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Scroll back and get the context. Tim gave him credit for reducing childhood poverty. Turns out it was only temporary. It’s nice that he made a short term dent, but it’s odd for tim to take a victory lap on this topic literally while the short term improvements are being reversed.
He had a solid reputation and relationship with our intelligence team…yeah he had issues too. But again, as the article stated…it was not just reported as as if those things were fact.
That’s correct. But consider that Biden only came into office with a Democrat majority by tie breaker- and that only happened because of a huge upset in Georgia at the last second. And he’s President at a time where the two parties are divided like never before in our modern history- there is virtually NO bipartisanship.. So from the very beginning he’s been dependent on 100% agreement from all Democrats and that means the conservative Democrat from West Virginia as well.
This is tiresome, @ekbeats your arguments, your positions aren’t tiresome, what’s tiresome is you’re attempting to assign motives to those that disagree with you. I will repeat what I told @Alex P Keaton: some of us are genuine in our admiration of Joe Biden’s presidency. We have reason to be. We are expressing honest opinions, not talking points.
I think HW Bush and Clinton were both good presidents. Obama definitely above W , Trump and Biden. But those last three have been bad.
So tone deaf. Your entire to assign motives to others and force them into arguments. You turn every discussion into conservatives vs liberals. Anything involving race. Sexism. You’re even defending yourself here as if being like a trump supporter is the only alternative. Talk about tiresome…
This is about 80% of the driving force of the "discussions" in these threads. Every once in awhile we will have a thread where we realize that most of us operate in the middle, but then a day later as a collective it's right back to the handful of people arguing with each other just because, or tribal pot shots.
I agree with you. But I disagree with the post that you responded to which accuses me of being one of the main people doing this. I’m probably guilty of a lot of things in this forum, but I don’t believe taking tribal pots is one of them.
You can accuse me of "stalking" for the next 100 days like you've done every day this week to deflect from your own awful posts. But it doesn't change the fact that my post is 100% accurate and you do declare almost everything about sides. Sorry you don't like to hear it but I'll repeat it 1000 times, if necessary, like you do every topic.
I’m sure you will repeat it 1000 times. I don’t need to accuse you of stalking, because you provide plenty of evidence of it. If my posts are so awful, why respond to them at all? Why is this “necessary”, to use your words?
But wait, Biden campaigned that due his extensive Washington experience he could work both sides of the isle, and he had done it for years as a senator.
Yes. Like every person who has ever run for President, Biden made several promises that were obviously untrue or, even if he believed them at the time, he hasn’t been able to achieve. I don’t hold him (or any other President, including the last one) responsible for failing to achieve campaign promises. But a lot of people always will.
I just made a comment about a discussion in this thread. I'll continue to do so if I choose. I don't need you telling me what need to respond to.
We agree to disagree on this. I know lots of people are also waiting for student loan forgiveness that Biden promised as well.
Think about your argument here: Biden promises to forgive student loans but he can’t get it done because 100% of Republicans are against it. So voters should punish Biden by voting Republican? Does that make logical sense to you?
Which came on the heals of complaining about Biden being unable to keep his campaign promise of being able to work with both sides of the isle to get things done. It's really easy to undermine that promise and ensure he can't keep it when one side of the isle completely refuses to work with him. Then to go and complain that it is his fault he can't?
Just curious - how much blame to you put on the POTUS for not joining the parties vs. the other 100s of elected officials in Washington who 100% vote on party lines?
I think criticizing Biden for this good policy not sticking because of congress is at least a little crazy.
Every child that’s in hunger and need of shelter that is fed and housed even for a little while is a good thing. I wish we could have made it permanent. , but I’m glad that got help while it lasted and I’m grateful to the politicians who made that happen.
By a 50-50 vote. But Manchin, Sinema, and 100% of Republicans refused to extend child poverty relief. Shall we blame Biden for this? Shall we reward Republicans by voting more of them in? I don’t get the logic to this.
Unless the POTUS himself is sowing discord and division along party lines there is minimal blame to be laid at his feet. So, 1/536th blame is appropriate. This would apply to any president attempting to truly work with both sides.
If it were a priority then more people with that agenda item would be voted in. When that doesn't happen it's the public saying it's not a priority.
That’s making a big assumption that people vote people in with their best interests in mind and then hold people accountable with their next vote. We all know that isn’t happening.
Personally if Trump ran vs Biden this November, Trump would win because there is enough anti-left in how things have gone in his term. It’s a shame because we are just settling for the less-bad candidate instead of voting based on a platform (remember those).
Against Trump…I think so. But i dont see as much if that hard core left here as some try to claim.
I agree with this. Their is so much disappointment with the Dems, the GOP can run anyone and win.
You’re right. That was a lousy post by me and I deleted it. Apologies to @sho nuff, you, @Alex P Keaton and anyone else it may have offended.
Just to be clear, I’m not offended at all. But regardless, I commend you for your post. It’s cool when folks on these boards can disagree in a civil manner and apologize when stuff happens.
1. Can you explain to me why you seem to be normalizing this behavior?
Sure.
There is a difference between promising a bunch of stuff and saying F off once you get in office vs. promising something, trying, but getting shut down by Congress. Sure, they both failed to deliver on a campaign promise, but it's not the same.
Lots of assumptions in this statement. Not far fetched, but assumptions nonetheless. One of the larger one being districts actually representing the people in them and then the districts being representative of the state. We know, in many instances, this is the opposite of reality.
We deserve better, and should be demanding better instead of excusing it with “they all do it”
You come up with a viable candidate, from either party, willing to be honest about what they can do once in office and I will happily vote for him or her, all other issues aside. All you need to do is come up with one.
And each of those times he's been squashed by his own party in the primaries. His fault for promising impossible items, or does the fault lie elsewhere?
The fault resides with us. If we didn't respond to this behavior then we wouldn't get it.
I imagine the midterms are going to be an eye-opening disaster for the Dems and will make Biden look worse than he does today. The economy is a big driver of citizen happiness and view of POTUS. With prices of most everything going through the roof, many can’t be pleased with the job Biden has done so far. Throw in the ongoing border crisis and some of us are also annoyed and disgusted. Our government continuing to spend money like a drunken HS girl with her daddy’s credit card will continue to drive up inflation. This can’t end well.
