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RB Tyrone Tracy Jr., NYG (2 Viewers)

Put in the work (walk the walk):

Tyrone Tracy training with Eagles' Saquon Barkley

Good choice to get better. To be his best, have to learn from the best.


And of course the obligatory fluff prediction (talk the talk):

Tyrone Tracy shooting for 1,500 rushing yards this season

He also wanted 12 TDs. Not inconceivable if healthy since he needed 5ish weeks to become the starter. Stabilize the QB and OL positions. Perhaps 1500 combined yards instead of just rushing.


Luckily rookie fever is subsiding, otherwise the Skat lovers would be out in force saying their boo is getting fitted for the HOF jacket.
 
Any chance he can be a solid RB2 in the 13-15 range or is he a flex play at best with Skatteboo lurking?
In my opinion, he is better than Skattebo. The team lacks playmakers and Tracy showed last season he is a playmaker.
However, that is also the reason why he won't be a 13-15 range RB. The team still isn't very good. Low end RB2 if the rest of your team is stacked.
 
13-15 should be the floor. Skattebo might not be anything in the NFL. But he will impact Tracy's numbers, I initially thought more goal line touches for Cam. Maybe he is their first down guy. But Tracy has skills for todays NFL. Its just that team is so bad, until Dart is in, and if he can play well, we really wont know for sure. Wilson is awful, Jameis is fun but wild and would make Nabers a legit shot at WR1 overall. They have nice weapons on offense, Theo Johnson is a decent TE. Need Dart to shine, early.
 
13-15 should be the floor. Skattebo might not be anything in the NFL. But he will impact Tracy's numbers, I initially thought more goal line touches for Cam. Maybe he is their first down guy. But Tracy has skills for todays NFL. Its just that team is so bad, until Dart is in, and if he can play well, we really wont know for sure. Wilson is awful, Jameis is fun but wild and would make Nabers a legit shot at WR1 overall. They have nice weapons on offense, Theo Johnson is a decent TE. Need Dart to shine, early.
IMO absolutely wild take saying Tyrone Tracy's FLOOR is RB13-15. Like worst case scenario is he's RB13-15? He finished RB26 last season and they added competition in the draft. Are you sure you don't mean ceiling?
 
13-15 should be the floor. Skattebo might not be anything in the NFL. But he will impact Tracy's numbers, I initially thought more goal line touches for Cam. Maybe he is their first down guy. But Tracy has skills for todays NFL. Its just that team is so bad, until Dart is in, and if he can play well, we really wont know for sure. Wilson is awful, Jameis is fun but wild and would make Nabers a legit shot at WR1 overall. They have nice weapons on offense, Theo Johnson is a decent TE. Need Dart to shine, early.
Does anyone know how hard it is to actually clear 1,500 yds rush in the NFL?
2024 NFL Rushing Leaders....
Barkley 2,000+...on one of the best offenses in the NFL loaded with talent and is discussed as HoF level
Henry 1,900+...HoF RB, super talented QB that takes the pressure off



Lot of air between Henry and the next RB who btw DID NOT clear 1,500 yds rushing although the next couple come close...

Bijan 1,400...discussed as a phenom since he entered the NFL, he's a fajita to me, the sizzle/hype hasn't lived up quite to the production yet
J.Taylor 1,400...regarded as one of the best RB in the NFL but has been hit with injuries and then he was a holdout and had a fight with the now deceased owner
Jahmyr Gibbs 1,400 ...phenom and discussed as one of the most exciting RBs in the NFL

It's not personal and I appreciate your enthusiasm for Tracy, MOP had him on just about every redraft team last season although never drafted him in July/Aug, waivers a week or two ahead of when he finally started to evolve into the primary RB around Week 5. I have no delusions how lucky of a find he was last year. That said, 839 yds rush and 5 TDs from weeks 5-17, he's good but he's not a superstar IMHO, and we are dismissing the rookie RB-Skat a lot. You might not see much in Skat but you must understand that others do and he will see action, especially if he looks decent in preseason.

