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Does anyone have a Portis update? (1 Viewer)

greggorymac

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Just curious if anyone has heard how his rehab is going? Anything in the Washington local media? Anyone attending training camps? Is he back on the practice field or is he rehabbing behind doors? Please let me know if anyone has anything.

 
Just curious if anyone has heard how his rehab is going? Anything in the Washington local media? Anyone attending training camps? Is he back on the practice field or is he rehabbing behind doors? Please let me know if anyone has anything.
I was looking for information on this myself today and really couldn't seem to find anything recent on the injury or how the rehab is progressing. Hopefully, someone in the DC area will be able to add some local flavor if anything is being heard in that region.
 
I live in DC and there really has not been much in the way of substantive updates on Portis, other than he's shut down for the preseason. But everyone knows that already. Not much on the progress of his rehab.

 
Redskins RB Clinton Portis said in an interview with Adam Schefter, that he will not rush himself back from injury and risk re-injuring himself again later on. He said he is leaving everything in the doctors hands as of right now.

 
Redskins RB Clinton Portis said in an interview with Adam Schefter, that he will not rush himself back from injury and risk re-injuring himself again later on. He said he is leaving everything in the doctors hands as of right now.
I think I'm glad I passed on him...
 
After those comments, darn sure I am glad I passed on him. Portis' comments indicate to me that he doesn't feel close to good.

I had this injury before and he will have cronic problems, my opinion of course.

 
After those comments, darn sure I am glad I passed on him. Portis' comments indicate to me that he doesn't feel close to good. I had this injury before and he will have cronic problems, my opinion of course.
I had this injury before and was back in actaion in about a month/month in hlaf with no problems afterwards what so ever.
 
Redskins RB Portis says pain is still there

Written by: Gary Fitzgerald ¦ 8/21/2006

Source: www.redskins.com

Still nursing a sore shoulder, Clinton Portis was back on the Redskins Park practice fields on Monday, working out on his own while his teammates went through a rigorous practice.

Portis, minus the sling he wore most of last week to protect his injured shoulder, did some stretching and light running during the Redskins' afternoon session.

"It feels okay," Portis said afterwards. "The pain is still there, but as far as my movement and being able to do everything, I feel fine."

It has been eight days since Portis suffered a partially separated shoulder injury in the Aug. 13 preseason game against the Cincinnati Bengals.

Portis is expected to be sidelined for the remainder of preseason. Coaches and team officials are hopeful that he will be ready for Redskins' regular season opener on Sept. 11, against the Minnesota Vikings at FedExField.

Portis said he had a similar shoulder injury during his senior year in high school.

"That has helped me because I know what to expect [from the healing process]," he said. "The other good thing about it is, I'm not in a rush to get back and there's time for me to get fully healthy so it's not nagging throughout the season."

With Portis sidelined, running backs Ladell Betts, Rock Cartwright and Nehemiah Broughton have gotten the bulk of carries in preseason action. Running back Jesse Lumsden and newcomer A.J. Harris, signed last week, are also in the mix.

http://www.redskins.com

 
After those comments, darn sure I am glad I passed on him. Portis' comments indicate to me that he doesn't feel close to good. I had this injury before and he will have cronic problems, my opinion of course.
I had this injury before and was back in actaion in about a month/month in hlaf with no problems afterwards what so ever.
I think it all depends how "far" it was dislocated. Also, I didn't take a month off. I kept playing, in fact after the shoulder dislocated, I just played the rest of the game and the shoulder continued to make all kinds of noises, etc. 5 weeks later it totally dislocated and a doctor had to put it back into place.I was surprised to hear that Portis had this injury in high school and I still wonder if his shoulder injury at the end of last year is to this same shoulder.Regardless, I bet Portis gets some work done on that shoulder in the offseason.
 
"That has helped me because I know what to expect [from the healing process]," he said. "The other good thing about it is, I'm not in a rush to get back and there's time for me to get fully healthy so it's not nagging throughout the season."
It seems to me that this quote says he believes the preseason is plenty of time to heal. You would think that he understands the importance of Week 1, and believes he'll be there when he's needed.Am I reading to much into this?
 
