Do we need to go back to Week 16 Championships? (1 Viewer)

[Smack Tripper]

I think fantasy is downstream of nfl outcomes and opportunities. It feels like going to a 7th playoff team should have opened up more teams to playing but Ironcially losing the 2nd bye has stripped a lot of outcome intrigue.

I’m not firm on going back to week 16 but feels like a lot of big players are somewhat optionally sitting because of our landscape of the real playoffs.

Last week we had a fuller slate of talent.

But maybe I hate this janky Christmas six day week

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

I'm with you on this and have mentioned it to a few owners as well. This Christmas week has had some bad football and it seems like way more players than usual are getting very late "out" declarations. I'd like to remove one regular season week and go back to a week 16 championship.

 

[Riffraff]

Not if the Wildcard round has 6 teams on a bye...

 

[Mitchie]

It can be a little more unpredictable, but injuries happen every week, a lot of the guys who were out would've been out anyway. Just trying to think of guys who were shut down who might've played if they were in the playoff hunt and Lamb is coming to mind, possibly Tua but Miami still had an outside shot of the playoffs so not so sure, maybe a few others and some that maybe we don't know about, but really doesn't seem like that many. There's a lot of luck in this game that's just the reality.

 

[Chaka]

I'm not thinking clearly apparently but, who is sitting today that is causing concern?

 

[houston]

I’ve done this for 20+ years. There have always been some injuries and some weird surprise starters in the second-to-last of the regular season (ie championship week).

 

[Smack Tripper]

I'm not thinking clearly apparently but, who is sitting today that is causing concern?

No one can know for sure the extent of injuries but Richardson sat (After the colts eliminated) and hurts seemed to have no push for the concussion protocol, they also had little on the line

Chuba went on IR, Pollard scratched, those jump out at me

 

[BassNBrew]

I'm not thinking clearly apparently but, who is sitting today that is causing concern?

The follow guys were in my lineup at the start of the week and projected by FBG to score points...Chubba, CeeDee, Olave. I had to go to the wire for Patrick to field a WR because Kupp was the only guy on my roster starting. Wish he had been Ir'd too.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Last year was perfect. I backed into the playoffs, stayed healthy, beat the 1-seed in the 1st round (15), smoked my opponent in the 2nd (16) then took down the championship in a close, gritty game (17). Didn’t have 1 starter out.

This year I made the LCG in 2 leagues. In one 16 team league my IR looks like they’d be a quality starting lineup. I was the 1-seed, and got hosed by the Weds Xmas game. By the time the weekend was here I’d lost Lamb & Chubba, and had already left Warren’s 21 on my bench. Lost my DE1 (Maxx), my LB1 (Al-Shaair - S) my CB1 (Horn) and my best safety. All in the span of 2 weeks.

So it depends when you ask me. Right now I’d say absolutely we need to go back to a week 16 LCG.

But next year I might say something different.

Mostly tongue-in-cheek - I think I just had awful luck this year.

 

[zamboni]

I don’t think week 16 or 17 makes a difference - guys get hurt all the time and we just get good/bad luck out of it.

Perhaps a lesson learned for next year is to start focusing earlier on our players’ NFL team playoff situation. But not sure that will matter at the end of the day.

 

[Mitchie]

I'm not thinking clearly apparently but, who is sitting today that is causing concern?

No one can know for sure the extent of injuries but Richardson sat (After the colts eliminated) and hurts seemed to have no push for the concussion protocol, they also had little on the line

Chuba went on IR, Pollard scratched, those jump out at me

Colts still had a small chance i believe going into today, the concussion protocol is done by independent doctors, most players don't play the week after, Pollards been hurt for a few weeks, not sure about Hubbard but doubt they would shut him down if he wasn't hurt

 

[Mitchie]

I'm not thinking clearly apparently but, who is sitting today that is causing concern?

The follow guys were in my lineup at the start of the week and projected by FBG to score points...Chubba, CeeDee, Olave. I had to go to the wire for Patrick to field a WR because Kupp was the only guy on my roster starting. Wish he had been Ir'd too.

Olave playing was a long shot, not sure why FBG was projecting him for points.

 

[Chaka]

I'm not thinking clearly apparently but, who is sitting today that is causing concern?

No one can know for sure the extent of injuries but Richardson sat (After the colts eliminated) and hurts seemed to have no push for the concussion protocol, they also had little on the line

Chuba went on IR, Pollard scratched, those jump out at me

With Denver's loss, I don't think the Colts were eliminated going into today. Hurts had to clear the protocol no matter what, he didn't.

