Derek Anderson - who is he? (1 Viewer)

[Godsbrother]

Before yesterday I had never heard of him. Looking at the game stats it appears he did a nice job yesterday in relief of Charlie Frye.

Do any Cleveland homers have any more info on him? How did he look in preseason? How do you think he'll do on the road this Thursday night against the Steelers in very cold temperatures? What are his chances of taking the #1 job away from Charlie Frye?

 

[section 8]

Before yesterday I had never heard of him. Looking at the game stats it appears he did a nice job yesterday in relief of Charlie Frye.Do any Cleveland homers have any more info on him? How did he look in preseason? How do you think he'll do on the road this Thursday night against the Steelers in very cold temperatures? What are his chances of taking the #1 job away from Charlie Frye?

Yea, who Derek Anderson and is he worth picking up in a Dynasty league....Lets face it Frye isn't exactly putting up great numbers...

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

Derek Anderson played QB at Oregon State. Think he was a four year starter...maybe only three. He was a good Pac-10 QB, but always looked like he had potential to be better. He is a pretty big kid with a strong arm.

Coming out of HS, he was one of the top recruited QBs on the West Coast and certainly among the top QBs nationally.

 

[Warhogs]

Not a Cleveland homer so no insight here but I believe he played pretty well in the preseason? I am interested to see what he can do.

 

[Colin Dowling]

He's very large 6'6 / 230+ and is a very good athlete. At Oregon State, he was uber-productive but was allowed to not really "get better" as a QB. His mechanics, footwork, technique, etc. never got much better in college.

He was drafted by the Ravens and was expected to compete for the backup spot, but was not really given much opportunity to stake his claim. If I recall correctly, he was cut and the Browns picked him up.

As you could tell in yesterday's game, he was raw but effective. Unfortunately, being effective doesn't last when game tape gets compiled. As an aside, it was nice to see that Frye seemed really excited for him.

 

[Tecumseh]

He's very large 6'6 / 230+ and is a very good athlete. At Oregon State, he was uber-productive but was allowed to not really "get better" as a QB. His mechanics, footwork, technique, etc. never got much better in college.

He was drafted by the Ravens and was expected to compete for the backup spot, but was not really given much opportunity to stake his claim. If I recall correctly, he was cut and the Browns picked him up.

As you could tell in yesterday's game, he was raw but effective. Unfortunately, being effective doesn't last when game tape gets compiled. As an aside, it was nice to see that Frye seemed really excited for him.

Just some info I culled from the Plain Dealer this morning:
Frye's wrist may well be broken, so it may be Anderson's job the rest of the way.
Tall, rangy QB, size 17 feet- his mom had to ask the Trailblazers for help with is shoes when he was 10. Got a pair from Arvidas Sabonas
Drafted by the Ravens when Phil Savage was there. Phil immediately snapped him up when the Ravens cut himHe also likes pina coladas and long walks on the beach.

Hope this helps.

 

[kevjones22]

My friend at osu says he was boo'd often in 2005

 

[bigfishboy]

GO BEAVERS!!!!

Unfortunately, what Colin has to say is true. He was a highly ranked top recruit coming into Oregon State and played mostly for Dennis Erickson. He was surrounded by good talent at times, threw to Houshmanzadeh and Chad, handed off to Steven Jackson. But he never seemed to get better himself.

He has the measurables, but seems to lack the mental capacity. Though as a Beaver alum I am routing hard for him.

 

[bigfishboy]

My friend at osu says he was boo'd often in 2005

I believe he must have meant Matt Moore who has led the Beavs in 2005 and 2006.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Just to echo what has been said. Ideal QB size and arm. Also great on fakes - yesterday his pump fakes and play action fakes were especially crisp. The lack of improvement in college, and general lack of turning his potential into production was what caused this first day physical talent to fall so far in the draft. He seemed very ready to answer the bell yesterday, and ran all the plays/made all the throws with confidence. He did almost give the game to the Chiefs after his stirring comeback. After Trent Green attempted to give the game to the Browns by fumbling with less than a minute left, Anderson responded by forgetting that Kawika Mitchell was on the OTHER team, and almost setting KC up with a game winning FG try. If the refs had caught that Gonzo got to the sidelines with one tick left, Anderson would have had to think about that all week.

I'm definitely intrigued, but he's still nothing more than a flier at this point. I did bump him up significantly in the dynasty rankings, and he continues to look this poised, he may crack the top 40 dynasty QBs.