38/280 as a pass catcher, can't dismiss his versatility but I wouldn't assume he is going to clear 1,500 yds rushing

Good post SCM, I see your support for Tracy, just want to caution where we are going with the hype around him right now
 
13-15 should be the floor. Skattebo might not be anything in the NFL. But he will impact Tracy's numbers, I initially thought more goal line touches for Cam. Maybe he is their first down guy. But Tracy has skills for todays NFL. Its just that team is so bad, until Dart is in, and if he can play well, we really wont know for sure. Wilson is awful, Jameis is fun but wild and would make Nabers a legit shot at WR1 overall. They have nice weapons on offense, Theo Johnson is a decent TE. Need Dart to shine, early.
Does anyone know how hard it is to actually clear 1,500 yds rush in the NFL?
2024 NFL Rushing Leaders....
Barkley 2,000+...on one of the best offenses in the NFL loaded with talent and is discussed as HoF level
Henry 1,900+...HoF RB, super talented QB that takes the pressure off



Lot of air between Henry and the next RB who btw DID NOT clear 1,500 yds rushing although the next couple come close...

Bijan 1,400...discussed as a phenom since he entered the NFL, he's a fajita to me, the sizzle/hype hasn't lived up quite to the production yet
J.Taylor 1,400...regarded as one of the best RB in the NFL but has been hit with injuries and then he was a holdout and had a fight with the now deceased owner
Jahmyr Gibbs 1,400 ...phenom and discussed as one of the most exciting RBs in the NFL

It's not personal and I appreciate your enthusiasm for Tracy, MOP had him on just about every redraft team last season although never drafted him in July/Aug, waivers a week or two ahead of when he finally started to evolve into the primary RB around Week 5. I have no delusions how lucky of a find he was last year. That said, 839 yds rush and 5 TDs from weeks 5-17, he's good but he's not a superstar IMHO, and we are dismissing the rookie RB-Skat a lot. You might not see much in Skat but you must understand that others do and he will see action, especially if he looks decent in preseason.

38/280 as a pass catcher, can't dismiss his versatility but I wouldn't assume he is going to clear 1,500 yds rushing

Good post SCM, I see your support for Tracy, just want to caution where we are going with the hype around him right now
I was under the impression of 13-15 carries a game. I was thinking more usage than overall ranking.
Oh, I'm not on the 1500 bandwagon, doubt anyone is. I look at like 900 rushing and 400 receiving. How many TDs makes the difference on where he ends up on the ppg list.
I'd put him in 15-20 range, they added a guy in Skattebo, but Tracy basically didnt play the first 4 games last year. So factor that in too.

I saw this for his 2025 prediction: he can get around 1,300 total yards, 50 receptions and eight touchdowns. IMO, thats a great RB2 unless your team is garbage.
 
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13-15 should be the floor. Skattebo might not be anything in the NFL. But he will impact Tracy's numbers, I initially thought more goal line touches for Cam. Maybe he is their first down guy. But Tracy has skills for todays NFL. Its just that team is so bad, until Dart is in, and if he can play well, we really wont know for sure. Wilson is awful, Jameis is fun but wild and would make Nabers a legit shot at WR1 overall. They have nice weapons on offense, Theo Johnson is a decent TE. Need Dart to shine, early.
Does anyone know how hard it is to actually clear 1,500 yds rush in the NFL?
2024 NFL Rushing Leaders....
Barkley 2,000+...on one of the best offenses in the NFL loaded with talent and is discussed as HoF level
Henry 1,900+...HoF RB, super talented QB that takes the pressure off



Lot of air between Henry and the next RB who btw DID NOT clear 1,500 yds rushing although the next couple come close...

Bijan 1,400...discussed as a phenom since he entered the NFL, he's a fajita to me, the sizzle/hype hasn't lived up quite to the production yet
J.Taylor 1,400...regarded as one of the best RB in the NFL but has been hit with injuries and then he was a holdout and had a fight with the now deceased owner
Jahmyr Gibbs 1,400 ...phenom and discussed as one of the most exciting RBs in the NFL

It's not personal and I appreciate your enthusiasm for Tracy, MOP had him on just about every redraft team last season although never drafted him in July/Aug, waivers a week or two ahead of when he finally started to evolve into the primary RB around Week 5. I have no delusions how lucky of a find he was last year. That said, 839 yds rush and 5 TDs from weeks 5-17, he's good but he's not a superstar IMHO, and we are dismissing the rookie RB-Skat a lot. You might not see much in Skat but you must understand that others do and he will see action, especially if he looks decent in preseason.