Pollard and Chuba? Okay.

 

[BassNBrew]

I'm not thinking clearly apparently but, who is sitting today that is causing concern?

The follow guys were in my lineup at the start of the week and projected by FBG to score points...Chubba, CeeDee, Olave. I had to go to the wire for Patrick to field a WR because Kupp was the only guy on my roster starting. Wish he had been Ir'd too.

Olave playing was a long shot, not sure why FBG was projecting him for points.

Three straight full practices.

 

[Chaka]

Nothing stopping anyone from shifting their Championship game to week 16.

 

[Mitchie]

I'm not thinking clearly apparently but, who is sitting today that is causing concern?

The follow guys were in my lineup at the start of the week and projected by FBG to score points...Chubba, CeeDee, Olave. I had to go to the wire for Patrick to field a WR because Kupp was the only guy on my roster starting. Wish he had been Ir'd too.

Olave playing was a long shot, not sure why FBG was projecting him for points.

Three straight full practices.

yes but dude hasn't played in like 8 weeks due to serious concussion concerns, seemed pretty doubtful they'd roll him out for some meaningless game to catch passes from a backup QB

 

[Chaka]

I'm not thinking clearly apparently but, who is sitting today that is causing concern?

The follow guys were in my lineup at the start of the week and projected by FBG to score points...Chubba, CeeDee, Olave. I had to go to the wire for Patrick to field a WR because Kupp was the only guy on my roster starting. Wish he had been Ir'd too.

Olave playing was a long shot, not sure why FBG was projecting him for points.

Three straight full practices.

Fair.

Then again I think it is fair to say that Chris Olave was not an integral piece of anyone's championship run this year. My guess is most Olave managers probably had a clearly established replacement by now.

 

[BassNBrew]

I'm not thinking clearly apparently but, who is sitting today that is causing concern?

The follow guys were in my lineup at the start of the week and projected by FBG to score points...Chubba, CeeDee, Olave. I had to go to the wire for Patrick to field a WR because Kupp was the only guy on my roster starting. Wish he had been Ir'd too.

Olave playing was a long shot, not sure why FBG was projecting him for points.

Three straight full practices.

Fair.

Then again I think it is fair to say that Chris Olave was not an integral piece of anyone's championship run this year. My guess is most Olave managers probably had a clearly established replacement by now.

Yeah...Tillman and Dell.

I rolled the dice on him being back and was wrong. Just sucks that the rest of my WRs bit the dust in the last two weeks.

 

[BassNBrew]

I'm not thinking clearly apparently but, who is sitting today that is causing concern?

The follow guys were in my lineup at the start of the week and projected by FBG to score points...Chubba, CeeDee, Olave. I had to go to the wire for Patrick to field a WR because Kupp was the only guy on my roster starting. Wish he had been Ir'd too.

Olave playing was a long shot, not sure why FBG was projecting him for points.

Three straight full practices.

Fair.

Then again I think it is fair to say that Chris Olave was not an integral piece of anyone's championship run this year. My guess is most Olave managers probably had a clearly established replacement by now.

Should have picked up Mozart from Washington instead.

 

[houston]

Injuries suck whenever they happen. All part of the game. I’m all for stretching the regular season as long as possible. Give yourself a better chance to qualify for the playoffs.

 

[-OZ-]

If the goal is to have the “best team win”, total points or all play are the ways to do that.

Fwiw, my main league has a two week championship - 17 and 18.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Most of the playoff positions were wrapped up - rn there’s only 18 teams still alive, which seems lower than normal?

Also, a metric ton of WR1s missed time this year or are hurt rn. For explosive week winners you’ve got Chase and that’s about it.

There were explosive weeks that won championships per usual, though - Tee, Nabors, BTJ.

All that said, going to one team getting a bye and letting a janky 7 seed in did not improve the product. MNF playoff games are silly.

But no way those greedy ****s will ever do the right thing. TNF is a disaster & they’ll never give it up. Next year Christmas is on a Thursday, probably give us a triple header nobody wants.

 

[Dizzy]

It was weird this year. My thoughts are that it had more to do with those Wednesday games occurring before any real injury reports kicked in. Caught guys out with back-ups and/or potential starters that already played earlier in the week not being available.

