Lets see how Vick does when a defense actually has a week to game plan for his style of play. I think there is a reason he was #2 behind Kolb and Andy Reid knows his team better than we do.
OK, this thread just went way off the deep end. Vick may have won some games, but dude is far from a "winner"
I think Vick's off field issues and 3 years without people seeing him play have made you forget how effective Vick was as a qb. Teams gameplanned against Vick for 4 years and the only team to even somewhat contain him was Tampa with their fast LB's. His receivers were absolutely HORRIBLE and couldnt get seperation. Many of his runs were scrambles where other qb's would have thrown it away or taken the sack. He has a cannon for an arm and could throw on the run better than any qb in the league. You put Vick on any team in the league and they will go at worst 5-11 as he will win 5 or 6 games by himself. Vick was argubly the most exciting player to watch ever.
Vicks problem was always consistency as he would lose you 2 or 3 games by himself also with costly turnovers and games where his accuracy was terrible. After Reeves left, he never received proper coaching or game plans that played to is strengths. He never had weapons anywhere close to what he has in Philly or offensive coaches as good. Vick admitted that he didnt work as hard as he should have in Atlanta and no longer takes the game for granted. Vick seems to be back to at least 90% of his former athleticism. If he has improved his work habits and consistency, he could be back to Pro Bowl caliber play.
Right now, Vick would make teams like 49ers, Jets, Cardinals, and Panthers all have a better shot at playoff success. Granted it was only one half but Vick l is back and will be a starter in this league next year.
Say it with me: your offensive ceiling is limited when your QB's legs are your best weapon. Fully realized offenses that have the capacity to consistently put up 25-30+ ppg are run to a large extent through their WR's. If your QB doesn't have the ability to find those WR's consistently, then your offense will be limited. There's no good argument against this. Unless you have a defense like the 2000 Ravens or the 1985 Bears, you're just not going to win championships with that.
Why were Vick's legs the team's best weapon? First, because Vick is a phenomenal athlete. I can actually agree with your statement that Vick was arguably the most exciting player to watch ever in the NFL. Second, however, was because he's a lousy passer. If you take away his running, the idea of him being a starter or even remaining in the league given his passing skills is laughable. Essentially Vick was 2/3 of a complete running back (insofar as you're talking about the team's overall running game) and, at best, 1/2 of a QB. Unfortunately for the Falcons, while they had other RB's to make up the difference, they didn't have anyone else to handle their passing game.
The Falcons were more or less built around Vick's unique talents on offense, reminiscent of the way that the Eagles were built around Randall Cunningham. These Eagles, however, are built around a solid O-line, excellent WR's and at least servicable if not above average RB's. Those assets get wasted to a large degree if a guy like Vick is going to still rely upon his legs like he once did.
That's why the Eagles will not go with Vick as their starter. They're built to accomplish more than he can provide. Whether Kolb can do it remains to be seen, but a passing QB like he is is what needs to be there for them to realize their potential.
I assume you're referring to my post and you've misread it. Here's what I wrote, with the emphasis on what you're referring to:
