Donald Sterling vs. Cliven Bundy (1 Viewer)

[BigSteelThrill]

Donald Sterling vs. Cliven Bundy

The GOPs ticket for President and Vice President..

I believe Sterling is a Democrat.

Registered Republican since 1998. http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-no-donald-sterling-20140428,0,6977964.column#axzz30EO1lXLa

Maybe he only registered as a republican to vote in their primaries. It makes the most logical sense to vote in your opposition party's primary instead of your own. That he hasn't donate money to any republicans, but has to democrats, is more telling.

to be fair he seems apolitical...a few small donations to Ds and registered R

He s a conservative all the way.

He is also a businessman and greases the palms of those that help grab more money.

 

[Rove!]

I believe Sterling is a Democrat.

Registered Republican since 1998. http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-no-donald-sterling-20140428,0,6977964.column#axzz30EO1lXLa

Wasn't MLK a registered Republican too?

I don't think so...

No, Martin Luther King Jr. Was Not A Republican — But Here’s What He Had To Say About Them

“Most people don’t talk about the fact that Martin Luther King was a Republican.”

That’s a quote from Ada Fisher, a Republican National Committeewoman from North Carolina, that was published without qualification or correction this week by ABC News.

Fisher is wrong on two fronts. First, many people talk about the “fact” that King was a Republican. It is asserted incessantly by conservatives on Twitter and elsewhere on the internet, especially in the lead up to today’s 50th anniversary of the March on Washington. The claim is most prominently advanced by King’s niece, Republican activist Alveda King. Over the years, conservative groups have purchased billboards making the claim.

Second, Martin Luther King Jr. was not a Republican. Or a Democrat.

King was not a partisan and never endorsed any political candidate. In a 1958 interview, King said “I don’t think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses … And I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”

King did, however, weigh in on the Republican party during his lifetime. In Chapter 23 of his autobiography, King writes this about the 1964 Republican National Convention:



The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right.
The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.
Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America,
I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.

King barnstormed the country on behalf on Johnson in 1964, “maintaining only a thin veneer of nonpartisanship,” according to biographer Nick Kotz. King called Johnson’s win a “great victory for the forces of progress and a defeat for the forces of retrogress.”

Here is what King had to say about Ronald Reagan, the hero of modern Republicans:

When
a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor can become a leading war hawk candidate for the Presidency
, only the irrationalities induced by a war psychosis can explain such a melancholy turn of events.

David Garrow, who wrote a Pulitzer Prize winning biography of King, stated “
http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...n-group-says-martin-luther-king-jr-was-repub/It’s simply incorrect to call Dr. King a Republican
http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...n-group-says-martin-luther-king-jr-was-repub/.”


King, according to Garrow, did hold
http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...n-group-says-martin-luther-king-jr-was-repub/some Republicans
http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...n-group-says-martin-luther-king-jr-was-repub/ — including Richard Nixon and Nelson Rockefeller — in high regard. He also was harshly critical of Lyndon Johnson’s escalation of the Vietnam War.





In 2008, King’s son Martin Luther King III said “
http://www.politifact.com/tennessee...r-republican-claims-martin-luther-king-jr-wa/It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican
http://www.politifact.com/tennessee...r-republican-claims-martin-luther-king-jr-wa/. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican.” Garrow claimed there is little doubt King voted for Kennedy in 1960 and Johnson in 1964.

so a person's registration may not match their beliefs?

after looking this up, his actual registration is inconclusive, although he has family members staking claim (and MLK Sr was an R registration-wise)...

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Sterling's ex-wife in ultimate catbird seat and I told you so mode.

 

[squistion]

Wasn't MLK a registered Republican too?

I don't think so...

No, Martin Luther King Jr. Was Not A Republican — But Here’s What He Had To Say About Them

“Most people don’t talk about the fact that Martin Luther King was a Republican.”

That’s a quote from Ada Fisher, a Republican National Committeewoman from North Carolina, that was published without qualification or correction this week by ABC News.

Fisher is wrong on two fronts. First, many people talk about the “fact” that King was a Republican. It is asserted incessantly by conservatives on Twitter and elsewhere on the internet, especially in the lead up to today’s 50th anniversary of the March on Washington. The claim is most prominently advanced by King’s niece, Republican activist Alveda King. Over the years, conservative groups have purchased billboards making the claim.

