Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (7 Viewers)

[menobrown]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

If not competing in 2023 is the major goal there is no way I'm not picking Richardson in a SF with one of my top 4 picks. He's fantasy can't miss and I'll say that with caveat of as long as he's on the field. Which may not be primarily until 2024 and he has higher concerns then the two you mentioned of staying on the field but forget all that. His upside blows them sideways.

If I had picks 1-4 I'd know with a high degree of certainty already if I'm making those picks I'm drafting Bijan, Gibbs, Richardson and my last decision is mulling over that second QB.

Is taking Gibbs over JSN easy to do? I’m not so sure about that.

That's great but I meant what I said and have been saying it around here for months.

Well alrighty then

That's how I've had it for a few months but I'm not going to paint myself in a corner. If Gibbs comes out at like 195 running a 4.45 40 I won't be singing that tune. I thought JSN ended up having very strong day today, but I've consistently had Gibbs locked in his own tier at 2 and JSN more or less in comp to be 3 which he's winning by a lot right now.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Diontae Johnson buy low or give up? He’ll be 27. First season with same qb/OC although both were not good last season. 0 TDs is almost impossibly low.

QB situation could be better. I dunno about give up, but I’d be hesitant to buy unless it’s a great value.

Most shareholders i know still look at him like

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

If not competing in 2023 is the major goal there is no way I'm not picking Richardson in a SF with one of my top 4 picks. He's fantasy can't miss and I'll say that with caveat of as long as he's on the field. Which may not be primarily until 2024 and he has higher concerns then the two you mentioned of staying on the field but forget all that. His upside blows them sideways.

If I had picks 1-4 I'd know with a high degree of certainty already if I'm making those picks I'm drafting Bijan, Gibbs, Richardson and my last decision is mulling over that second QB.

Is taking Gibbs over JSN easy to do? I’m not so sure about that.

That's great but I meant what I said and have been saying it around here for months.

Well alrighty then

That's how I've had it for a few months but I'm not going to paint myself in a corner. If Gibbs comes out at like 195 running a 4.45 40 I won't be singing that tune. I thought JSN ended up having very strong day today, but I've consistently had Gibbs locked in his own tier at 2 and JSN more or less in comp to be 3 which he's winning by a lot right now.

I’m not saying I won’t take ARich.

The downside of ARich seems substantially higher than that of Young (e.g. young’s floor feels safer)

It’s fine to fall in love with upside - especially FF upside, which sure - he has in spades.

But if he doesn’t get the draft capital, or land on a team that I believe can develop him, I’m out as a top 4 SF pick.

Fortunately I have months to figure it out. We can disagree on ARich - that’s ok. I’m not convinced he’s a future star in either the NFL or FF. There’s plenty of time for me to become convinced. I just lack your conviction on either Gibbs or ARich - but especially ARich.

 

[joey]

Hurts value in 1 QB league?
(Keep 13 ppr dynasty league (non-TE-mandatory). Start QB/RB/3WR/1flex/K/D. League started 2 seasons ago)

i have the 1.3 pick that I “earned” this year. Trey Lance is an anchor on my QB position.
I have core of JTaylor, Javonte, Dobbins, Akers. KHerbert. Lamb, Kirk, Pickens, Palmer, Pierce.

i don’t think I can let go of the 1.3 for a QB (even as good as Hurts) when I still need to find another stud WR to compete with the line up requirements.

thoughts?

Any other opinions on this?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Hurts value in 1 QB league?
(Keep 13 ppr dynasty league (non-TE-mandatory). Start QB/RB/3WR/1flex/K/D. League started 2 seasons ago)

i have the 1.3 pick that I “earned” this year. Trey Lance is an anchor on my QB position.
I have core of JTaylor, Javonte, Dobbins, Akers. KHerbert. Lamb, Kirk, Pickens, Palmer, Pierce.

i don’t think I can let go of the 1.3 for a QB (even as good as Hurts) when I still need to find another stud WR to compete with the line up requirements.

thoughts?

Any other opinions on this?

Not sure what you’re asking.

