Dolphins Sign Ted Ginn, Jr. (1 Viewer)

[greedygoat]

Ted Ginn is IN

By Harvey Fialkov | South Florida Sun-Sentinel

3:26 PM EDT, July 27, 2007

Barely missing the noon deadline for all players to report on the first official day of training camp, Dolphins first-round draft pick Ted Ginn Jr. agreed to terms on a five-year contract with the Dolphins, according to one source.

The Dolphins also chose not to comment, but another source confirmed that Ginn received approximately $13 million in guaranteed money.

The contract is expected to be signed shortly. All signed players were expected to attend a team meeting at 1 p.m., and the second source said Ginn was there. Practice begins tomorrow at 8:30 a.m. and Ginn is expected to be there.

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By signing today, Ginn avoided the wrath of team owner H. Wayne Huizenga, who issued an ultimatum at the owners' meeting in Phoenix last March in which he said that any rookie draft picks who hold out or show up late to training camp will not play all season. Huizenga was intent on avoiding a third straight year of holdouts from the teams' first-round pick. Running back Ronnie Brown, the overall second pick in 2005, and defensive back Jason Allen, the 16th pick in 2006, both held out and admitted later that the missed practices adversely affected their performance.

Ginn is expected to be the kick and punt return specialist this season, with cameo appearances at wide receiver.

 

[switz]

The Doll-phins suck... this was the stupidest pick. Now they are paying him what 3 million per year to return kicks?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The Doll-phins suck... this was the stupidest pick. Now they are paying him what 3 million per year to return kicks?

:exasperatedsigh:

 

[Sweetness_34]

Everyone wishes they had Devin Hester

Jerry Angelo

 

[Mediocrity]

this was the stupidest pick.

Only time will tell kid.

 

[LHUCKS]

he could easily be worth 3 million/year

 

[lebowski]

That doesn't sound like much for a top ten pick to me. Then again, what do I know? What does that compare to previous years?

 

[Family Matters]

Within 3 years, maybe sooner, we will see Ginn's impact. Everyone seems to agree on his punt/kick return abilities. Some seem to think he won't be effective as a WR. I think WR is where he'll make the greatest difference. His KR/PR ability will be seen early. His WR skills may be delayed. Partly because he's still devloeping as a WR. He's only played 3 years and he's coming out of college a year early. But mostly because he doesn't have a stable fixture at QB to help take advantage of his skills. So it migh take 2-3 years for the Dolphins to establish someone as their QB and get the passing game going. It won't do the Dolphins much good to have Ginn blow by DB's 40+ yards downfield if they don't have a QB that can hit him in stride. So that problem will allow defenses to cheat up short and afford them to take chances until a QB makes them pay.

So I feel good about where Ginn is at now and where he'll end up in a few years. The Dolphins will be pleased with Ginn.

 

[stbugs]

he could easily be worth 3 million/year

It wasn't $13 million over five years.

The Dolphins also chose not to comment, but another source confirmed that Ginn received approximately $13 million in guaranteed money.

$13 million guaranteed, means he got more than $13 million over 5 years, but they did not release the numbers.The thread title/description should be fixed because it isn't right. Heck, didn't the Ravens sign their late first round pick to 5 years/11 million, so 5/13 isn't right for the #9 pick.

 

[LHUCKS]

he could easily be worth 3 million/year

It wasn't $13 million over five years.

I know, I was being facetious.

 

[PahtyTom]

Ted Ginn is a gamebreaker with the ball. There are only a few guys in the world that have that kind of ability. He's not going to catch 100 balls, but he can take one to the house any time it's in his hands.

 

[jurb26]

I didn't think it would be long for Ginn to sign. Hopefully he is fully healthy now.

 

[-OZ-]

Ted Ginn is a gamebreaker with the ball. There are only a few guys in the world that have that kind of ability. He's not going to catch 100 balls, but he can take one to the house any time it's in his hands.

This might be where he lives up to his value. Return guys are important and he'll make his mark there, but simply having a player on the field that can change the game in a single play will be huge. Every team should want a guy with that potential on their offense, but many do not. I doubt Ginn will ever be a pro-bowl WR, but he could easily be the fins version of Ashley Lelie when he was a Bronco.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I doubt Ginn will ever be a pro-bowl WR, but he could easily be the fins version of Ashley Lelie when he was a Bronco.

Ginn is many times the game breaker that Lelie is/ever was.

 

[Balco]

I doubt Ginn will ever be a pro-bowl WR, but he could easily be the fins version of Ashley Lelie when he was a Bronco.

Ginn is many times the game breaker that Lelie is/ever was.

I am one of the biggest Ginn detractors on the board (not so much for his skill, but the fact that he went so early), but he is better than Lelei. Lelei is a one trick pony, a deep threat who comes up lame or drops the ball 50 % of the time.

 

[Micon]

I dont understand all the hate for Ginn as a prospect. How much different is he than Santana Moss? I remember most fantasy people were down on Moss when he came in the league because he was small and a "return guy". By his third year he developed into a consensus top 20 dynasty WR. They are both playmakers and coaches will get the ball in there hands. FBG "expert" Jeff Tefertiller's dynasty rankings has Ginn at the #65 WR behind Wrs like 34 year old Eddie Kennison and 30 year old Mike Furry. Come on Jeff, you cant really think Kennison and Furry have more dynasty value than Ginn. Most people also overlooked Steve Smith early in his career and look how he turned out.