 

[FFdork]

I would imagine the bigger issue is what Anderson will do to the numbers for Edwards and Winslow. Frye had been inconcsistent, so you have to wonder if it would make a big difference. Yet, with the sampling of the single game, it looked like all of Edward's catches came with Frye and Winslow only had one reception in the whole game. Meanwhile Droughns catches a crapload of dump offs.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Whatever you do, don't ask Gunther Cunningham about him. He acted as if he was scared by the kid they way he called defensive plays in the 4th QTR yesterday.

 

[CommuterMan]

He's very large 6'6 / 230+ and is a very good athlete. At Oregon State, he was uber-productive but was allowed to not really "get better" as a QB. His mechanics, footwork, technique, etc. never got much better in college.

He was drafted by the Ravens and was expected to compete for the backup spot, but was not really given much opportunity to stake his claim. If I recall correctly, he was cut and the Browns picked him up.

As you could tell in yesterday's game, he was raw but effective. Unfortunately, being effective doesn't last when game tape gets compiled. As an aside, it was nice to see that Frye seemed really excited for him.

If I remember correctly, the Ravens did NOT cut Anderson but he was placed on the practice squad at the end of preseason. When the Browns came in and inquired about him, the Ravens could not afford the space to put him back on the roster so Anderson was allowed to sign with the Browns.The Ravens liked the kid but also drafted Olsen out of UCLA and could not keep both young QBs...

 

[2banalias]

GO BEAVERS!!!!

Unfortunately, what Colin has to say is true. He was a highly ranked top recruit coming into Oregon State and played mostly for Dennis Erickson. He was surrounded by good talent at times, threw to Houshmanzadeh and Chad, handed off to Steven Jackson. But he never seemed to get better himself.

He has the measurables, but seems to lack the mental capacity. Though as a Beaver alum I am routing hard for him.

Make that two Beaver alums rooting for him! As long as he doesn't have to use his legs a lot he can be effective. In college he lit up the scoreboard as frequently as he threw interceptions. There were times when his play would just make you cry, but when he was on fire he was unstoppable. PS: His most often used nickname was "Anderception."

 

[Godsbrother]

Being out of the playoff race has taken a lot of the magic out of going to Steeler games this season. Being it was against the Browns I was still looking forward going to the game Thursday night (even though it is going to be very COLD).

Now watching Anderson in his first start against the Steelers defense should make going to the game extra fun. Traditionally the Steelers have been brutal to young QBs but of course this has not been a typical season.

I just hope he doesn't come out and look like the second coming of Johnny Unitas...

 

[Rozelle]

The real test will be this week, Pittsburgh DC will have time to game plan and exploit his weakness, though being a short work week could work out to his advantage.

 

[redman]

He always struck me as being very similar to Andrew Walter, who played opposite of him at ASU at the same time. Both are big guys with strong arms who started for multiple years on second-tier Pac 10 programs. It's pretty hard to figure out who will do better long term, although I like Anderson's supporting cast and the relative stability of his situation a bit more than Walter's, not to mention that Frye's injury clears the way for him.

 

[replacements]

I don't know much about his college history, but yesterday he looked very good coming in half way through a game.

His armseems much stronger than frye's. He was 12/21 for 171 2td 1int.

This somewhat supports the earlier posts of inaccuracy.But other than the late pick he seemed accurate when it mattered. IIRC he converted several late third downs that were critical in the win.

I liked what I saw of him yesterday and as a Browns fan I'm interested to see what he can do with a couple of starts.

As an Akron guy I want Charlie to do well.But as a cleveland fan I have serious doubts as to whether or not charlie can be a quality NFL QB. For 1 half Anderson was fairly impressive.

 

[tayhall99]

GO BEAVERS!!!!

Unfortunately, what Colin has to say is true. He was a highly ranked top recruit coming into Oregon State and played mostly for Dennis Erickson. He was surrounded by good talent at times, threw to Houshmanzadeh and Chad, handed off to Steven Jackson. But he never seemed to get better himself.

He has the measurables, but seems to lack the mental capacity. Though as a Beaver alum I am routing hard for him.

Make that two Beaver alums rooting for him! As long as he doesn't have to use his legs a lot he can be effective. In college he lit up the scoreboard as frequently as he threw interceptions. There were times when his play would just make you cry, but when he was on fire he was unstoppable. PS: His most often used nickname was "Anderception."