38/280 as a pass catcher, can't dismiss his versatility but I wouldn't assume he is going to clear 1,500 yds rushing

Good post SCM, I see your support for Tracy, just want to caution where we are going with the hype around him right now
I was under the impression of 13-15 carries a game. I was thinking more usage than overall ranking.
Oh, I'm not on the 1500 bandwagon, doubt anyone is. I look at like 900 rushing and 400 receiving. How many TDs makes the difference on where he ends up on the ppg list.
I'd put him in 15-20 range, they added a guy in Skattebo, but Tracy basically didnt play the first 4 games last year. So factor that in too.

I saw this for his 2025 prediction: he can get around 1,300 total yards, 50 receptions and eight touchdowns. IMO, thats a great RB2 unless your team is garbage.
Total Yards, yes he can definitely hit the numbers he cleared last season plus some more
I'm not that excited about the NYG but I am pretty sure their OL is on the rise not the decline, veteran QB and an overhyped WR entering Year 2
I think Nabers going in the 1st round of redrafts is highly risky
Tracy will likely be taken as an RB2 for most teams, he can hit the box many weeks with something like 13/60+ on the ground, 3/20+ rec, 15 touches, he saw 15-20 many weeks last year so this is not an overhyping of his skills. Touchdowns will be hard to predict but I think Tracy can work as part of a solid RB2 platoon.


Wait a second...
Tracy is RB35 right now? :oldunsure:
ADP 109th?

"Say we get into the draft and thru the security doors and down to the 9th/10th round and past the other owners loaded with all the same info we have and into the vault we can't even open...
Say we do all that, we're suppose to just walk out of there with 1,500 yards of offense without getting stopped?"

Shark Pool "Yeah"

MOP while taking an antacid "Oh, OK"
 
Opened up ESPN's draft rankings this weekend to start my pre-draft process:

* Skatabo: 85
* Tracy: 89

Tracy available in round 8?

This is one of the larger mis prices I see so far.
 
High end range of outcomes for Tracy is sort of the same story arc as Chuba Hubbard. Not a highly thought of prospect who's done a good job with opportunities despite being in a bad offense and his team investing draft capital in competition. If he smashes, he'll be a very good value (high to mid tier RB2) but there's a couple of trap doors here.

Cam is an excellent prospect in many ways and has a ton of overlap with the pass catching despite being a power back. Yes, he could be nothing (Corum) or he could be something. A nearly full takeover by Cam (as the lead back) is not out of the range of outcomes. And as acknowledged by everyone, 2025 NYG offense is not the 2024 DET offense.

There's a reason why Tracy's redraft price is what it is. I think if he's underpriced, it's not by much IMO. There's a 40-70 % chance (not including injury) that by the end of the season, he's not a lineup worthy asset. If they end up in a 50/50 split in a bad offense, he's going to be stapled to your bench and clogging your roster, waiting for an injury.
 
Opened up ESPN's draft rankings this weekend to start my pre-draft process:

* Skatabo: 85
* Tracy: 89

Tracy available in round 8?

This is one of the larger mis prices I see so far.
Yes, if you’re reliving 2024.
Not a believe in Skatabo...

...yet.
You may be on an island with very few people to discuss fantasy football with. My personal opinion of Skattebo is one of intrigue and wait and see.
 
Opened up ESPN's draft rankings this weekend to start my pre-draft process:

* Skatabo: 85
* Tracy: 89

Tracy available in round 8?

This is one of the larger mis prices I see so far.
Honestly, I wouldn't want either at that price.
Last year were you one that didn't want either Chase Brown or Moss at similar prices ?
I had 2 Brown shares last year. Giants offense is a far cry from the Bengals offense.
 
