Denarius Moore - CIncinnatti Bengals (3 Viewers)

[Raiderfan32904]

Overreact much?

Isn't that what this thread is all about?

 

[Elf On The Shelf]

Denarius Less

I see what you did there.

 

[firstseason1988]

Denarius Less

I see what you did there.

 

[Gr00vus]

Pretty much guaranteeing a 0 point week here aren't ewe?

in general i hate guyz who toot their own horn but nice thats nice in this case. regardless, this guy is in my lineup from here on out. i cant trust guys like vjax and fbg tells me nicks is wr18 going forward. dmoore it is.

Gallows humor - I started him in every league I'm in this week, so it was a given he'd put up next to nothing. An old friend of mine who lost a lot of money gambling always tells me (and I'm sure we've all heard this before, but you can never hear it enough) - "If it looks too good to be true, it probably is."

 

[GridironMenace]

Someone lock this thread! I've never seen a longer thread about a player that doesn't do anything. Enough with the hype. He isn't that good. He can't be trusted as an every week starter. Enough already!

 

[Sabertooth]

Someone lock this thread! I've never seen a longer thread about a player that doesn't do anything. Enough with the hype. He isn't that good. He can't be trusted as an every week starter. Enough already!

Totally disagree.

 

[GridironMenace]

Someone lock this thread! I've never seen a longer thread about a player that doesn't do anything. Enough with the hype. He isn't that good. He can't be trusted as an every week starter. Enough already!

Totally disagree.

What other thread has 1300+ posts about a guy with the fantasy relevance of Jerome Simpson? I would like to see it.

 

[todisco1]

Someone lock this thread! I've never seen a longer thread about a player that doesn't do anything. Enough with the hype. He isn't that good. He can't be trusted as an every week starter. Enough already!

Totally disagree.

What other thread has 1300+ posts about a guy with the fantasy relevance of Jerome Simpson? I would like to see it.

You don't have to enter the thread if you don't like the player. I play in dynasty leagues so Moore does have value for sure. To completely discount a rookie WR who has flashed game-breaking talent is foolhardy at best.

 

[GridironMenace]

Someone lock this thread! I've never seen a longer thread about a player that doesn't do anything. Enough with the hype. He isn't that good. He can't be trusted as an every week starter. Enough already!

Totally disagree.

What other thread has 1300+ posts about a guy with the fantasy relevance of Jerome Simpson? I would like to see it.

You don't have to enter the thread if you don't like the player. I play in dynasty leagues so Moore does have value for sure. To completely discount a rookie WR who has flashed game-breaking talent is foolhardy at best.

Jerome Simpson blew up yesterday...where is his thread?

 

[Sabertooth]

Someone lock this thread! I've never seen a longer thread about a player that doesn't do anything. Enough with the hype. He isn't that good. He can't be trusted as an every week starter. Enough already!

Totally disagree.

What other thread has 1300+ posts about a guy with the fantasy relevance of Jerome Simpson? I would like to see it.

You don't have to enter the thread if you don't like the player. I play in dynasty leagues so Moore does have value for sure. To completely discount a rookie WR who has flashed game-breaking talent is foolhardy at best.

Jerome Simpson blew up yesterday...where is his thread?

Start one. I'm not high on him.

 

[pittstownkiller]

Someone lock this thread! I've never seen a longer thread about a player that doesn't do anything. Enough with the hype. He isn't that good. He can't be trusted as an every week starter. Enough already!

Totally disagree.

What other thread has 1300+ posts about a guy with the fantasy relevance of Jerome Simpson? I would like to see it.

You don't have to enter the thread if you don't like the player. I play in dynasty leagues so Moore does have value for sure. To completely discount a rookie WR who has flashed game-breaking talent is foolhardy at best.

Jerome Simpson blew up yesterday...where is his thread?

Start one. I'm not high on him.

I hear Simpson is into some high-end product; he'll get you high.

 

[Sabertooth]

Someone lock this thread! I've never seen a longer thread about a player that doesn't do anything. Enough with the hype. He isn't that good. He can't be trusted as an every week starter. Enough already!

Totally disagree.