He never once played with Chad Johnson or Houshmanzadeh. They were both seniors in 2000 and Anderson was a true freshmen in 2001. He was called Anderception often but he came on at the end of his senior season

 

[Gamblor]

PS: His most often used nickname was "Anderception."

I like it.

 

[bigfishboy]

GO BEAVERS!!!!

Unfortunately, what Colin has to say is true. He was a highly ranked top recruit coming into Oregon State and played mostly for Dennis Erickson. He was surrounded by good talent at times, threw to Houshmanzadeh and Chad, handed off to Steven Jackson. But he never seemed to get better himself.

He has the measurables, but seems to lack the mental capacity. Though as a Beaver alum I am routing hard for him.

Make that two Beaver alums rooting for him! As long as he doesn't have to use his legs a lot he can be effective. In college he lit up the scoreboard as frequently as he threw interceptions. There were times when his play would just make you cry, but when he was on fire he was unstoppable. PS: His most often used nickname was "Anderception."

He never once played with Chad Johnson or Houshmanzadeh. They were both seniors in 2000 and Anderson was a true freshmen in 2001. He was called Anderception often but he came on at the end of his senior season

Alright, so my memory sucks. The points are still valid.

 

[BGP]

One of the most puzzling things about Browns GM Phil Savage in this past offseason was why he never went out and got an experienced QB to backup Charlie Frye. Its usually typical for a team do get a veteran that the young starter can learn from. Yet the Browns have played this season with Derek Anderson and Ken Dorsey backing up Frye. Both lack experience.

Trent Dilfer, who QBed the Browns last year, apparently had a falling out with OC Maurice Carthon and that was why he wanted out. Speculation has been that word got out that Carthon is a guy to avoid playing for, so perhaps that was a factor. I guess one can imagine that Savage saw something in Anderson but it still doesn't explain the lack of a veteran QB on the roster.

And that's the word on the Browns' QB situation.

 

[Tecumseh]

One of the most puzzling things about Browns GM Phil Savage in this past offseason was why he never went out and got an experienced QB to backup Charlie Frye. Its usually typical for a team do get a veteran that the young starter can learn from. Yet the Browns have played this season with Derek Anderson and Ken Dorsey backing up Frye. Both lack experience.Trent Dilfer, who QBed the Browns last year, apparently had a falling out with OC Maurice Carthon and that was why he wanted out. Speculation has been that word got out that Carthon is a guy to avoid playing for, so perhaps that was a factor. I guess one can imagine that Savage saw something in Anderson but it still doesn't explain the lack of a veteran QB on the roster.And that's the word on the Browns' QB situation.

The explanation they gave on the radio yesterday was that they didn't want Charlie looking over his shoulder, as they expected him to struggle some as he learned.

 

[chris1969]

He's tall and he has a rocket arm, but he's not very smart and not very accurate (career 52% in college, 41 INTs to go with 53 TDs). Also, he wasn't very mobile in college -- he's already rushed for more yards in the NFL than he ever did at OSU.

Just summed the guy up better than I ever could! Anderson had a great pre-season though and he is the only reason the Browns didn't go after a seasoned vet. Enough potential to allow the Browns to show confidence in Frye without feeling like a week 2 injury would get everybody fired. I'm not sure I'd call the guy dumb though, I think he doesn't have great field vision. I think he's another Romo, and needs alot more time before he's ready. As good as he looked in pre-season, he looked better in the new offense with the 3 step drops. Frye looked better in the 3-step as well, and if I'm not mistaken had a better QB rating.

One of the most puzzling things about Browns GM Phil Savage in this past offseason was why he never went out and got an experienced QB to backup Charlie Frye. Its usually typical for a team do get a veteran that the young starter can learn from. Yet the Browns have played this season with Derek Anderson and Ken Dorsey backing up Frye. Both lack experience.Trent Dilfer, who QBed the Browns last year, apparently had a falling out with OC Maurice Carthon and that was why he wanted out. Speculation has been that word got out that Carthon is a guy to avoid playing for, so perhaps that was a factor. I guess one can imagine that Savage saw something in Anderson but it still doesn't explain the lack of a veteran QB on the roster.And that's the word on the Browns' QB situation.

The explanation they gave on the radio yesterday was that they didn't want Charlie looking over his shoulder, as they expected him to struggle some as he learned.