If hurts is worth 1.03 in 1 QB? I believe he’s worth 1.03 and some.

Hurts value as a rusher, and TD vulture makes him one of the elite assets even on 1QB, IMO.

If I had a 1.03 and needed a QB, I wouldn’t hesitate to move the pick for Hurts.

My question is why the Hurts shareholder would want to move him for that.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Thoughts on the highest 2023 draft pick people would give for Tee Higgins straight up. #2 overall? Non SF.

This is looking like it could be a pretty special QB group potentially. I love Tee, but it’d be tough for me to come off of a top 3 pick unless I was just really set at QB. Maybe 1.04? Bijan and then the top two QB’s. I’d have Tee over any WR in this class and likely any RB not named Bijan.

 

[joey]

Hurts value in 1 QB league?
(Keep 13 ppr dynasty league (non-TE-mandatory). Start QB/RB/3WR/1flex/K/D. League started 2 seasons ago)

i have the 1.3 pick that I “earned” this year. Trey Lance is an anchor on my QB position.
I have core of JTaylor, Javonte, Dobbins, Akers. KHerbert. Lamb, Kirk, Pickens, Palmer, Pierce.

i don’t think I can let go of the 1.3 for a QB (even as good as Hurts) when I still need to find another stud WR to compete with the line up requirements.

thoughts?

Any other opinions on this?

Not sure what you’re asking.

If hurts is worth 1.03 in 1 QB? I believe he’s worth 1.03 and some.

Hurts value as a rusher, and TD vulture makes him one of the elite assets even on 1QB, IMO.

If I had a 1.03 and needed a QB, I wouldn’t hesitate to move the pick for Hurts.

My question is why the Hurts shareholder would want to move him for that.

Thanks for the reply.
yeah the other owner wants 1.3 plus someone like Akers.
he has Hurts and Mahommes, hence his desire to get something for him.

 

[ghostguy123]

Thoughts on the highest 2023 draft pick people would give for Tee Higgins straight up. #2 overall? Non SF.

This is looking like it could be a pretty special QB group potentially. I love Tee, but it’d be tough for me to come off of a top 3 pick unless I was just really set at QB. Maybe 1.04? Bijan and then the top two QB’s. I’d have Tee over any WR in this class and likely any RB not named Bijan.

Non superflex.
Yeah I think Tee and pick 2 are neck and neck

 

[Birdie048]

Diontae Johnson buy low or give up? He’ll be 27. First season with same qb/OC although both were not good last season. 0 TDs is almost impossibly low.

QB situation could be better. I dunno about give up, but I’d be hesitant to buy unless it’s a great value.

Most shareholders i know still look at him like

I tried to “Buy Low” …Offered 2.07 to Dionte owner… his WR5 (Hill, AJB, Evans, Kirk) and he countered 1.09.
Pass, but it is a data point.

 

[Boston]

Diontae Johnson buy low or give up? He’ll be 27. First season with same qb/OC although both were not good last season. 0 TDs is almost impossibly low.

QB situation could be better. I dunno about give up, but I’d be hesitant to buy unless it’s a great value.

Most shareholders i know still look at him like

I tried to “Buy Low” …Offered 2.07 to Dionte owner… his WR5 (Hill, AJB, Evans, Kirk) and he countered 1.09.
Pass, but it is a data point.

Makes sense from both sides...I don't blame either of you for passing on him at those prices...he is a real difficult guy to figure out...my guess is the other Owner would want another decent piece to go along with 2.7.

 

[candian fantasy guy]

Hurts value in 1 QB league?
(Keep 13 ppr dynasty league (non-TE-mandatory). Start QB/RB/3WR/1flex/K/D. League started 2 seasons ago)

i have the 1.3 pick that I “earned” this year. Trey Lance is an anchor on my QB position.
I have core of JTaylor, Javonte, Dobbins, Akers. KHerbert. Lamb, Kirk, Pickens, Palmer, Pierce.

i don’t think I can let go of the 1.3 for a QB (even as good as Hurts) when I still need to find another stud WR to compete with the line up requirements.

thoughts?

Any other opinions on this?