What other thread has 1300+ posts about a guy with the fantasy relevance of Jerome Simpson? I would like to see it.

You don't have to enter the thread if you don't like the player. I play in dynasty leagues so Moore does have value for sure. To completely discount a rookie WR who has flashed game-breaking talent is foolhardy at best.

Jerome Simpson blew up yesterday...where is his thread?

Start one. I'm not high on him.

I hear Simpson is into some high-end product; he'll get you high.

Overplayed.

 

[Sabertooth]

Someone lock this thread! I've never seen a longer thread about a player that doesn't do anything. Enough with the hype. He isn't that good. He can't be trusted as an every week starter. Enough already!

Totally disagree.

What other thread has 1300+ posts about a guy with the fantasy relevance of Jerome Simpson? I would like to see it.

You don't have to enter the thread if you don't like the player. I play in dynasty leagues so Moore does have value for sure. To completely discount a rookie WR who has flashed game-breaking talent is foolhardy at best.

Ford and now DHB are both hurt. Someone has to catch the ball and Palmer is playing well. This discussion is certainly fantasy relevant (and not just in dynasty). I'm not going to bother putting up a list but there are a bunch of premium WRs that put up shabby numbers yesterday (just like there is every week). WR is the hardest position in football to predict.Why did Moore under perform yesterday? I don't know and that's why I'm glad the thread is here.

He only had the two targets. Now recall last week when Jackson said DHB wasn't in because of "packages?" Well, we in the fantasy world thought this was merely coachspeak. It appears he was being honest. Basically saying "read nothing into that, it was simply a gameplanning anamoly." So going forward maybe we just try to read the tea leaves a little better concerning Jackson. I'll be interested to what he says in regards to Moore this week.

 

[GManiac]

This is one of the most peculiar threads ever. I too have never seen such a moderate player being talked about so much. It's not even like his situation or role are up in the air or confusing. He's not a bust, he's not an elite talent, not much was ever expected of him. I don't even think he will have one of the top 5 careers of the WR in this draft class. Thinking AJ, Jones, Hankerson, Little, Torrey Smith will all have superior careers. But Moore is probably in the top ten WR at least from this draft class. Very curious thread indeed. Rather boring player. Probably have to overpay in Dynasty leagues though. His owners seem very attached. One day I think he can be a consistent fantasy WR2 though. That's very nice I suppose. Jerome Simpson indeed.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Dont hate the playa, hate the thread

 

[rizzler]

Denarius is clearly a master troll.

He knows this thread exists, and totally Troll-faced you guys.

Prepare for a monster week, in 13!!!

 

[Dez]

Had D-Moore on my bench in 5 leagues last week (29 pts) started him in 5 leagues this week (2.4 pts)

Now I need Brady to have one of those magic games to bail me out to make the playoffs in the final regular season game for the league.

 

[Cawbird]

Please....please keep the thread going. Hopefully this thread builds to several more pages so that I can get a great selling price in the off-season!

 

[ShaHBucks]

Watched the bills and chargers game and Moore has the talent that few possess. The problem is Oak is not going to pass much with a lead. I'm not down on Moore while he's getting the snaps right now. There was 168 yards and a touchdown to go around *Shoulder shrug* if Palmer didn't get a rushing td we would be ripping him too.

 

[Dought Man]

Noticed some 3 wide sets in the red zone that did not have DMoore included. I guess they like Shillens size in the end zone?

 

[cvnpoka]

he was on the field for 20 of 31 pass plays. a tad less than his prior percentages.

 

[GManiac]

Watched the bills and chargers game and Moore has the talent that few possess. The problem is Oak is not going to pass much with a lead. I'm not down on Moore while he's getting the snaps right now. There was 168 yards and a touchdown to go around *Shoulder shrug* if Palmer didn't get a rushing td we would be ripping him too.

What are some aspects of that talent? Because I see a talent that quite a few possess but maybe a work ethic that needs to come along with that talent that others don't possess. That is a formula for success by the way but not necessarily upside.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Watched the bills and chargers game and Moore has the talent that few possess. The problem is Oak is not going to pass much with a lead. I'm not down on Moore while he's getting the snaps right now. There was 168 yards and a touchdown to go around *Shoulder shrug* if Palmer didn't get a rushing td we would be ripping him too.