I was under the impression of 13-15 carries a game. I was thinking more usage than overall ranking.
Oh, I'm not on the 1500 bandwagon, doubt anyone is. I look at like 900 rushing and 400 receiving. How many TDs makes the difference on where he ends up on the ppg list. I'd put him in 15-20 range, they added a guy in Skattebo, but Tracy basically didn't play the first 4 games last year. ... I saw this for his 2025 prediction: he can get around 1,300 total yards, 50 receptions and eight touchdowns. IMO, thats a great RB2 unless your team is garbage.

Loved his situation & where I was able to get him last year. In my leagues Tracy is a late round keeper candidate this year. To me it's odd that Tracy's ADP is the reflection of a dysfunctional offense, yet 2nd year WR Malik Nabors is obviously going to blast off as he's the overall 8th selection at fantasypros.com. Now, Cam Skattebo has that work-pail mentality & toughness that the Northeast loves. Seems his certain threat is that of a short/GL vulture. I like them both but if they're going to struggle offensively as suggested, give me the down & distance guy.
 
Jordan Ranaan on NYG RBs: “It’s 100% Tyrone Tracy… there is no competition”


For all the Skattebo hype, Tracy has quietly been putting up a solid camp: Russ’ #2 most targeted player and getting the lion’s share of starter reps.

This piece is a Skattebo feature but it still notes:

Tyrone Tracy looks like a different player entering his second season - more confident, tremendous fluidity and burst…
Daboll said something similar last week and in yesterday’s presser
 
Jordan Ranaan on NYG RBs: “It’s 100% Tyrone Tracy… there is no competition”


For all the Skattebo hype, Tracy has quietly been putting up a solid camp: Russ’ #2 most targeted player and getting the lion’s share of starter reps.

This piece is a Skattebo feature but it still notes:

Tyrone Tracy looks like a different player entering his second season - more confident, tremendous fluidity and burst…
Daboll said something similar last week and in yesterday’s presser

I don't even think Skattebo is RB2. I still think that belongs to Singletary.
 
Jordan Ranaan on NYG RBs: “It’s 100% Tyrone Tracy… there is no competition”


For all the Skattebo hype, Tracy has quietly been putting up a solid camp: Russ’ #2 most targeted player and getting the lion’s share of starter reps.

This piece is a Skattebo feature but it still notes:

Tyrone Tracy looks like a different player entering his second season - more confident, tremendous fluidity and burst…
Daboll said something similar last week and in yesterday’s presser

I don't even think Skattebo is RB2. I still think that belongs to Singletary.
I've posted a few times in the last season or two how much the Giants like Dev Singletary no matter what the FF opinion might be
Tracy is the current RB1 but if something odd happened and he was unavailable, Dev is the first person they will turn to
I like Skattebo but he has a long way to go for meaningful touches in 2025
 
Jordan Ranaan on NYG RBs: “It’s 100% Tyrone Tracy… there is no competition”


For all the Skattebo hype, Tracy has quietly been putting up a solid camp: Russ’ #2 most targeted player and getting the lion’s share of starter reps.

This piece is a Skattebo feature but it still notes:

Tyrone Tracy looks like a different player entering his second season - more confident, tremendous fluidity and burst…
Daboll said something similar last week and in yesterday’s presser

I don't even think Skattebo is RB2. I still think that belongs to Singletary.
I've posted a few times in the last season or two how much the Giants like Dev Singletary no matter what the FF opinion might be
Tracy is the current RB1 but if something odd happened and he was unavailable, Dev is the first person they will turn to
I like Skattebo but he has a long way to go for meaningful touches in 2025
I agree to some extent. Singletary has a long history with Daboll and that showed last year until Tracy was too good to keep off the field. We all want to wishcast the new toy in Skattebo into the starting gig, and it may happen at some point, but I think this is still Tracy's backfield for now with a sprinkling of Singletary and Skattebo. If Tracy falters/gets hurt, it may be an RBBC until Skattebo can show he's up to the task.
 
Jordan Ranaan on NYG RBs: “It’s 100% Tyrone Tracy… there is no competition”


For all the Skattebo hype, Tracy has quietly been putting up a solid camp: Russ’ #2 most targeted player and getting the lion’s share of starter reps.