It really depends on the other owners. I think it’s worth it, but not sure I would be willing to pay that. I tried to get Fields with the 1.07 straight up and no way will that guy budge and he has Mahomes in a 1QB league.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Thoughts on the highest 2023 draft pick people would give for Tee Higgins straight up. #2 overall? Non SF.

This is looking like it could be a pretty special QB group potentially. I love Tee, but it’d be tough for me to come off of a top 3 pick unless I was just really set at QB. Maybe 1.04? Bijan and then the top two QB’s. I’d have Tee over any WR in this class and likely any RB not named Bijan.

Non superflex.
Yeah I think Tee and pick 2 are neck and neck

Missed that. Non-sF, yeah I’d be fine giving up 1.02 for him.

 

[Buckna]

Hurts value in 1 QB league?
(Keep 13 ppr dynasty league (non-TE-mandatory). Start QB/RB/3WR/1flex/K/D. League started 2 seasons ago)

i have the 1.3 pick that I “earned” this year. Trey Lance is an anchor on my QB position.
I have core of JTaylor, Javonte, Dobbins, Akers. KHerbert. Lamb, Kirk, Pickens, Palmer, Pierce.

i don’t think I can let go of the 1.3 for a QB (even as good as Hurts) when I still need to find another stud WR to compete with the line up requirements.

thoughts?

Any other opinions on this?

Not sure what you’re asking.

If hurts is worth 1.03 in 1 QB? I believe he’s worth 1.03 and some.

Hurts value as a rusher, and TD vulture makes him one of the elite assets even on 1QB, IMO.

If I had a 1.03 and needed a QB, I wouldn’t hesitate to move the pick for Hurts.

My question is why the Hurts shareholder would want to move him for that.

Thanks for the reply.
yeah the other owner wants 1.3 plus someone like Akers.
he has Hurts and Mahommes, hence his desire to get something for him.

In that situation I’d try to add something to the 1.03 to get Mahomes instead. He’s the only QB I am willing to pay for in 1QB. There’s always other guys that are cheaper and easier to acquire. IMO, QB values are like roller coasters, always going up and down with injuries to their teammates or themselves, regression years, the next young stud, etc.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Thoughts on the highest 2023 draft pick people would give for Tee Higgins straight up. #2 overall? Non SF.

This is looking like it could be a pretty special QB group potentially. I love Tee, but it’d be tough for me to come off of a top 3 pick unless I was just really set at QB. Maybe 1.04? Bijan and then the top two QB’s. I’d have Tee over any WR in this class and likely any RB not named Bijan.

Non superflex.
Yeah I think Tee and pick 2 are neck and neck

Missed that. Non-sF, yeah I’d be fine giving up 1.02 for him.

My challenge there is, what am I getting at 1.02 that’s better/more proven than Higgins?

If it’s Gibbs, ya might get a better RB trading Higgins straight up for a RB.

For me, moving a premium player means profiting. I don’t think 1.02 is unreasonable value for Higgins, I just don’t see a profit for my roster.

I have Higgins on both my dynasty rosters and 1.02 alone doesn’t move the needle for me.

 

[ghostguy123]

Thoughts on the highest 2023 draft pick people would give for Tee Higgins straight up. #2 overall? Non SF.

This is looking like it could be a pretty special QB group potentially. I love Tee, but it’d be tough for me to come off of a top 3 pick unless I was just really set at QB. Maybe 1.04? Bijan and then the top two QB’s. I’d have Tee over any WR in this class and likely any RB not named Bijan.

Non superflex.
Yeah I think Tee and pick 2 are neck and neck

Missed that. Non-sF, yeah I’d be fine giving up 1.02 for him.

My challenge there is, what am I getting at 1.02 that’s better/more proven than Higgins?

If it’s Gibbs, ya might get a better RB trading Higgins straight up for a RB.

For me, moving a premium player means profiting. I don’t think 1.02 is unreasonable value for Higgins, I just don’t see a profit for my roster.

I have Higgins on both my dynasty rosters and 1.02 alone doesn’t move the needle for me.