What are some aspects of that talent? Because I see a talent that quite a few possess but maybe a work ethic that needs to come along with that talent that others don't possess. That is a formula for success by the way but not necessarily upside.

Aside from his rout running.. He has a extra gear when the ball is thrown, that's a veteran move. His attitude after a catch reminds me of jimmy graham, I'll never meet the dam guy but as a fan it tells me he's into the game when he's screaming like the incredible hulk after a 50 yard td catch. And the kid makes spectacular catches look routine. The #### just looks incredibly easy to him. Idk if it's time to question his work ethic as of yet. 5th round pick that has EARN every snap for the raiders so far.

 

[Sabertooth]

Watched the bills and chargers game and Moore has the talent that few possess. The problem is Oak is not going to pass much with a lead. I'm not down on Moore while he's getting the snaps right now. There was 168 yards and a touchdown to go around *Shoulder shrug* if Palmer didn't get a rushing td we would be ripping him too.

What are some aspects of that talent? Because I see a talent that quite a few possess but maybe a work ethic that needs to come along with that talent that others don't possess. That is a formula for success by the way but not necessarily upside.

[*]Ability to go between defenders and make catches in traffic.

[*]Speed to get deep on top level corners such as Jammer.

[*]Ability to adjust to the ball in the air.

[*]Crisp route running and ability to run all the routes in the tree.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Watched the bills and chargers game and Moore has the talent that few possess. The problem is Oak is not going to pass much with a lead. I'm not down on Moore while he's getting the snaps right now. There was 168 yards and a touchdown to go around *Shoulder shrug* if Palmer didn't get a rushing td we would be ripping him too.

What are some aspects of that talent? Because I see a talent that quite a few possess but maybe a work ethic that needs to come along with that talent that others don't possess. That is a formula for success by the way but not necessarily upside.

[*]Ability to go between defenders and make catches in traffic.

[*]Speed to get deep on top level corners such as Jammer.

[*]Ability to adjust to the ball in the air.

[*]Crisp route running and ability to run all the routes in the tree.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm rolling with him this week as well. He's going to be up and down.

 

[mr roboto]

I want to say 3 things...

1. If you come in this thread and complain that you started him and he only got you ___ points and it's the thread's fault, go away.

2. If you think analyzing a promising young football player's prospects on a football board is a useful exercise, stay and keep posting.

3. If you think he is the greatest WR in the NFL based on one good game, or trash based on one bad game, you need to rethink the way you think.

Bottom line - Moore is a good player who has flashed top-level abilities as a rookie. No one with a sound mind, who is not fishing, can disagree with that statement.

 

[Sabertooth]

I want to say 3 things...1. If you come in this thread and complain that you started him and he only got you ___ points and it's the thread's fault, go away.2. If you think analyzing a promising young football player's prospects on a football board is a useful exercise, stay and keep posting.3. If you think he is the greatest WR in the NFL based on one good game, or trash based on one bad game, you need to rethink the way you think.Bottom line - Moore is a good player who has flashed top-level abilities as a rookie. No one with a sound mind, who is not fishing, can disagree with that statement.

Great posting.

 

[cvnpoka]

I want to say 3 things...1. If you come in this thread and complain that you started him and he only got you ___ points and it's the thread's fault, go away.2. If you think analyzing a promising young football player's prospects on a football board is a useful exercise, stay and keep posting.3. If you think he is the greatest WR in the NFL based on one good game, or trash based on one bad game, you need to rethink the way you think.Bottom line - Moore is a good player who has flashed top-level abilities as a rookie. No one with a sound mind, who is not fishing, can disagree with that statement.

how about if i want to lol at how drastically overrated he is in this thread? wr1 going forward? wr2 going forward? trading for andre johnson for him in keeper? starting him over vjax?i know it sucks to be wrong, and esp on the internet where your words sit in plain view forever, but some ppl should man up and admit they were wrong on this dude's fantasy prospects rather than make excuses, shift goalposts, sugarcoat and attempt to cover their tracks.