After those comments, darn sure I am glad I passed on him. Portis' comments indicate to me that he doesn't feel close to good. I had this injury before and he will have cronic problems, my opinion of course.
I had this injury before and was back in actaion in about a month/month in hlaf with no problems afterwards what so ever.
I think it all depends how "far" it was dislocated. Also, I didn't take a month off. I kept playing, in fact after the shoulder dislocated, I just played the rest of the game and the shoulder continued to make all kinds of noises, etc. 5 weeks later it totally dislocated and a doctor had to put it back into place.I was surprised to hear that Portis had this injury in high school and I still wonder if his shoulder injury at the end of last year is to this same shoulder.Regardless, I bet Portis gets some work done on that shoulder in the offseason.
The high school injury was the other shoulder.
 
Redskins | Portis does some light running

Monday Published Mon Aug 21 11:45:00 p.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis (shoulder) did some stretching and light running Monday, Aug. 21. He did not wear the sling that he wore last week to protect his injured shoulder. "It feels okay. The pain is still there, but as far as my movement and being able to do everything, I feel fine," said Portis. He added he had a similar shoulder injury during his senior year of high school and that is helping him since he knows what to expect from the healing process. "The other good thing about it is, I'm not in a rush to get back and there's time for me to get fully healthy so it's not nagging throughout the season."

 
This does not sound good at all. Plus the coach saying he may not be 100% this year. I am passing...too risky.

 
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T.J. Duckett-RB- Falcons Aug. 21 - 8:47 pm et

The Redskins have reportedly expressed interest in T.J. Duckett.

Even after the Taylor Jacobs trade, Washington probably wouldn't mind moving David Patten to acquire more insurance for Clinton Portis' ailing shoulder. Duckett, however, would likely eat into Portis' carries, especially near the goal line. Patten would be Atlanta's third receiver.

Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Yikes

 
It would come to no surprise if the Redskins decided to reduce the workload on Portis for the start of the season. Near the top of the list of places to reduce workload is the goalline. If another RB succeeds at punching it in from the 1 or 2 yard lines early in the season, that could be the pattern all season.

Yes, it's possible he gets back the job at some point and ends up with fairly similar numbers to 2005 when he also started comparatively slowly, but the odds of that happening appear to be growing longer by the day.

It's just common sense that he should be viewed with more caution at this point. Yet it still remains to be seen if this is an opportunity for value or a situation to avoid. It depends on how aggressive or risk averse each owner is with respect to injury.

 
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To pile on to The Jerk's post above, Portis in the last two years in Washington has amassed almost 700 total carries and another 70 catches. That is a ton. And, that is way more than he had while in Denver.

+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Rushing | Receiving |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| 2002 den | 16 | 273 1508 5.5 15 | 33 364 11.0 2 |

| 2003 den | 13 | 290 1591 5.5 14 | 38 314 8.3 0 |

| 2004 was | 15 | 343 1315 3.8 5 | 40 235 5.9 2 |

| 2005 was | 16 | 352 1516 4.3 11 | 30 216 7.2 0 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| TOTAL | 60 | 1258 5930 4.7 45 | 141 1129 8.0 4 |

 
This is just totally my opinion, but I get the sense that Gibbs will have no problem in going to Betts early in the year to keep Portis from getting too banged up and available later in the year.

He's used goal line specialists before, and won't hesitate to do so if it's going to help the Redskins make the playoffs.

 
T.J. Duckett-RB- Falcons Aug. 21 - 8:47 pm et The Redskins have reportedly expressed interest in T.J. Duckett.Even after the Taylor Jacobs trade, Washington probably wouldn't mind moving David Patten to acquire more insurance for Clinton Portis' ailing shoulder. Duckett, however, would likely eat into Portis' carries, especially near the goal line. Patten would be Atlanta's third receiver.Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution Yikes
As a Skins fan, I'd love to have Duckett for short yardage/goaline work.As a fan of Portis's fantasy value, I'm :cry:
 
It would come to no surprise if the Redskins decided to reduce the workload on Portis for the start of the season. Near the top of the list of places to reduce workload is the goalline. If another RB succeeds at punching it in from the 1 or 2 yard lines early in the season, that could be the pattern all season.
:angry:
 
Did anyone else see Portis on NFL network? If so what was your impression of his comments? There was way too much discussion on whether the pre-season should be shortened, but after that ended Portis went on to say that he wasn't go to rush back (not new, but he's still saying that). I'm pretty sure he was was also wearing a sling still, but can anyone else confirm that?

Anyone know anything more about Betts' hammy?