This piece is a Skattebo feature but it still notes:

Tyrone Tracy looks like a different player entering his second season - more confident, tremendous fluidity and burst…
Daboll said something similar last week and in yesterday’s presser

I don't even think Skattebo is RB2. I still think that belongs to Singletary.
I've posted a few times in the last season or two how much the Giants like Dev Singletary no matter what the FF opinion might be
Tracy is the current RB1 but if something odd happened and he was unavailable, Dev is the first person they will turn to
I like Skattebo but he has a long way to go for meaningful touches in 2025
I agree to some extent. Singletary has a long history with Daboll and that showed last year until Tracy was too good to keep off the field. We all want to wishcast the new toy in Skattebo into the starting gig, and it may happen at some point, but I think this is still Tracy's backfield for now with a sprinkling of Singletary and Skattebo. If Tracy falters/gets hurt, it may be an RBBC until Skattebo can show he's up to the task.
Yup.
Anyone that took the time to watch the Giants Hard Knocks saw the coaches just oozed adoration for Singletary's leadership, work ethic, and skill. He lost the top job still - due to on-field talent, not because the coaching disliked him. Pretty much why it took 5 weeks for the switch.

Likely the same for unseating him as the primary back-up - it'll take on-field work to make it undeniably a good move for the team. But we also know 3rd stringers don't get much show time once the regular season starts - (barring injury) have to make their presence felt against future gym teachers of America, err in the pre-season.
 
Such an obvious zero RB target at an ADP of 82 in ESPN leagues. Him, Pacheco in round 7? Yes please.
What time does your chemistry class meet weekly?
I like what I'm finding in this mixing lab
If I'm reading this right and I'd like to think I can connect the dots...
You're talking about skipping the RBs early mostly or maybe all together and load up on studs at WR and QB/TE?
How does Swift grab you in the 5th?
 
Such an obvious zero RB target at an ADP of 82 in ESPN leagues. Him, Pacheco in round 7? Yes please.
What time does your chemistry class meet weekly?
I like what I'm finding in this mixing lab
If I'm reading this right and I'd like to think I can connect the dots...
You're talking about skipping the RBs early mostly or maybe all together and load up on studs at WR and QB/TE?
How does Swift grab you in the 5th?
I'm ideally grabbing two stud WRs early, then grabbing a Kittle or stud QB, and then looking RB.

For example, M. Nabers, B. Thomas, and then either Kittle or Allen/Jackson/Daniels. I like Yahoo's Paniowski's motto of "draft WRs who start themselves" early and then TE and QB drop off a cliff after Kittle and the top 4 QBs...big advantage there.

Would be hard to ignore RB if I have a top 5 pick if Chase and CD are gone. C. Brown and O. Hampton would be targets in round 3. If I miss all of these, I'd be happy grabbing K. Walker, C. Hubbard, or J. Conner in rounds 5. And then comes Tracy and Pacheco in round 7.

I also tend to be the guy that stockpiles backup RBs constantly in the hopes of emergence or injury. My deal roster build always has me "dense" at WR (4 - 5 solid options) while I max out RB (8).
 
I am picking 10th in a high dollar league and I am trending towards going WR-WR and hammering RB's like Tracy late.
 
Tracy is a guy I’m eyeing in my draft tonight as I like his skill set. Looks like he dusted Singletary last year, but what are people’s thoughts on Skattabo eating into Tracy’s production or even overtaking him?
 
Tracy is a guy I’m eyeing in my draft tonight as I like his skill set. Looks like he dusted Singletary last year, but what are people’s thoughts on Skattabo eating into Tracy’s production or even overtaking him?
I have taken Tracy as my RB3 in almost all my drafts. Usually in round 7.
I'm not afraid of Skattabo one bit. Everything I've read states Tracy is the clear lead back.
And that it appears Singletary is still RB2. This staff is playing for the lives. The offense needs playmakers and Tracy is arguably their 2nd best offensive player.
 