 

[Sabertooth]

I want to say 3 things...1. If you come in this thread and complain that you started him and he only got you ___ points and it's the thread's fault, go away.2. If you think analyzing a promising young football player's prospects on a football board is a useful exercise, stay and keep posting.3. If you think he is the greatest WR in the NFL based on one good game, or trash based on one bad game, you need to rethink the way you think.Bottom line - Moore is a good player who has flashed top-level abilities as a rookie. No one with a sound mind, who is not fishing, can disagree with that statement.

how about if i want to lol at how drastically overrated he is in this thread? wr1 going forward? wr2 going forward? trading for andre johnson for him in keeper? starting him over vjax?i know it sucks to be wrong, and esp on the internet where your words sit in plain view forever, but some ppl should man up and admit they were wrong on this dude's fantasy prospects rather than make excuses, shift goalposts, sugarcoat and attempt to cover their tracks.

Where do you rank him going forward? I'm not covering any tracks. He had a bad game. So did Manningham, Damian Williams, other rated near Moore. Are you stating these players have no value at all?

 

[cvnpoka]

just eyeballing, id say around wr 28 or so. id take him over williams. not sure about manningham.

i never said he had no value. i just said he was massively overrated.

 

[Sabertooth]

just eyeballing, id say around wr 28 or so. id take him over williams. not sure about manningham.i never said he had no value. i just said he was massively overrated.

Yeah, people get excited about guys, especially in those nationally televised games. I'm guilty of it too. That said, I'm starting him and Damian from here on out. With injuries to Cutler and Adrian Peterson this week, I can't address the WR corps to try and improve. I'm hoping for the best.

 

[GManiac]

The Moore owner in my Dynasty league wants Gregg Jennings for him. Moore has obviously brought mass hysteria and confusion to fantasy owners everywhere and his evil should be smited and his remains dispersed to the four corners of the world.

 

[Kenny Powers]

The Moore owner in my Dynasty league wants Gregg Jennings for him. Moore has obviously brought mass hysteria and confusion to fantasy owners everywhere and his evil should be smited and his remains dispersed to the four corners of the world.

If you cant spell your own stud players' 4 letter first name, you may be just as confused.

 

[GManiac]

The Moore owner in my Dynasty league wants Gregg Jennings for him. Moore has obviously brought mass hysteria and confusion to fantasy owners everywhere and his evil should be smited and his remains dispersed to the four corners of the world.

If you cant spell your own stud players' 4 letter first name, you may be just as confused.

If I was concerning myself with other peoples spelling or double tapping a button on a keyboard I would probably question everything about myself.

 

[Garrett]

I feel like I am dating myself a little, but I think most fantasy owners remember the epic playoff run that Drew Bennett went in during the fantasy playoffs in 2004. It wasn't just a few decent games, it was a few win your league games.

Moore is very talented; albeit raw and still learning, but he has proven he can have some big games.

Carson Palmer is still a top QB. The arm is still there and he is getting better every week with his new team.

Jacoby Ford was injured to start the season and is now hurt again; it is pretty much a lost season for him.

I am not even sure how much he mattered but DHB is also hurt/concussed now.

Hue Jackson has proven to be an above average HC/Offensive Coordinator, the Raiders are flat out scoring.

Take all of that into consideration, and then factor in the that Raiders play the Packers in week 14 and the Lions in week 15. The number 1 and number 3 scoring team in the league.

I think people are underestimating how useful Moore could be in week 14 and 15.

 

[dickey moe]

I want to say 3 things...

1. If you come in this thread and complain that you started him and he only got you ___ points and it's the thread's fault, go away.

2. If you think analyzing a promising young football player's prospects on a football board is a useful exercise, stay and keep posting.

3. If you think he is the greatest WR in the NFL based on one good game, or trash based on one bad game, you need to rethink the way you think.

Bottom line - Moore is a good player who has flashed top-level abilities as a rookie. No one with a sound mind, who is not fishing, can disagree with that statement.

how about if i want to lol at how drastically overrated he is in this thread? wr1 going forward? wr2 going forward? trading for andre johnson for him in keeper? starting him over vjax?i know it sucks to be wrong, and esp on the internet where your words sit in plain view forever, but some ppl should man up and admit they were wrong on this dude's fantasy prospects rather than make excuses, shift goalposts, sugarcoat and attempt to cover their tracks.