Second, Martin Luther King Jr. was not a Republican. Or a Democrat.

King was not a partisan and never endorsed any political candidate. In a 1958 interview, King said “I don’t think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses … And I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”

King did, however, weigh in on the Republican party during his lifetime. In Chapter 23 of his autobiography, King writes this about the 1964 Republican National Convention:



The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right.
The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.
Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America,
I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.

King barnstormed the country on behalf on Johnson in 1964, “maintaining only a thin veneer of nonpartisanship,” according to biographer Nick Kotz. King called Johnson’s win a “great victory for the forces of progress and a defeat for the forces of retrogress.”

Here is what King had to say about Ronald Reagan, the hero of modern Republicans:

When
a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor can become a leading war hawk candidate for the Presidency
, only the irrationalities induced by a war psychosis can explain such a melancholy turn of events.

David Garrow, who wrote a Pulitzer Prize winning biography of King, stated “
http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...n-group-says-martin-luther-king-jr-was-repub/It’s simply incorrect to call Dr. King a Republican
http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...n-group-says-martin-luther-king-jr-was-repub/.”


King, according to Garrow, did hold
http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...n-group-says-martin-luther-king-jr-was-repub/some Republicans
http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...n-group-says-martin-luther-king-jr-was-repub/ — including Richard Nixon and Nelson Rockefeller — in high regard. He also was harshly critical of Lyndon Johnson’s escalation of the Vietnam War.





In 2008, King’s son Martin Luther King III said “
http://www.politifact.com/tennessee...r-republican-claims-martin-luther-king-jr-wa/It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican
http://www.politifact.com/tennessee...r-republican-claims-martin-luther-king-jr-wa/. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican.” Garrow claimed there is little doubt King voted for Kennedy in 1960 and Johnson in 1964.

so a person's registration may not match their beliefs?

after looking this up, his actual registration is inconclusive, although he has family members staking claim (and MLK Sr was an R registration-wise)...

Yes, I was expecting you to say that. However, keep selling the line MLK was really a Republican, because it adds to your already impressive credibility on this forum. Please continue the MLK was a Republican meme, please.

 

[timschochet]

If conservatives aren't able to falsely claim that MLK was a Republican, then MLK's job is not done.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Sterling and Bundy are a nice pair of KooKs.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

 

[jon_mx]

If conservatives aren't able to falsely claim that MLK was a Republican, then MLK's job is not done.

Why do you insist on posting such horrible posts.

 

[squistion]

If conservatives aren't able to falsely claim that MLK was a Republican, then MLK's job is not done.

Damn it Tim, I have said you that you have no sense of humor but you keep proving me wrong.

 

[Quez]

He should say the recordings were altered and sue a bunch of people. Everyone hates him anyways, so he might as well go full heel. Start making bad moves to sabotage the team and all.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

It's okay because he edited out the part where he called someone a moron and then claimed that he always backed up his claims with facts.

 

[FlapJacks]

It's okay because he edited out the part where he called someone a moron and then claimed that he always backed up his claims with facts.

there's 1800+ posts for you to peruse at your leisure....

 

[TheAristocrat]

Neither one is racist (johnjohn default answer) (17 votes [18.89%])

That's too many votes, even for schtick.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

I can see where Sterling goes full heel and joins WWE. :BOATLOADS:

 

[FlapJacks]

, because it adds to your already impressive credibility on this forum.

Rove! 108 likes in 1800+ posts

Squistion 104 likes in 6000+ posts

just sayin'

 

[johnjohn]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/376641/racist-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-has-only-contributed-democrats-tim-cavanaugh

L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling, whom commentators tried to tie to the Republican party immediately after his alleged racist statements became public, has in fact only given money to Democratic candidates, according to campaign-contribution records.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/376641/racist-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-has-only-contributed-democrats-tim-cavanaugh

L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling, whom commentators tried to tie to the Republican party immediately after his alleged racist statements became public, has in fact only given money to Democratic candidates, according to campaign-contribution records.

He is a Republican.

How he tries to buy influence is different.

 

[johnjohn]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/376641/racist-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-has-only-contributed-democrats-tim-cavanaugh

L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling, whom commentators tried to tie to the Republican party immediately after his alleged racist statements became public, has in fact only given money to Democratic candidates, according to campaign-contribution records.

He is a Republican.