 

[Dez]

Wait till we have 18 games and either 19 or 20 week seasons with double byes and how far that will push it out

 

[Chaka]

Most of the playoff positions were wrapped up - rn there’s only 18 teams still alive, which seems lower than normal?

Also, a metric ton of WR1s missed time this year or are hurt rn. For explosive week winners you’ve got Chase and that’s about it.

There were explosive weeks that won championships per usual, though - Tee, Nabors, BTJ.

All that said, going to one team getting a bye and letting a janky 7 seed in did not improve the product. MNF playoff games are silly.

But no way those greedy ****s will ever do the right thing. TNF is a disaster & they’ll never give it up. Next year Christmas is on a Thursday, probably give us a triple header nobody wants.

A triple header nobody wants but everyone will watch.

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

I know a lot of football fans that didn't watch a single second this year on Wednesday.

 

[Dizzy]

I know a lot of football fans that didn't watch a single second this year on Wednesday.

How many? The projected ratings suggest otherwise.

 

[BespokeJort]

I know a lot of football fans that didn't watch a single second this year on Wednesday.

How many? The projected ratings suggest otherwise.

I’m one of em (the spreading out to Netflix lost me as much as anything; I don’t/won’t sub to Netflix)

 

[BobbyLayne]

Most of the playoff positions were wrapped up - rn there’s only 18 teams still alive, which seems lower than normal?

Also, a metric ton of WR1s missed time this year or are hurt rn. For explosive week winners you’ve got Chase and that’s about it.

There were explosive weeks that won championships per usual, though - Tee, Nabors, BTJ.

All that said, going to one team getting a bye and letting a janky 7 seed in did not improve the product. MNF playoff games are silly.

But no way those greedy ****s will ever do the right thing. TNF is a disaster & they’ll never give it up. Next year Christmas is on a Thursday, probably give us a triple header nobody wants.

A triple header nobody wants but everyone will watch.

I've avoided most of the football the last 11 days. I like all things in moderation. Besides, there are a lot of bad football teams out there, and it's not worth my time to invest in watching bad games.

 

[Chaka]

Most of the playoff positions were wrapped up - rn there’s only 18 teams still alive, which seems lower than normal?

Also, a metric ton of WR1s missed time this year or are hurt rn. For explosive week winners you’ve got Chase and that’s about it.

There were explosive weeks that won championships per usual, though - Tee, Nabors, BTJ.

All that said, going to one team getting a bye and letting a janky 7 seed in did not improve the product. MNF playoff games are silly.

But no way those greedy ****s will ever do the right thing. TNF is a disaster & they’ll never give it up. Next year Christmas is on a Thursday, probably give us a triple header nobody wants.

A triple header nobody wants but everyone will watch.

I've avoided most of the football the last 11 days. I like all things in moderation. Besides, there are a lot of bad football teams out there, and it's not worth my time to invest in watching bad games.

Denver v Cinci was a heckuva game, with meaningful implications.

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

I know a lot of football fans that didn't watch a single second this year on Wednesday.

How many? The projected ratings suggest otherwise.

Me for one, but probably at least half of the owners in all of my fantasy leagues. I checked out the scores and stats a bit online but I'm not dedicating Christmas time to watch.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Most of the playoff positions were wrapped up - rn there’s only 18 teams still alive, which seems lower than normal?

Also, a metric ton of WR1s missed time this year or are hurt rn. For explosive week winners you’ve got Chase and that’s about it.

There were explosive weeks that won championships per usual, though - Tee, Nabors, BTJ.

All that said, going to one team getting a bye and letting a janky 7 seed in did not improve the product. MNF playoff games are silly.

But no way those greedy ****s will ever do the right thing. TNF is a disaster & they’ll never give it up. Next year Christmas is on a Thursday, probably give us a triple header nobody wants.

A triple header nobody wants but everyone will watch.

I've avoided most of the football the last 11 days. I like all things in moderation. Besides, there are a lot of bad football teams out there, and it's not worth my time to invest in watching bad games.

Denver v Cinci was a heckuva game, with meaningful implications.

Exhibit A of bad coaching decisions. 1st & goal at the 6, 1:39 left, Denver was down to 1 timeout. This should have been automatic:

• 1:39 - first and goal - KNEEL Denver uses last timeout
• 1:36 - second and goal - KNEEL Run 40 seconds off clock
• 0:54 - third and goal - KNEEL Run 40 seconds off clock
• 0:12 - fourth and goal - GW FG
• 20-17 with 10 seconds left

Instead they run Chase Brown and have to use their own timeout because of an injury.