 
It would come to no surprise if the Redskins decided to reduce the workload on Portis for the start of the season. Near the top of the list of places to reduce workload is the goalline. If another RB succeeds at punching it in from the 1 or 2 yard lines early in the season, that could be the pattern all season.Yes, it's possible he gets back the job at some point and ends up with fairly similar numbers to 2005 when he also started comparatively slowly, but the odds of that happening appear to be growing longer by the day.It's just common sense that he should be viewed with more caution at this point. Yet it still remains to be seen if this is an opportunity for value or a situation to avoid. It depends on how aggressive or risk averse each owner is with respect to injury.
:goodposting: At what point does his value/risk become impossible to pass on? This guy is so talented and I think everything was pointing towards him blowing up this season.(prior to the injury) I'm just nervous about pulling the trigger with my first round pick on a guy who could be battling this all year.
 
It would come to no surprise if the Redskins decided to reduce the workload on Portis for the start of the season. Near the top of the list of places to reduce workload is the goalline. If another RB succeeds at punching it in from the 1 or 2 yard lines early in the season, that could be the pattern all season.Yes, it's possible he gets back the job at some point and ends up with fairly similar numbers to 2005 when he also started comparatively slowly, but the odds of that happening appear to be growing longer by the day.It's just common sense that he should be viewed with more caution at this point. Yet it still remains to be seen if this is an opportunity for value or a situation to avoid. It depends on how aggressive or risk averse each owner is with respect to injury.
:goodposting: At what point does his value/risk become impossible to pass on? This guy is so talented and I think everything was pointing towards him blowing up this season.(prior to the injury) I'm just nervous about pulling the trigger with my first round pick on a guy who could be battling this all year.
Given the acquisition of Duckett, I think Portis is now entering a potential Barber-like situation. Except that he's not nearly the threat out of the backfield. However, 9 of Portis' 16 rushing TDs over the past two seasons have come from 4 yards or more. He also had 2 receiving TDs and 2 passing TDs in that span. So that's 13 TD's (2 of which are passes) of 4+ yards for Portis in 2004-05 to Tiki's 15 TD's of 4+ yards during the same seasons.Exactly where to slot Portis still depends on your league scoring methods. To me, Portis clearly slides below Tiki, S.Jax, and Rudi Johnson given the injury and trade for Duckett. He's somewhere in the vicinity of E.James, R.Brown, L.Jordan, C.Williams. If this is actually true, then Portis cannot be considered value until roughly the 10-11 pick of a draft at the earliest. Sure, a case can be made for drafting him earlier, but I wouldn't call it "value" as my previous post postulates.
 
It would come to no surprise if the Redskins decided to reduce the workload on Portis for the start of the season. Near the top of the list of places to reduce workload is the goalline. If another RB succeeds at punching it in from the 1 or 2 yard lines early in the season, that could be the pattern all season.

Yes, it's possible he gets back the job at some point and ends up with fairly similar numbers to 2005 when he also started comparatively slowly, but the odds of that happening appear to be growing longer by the day.

It's just common sense that he should be viewed with more caution at this point. Yet it still remains to be seen if this is an opportunity for value or a situation to avoid. It depends on how aggressive or risk averse each owner is with respect to injury.
:goodposting: At what point does his value/risk become impossible to pass on? This guy is so talented and I think everything was pointing towards him blowing up this season.(prior to the injury) I'm just nervous about pulling the trigger with my first round pick on a guy who could be battling this all year.
Given the acquisition of Duckett, I think Portis is now entering a potential Barber-like situation. Except that he's not nearly the threat out of the backfield. However, 9 of Portis' 16 rushing TDs over the past two seasons have come from 4 yards or more. He also had 2 receiving TDs and 2 passing TDs in that span. So that's 13 TD's (2 of which are passes) of 4+ yards for Portis in 2004-05 to Tiki's 15 TD's of 4+ yards during the same seasons.Exactly where to slot Portis still depends on your league scoring methods. To me, Portis clearly slides below Tiki, S.Jax, and Rudi Johnson given the injury and trade for Duckett. He's somewhere in the vicinity of E.James, R.Brown, L.Jordan, C.Williams. If this is actually true, then Portis cannot be considered value until roughly the 10-11 pick of a draft at the earliest. Sure, a case can be made for drafting him earlier, but I wouldn't call it "value" as my previous post postulates.
Dodds moved him down to RB28!
 
It would come to no surprise if the Redskins decided to reduce the workload on Portis for the start of the season. Near the top of the list of places to reduce workload is the goalline. If another RB succeeds at punching it in from the 1 or 2 yard lines early in the season, that could be the pattern all season.