I think if there was a vet they could have got for the right price and that could play the whole season if needed and could help Charlie's development without giving the media a reason to hang Charlie we would have got him. Since that guy wasn't out there, the sign Vinnie if Charlie got hurt plan is still pretty good.

 

[2banalias]

GO BEAVERS!!!!

Unfortunately, what Colin has to say is true. He was a highly ranked top recruit coming into Oregon State and played mostly for Dennis Erickson. He was surrounded by good talent at times, threw to Houshmanzadeh and Chad, handed off to Steven Jackson. But he never seemed to get better himself.

He has the measurables, but seems to lack the mental capacity. Though as a Beaver alum I am routing hard for him.

Make that two Beaver alums rooting for him! As long as he doesn't have to use his legs a lot he can be effective. In college he lit up the scoreboard as frequently as he threw interceptions. There were times when his play would just make you cry, but when he was on fire he was unstoppable. PS: His most often used nickname was "Anderception."

He never once played with Chad Johnson or Houshmanzadeh. They were both seniors in 2000 and Anderson was a true freshmen in 2001. He was called Anderception often but he came on at the end of his senior season

This is true. James Newson was one of Anderson's favorite targets and Mike Hass also did some amazing things.

 

[The Hank]

Being out of the playoff race has taken a lot of the magic out of going to Steeler games this season. Being it was against the Browns I was still looking forward going to the game Thursday night (even though it is going to be very COLD).Now watching Anderson in his first start against the Steelers defense should make going to the game extra fun. Traditionally the Steelers have been brutal to young QBs but of course this has not been a typical season.I just hope he doesn't come out and look like the second coming of Johnny Unitas...

I'll be with ya Godsbrother

 

[Bri]

I wanted to see that former Syracuse QB

 

[Godsbrother]

Being out of the playoff race has taken a lot of the magic out of going to Steeler games this season. Being it was against the Browns I was still looking forward going to the game Thursday night (even though it is going to be very COLD).Now watching Anderson in his first start against the Steelers defense should make going to the game extra fun. Traditionally the Steelers have been brutal to young QBs but of course this has not been a typical season.I just hope he doesn't come out and look like the second coming of Johnny Unitas...

I'll be with ya Godsbrother

 

[Browns Rule!]

He is the strongest of the Browns QB's as you could tell with the zip he put on balls. I'm happy to have him as a backup, but that is all he is. If a team were able to game plan for him, his numbers would fall drastically. Charlie Frye is still the man, but he is a nice backup.

 

[Godsbrother]

He is the strongest of the Browns QB's as you could tell with the zip he put on balls. I'm happy to have him as a backup, but that is all he is. If a team were able to game plan for him, his numbers would fall drastically. Charlie Frye is still the man, but he is a nice backup.

Given the limited amount of real game film on him, I wonder how much the Steelers can really game plan for him.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

He is the strongest of the Browns QB's as you could tell with the zip he put on balls. I'm happy to have him as a backup, but that is all he is. If a team were able to game plan for him, his numbers would fall drastically. Charlie Frye is still the man, but he is a nice backup.

Given the limited amount of real game film on him, I wonder how much the Steelers can really game plan for him.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. How many times do you think he has played against a 3-4?If Peyton, Brady and McNabb all struggle vs 3-4 Defenses, how do you really think Anderception is going to fare in his 2nd NFL start?I'd say probably not so great. Especially if the Steelers get up early and can get medieval on his ####. Edit to add: 1st NFL start.

 

[Banger]

Is Polamalu back this week? It sounds like the Steelers D may be a good start this week....

 

[Godsbrother]

Is Polamalu back this week? It sounds like the Steelers D may be a good start this week....

Cowher had his news conference yesterday instead of today because of the Thursday night game. He did notgive any injury updates but last week said that Polamalu and Ward would likely sit this game out due to the short week.With Ryan Clark's injury that means both starting safeties will likely not play this week against the Browns. Veteran Tyrone Carter and 3rd round pick Anthony Smith will start.

 

[Warhogs]

I had to work last night and did not see the game. What is everyone's impression of how Derek Anderson played last night? His stat line looks decent but not great. Does he look like he could have some future dynasty value?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I had to work last night and did not see the game. What is everyone's impression of how Derek Anderson played last night? His stat line looks decent but not great. Does he look like he could have some future dynasty value?

