Every time there's a reverse, it seems somebody calls it a double reverse./HIJACK

You are correct. The funny thing is, the one he ran in week 2 WAS a double reverse.

 

[elbowrm]

debuting in my lineup week 4 over AJ Greene

 

[AmosMoses]

DoubleG - There was no fake to the left. It was a counter pitch.

 

[Sinn Fein]

A-w-e-s-o-m-ehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqg-JAV6_-g

Rock Cartwright jumping into the stands with the ball.

 

[AmosMoses]

A-w-e-s-o-m-ehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqg-JAV6_-g

Veldheer? absolutely CRUSHED that Jets safety. Awesome block!

 

[dharmapunk]

I'm starting him this week over Vernon Davis or Pettigrew.

I'm sold with a pitcher of the kool-aid in my stomach. Moore is a stud and an every game fantasy starter. In my PPR league he's scored 36 and 20 points in the past two games and this week he gets an atrocious Pats D in the Black Hole. The talent is there. His QB and Coach trust him. I expect at least 20 points again this week, probably a lot more.