Where do you rank him going forward? I'm not covering any tracks. He had a bad game. So did Manningham, Damian Williams, other rated near Moore. Are you stating these players have no value at all?

That "other rated near Moore" happened to be Steve Johnson for me this week. And I happened to start all four aforementioned WRs on one team this week (10 total WRs points in PPR woohoo).

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Love Moore in dynasty based off of his talent, redraft hes just not worth starting unless your desperate.

 

[the spanker]

Love Moore in dynasty based off of his talent, redraft hes just not worth starting unless your desperate.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Counted one under thrown pass that he actually tried to make an adjustment on and one shot in the endzone that should have been pass interference in the Minnesota game. And was used on a end around. I repeat I'm still high on Moore as someone that can win a league for you giving he was a waiver add with high wr2-low wr1 potential.

You guys think he's still a must start with the injuries and what V-Jax just did to Chicago?

 

[cvnpoka]

Moore as someone that can win a league for you giving he was a waiver add with high wr2-low wr1 potential.

see, thats exactly what im talking about. dude is a high wr2 really? well, so is torrey smith then.

 

[ourmanflint]

I feel like I am dating myself a little, but I think most fantasy owners remember the epic playoff run that Drew Bennett went in during the fantasy playoffs in 2004. It wasn't just a few decent games, it was a few win your league games.Moore is very talented; albeit raw and still learning, but he has proven he can have some big games.Carson Palmer is still a top QB. The arm is still there and he is getting better every week with his new team.Jacoby Ford was injured to start the season and is now hurt again; it is pretty much a lost season for him.I am not even sure how much he mattered but DHB is also hurt/concussed now.Hue Jackson has proven to be an above average HC/Offensive Coordinator, the Raiders are flat out scoring.Take all of that into consideration, and then factor in the that Raiders play the Packers in week 14 and the Lions in week 15. The number 1 and number 3 scoring team in the league.I think people are underestimating how useful Moore could be in week 14 and 15.

His schedule here on out is money. He has a shot to make a real difference down the stretch and in the fantasy playoffs to and including week 16. This isn't hype but an objective opinion of a player with plenty of potential and a very good situation.

 

[Sabertooth]

I feel like I am dating myself a little, but I think most fantasy owners remember the epic playoff run that Drew Bennett went in during the fantasy playoffs in 2004. It wasn't just a few decent games, it was a few win your league games.Moore is very talented; albeit raw and still learning, but he has proven he can have some big games.Carson Palmer is still a top QB. The arm is still there and he is getting better every week with his new team.Jacoby Ford was injured to start the season and is now hurt again; it is pretty much a lost season for him.I am not even sure how much he mattered but DHB is also hurt/concussed now.Hue Jackson has proven to be an above average HC/Offensive Coordinator, the Raiders are flat out scoring.Take all of that into consideration, and then factor in the that Raiders play the Packers in week 14 and the Lions in week 15. The number 1 and number 3 scoring team in the league.I think people are underestimating how useful Moore could be in week 14 and 15.

I'll date myself even more and bring up Patrick Jeffers.

 

[Sabertooth]

Moore as someone that can win a league for you giving he was a waiver add with high wr2-low wr1 potential.

see, thats exactly what im talking about. dude is a high wr2 really? well, so is torrey smith then.

Would it make you feel better if people said he was a low WR2? What's the difference? Do you want people to advise that you cut him for a different WR2? Who can you get in Free Agency right now? If you did drink the kool aid on him, are you looking for those who convinced you to reimburse you for last week somehow? Maybe we could pass the hat for your or something because you seem really offended by Denarius Moore. You have all of the same resources available to you that anyone else on the internet has, so don't blame others when you make a move. That's on you, don't be a baby. Also, don't make the mistake of benching him this weekend. I'm not.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Counted one under thrown pass that he actually tried to make an adjustment on and one shot in the endzone that should have been pass interference in the Minnesota game. And was used on a end around. I repeat I'm still high on Moore as someone that can win a league for you giving he was a waiver add with high wr2-low wr1 potential.You guys think he's still a must start with the injuries and what V-Jax just did to Chicago?