Strong arm, good accuracy, had some drops by WRs. Looked good.I'd pick him up (and I have) in Dynasty leagues.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Steve Mariucci was also gushing over him on the NFL-N last night.

"They have two good young quarterbacks."

 

[Godsbrother]

I had to work last night and did not see the game. What is everyone's impression of how Derek Anderson played last night? His stat line looks decent but not great. Does he look like he could have some future dynasty value?

Strong arm, good accuracy, had some drops by WRs. Looked good.I'd pick him up (and I have) in Dynasty leagues.

He may have a strong arm but he didn't show it last night. He didn't throw a pass longer than 10 yards unitl the final 5:00 of the game. Obviously the Browns game plan (if you want to call it that) was not allowing him to go deep but once they were down by double digits you would have thought they would have gone deep a couple times and try to take advantage of the Steelers injuries in the secondary.

 

[nightshift]

I had to work last night and did not see the game. What is everyone's impression of how Derek Anderson played last night? His stat line looks decent but not great. Does he look like he could have some future dynasty value?

Strong arm, good accuracy, had some drops by WRs. Looked good.I'd pick him up (and I have) in Dynasty leagues.

He may have a strong arm but he didn't show it last night. He didn't throw a pass longer than 10 yards unitl the final 5:00 of the game. Obviously the Browns game plan (if you want to call it that) was not allowing him to go deep but once they were down by double digits you would have thought they would have gone deep a couple times and try to take advantage of the Steelers injuries in the secondary.

DA got owned. Big time. He's still a raw rookie talent and he's playing for the Browns. Not a good combo.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I had to work last night and did not see the game. What is everyone's impression of how Derek Anderson played last night? His stat line looks decent but not great. Does he look like he could have some future dynasty value?

Strong arm, good accuracy, had some drops by WRs. Looked good.I'd pick him up (and I have) in Dynasty leagues.

He may have a strong arm but he didn't show it last night. He didn't throw a pass longer than 10 yards unitl the final 5:00 of the game. Obviously the Browns game plan (if you want to call it that) was not allowing him to go deep but once they were down by double digits you would have thought they would have gone deep a couple times and try to take advantage of the Steelers injuries in the secondary.

DA got owned. Big time. He's still a raw rookie talent and he's playing for the Browns. Not a good combo.

No bias here.... 21-37-276-1-1 was pretty good numbers, especially with the drops.

 

[Warhogs]

I tend to think his stat. line was pretty solid for a young guy making his first start. Remember some of those ugly stat. lines from Alex Smith last year? Same goes for guys like Losman, Boller.... ( a lot of guys put up ugly lines). His numbers look respectable but I did not see the game.

 

[redman]

DA got owned. Big time. He's still a raw rookie talent and he's playing for the Browns. Not a good combo.

No bias here.... 21-37-276-1-1 was pretty good numbers, especially with the drops.

You beat me to the punch. Frankly Roethlisberger has more to be embarrassed about with his 11/21 225 1/0 stat line on his team given the stage of his career and his level of experience than DA had on his team. People resort to this "got owned" business much too readily. It starts to lack meaning after a while.

 

[nightshift]

I had to work last night and did not see the game. What is everyone's impression of how Derek Anderson played last night? His stat line looks decent but not great. Does he look like he could have some future dynasty value?

Strong arm, good accuracy, had some drops by WRs. Looked good.I'd pick him up (and I have) in Dynasty leagues.

He may have a strong arm but he didn't show it last night. He didn't throw a pass longer than 10 yards unitl the final 5:00 of the game. Obviously the Browns game plan (if you want to call it that) was not allowing him to go deep but once they were down by double digits you would have thought they would have gone deep a couple times and try to take advantage of the Steelers injuries in the secondary.

DA got owned. Big time. He's still a raw rookie talent and he's playing for the Browns. Not a good combo.

No bias here.... 21-37-276-1-1 was pretty good numbers, especially with the drops.

No bias there... sheesh. Some expurt.Mostly garbage time stats... especially the score. Like I said, a raw rookie playing for the Browns.

 

[Colin Dowling]

A raw rookie playing for the Browns in extremely cold weather. Yes, the weather is part of the game, but Anderson shows decent poise in the pocket, a live arm (lots of drops) and an ability to scramble. While I'm not sure I think he or Frye is headed to the HoF, watching the Browns lately, it's starting to look like their needs are not most pressing at QB.

 

[Iron Mike Tomczak]

DA got owned. Big time. He's still a raw rookie talent and he's playing for the Browns. Not a good combo.