I wish that was the only bad coach's decision we saw in that end game. It was so bad I thought they were trolling each other.

Also, regardless of what it's for, ain't no way either of those teams (if they even manage to get in) is winning 3 straight road playoff games.

But I'm starting to sound like a curmudgeon yelling at clouds so I'll just agree with you and say yup, my loss not seeing all the good football that was on this weekend. Yep.

 

[Chaka]

Most of the playoff positions were wrapped up - rn there’s only 18 teams still alive, which seems lower than normal?

Also, a metric ton of WR1s missed time this year or are hurt rn. For explosive week winners you’ve got Chase and that’s about it.

There were explosive weeks that won championships per usual, though - Tee, Nabors, BTJ.

All that said, going to one team getting a bye and letting a janky 7 seed in did not improve the product. MNF playoff games are silly.

But no way those greedy ****s will ever do the right thing. TNF is a disaster & they’ll never give it up. Next year Christmas is on a Thursday, probably give us a triple header nobody wants.

A triple header nobody wants but everyone will watch.

I've avoided most of the football the last 11 days. I like all things in moderation. Besides, there are a lot of bad football teams out there, and it's not worth my time to invest in watching bad games.

Denver v Cinci was a heckuva game, with meaningful implications.

Exhibit A of bad coaching decisions. 1st & goal at the 6, 1:39 left, Denver was down to 1 timeout. This should have been automatic:

• 1:39 - first and goal - KNEEL Denver uses last timeout
• 1:36 - second and goal - KNEEL Run 40 seconds off clock
• 0:54 - third and goal - KNEEL Run 40 seconds off clock
• 0:12 - fourth and goal - GW FG
• 20-17 with 10 seconds left

Instead they run Chase Brown and have to use their own timeout because of an injury.

I wish that was the only bad coach's decision we saw in that end game. It was so bad I thought they were trolling each other.

Also, regardless of what it's for, ain't no way either of those teams (if they even manage to get in) is winning 3 straight road playoff games.

But I'm starting to sound like a curmudgeon yelling at clouds so I'll just agree with you and say yup, my loss not seeing all the good football that was on this weekend. Yep.

I saw the game. It was really fun to watch.

 

[Chaka]

@BobbyLayne I find watching the NFL is a lot more enjoyable when you remove the stakes of fantasy football and wannabe coaching.

 

[Insein]

Not if the Wildcard round has 6 teams on a bye...

This is what would ruin it.

 

[zamboni]

Nothing stopping anyone from shifting their Championship game to week 16.

True, but I would strongly be against my leagues doing that. The season is short/fast enough as it is - I would want more rather than less time dedicated to it.

 

[kylechoffman]

The injuries plus the games over 5 days this week has been brutal.

 

[FairWarning]

Most of the playoff positions were wrapped up - rn there’s only 18 teams still alive, which seems lower than normal?

Also, a metric ton of WR1s missed time this year or are hurt rn. For explosive week winners you’ve got Chase and that’s about it.

There were explosive weeks that won championships per usual, though - Tee, Nabors, BTJ.

All that said, going to one team getting a bye and letting a janky 7 seed in did not improve the product. MNF playoff games are silly.

But no way those greedy ****s will ever do the right thing. TNF is a disaster & they’ll never give it up. Next year Christmas is on a Thursday, probably give us a triple header nobody wants.

At least the triple header will be on a regular game day. The bigger issue is week 14 byes. The league should have their byes over 4 weeks and by division. Example - week 7, the afc east and the nfc south are on bye, week 8, two more, and on…

 

[FairWarning]

Nothing stopping anyone from shifting their Championship game to week 16.

True, but I would strongly be against my leagues doing that. The season is short/fast enough as it is - I would want more rather than less time dedicated to it.

We do total score now, pay out the top 4 teams. The best teams are rewarded. We also pay the top scoring one week lineup, and the high one week score by position so everyone has a chance to the end.

 

[Boston]

Maybe I am reading this wrong but playing a week 16 fantasy championship is not realistic for leagues that have quarter-final playoff match-ups because there are week 14 byes.

 

[Buckna]

It was weird this year. My thoughts are that it had more to do with those Wednesday games occurring before any real injury reports kicked in. Caught guys out with back-ups and/or potential starters that already played earlier in the week not being available.