Speaking of which, I have him in vs CHI.At home, what VJax just did, CHI no. 30 vs the pass (surprising, per CBS), Hanie coming in at QB, DHB is dinged & Ford still out, at home in the hole.Anyone else?

 

[Gr00vus]

Counted one under thrown pass that he actually tried to make an adjustment on and one shot in the endzone that should have been pass interference in the Minnesota game. And was used on a end around. I repeat I'm still high on Moore as someone that can win a league for you giving he was a waiver add with high wr2-low wr1 potential.

You guys think he's still a must start with the injuries and what V-Jax just did to Chicago?

Speaking of which, I have him in vs CHI.At home, what VJax just did, CHI no. 30 vs the pass (surprising, per CBS), Hanie coming in at QB, DHB is dinged & Ford still out, at home in the hole.

Anyone else?

I'm concerned that the Raiders might not need to throw much to win/stay in this one. Could be a low scoring, conservative type of game.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Counted one under thrown pass that he actually tried to make an adjustment on and one shot in the endzone that should have been pass interference in the Minnesota game. And was used on a end around. I repeat I'm still high on Moore as someone that can win a league for you giving he was a waiver add with high wr2-low wr1 potential.

You guys think he's still a must start with the injuries and what V-Jax just did to Chicago?

Speaking of which, I have him in vs CHI.At home, what VJax just did, CHI no. 30 vs the pass (surprising, per CBS), Hanie coming in at QB, DHB is dinged & Ford still out, at home in the hole.

Anyone else?

I'm concerned that the Raiders might not need to throw much to win/stay in this one. Could be a low scoring, conservative type of game.

I don't disagree. But just when you think you have a game pegged as low scoring, it turns out to be the opposite for whatever reason. Regardless of the talk that M. Bush is going to rush 30 times, (and I have doubts about that too) the Bears defense is formidable. The only way the Raiders are going to get a lead that leads the conservatism that you predict is to open up the passing game up top in the first half. Maybe even deep into the game. I think Moore is in line for a classic bounce back game. He's been boom or bust and the rollercoaster ride continues on. I think he's a boom this week. The Bears are a good team and I expect them to be in this game down the last possession.

 

[Gr00vus]

Counted one under thrown pass that he actually tried to make an adjustment on and one shot in the endzone that should have been pass interference in the Minnesota game. And was used on a end around. I repeat I'm still high on Moore as someone that can win a league for you giving he was a waiver add with high wr2-low wr1 potential.

You guys think he's still a must start with the injuries and what V-Jax just did to Chicago?

Speaking of which, I have him in vs CHI.At home, what VJax just did, CHI no. 30 vs the pass (surprising, per CBS), Hanie coming in at QB, DHB is dinged & Ford still out, at home in the hole.

Anyone else?

I'm concerned that the Raiders might not need to throw much to win/stay in this one. Could be a low scoring, conservative type of game.

I don't disagree. But just when you think you have a game pegged as low scoring, it turns out to be the opposite for whatever reason. Regardless of the talk that M. Bush is going to rush 30 times, (and I have doubts about that too) the Bears defense is formidable. The only way the Raiders are going to get a lead that leads the conservatism that you predict is to open up the passing game up top in the first half. Maybe even deep into the game. I think Moore is in line for a classic bounce back game. He's been boom or bust and the rollercoaster ride continues on. I think he's a boom this week. The Bears are a good team and I expect them to be in this game down the last possession.

Yeah, but if it's a 10 to 6 game I'd imagine both teams are going to play it close to the vest, win field position, happy with field goals, that kind of thing which would put a damper on passing numbers. The thing with Moore (and Ford) is they can turn just a couple of opportunities into big points - so you just never know.

 

[elbowrm]

Per rotoworld, missed practice today and is in a boot.

 

[Gr00vus]

Per rotoworld, missed practice today and is in a boot.

Unbelievable - I should post the rest of my roster in a thread so the SP will know who else will be out this week.