cstu
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I'm from the Midwest and everything rhymes.
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Do "dawn" and "don" rhyme? (1 Viewer)
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mr roboto
Footballguy
Us non-guidos, yes.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
They think meet and meat are pronounced differently....
would you be happy with log-er?log still doesn't sound like la
Sarnoff
Footballguy
So they rhyme then, right? Rhyming words share the same ending sound but have different starting sounds. If log doesn't sound like la then they rhyme because the end sound ger is the same.Dawn and Don do not rhyme because in the pronunciations in which they would rhyme, the first sounds are identical as well. So that's not a rhyme.
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Yes, but I don't think that was the question.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
According to wiktionary, they have the same exact pronunciation.lager: (US) IPA: /ˈlɑːɡɚ/logger: (US) IPA: /ˈlɑːɡɚ/
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
You pronounce both g's in logger?
no, I guess I don'tlager sounds like lah-gerlogger sounds like law-ger
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Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Wait, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you on the Dawn <> Don side of the original discussion?So you think log sounds like lawgTherefore you probably think dog sounds like dawgTherefore you would probably think don sounds like dawnWhat am I missing here?
Dawn sounds like lawn but with a D
Don sounds like dahn
Don sounds like dahn
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Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Right, I agree with all this.But log sounds like lawg?
It can.How do you say it?
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Lahg, I guess. Same vowel sound as Don.
yeah, that doesn't sound right to me.maybe it's not exactly lawg but it's closer to that then the other way.I don't know.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Same in my book.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Yesalso, pawned = pond
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
They sound EXACTLY the same.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Correct.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Incorrect.
cstu
Footballguy
The first syllable of lager and latte are the same.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Probably shouldn't be helping you cheat, but the correct answer is "All three sound different."
the moops
Footballguy
That's what I said.
netnalp
Footballguy
I use lah-ger sound for both.
netnalp
Footballguy
I just didn't answer that one and the questionnaire still worked. I can how they'd be said different but it would take conscious effort for me to say Mary and marry different. To say them different I'd go with sound a likes like Mary = airy and marry = Harry. But if I were to say "I will marry Mary." I sometimes say them different but usually say both like airy.
Like the word orange. I usually say it are-ange but sometimes say it or-ange. Likely due to moving from north New Jersey to Michigan.
netnalp
Footballguy
The first syllable of lager and latte are the same. Yes.logger has first syllable as in the word law. Not for me. Log = Lahg I don't say Log as Lawg.That's what I said.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
I just didn't answer that one and the questionnaire still worked. I can how they'd be said different but it would take conscious effort for me to say Mary and marry different. To say them different I'd go with sound a likes like Mary = airy and marry = Harry. But if I were to say "I will marry Mary." I sometimes say them different but usually say both like airy.
Like the word orange. I usually say it are-ange but sometimes say it or-ange. Likely due to moving from north New Jersey to Michigan.
I agree that Mary = airy and marry = Harry. Also agree with are-ange. Also from north-central NJ here. Sounds like the move to Michigan has messed you up.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
I think he's pointing out that not only do they sound the same, they are the same: la. So you're kind of just saying "la" sounds like "la," which may not be entirely helpful for someone who doesn't know how you pronounce "la."This log = lawg stuff has got to stop.That's what I said.
netnalp
Footballguy
I just didn't answer that one and the questionnaire still worked. I can how they'd be said different but it would take conscious effort for me to say Mary and marry different. To say them different I'd go with sound a likes like Mary = airy and marry = Harry. But if I were to say "I will marry Mary." I sometimes say them different but usually say both like airy.
Like the word orange. I usually say it are-ange but sometimes say it or-ange. Likely due to moving from north New Jersey to Michigan.
Like the word orange. I usually say it are-ange but sometimes say it or-ange. Likely due to moving from north New Jersey to Michigan.
One of my parents was from the south too. So sometimes if I think too much about it, pronunciation becomes a Mexican standoff (or is Latino standoff correct these days). Then I have to back up what I'm saying to get a running start at the word.
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netnalp
Footballguy
Yeah. I live in Michigan now and the people there are very quick to point it out. They explain how in Michigan they don't have and accent. And point out that the major newscasters emulate the way Michiganders talk.I think, that might be true. However, the newscasters don't show the same douchey, holier-than-thou attitude Michiganders have when pointing out someone's accent.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
When Chris Matthews was filming Hardball at different college campuses, he was at Iowa State in 2006 and said the same of Iowa. Having sampled accents of the Midwest, Iowa is definitely more accent free than Michigan. Easily.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
East Coast = correct, imo
Magic Football Shoes
Footballguy
No, dahn sounds like Dan.
Slingblade
Footballguy
If you have a neutral accent then you pronounce these as the same.
Which is howDon = con, Ron, bon (like bon bon)Dawn = fawn, lawnHow I pronounce bon = start saying the name Bob, stop before the second B, add an "n". The "o" is pronounced similarly to a soft "a" sound like in aaaah (sound people make in moviesHow I pronounce lawn = say "law" and add an "n"That test in the link nailed me perfectly.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Don, con, ron, bon, Dawn, fawn, and lawn are all pronounced the same.
Nipsey
Footballguy
The hell they are.
netnalp
Footballguy
Probably. I've had several of these "perfect pronouncing Michiganders" try to say orange isn't a two syllable word. They do this by skipping the "a", saying "orng". Sounds linke the orn- in ornament with -g sound that normally ends orange.
netnalp
Footballguy
Should be. That side of the country was settled first.I once had trouble getting directions in Raleigh, N.C. The way I needed to go involved traveling on Wade Avenue and White Avenue. Each person I stopped to get directions from would say Wade and White the same way. Eventually I found a guy with a Middle Eastern accent that was able to direct me because he spoke those words differently.
netnalp
Footballguy
con isn't like cawn, it's like the con- in connect and contact. Do people really say those words as cawn-nect and cawn-tact?
Magic Football Shoes
Footballguy
I think they say cawn like con, not con like cawn.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
We've been over this again and again. You weirdos from the East Coast talk funny.
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