How he tries to buy influence is different.

keep lying to yourself if that makes you feel better

 

[BigSteelThrill]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/376641/racist-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-has-only-contributed-democrats-tim-cavanaugh

L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling, whom commentators tried to tie to the Republican party immediately after his alleged racist statements became public, has in fact only given money to Democratic candidates, according to campaign-contribution records.

He is a Republican.

How he tries to buy influence is different.

keep lying to yourself if that makes you feel better

you keep lying to yourself and everyone else. he is a registered republican.

you are in full spin mode.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

And republican or democrat (regardless of registration) there is no doubt he is a conservative.

 

[johnjohn]

And republican or democrat (regardless of registration) there is no doubt he is a conservative.

nah dude, sounds like is a bleeding heart liberal

 

[BigSteelThrill]

spinspinspin

 

[The Commish]

who gives a #### what party he's part of?

 

[johnjohn]

who gives a #### what party he's part of?

liberals do, because they want to paint a picture of every republican being racist, so its kind of hilarious they tried to say he was a republican and it turns out he is a democrat

 

[BigSteelThrill]

He is conservative, and a registered Republican.

He is, what he is.

 

[The Commish]

who gives a #### what party he's part of?

liberals do, because they want to paint a picture of every republican being racist, so its kind of hilarious they tried to say he was a republican and it turns out he is a democrat

plenty of racists morons in both parties With that said you guys arguing over which party he claims aren't doing your "sides" any favors.

 

[pollardsvision]

who gives a #### what party he's part of?

The only remarkable thing about him, politically, is that he's a billionaire that hasn't donated money to a politician in a couple decades.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

who gives a #### what party he's part of?

liberals do, because they want to paint a picture of every republican being racist, so its kind of hilarious they tried to say he was a republican and it turns out he is a democrat

plenty of racists morons in both parties With that said you guys arguing over which party he claims aren't doing your "sides" any favors.

No! No! No! Haven't you been paying attention in the FFA all of these years? Racism simply doesn't exist in America any longer with the exception of the paternalistic form that liberals practice with welfare and affirmative action or when minorities play the "race card".

Oh and these rare exceptions that prove the rule are limited to some old guys about to die anyway.

Racism otherwise simply doesn't exist in American in 2014.

[i shouldn't need to wrap this in sarcasm tags.]

 

[FlapJacks]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/376641/racist-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-has-only-contributed-democrats-tim-cavanaugh

L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling, whom commentators tried to tie to the Republican party immediately after his alleged racist statements became public, has in fact only given money to Democratic candidates, according to campaign-contribution records.

He is a Republican.

How he tries to buy influence is different.

keep lying to yourself if that makes you feel better

you keep lying to yourself and everyone else. he is a registered republican.

you are in full spin mode.

you guys should get a room....

 

[TobiasFunke]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/376641/racist-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-has-only-contributed-democrats-tim-cavanaugh

L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling, whom commentators tried to tie to the Republican party immediately after his alleged racist statements became public, has in fact only given money to Democratic candidates, according to campaign-contribution records.

He is a Republican.

How he tries to buy influence is different.

keep lying to yourself if that makes you feel better

you keep lying to yourself and everyone else. he is a registered republican.

you are in full spin mode.

you guys should get a room....

... with no internet access

 

[FlapJacks]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/376641/racist-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-has-only-contributed-democrats-tim-cavanaugh

L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling, whom commentators tried to tie to the Republican party immediately after his alleged racist statements became public, has in fact only given money to Democratic candidates, according to campaign-contribution records.

He is a Republican.

How he tries to buy influence is different.

keep lying to yourself if that makes you feel better

you keep lying to yourself and everyone else. he is a registered republican.

you are in full spin mode.

you guys should get a room....

... with no internet access

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Donald Sterling should walk out to this at the next Clippers game:

Hook: Future]
Im on that good kush and alcohol
I got some down #####es I can call
I dont know what I would do without yall
Imma ball til the day I fall
Ball, ball, ball, ball

[bridge: Drake]
Yeah, long as my #####es love me (yeah, yeah)
I could give a fark about no hater, long as my #####es love me
(Yeah, yeah)
Yeah, I could give a fark about no #####, long as my #####es love me

 

[The Commish]

who gives a #### what party he's part of?

liberals do, because they want to paint a picture of every republican being racist, so its kind of hilarious they tried to say he was a republican and it turns out he is a democrat

plenty of racists morons in both parties With that said you guys arguing over which party he claims aren't doing your "sides" any favors.