Tracy is a guy I’m eyeing in my draft tonight as I like his skill set. Looks like he dusted Singletary last year, but what are people’s thoughts on Skattabo eating into Tracy’s production or even overtaking him?
I have taken Tracy as my RB3 in almost all my drafts. Usually in round 7.
I'm not afraid of Skattabo one bit. Everything I've read states Tracy is the clear lead back.
And that it appears Singletary is still RB2. This staff is playing for the lives. The offense needs playmakers and Tracy is arguably their 2nd best offensive player.
I agree with this. But, I do admit that some of this narrative, which I have been pushing as well, is starting to feel a bit echo chambery.

Still, it really looks clear that Tracy is the unquestioned starter and will have plenty of runway. If Tracy gets hurt Singletary will probably be the starter but I think Skattebo will get plenty of opportunity as well just as Tracy did last season.
 
Missing a few weeks for Skattebo was huge and a major setback in his chances to earn meaningful touches early in the season. I think there is still a chance later in the season; but at this point Tracy feels like a value at his ADP.

And I'm not a big believer in Tracy's talent being anything special; but it's been proven time and time again in the NFL, opportunity/touches outweigh just about all of that. Meanwhile I am a huge believer in Skattebo's upside and think it's much higher than Tracy's in the long term. Just adding in these two points to emphasize if there is an echo chamber on Tracy, I'm on the outside of it lol. And I still agree with those saying he's a great redraft pick starting in round 6, and I've got him a few times now in round 7. Offense should be improved, and Dart has looked good enough in preseason to come in and play competently if Wilson struggles or goes down (insulating Tracy's floor). I think he's a fine RB2, and a real good RB3 heading into this season.
 
Missing a few weeks for Skattebo was huge and a major setback in his chances to earn meaningful touches early in the season. I think there is still a chance later in the season; but at this point Tracy feels like a value at his ADP.

And I'm not a big believer in Tracy's talent being anything special; but it's been proven time and time again in the NFL, opportunity/touches outweigh just about all of that. Meanwhile I am a huge believer in Skattebo's upside and think it's much higher than Tracy's in the long term. Just adding in these two points to emphasize if there is an echo chamber on Tracy, I'm on the outside of it lol. And I still agree with those saying he's a great redraft pick starting in round 6, and I've got him a few times now in round 7. Offense should be improved, and Dart has looked good enough in preseason to come in and play competently if Wilson struggles or goes down (insulating Tracy's floor). I think he's a fine RB2, and a real good RB3 heading into this season.
Yea later on the season, Skattebo could be an issue but at least for the first month or 2, Tracy should be a solid RB2 and a great RB3. If you own Tracy, I'd make sure to pick up Skattebo around week 3-4 even if he hasn't made any noise yet. Injury to Tracy and I don't think Singletary will be running alone.
 
The analytics guys love Skattebo and dislike Tracy. PFF gave Tracy a lousy grade and he fumbled too much for the coach's liking.

I traded my first for him last year and wasn't thinking correctly because I was chasing a championship and I did a stupid win-now trade and I know better than that. I was thinking, "he's a fifth-round converted WR and they're going to draft somebody else." Sure enough, it was Skattebo. I'm not sold on him, either, but the analytics dudes love his receiving ability and all the yards he gains from it.

I personally think Tracy is the better runner and that Skattebo is potentially too slow for the NFL. Even if he has a really good year, they'll adjust like he's Peyton Hillis. A 4.7 becomes awfully problematic at this level. It's not sustainable with all the hits he'll take. But Tracy can't fumble and needs to find holes a whole lot better. It's true that Tracy did well but then his line got really banged up and the holes closed. We will see what this coaching staff thinks.
 
A lot of people believe in Skattebo. He went much earlier than I would have guessed in my two redraft leagues.
Wow, the one I just had over the weekend had Tracy go in the 7th, Skattebo in the 12th.
Skattebo went 9.10 in FBG League Uno, which is definitely a competitive league (I took Tracy at 7.04).

In my 10 team home league Skattebo (RB37) went 11.10 after Tracy went 10.09 (RB34)

Maybe it's just a reflection that people don't trust Tracy.
 

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