No bias here.... 21-37-276-1-1 was pretty good numbers, especially with the drops.

You beat me to the punch. Frankly Roethlisberger has more to be embarrassed about with his 11/21 225 1/0 stat line on his team given the stage of his career and his level of experience than DA had on his team. People resort to this "got owned" business much too readily. It starts to lack meaning after a while.

Dude....Ben won. He didnt have to throw. His RB had 223 yards.....I dont believe he has to be embarrassed about anything he did in the game. You should be embarrassed for your stupid comment.

 

[nightshift]

A raw rookie playing for the Browns in extremely cold weather. Yes, the weather is part of the game, but Anderson shows decent poise in the pocket, a live arm (lots of drops) and an ability to scramble. While I'm not sure I think he or Frye is headed to the HoF, watching the Browns lately, it's starting to look like their needs are not most pressing at QB.

Agreed. Frye & Anderson can go to the HOF anytime - just an hour drive away. Think it's cold in Pittsburgh? Try playing in the Mistake by the Lake Stadium. He played against a banged Pittsburgh D with a suspect secondary. He did show poise, he could scramble, but he (like the rest of the Browns) got No escaping that. Happens to all teams.

 

[Fallerjw]

I had to work last night and did not see the game. What is everyone's impression of how Derek Anderson played last night? His stat line looks decent but not great. Does he look like he could have some future dynasty value?

Strong arm, good accuracy, had some drops by WRs. Looked good.I'd pick him up (and I have) in Dynasty leagues.

That might be one of the biggest understatements of the year.

 

[Godsbrother]

A raw rookie playing for the Browns in extremely cold weather. Yes, the weather is part of the game, but Anderson shows decent poise in the pocket, a live arm (lots of drops) and an ability to scramble. While I'm not sure I think he or Frye is headed to the HoF, watching the Browns lately, it's starting to look like their needs are not most pressing at QB.

I thought that he showed good poise and was the victim of drops too. I am just wondering what you mean by having a "live arm". All he did was dump the ball off or throw short outs to his WRs. I think he only threw one ball that was in the air for more than 20 yards last night.He might indeed have a strong arm but it was not on display last night.

 

[redman]

DA got owned. Big time. He's still a raw rookie talent and he's playing for the Browns. Not a good combo.

No bias here.... 21-37-276-1-1 was pretty good numbers, especially with the drops.

You beat me to the punch. Frankly Roethlisberger has more to be embarrassed about with his 11/21 225 1/0 stat line on his team given the stage of his career and his level of experience than DA had on his team. People resort to this "got owned" business much too readily. It starts to lack meaning after a while.

Dude....Ben won. He didnt have to throw. His RB had 223 yards.....I dont believe he has to be embarrassed about anything he did in the game. You should be embarrassed for your stupid comment.

Dude, Ben couldn't complete more than 50% of his passes playing with a lead? Dude, that's embarrassing. Dude.

 

[phillzphan]

DA got owned. Big time. He's still a raw rookie talent and he's playing for the Browns. Not a good combo.

No bias here.... 21-37-276-1-1 was pretty good numbers, especially with the drops.

You beat me to the punch. Frankly Roethlisberger has more to be embarrassed about with his 11/21 225 1/0 stat line on his team given the stage of his career and his level of experience than DA had on his team. People resort to this "got owned" business much too readily. It starts to lack meaning after a while.

Dude....Ben won. He didnt have to throw. His RB had 223 yards.....I dont believe he has to be embarrassed about anything he did in the game. You should be embarrassed for your stupid comment.

Dude, Ben couldn't complete more than 50% of his passes playing with a lead? Dude, that's embarrassing. Dude.

Ben won the superbowl last year with mediocre stats. Thats all he needs to win. Fantasy stats don't count towards winning games, sorry. His passer rating for the game was 106.2. His passer rating last year, the year they won the superbowl was 98.6. Looks like he played fine to me.And for the record, when a guy says dude one time you probably shouldn't say it three times in an attempt to make him look foolish. You're the only one that looks that way.

 

[Warhogs]

Why do we have to turn a Derek Anderson topic into a Big Ben topic or Cleveland backers vs. Steelers backers? I think this is why we end up with so many threads about 1 player. Everyone goes way off topic. Please reserve this for discussion on Derek Anderson and your thoughts on how he looked and if he has value going forward.