No! No! No! Haven't you been paying attention in the FFA all of these years? Racism simply doesn't exist in America any longer with the exception of the paternalistic form that liberals practice with welfare and affirmative action or when minorities play the "race card".

Oh and these rare exceptions that prove the rule are limited to some old guys about to die anyway.

Racism otherwise simply doesn't exist in American in 2014.

[i shouldn't need to wrap this in sarcasm tags.]

touche

 

[The Commish]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/376641/racist-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-has-only-contributed-democrats-tim-cavanaugh

L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling, whom commentators tried to tie to the Republican party immediately after his alleged racist statements became public, has in fact only given money to Democratic candidates, according to campaign-contribution records.

He is a Republican.

How he tries to buy influence is different.

keep lying to yourself if that makes you feel better

you keep lying to yourself and everyone else. he is a registered republican.

you are in full spin mode.

you guys should get a room....

... with no internet access

and plenty of lube

 

[The Commish]

Adios you dope....

 

[TheAristocrat]

Banned from the NBA for life and fined 2500 racks.

 

[squistion]

Keith Olbermann ‏@KeithOlbermann

Adam Silver to Donald #Sterling shorter version: Bye Felicia.

 

[Yenrub]

Banned from the NBA for life and fined 2500 racks.

Ok so he was banned for life and has to pay a fine

They can’t make him sell his team can they?

 

[TheAristocrat]

Banned from the NBA for life and fined 2500 racks.

Ok so he was banned for life and has to pay a fine

They can’t make him sell his team can they?

Someone else may need to confirm this but I believe it was said that the NBA's Board of Directors can vote to force a sale of the team.

In that scenario, sad to say, but this racist POS will get a huge payday. He bought the team for $12.5M in 1981 and it is valued by Forbes at ~$575M.

 

[17seconds]

Banned from the NBA for life and fined 2500 racks.

Ok so he was banned for life and has to pay a fine

They can’t make him sell his team can they?

Someone else may need to confirm this but I believe it was said that the NBA's Board of Directors can vote to force a sale of the team.

In that scenario, sad to say, but this racist POS will get a huge payday. He bought the team for $12.5M in 1981 and it is valued by Forbes at ~$575M.

If it goes down like that, it shows you how money trumps everything in this country. You can be a racist POS, banned for life, living as a recluse in complete disgrace, but you still get the money you made off of it.

 

[Christo]

Banned from the NBA for life and fined 2500 racks.

Ok so he was banned for life and has to pay a fine

They can’t make him sell his team can they?

Someone else may need to confirm this but I believe it was said that the NBA's Board of Directors can vote to force a sale of the team.

In that scenario, sad to say, but this racist POS will get a huge payday. He bought the team for $12.5M in 1981 and it is valued by Forbes at ~$575M.

If it goes down like that, it shows you how money trumps everything in this country. You can be a racist POS, banned for life, living as a recluse in complete disgrace, but you still get the money you made off of it.

At the end of the day the money was earned legitimately not because of his racism.

 

[Dr Oadi]

Banned from the NBA for life and fined 2500 racks.

Ok so he was banned for life and has to pay a fineThey can’t make him sell his team can they?

Someone else may need to confirm this but I believe it was said that the NBA's Board of Directors can vote to force a sale of the team.In that scenario, sad to say, but this racist POS will get a huge payday. He bought the team for $12.5M in 1981 and it is valued by Forbes at ~$575M.

If it goes down like that, it shows you how money trumps everything in this country. You can be a racist POS, banned for life, living as a recluse in complete disgrace, but you still get the money you made off of it.

What are you proposing? Taking all the property from racists?

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Banned from the NBA for life and fined 2500 racks.

Ok so he was banned for life and has to pay a fineThey can’t make him sell his team can they?

Someone else may need to confirm this but I believe it was said that the NBA's Board of Directors can vote to force a sale of the team.In that scenario, sad to say, but this racist POS will get a huge payday. He bought the team for $12.5M in 1981 and it is valued by Forbes at ~$575M.

If it goes down like that, it shows you how money trumps everything in this country. You can be a racist POS, banned for life, living as a recluse in complete disgrace, but you still get the money you made off of it.