 

[Finatic]

I dont understand all the hate for Ginn as a prospect. How much different is he than Santana Moss? I remember most fantasy people were down on Moss when he came in the league because he was small and a "return guy". By his third year he developed into a consensus top 20 dynasty WR. They are both playmakers and coaches will get the ball in there hands. FBG "expert" Jeff Tefertiller's dynasty rankings has Ginn at the #65 WR behind Wrs like 34 year old Eddie Kennison and 30 year old Mike Furry. Come on Jeff, you cant really think Kennison and Furry have more dynasty value than Ginn. Most people also overlooked Steve Smith early in his career and look how he turned out.

Replace the "Good" with "Excellent"

 

[-OZ-]

I doubt Ginn will ever be a pro-bowl WR, but he could easily be the fins version of Ashley Lelie when he was a Bronco.

Ginn is many times the game breaker that Lelie is/ever was.

On what level? Ginn hasn't proven anything yet, and lelie was one helluva gamebreaker in college. Granted, lesser competition, but 84 / 1713 / 19 is damn good on any level. Even if we look past the stats due to competition and scheme, Lelie was still a top WR in college. Don't forget, Lelie was a pretty good deep threat and practically a gamebreaker himself in Denver. He flopped in Atlanta, but what WR doesn't?He had a 1,000 yard season with 20.1 ypr in 2004, and aside from his rookie year, he never averaged less than 17.0 ypr. Comparatively, Joey Galloway only has 3 of his 12 seasons with that high a ypr, and there are extremely few other WRs who ever get a 17.0 ypr season. I'm not saying Lelie was great, but he was the deep threat I expect Ginn to be. MAYBE Ginn will be better, but I'm not betting on it. I don't mean to make this into a discussion about Lelie, all I'm saying is there are many similarities between the 2. I don't expect Ginn to be a better WR than Lelie was in Denver.BTW, I'm talking about role (as WR, not KR/PR) and stats. Not saying they're exactly the same build, speed, etc.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I dont understand all the hate for Ginn as a prospect. How much different is he than Santana Moss? I remember most fantasy people were down on Moss when he came in the league because he was small and a "return guy". By his third year he developed into a consensus top 20 dynasty WR. They are both playmakers and coaches will get the ball in there hands. FBG "expert" Jeff Tefertiller's dynasty rankings has Ginn at the #65 WR behind Wrs like 34 year old Eddie Kennison and 30 year old Mike Furry. Come on Jeff, you cant really think Kennison and Furry have more dynasty value than Ginn. Most people also overlooked Steve Smith early in his career and look how he turned out.

FO visited this comparison in PFP2007. They said Ginn isn't close to the route runner Moss was when he left college and his vertical is significantly less than Moss'.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I doubt Ginn will ever be a pro-bowl WR, but he could easily be the fins version of Ashley Lelie when he was a Bronco.

Ginn is many times the game breaker that Lelie is/ever was.

Ted Ginn hasn't played in a single NFL game.

 

[stbugs]

he could easily be worth 3 million/year

It wasn't $13 million over five years.

I know, I was being facetious.

Don't worry, I just grabbed your post because it had a $$$ amount in it. The figure 5/13 in the thread description is wrong. He will get a lot more than 13 million if he plays the whole contract. Someone posted right after you and actually thought he got a low offer because the only thing reported so far is the guaranteed portion, not the entire contract.As to Ginn, I have no idea how good or bad he will be. I would be more than willing to take a late round flyer in my league on him just because I really don't think Chambers is a stud like other people may. He has always been adequate and had monster games, but Chambers isn't a top tier WR in my book and at this point, I don't think he ever will be and Chambers has had virtually no competition for years.

 

[switz]

Ted Ginn is a gamebreaker with the ball. There are only a few guys in the world that have that kind of ability. He's not going to catch 100 balls, but he can take one to the house any time it's in his hands.

So was Peter Warrick

 

[phthalatemagic]

Ted Ginn is a gamebreaker with the ball. There are only a few guys in the world that have that kind of ability. He's not going to catch 100 balls, but he can take one to the house any time it's in his hands.

So was Peter Warrick

I don't think those two are comparable. Warrick was never close to as fast as Ginn, was he? But yes, I agree with the general idea that Ginn WAS a gamebreaker, in colllege. Now he's a rookie.

 

[Weiner Dog]

Ted Ginn is a gamebreaker with the ball. There are only a few guys in the world that have that kind of ability. He's not going to catch 100 balls, but he can take one to the house any time it's in his hands.

So was Peter Warrick

I don't think those two are comparable. Warrick was never close to as fast as Ginn, was he? But yes, I agree with the general idea that Ginn WAS a gamebreaker, in colllege. Now he's a rookie.

Other than size, Ginn and Warrick are complete opposites. Ginn is a one-cut burner. Warrick was amazingly quick but also amazingly slow. Believe or not, Ginn was nearly 1/2 second faster than Warrick in 40. Insane.Ginn is a "track guy" who's speed actually improves on gameday. This is the complete opposite of most speedsters. On pure speed alone, Ginn should be good for 6-8 TD's each year.