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Do Democrats want or not want Trump to win the 2024 republican nomination? (1 Viewer)

supermike80

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I say democrats should want it.  Because he's beatable. As shown with Biden.  But I am picking up on such a fear that he does win in 2024.   Why?   Whats the fear?   Why would dems not want a very beatable candidate?

Ok dems.  Make me understand 

 
I say democrats should want it.  Because he's beatable. As shown with Biden.  But I am picking up on such a fear that he does win in 2024.   Why?   Whats the fear?   Why would dems not want a very beatable candidate?

Ok dems.  Make me understand 
I’m not a Democrat but I’ll take a shot.

For me I don’t want him to run because I think he’s got a real shot at winning due to how bad the field will likely be for the Democratic nominees in 24.  Add to that the dissatisfaction many of us in the middle have with how Biden has done it could push votes that went for Biden last time back to Trump.  

 
This isn’t a game to me. I don’t care about “winning”. I say Donald Trump is an existential threat to the United States, and that even his running for office again is poison for us. 
 

If you could guarantee me that Trump would never hold office again, and the trade-off was 20 consecutive years of Republican establishment Presidents, I would gladly take that trade in a heartbeat. 

 
This isn’t a game to me. I don’t care about “winning”. I say Donald Trump is an existential threat to the United States, and that even his running for office again is poison for us. 
 

If you could guarantee me that Trump would never hold office again, and the trade-off was 20 consecutive years of Republican establishment Presidents, I would gladly take that trade in a heartbeat. 
Wonderful.  Try answering the question now???

 
I’m not a Democrat but I’ll take a shot.

For me I don’t want him to run because I think he’s got a real shot at winning due to how bad the field will likely be for the Democratic nominees in 24.  Add to that the dissatisfaction many of us in the middle have with how Biden has done it could push votes that went for Biden last time back to Trump.  
In addition, he should never be anywhere near holding office ever again.  I would much rather the Dems lose the white house and have a normal candidate than Trump ever be on the ballot again.  In fact, if its Biden again, I may even vote for the non-Trump candidate (if it isn’t one of his people)

 
In addition, he should never be anywhere near holding office ever again.  I would much rather the Dems lose the white house and have a normal candidate than Trump ever be on the ballot again.  In fact, if its Biden again, I may even vote for the non-Trump candidate (if it isn’t one of his people)
You guys aren't answering the question.  For the love of God put your emotions aside for 5 minutes,  focus, and answer.   

 
I think Trump is probably easier to beat, but he's also much more likely to destroy democracy in the US.  So, easy call.
So whats that mean?  Do you want him to win the nomination cause he's easy to beat?  There's literally no answer there.

 
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I say democrats should want it.  Because he's beatable. As shown with Biden.  But I am picking up on such a fear that he does win in 2024.   Why?   Whats the fear?   Why would dems not want a very beatable candidate?

Ok dems.  Make me understand 
No.  They don’t want him nominated.

Why?  
1) He will beat Biden this time, easily

2) he’s a massive threat to democracy

3) once he gets back in the White House, he will never leave again — he will push for a 3rd term and his spineless party will support that absurdity (along with any other nonsense he lobbies for)

 
Because who wants to take the chance? 
So.  Just so I understand.  Youd reject Trump winning the nomination, even though he's beatable, and accept a different republican that could beat the dems in 2024? So its not about winning,  its still anyone but Trump?

 
So.  Just so I understand.  Youd reject Trump winning the nomination, even though he's beatable, and accept a different republican that could beat the dems in 2024? So its not about winning,  its still anyone but Trump?
That is what I wrote. 
 

Except- not anyone but Trump. Any reasonable Republican or Democrat. I don’t want some Trump clone, and I don’t want a socialist either. 

 
No.  They don’t want him nominated.

Why?  
1) He will beat Biden this time, easily

2) he’s a massive threat to democracy

3) once he gets back in the White House, he will never leave again — he will push for a 3rd term and his spineless party will support that absurdity (along with any other nonsense he lobbies for)
Why can't dems beat him?  That's my question.  Are you that disillusioned by your party?

If Hillary or Kamala runs in 2024 Republicans woukd be salivating.  Its weird dems are so unsure of themselves

 
That is what I wrote. 
 

Except- not anyone but Trump. Any reasonable Republican or Democrat. I don’t want some Trump clone, and I don’t want a socialist either. 
The question was.  Trump or no.  You said no.  End of that. If you wanna make a new thread do so.  Im asking why you are so afraid of Trump.   This isn't a thread about who you'd want to win.  Its a thread about why not Trump when he is beatable 

 
I don’t want his sleeze anywhere near the WH. He’s bad news for the country. Anyone who gets the nom has a good chance of winning. 

 
You guys aren't answering the question.  For the love of God put your emotions aside for 5 minutes,  focus, and answer.   
Yes…we are.  We don't want Trump ever to be near the office again.  Therefore I don’t want him to ever be on the ballot.  Maybe it helps the Dems…but maybe not.

And because I do care more about country over Party…a Trump vs Biden version two is bad for the country.  And if he runs…it will likely then be Biden again.  And that is bad for this country.

Trump on the ballot at all and what all that brings is bad for the country.

You may not like the answer…but its my answer.  So quit the absolutely bogus claims of emotions for once and just read what people are saying.  Its absolutely ridiculous you keep making these assertions about posters…stop.