What are you proposing? Taking all the property from racists?

Higher taxes. Especially estate taxes.

 

[Disco Stu]

Banned from the NBA for life and fined 2500 racks.

Ok so he was banned for life and has to pay a fineThey can’t make him sell his team can they?

Someone else may need to confirm this but I believe it was said that the NBA's Board of Directors can vote to force a sale of the team.In that scenario, sad to say, but this racist POS will get a huge payday. He bought the team for $12.5M in 1981 and it is valued by Forbes at ~$575M.

If it goes down like that, it shows you how money trumps everything in this country. You can be a racist POS, banned for life, living as a recluse in complete disgrace, but you still get the money you made off of it.

What are you proposing? Taking all the property from racists?

Higher taxes. Especially estate taxes.

For racists?

 

[17seconds]

Banned from the NBA for life and fined 2500 racks.

Ok so he was banned for life and has to pay a fineThey can’t make him sell his team can they?

Someone else may need to confirm this but I believe it was said that the NBA's Board of Directors can vote to force a sale of the team.In that scenario, sad to say, but this racist POS will get a huge payday. He bought the team for $12.5M in 1981 and it is valued by Forbes at ~$575M.

If it goes down like that, it shows you how money trumps everything in this country. You can be a racist POS, banned for life, living as a recluse in complete disgrace, but you still get the money you made off of it.

What are you proposing? Taking all the property from racists?

I don't even think he should be banned.

I'm pointing out it's a strange situation when current and former NBA people think he's the worst person in the sport and ban him forever, but he can go ahead and take what he made off of the NBA. There's no financial recourse beyond the $2.5mil max. He made money off of a league that clearly prohibits a person with his views, yet they can't recover a significant amount of money which was made. It's an untouchable area.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Banned from the NBA for life and fined 2500 racks.

Ok so he was banned for life and has to pay a fineThey can’t make him sell his team can they?

Someone else may need to confirm this but I believe it was said that the NBA's Board of Directors can vote to force a sale of the team.In that scenario, sad to say, but this racist POS will get a huge payday. He bought the team for $12.5M in 1981 and it is valued by Forbes at ~$575M.

If it goes down like that, it shows you how money trumps everything in this country. You can be a racist POS, banned for life, living as a recluse in complete disgrace, but you still get the money you made off of it.

What are you proposing? Taking all the property from racists?

Higher taxes. Especially estate taxes.

For racists?

Them too.

 

[CBusAlex]

I'm pointing out it's a strange situation when current and former NBA people think he's the worst person in the sport and ban him forever, but he can go ahead and take what he made off of the NBA. There's no financial recourse beyond the $2.5mil max. He made money off of a league that clearly prohibits a person with his views, yet they can't recover a significant amount of money which was made. It's an untouchable area.

This is pretty much how every job works. When Joe the Burger Flipper gets fired for masturbating on the job, McDonalds doesn't go take back all the paychecks they gave him for the last ten years. Masturbating Joe still made money off his job as a burger flipper.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

This must be like one of those Superman vs Minimouse debates.

 

[17seconds]

I'm pointing out it's a strange situation when current and former NBA people think he's the worst person in the sport and ban him forever, but he can go ahead and take what he made off of the NBA. There's no financial recourse beyond the $2.5mil max. He made money off of a league that clearly prohibits a person with his views, yet they can't recover a significant amount of money which was made. It's an untouchable area.

This is pretty much how every job works. When Joe the Burger Flipper gets fired for masturbating on the job, McDonalds doesn't go take back all the paychecks they gave him for the last ten years. Masturbating Joe still made money off his job as a burger flipper.

I know. I wasn't making a point about only wealthy people. Money is sacred.

 

[jon_mx]

I'm pointing out it's a strange situation when current and former NBA people think he's the worst person in the sport and ban him forever, but he can go ahead and take what he made off of the NBA. There's no financial recourse beyond the $2.5mil max. He made money off of a league that clearly prohibits a person with his views, yet they can't recover a significant amount of money which was made. It's an untouchable area.

This is pretty much how every job works. When Joe the Burger Flipper gets fired for masturbating on the job, McDonalds doesn't go take back all the paychecks they gave him for the last ten years. Masturbating Joe still made money off his job as a burger flipper.

I know. I wasn't making a point about only wealthy people. Money is sacred.

This is America where we respect property rights.