Was going to post something similar. The Wed games left a lot of people scrambling when some high profile guys suddenly got declared out or on IR. Plus those 4 teams on Wed are some of the bigger fantasy impacts due to their offenses. So it seems pretty pronounced this year with the impact of late season shutdowns

 

[Bad_Mo2]

Most of the playoff positions were wrapped up - rn there’s only 18 teams still alive, which seems lower than normal?

Also, a metric ton of WR1s missed time this year or are hurt rn. For explosive week winners you’ve got Chase and that’s about it.

There were explosive weeks that won championships per usual, though - Tee, Nabors, BTJ.

All that said, going to one team getting a bye and letting a janky 7 seed in did not improve the product. MNF playoff games are silly.

But no way those greedy ****s will ever do the right thing. TNF is a disaster & they’ll never give it up. Next year Christmas is on a Thursday, probably give us a triple header nobody wants.

At least the triple header will be on a regular game day. The bigger issue is week 14 byes. The league should have their byes over 4 weeks and by division. Example - week 7, the afc east and the nfc south are on bye, week 8, two more, and on…

Agree. We have 2 14 team divisions and have to start playoffs week 15 due to so many players on a BYE for week 14. Makes for a weird week 18 championship but teams have to put in work this week to figure things out so that is kind of interesting.

 

[jobarules]

Nobody really was rested strategically this week. Yeah some injured guys missed time and we're probably shut down early but a bunch of injured guys keeps playing even though they're out of it. I don't think it was anything extraordinary.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Nobody really was rested strategically this week. Yeah some injured guys missed time and we're probably shut down early but a bunch of injured guys keeps playing even though they're out of it. I don't think it was anything extraordinary.

Well year end has weird one off things in the final week, almost always (or so it seems).

The Giants have the worst offense in the NFL. Putting up 45 and Drew Lock accounting for 5 TDs is pretty weird.

 

[jobarules]

I think the week being spread out between 2 games wed, one game thu, 3 games sat, and only 2 4pm Sunday games made this whole week feel more like a chore than a fantasy championship week/celebration.

 

[eighsse2]

I think teams having their seed locked up before week 17 is pretty rare. Was that even the case for any team this year?

 

[zamboni]

I think the week being spread out between 2 games wed, one game thu, 3 games sat, and only 2 4pm Sunday games made this whole week feel more like a chore than a fantasy championship week/celebration.

Agree with this - definitely created a lot of anxiety about whether to start guys on Wednesday because we had no practice reports to go on for the Sat/Sun games for the next iffy guys. And of course, ultimately led to starter’s remorse.

But the NFL is gonna NFL.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Not if the Wildcard round has 6 teams on a bye...

This is where I'm at. My league has a 3 week postseason so starting in week 14 would be way bigger of a problem than any potential benchings in week 17 of an 18 week season.

 

[renesauz]

I don’t think week 16 or 17 makes a difference - guys get hurt all the time and we just get good/bad luck out of it.

Perhaps a lesson learned for next year is to start focusing earlier on our players’ NFL team playoff situation. But not sure that will matter at the end of the day.

I'm sitting here sweating Goff. ONly need an average game from him but can't imagine them putting him at risk for more then 2 or 3 series. In a deep superflex league there really wasn't anything close to put in his place even if I had counted on this scenario.

Would be nice if the NFL would treat week 17 like they do week 18, and move games around to help ensure maximum competitiveness. Forget the MNF game and forget the Thursday/Saturday WEDNESDAY?! BS

 

[renesauz]

Most of the playoff positions were wrapped up - rn there’s only 18 teams still alive, which seems lower than normal?

Also, a metric ton of WR1s missed time this year or are hurt rn. For explosive week winners you’ve got Chase and that’s about it.

There were explosive weeks that won championships per usual, though - Tee, Nabors, BTJ.

All that said, going to one team getting a bye and letting a janky 7 seed in did not improve the product. MNF playoff games are silly.

But no way those greedy ****s will ever do the right thing. TNF is a disaster & they’ll never give it up. Next year Christmas is on a Thursday, probably give us a triple header nobody wants.

At least the triple header will be on a regular game day. The bigger issue is week 14 byes. The league should have their byes over 4 weeks and by division. Example - week 7, the afc east and the nfc south are on bye, week 8, two more, and on…

Agree. We have 2 14 team divisions and have to start playoffs week 15 due to so many players on a BYE for week 14. Makes for a weird week 18 championship but teams have to put in work this week to figure things out so that is kind of interesting.

week 18 is nuts, just do a four team game on week 17