Yes, it's possible he gets back the job at some point and ends up with fairly similar numbers to 2005 when he also started comparatively slowly, but the odds of that happening appear to be growing longer by the day.

It's just common sense that he should be viewed with more caution at this point. Yet it still remains to be seen if this is an opportunity for value or a situation to avoid. It depends on how aggressive or risk averse each owner is with respect to injury.
:goodposting: At what point does his value/risk become impossible to pass on? This guy is so talented and I think everything was pointing towards him blowing up this season.(prior to the injury) I'm just nervous about pulling the trigger with my first round pick on a guy who could be battling this all year.
Given the acquisition of Duckett, I think Portis is now entering a potential Barber-like situation. Except that he's not nearly the threat out of the backfield. However, 9 of Portis' 16 rushing TDs over the past two seasons have come from 4 yards or more. He also had 2 receiving TDs and 2 passing TDs in that span. So that's 13 TD's (2 of which are passes) of 4+ yards for Portis in 2004-05 to Tiki's 15 TD's of 4+ yards during the same seasons.Exactly where to slot Portis still depends on your league scoring methods. To me, Portis clearly slides below Tiki, S.Jax, and Rudi Johnson given the injury and trade for Duckett. He's somewhere in the vicinity of E.James, R.Brown, L.Jordan, C.Williams. If this is actually true, then Portis cannot be considered value until roughly the 10-11 pick of a draft at the earliest. Sure, a case can be made for drafting him earlier, but I wouldn't call it "value" as my previous post postulates.
Dodds moved him down to RB28!
That ranking is silly to me. If he's that bad off that his play is affected that much, they'll just rest him and play Betts and Duckett meaning that he's a lot worse than RB28. I'd expect to find him between RB8 and RB15 at the end of the season if he does come back this year from the injury.
 
It would come to no surprise if the Redskins decided to reduce the workload on Portis for the start of the season. Near the top of the list of places to reduce workload is the goalline. If another RB succeeds at punching it in from the 1 or 2 yard lines early in the season, that could be the pattern all season.

Yes, it's possible he gets back the job at some point and ends up with fairly similar numbers to 2005 when he also started comparatively slowly, but the odds of that happening appear to be growing longer by the day.

It's just common sense that he should be viewed with more caution at this point. Yet it still remains to be seen if this is an opportunity for value or a situation to avoid. It depends on how aggressive or risk averse each owner is with respect to injury.
:goodposting: At what point does his value/risk become impossible to pass on? This guy is so talented and I think everything was pointing towards him blowing up this season.(prior to the injury) I'm just nervous about pulling the trigger with my first round pick on a guy who could be battling this all year.
Given the acquisition of Duckett, I think Portis is now entering a potential Barber-like situation. Except that he's not nearly the threat out of the backfield. However, 9 of Portis' 16 rushing TDs over the past two seasons have come from 4 yards or more. He also had 2 receiving TDs and 2 passing TDs in that span. So that's 13 TD's (2 of which are passes) of 4+ yards for Portis in 2004-05 to Tiki's 15 TD's of 4+ yards during the same seasons.Exactly where to slot Portis still depends on your league scoring methods. To me, Portis clearly slides below Tiki, S.Jax, and Rudi Johnson given the injury and trade for Duckett. He's somewhere in the vicinity of E.James, R.Brown, L.Jordan, C.Williams. If this is actually true, then Portis cannot be considered value until roughly the 10-11 pick of a draft at the earliest. Sure, a case can be made for drafting him earlier, but I wouldn't call it "value" as my previous post postulates.
Dodds moved him down to RB28!
Seems like a tad bit overreaction. One thing lacking from my previous post is the uncertainty factor concerning the injury. I'm not even referring to the potential of missed games, but rather the potential for this to be a nuisance and threat to playing time all season long. Under that expectation, then I can see dropping him to the 15-20 range but even then there's no way I see him as 28th.
 
I agree with both of you. We declare keepers this Saturday, though, and this has thrown a huge monkeywrench into my plans.

 
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Nigel Tufnel said:
I agree with both of you. We declare keepers this Saturday, though, and this has thrown a huge monkeywrench into my plans.
If you can keep him for more than one season, I'd say Portis is still a no-brainer. If it's just for 2006, it's a tough one.Of course, huge factors here are your other candidates to be kept and how many you keep.
 

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