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I understand things are different for NE, but 8mil isn't even in the top 25 salaries for WRs this year. It's less than Tavon Austin, Allen Hurns, and Pierre Garcon and is on par with what Albert Wilson and Ryan Grant just signed for.
Haha, what was the topic of the rant??
He ded.
Reche Caldwell, Doug Garbriel, Jabar Gafney err, sorry just having a bad flashback......
Not much. They're both going to be on the field at the same time a lot. This coming from a Bears fan.
yes, pretty bad trade. Luck is super risky and even healthy he isn't much better, if at all, than Wilson.
While I agree with both statements I think both are at least close enough that preference could easily put someone into favoring the other side, even if they aren't the majority in that opinion. Realistically the deal is probably off by a 2019 1st that should be added to the Luck/McKinnon side.
Luck if healthy may not be much better than Wilson right now, but running QBs historically slow down a lot earlier than QBs who merely supplement big passing numbers with a few hundred rushing yards (like Rodgers/Luck).
What’s McKinnon worth then? I can’t imagine anyone who owns him would sell for a 2nd at this point.
I think 1.08-1.12 range. Personally I’ll always try to acquire a back in this type of offense. In Denver it was plug and play, kubiak in Houston coaxed monster seasons out of Steve Slaton and Arian foster. In atl it was freeman/Coleman.
The 1.08 may be just over the border of what I'd pay but why is this a "no way" situation?
I agree that he has upside, but he also doesn't have a starting job yet. We don't know if they will draft someone, we don't know if McKinnon will win the job, we don't know if he can handle it, or what the split will be. We do know Shanahan had a good track record but we also know McKinnon has a relatively bad one, and if he flames out he won't likely get another chance to start.
Good and fair points, but with the money they are paying him it looks like he's their guy. With the way Shanahan has talked him up it seems like the plan is for him to be the guy. The Niners don't have a second round pick after the Jimmy G trade so unless Barkley falls to them in round 1 (which is not impossible) the highest they will be taking a RB would be in round 3 and my guess is after this signing they will not use their second pick in the draft at RB.
Looking at online trades and polls posted on Twitter, his value is about 1.08 at the moment.
I think if you wait until the rookie draft you will have to pay more than 1.08 or his owners position will solidify and they won't sell. I doubt the 49ers take another RB in the draft as Shanahan has been saying how impressed he was by watching him on tape, essentially that he does everything, and what a good fit he is to their offense. However the uncertain element about how the draft plays out (which is not completely unjustified) depresses his value somewhat at the moment IMO.
I'll say the same thing I said in the Drake thread. In the 1.08-1.12 range that McKinnon is currently valued, any RB you find is going to have serious questions about workload/opportunity.
The thing about McKinnon is no matter what happens he will have a role...he is versatile enough that he could be anywhere from a legit #1 in San Fran to being a high-end COP back...he could definitely underperform his deal but I do not see him busting...I would absolutely trade a 1.8 for him...unless they bring in Barkley I think he has a fantastic opportunity...they spent very good $ on him and I think they will give him every chance to succeed...
The more i think about it the more i think you and the others are correct. It may not work out but Shanny's intention is to use McKinnon a lot. That SF offense is intriguing and could put up some very nice offensive numbers.
Depends on the roster. He's not a big target of mine, but I'd pay a late 1st if I was plugging him into the RB2/flex spot of a contending roster. 1.09ish.
I have been offered Mixon & 1 of Funchess, Richardson or Cobb for my Ingram & Juju in dynasty PPR. I'm on the fence b/c I am very high on Juju. Ugh...
Yup this is the same thinking I have. I remember Delanie Walker being behind Vernon Davis and then getting the chance in Tennessee and he's been a top TE since. I think Burton has a good chance to do the same if Trubisky does end up being good
Enough to take that downgrade @ WR, though? I'm thinking Funchess is the best of the 3 to take.
Same but that other stuff does not excite me and I'd rather have the older Ingram than those WR's so if it's me I'd offer JuJu for Mixon straight up but no Ingram.
I've been put off by his price tag, but am hoping rookie fever will drop his price tag some. The upside is Barkley-esque (even if he's a less likely to reach it).
1.03 is fair. On the surface, he has more upside than Michel, Jones, and Chubb. Guice too, but I'd opt for Guice's floor.
I see what you're saying, but "4th round pick" and "9 mil per" are two different tables.
I’m not sure that narrative was completely true. That seemed like (Peter King type) building drama for a story. Shanahan was never quoted saying that and he never showed any love after the draft He’s been quoted gushing over McKinon and put their money where their mouth is.
What about last year when Cook was hurt? mcKinon has a few break out games albeit splitting with Murray. He was a college QB so maybe he needed a little time to adjust.