 
We saw how unsupported confidence worked out for losing voters in the last two elections. "Unsureness" is the smart approach.**

**This policy naturally doesn't apply to poster-from-the-past BGP.

 
I don’t want his sleeze anywhere near the WH. He’s bad news for the country. Anyone who gets the nom has a good chance of winning. 
Well in theory. But again.  I'll counter and tell you as I said before. If Hillary runs.  Kamala,  Bernie..there wouldn't be many Republicans that would be worried about that. In fact I think they would welcome it.  Yet democrats are terrified of Trump.  Who already lost, to a feeble old man.  Are the Democratic party options that lousy it isn't enough to overcome such a terrible option?

 
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Yes…we are.  We don't want Trump ever to be near the office again.  Therefore I don’t want him to ever be on the ballot.  Maybe it helps the Dems…but maybe not.

And because I do care more about country over Party…a Trump vs Biden version two is bad for the country.  And if he runs…it will likely then be Biden again.  And that is bad for this country.

Trump on the ballot at all and what all that brings is bad for the country.

You may not like the answer…but its my answer.  So quit the absolutely bogus claims of emotions for once and just read what people are saying.  Its absolutely ridiculous you keep making these assertions about posters…stop.
So emotions first and foremost.  Ok.  I can respect that

 
Why can't dems beat him?  That's my question.  Are you that disillusioned by your party?

If Hillary or Kamala runs in 2024 Republicans woukd be salivating.  Its weird dems are so unsure of themselves
Because he was as awful as he was the first time and then still was that close that it took record numbers of votes.

And I don’t even care if he is beatable or not…what it means before and after the election is bad for the country.

 
Well im theory. But again.  I'll counter and tell you as I saud before. If Hillary runs.  Kamala,  Bernie..there wouldn't be many Republicans tgat woukd be worried about that. In fact I think they would welcone it.  Yet democrats are terrified of Trump.  Who already lost, to a feeble old man.  Is the Democratic party options that lousy it isn't enough to overcome such a terrible option?
If he’s not the nom what are his chances of being Prez?

 
Because he was as awful as he was the first time and then still was that close that it took record numbers of votes.

And I don’t even care if he is beatable or not…what it means before and after the election is bad for the country.
I understand. Even if the dems would crush him in the election, emotionally you can't handle him winning the Republican nom again.  Thats fine.  

 
Why can't dems beat him?  That's my question.  Are you that disillusioned by your party?

If Hillary or Kamala runs in 2024 Republicans woukd be salivating.  Its weird dems are so unsure of themselves
Why are you attributing this to me?  I’m telling you what lots of Dems think, not what I think.  You didn’t ask “what do you want?” you asked “what do Dems want?”

Biden is a horrible candidate. He will lose to any Republican candidate, including Trump.   And many Dems fear Trump for reasons 2 and 3 above.

 
No…as I have said no and stop with that emotions BS.
How is it not emotional?  You came right put and said you don't care if he's beatable or not.  That makes no sense.  If he was guaranteed to lose why would you care if he got the nom?  He's gonna LOSE!!

what you say makes no sense at all 

 
Why are you attributing this to me?  I’m telling you what lots of Dems think, not what I think.  You didn’t ask “what do you want?” you asked “what do Dems want?”

Biden is a horrible candidate. He will lose to any Republican candidate, including Trump.   And many Dems fear Trump for reasons 2 and 3 above.
Not personal.  Asking a question.  Never personal.  Breathe. Relax.  Focus. 

 
I understand. Even if the dems would crush him in the election, emotionally you can't handle him winning the Republican nom again.  Thats fine.  
There is zero explanation why you keep pushing that its just emotional on me and others.  We have explained to  you how its not that.  Have asked you to stop.  Yet you keep ignoring all that is said and wrongly stating its just emotional.  How is that anything other than trolling at this point?

 
At a much more liberal board last year, the predictions were about evenly split before the elections. Among the liberal posters, that is. The small number of conservatives were nearly unanimous that Trump was gonna win.

FBG Trumpies were also way more confident than the libbies, too. They still are.

 
There is zero explanation why you keep pushing that its just emotional on me and others.  We have explained to  you how its not that.  Have asked you to stop.  Yet you keep ignoring all that is said and wrongly stating its just emotional.  How is that anything other than trolling at this point?
I'm not trolling man. You keep giving me emotional responses then say jts not emotional.  

 
Just hearing this guy’s BS for months on end as the nom is reason enough to not want him not be a part of the process. 
But if you can crush him in 2024 don't you want that? Don't you want a dem president in 2024? And doesn't trumps idiocy help that happen?

 
I'd change my tune if Republicans ran somebody worse than The Don. But I don't know if a person like that exists who could win the nomination.

 
I'd change my tune if Republicans ran somebody worse than The Don. But I don't know if a person like that exists who could win the nomination.
I doubt that coukd happen as well. But id think as democrats youd wanna run against the worst possible option.  Isn't Trump that guy?

 
mention Trump & the hate comes out.  he got things done but was not part of the Washington elite, like Biden or Hillary.   seems some/most people want nice obedient politicians.  I want people that do things good for our country.  hate-pure hate at the mention of his name from Dems.  it's okay.  it is what it is.

 
But if you can crush him in 2024 don't you want that? Don't you want a dem president in 2024? And doesn't trumps idiocy help that happen?
Why welcome this option? Trump is very beatable but if he wins, well then we get 4 years of nonsense, if he loses he summons riots and convinces his people the results and elections are fake.

I’ll take a pass on the whole thing. 

 
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