I have Tee is three leagues, all NON Superflex.
I have shopped him in all three. Literally the best offer I have gotten is a random future 1st. It's shocking. Getting ANY two 1sts for him is not possible in any of these leagues.

 

[efactor]

Thoughts on the highest 2023 draft pick people would give for Tee Higgins straight up. #2 overall? Non SF.

This is looking like it could be a pretty special QB group potentially. I love Tee, but it’d be tough for me to come off of a top 3 pick unless I was just really set at QB. Maybe 1.04? Bijan and then the top two QB’s. I’d have Tee over any WR in this class and likely any RB not named Bijan.

Non superflex.
Yeah I think Tee and pick 2 are neck and neck

Missed that. Non-sF, yeah I’d be fine giving up 1.02 for him.

My challenge there is, what am I getting at 1.02 that’s better/more proven than Higgins?

If it’s Gibbs, ya might get a better RB trading Higgins straight up for a RB.

For me, moving a premium player means profiting. I don’t think 1.02 is unreasonable value for Higgins, I just don’t see a profit for my roster.

I have Higgins on both my dynasty rosters and 1.02 alone doesn’t move the needle for me.

Thanks for the input.

I was just curious because I moved the #2 overall that I had traded for to get Higgins. The deal was done towards the trade deadline in 2022 and there was an outside chance the pick would be #1 overall, so that added a bit of a gamble. Plus, a contract league and Higgins is really cheap for a really long time, so that factored into it.

Thanks to everyone for the input. I was curious how Gibbs and the top WRs were valued compared to Higgins.

 

[ghostguy123]

Thoughts on the highest 2023 draft pick people would give for Tee Higgins straight up. #2 overall? Non SF.

This is looking like it could be a pretty special QB group potentially. I love Tee, but it’d be tough for me to come off of a top 3 pick unless I was just really set at QB. Maybe 1.04? Bijan and then the top two QB’s. I’d have Tee over any WR in this class and likely any RB not named Bijan.

Non superflex.
Yeah I think Tee and pick 2 are neck and neck

Missed that. Non-sF, yeah I’d be fine giving up 1.02 for him.

My challenge there is, what am I getting at 1.02 that’s better/more proven than Higgins?

If it’s Gibbs, ya might get a better RB trading Higgins straight up for a RB.

For me, moving a premium player means profiting. I don’t think 1.02 is unreasonable value for Higgins, I just don’t see a profit for my roster.

I have Higgins on both my dynasty rosters and 1.02 alone doesn’t move the needle for me.

Thanks for the input.

I was just curious because I moved the #2 overall that I had traded for to get Higgins. The deal was done towards the trade deadline in 2022 and there was an outside chance the pick would be #1 overall, so that added a bit of a gamble. Plus, a contract league and Higgins is really cheap for a really long time, so that factored into it.

Thanks to everyone for the input. I was curious how Gibbs and the top WRs were valued compared to Higgins.

If you were to put Tee in a draft with the rookies, I am taking him at #2 unless I reallllllly need a RB and one of the guys jumps out as a high end guy.

 

[efactor]

Thoughts on the highest 2023 draft pick people would give for Tee Higgins straight up. #2 overall? Non SF.

This is looking like it could be a pretty special QB group potentially. I love Tee, but it’d be tough for me to come off of a top 3 pick unless I was just really set at QB. Maybe 1.04? Bijan and then the top two QB’s. I’d have Tee over any WR in this class and likely any RB not named Bijan.

Non superflex.
Yeah I think Tee and pick 2 are neck and neck

Missed that. Non-sF, yeah I’d be fine giving up 1.02 for him.

My challenge there is, what am I getting at 1.02 that’s better/more proven than Higgins?

If it’s Gibbs, ya might get a better RB trading Higgins straight up for a RB.

For me, moving a premium player means profiting. I don’t think 1.02 is unreasonable value for Higgins, I just don’t see a profit for my roster.

I have Higgins on both my dynasty rosters and 1.02 alone doesn’t move the needle for me.

I have Tee is three leagues, all NON Superflex.
I have shopped him in all three. Literally the best offer I have gotten is a random future 1st. It's shocking. Getting ANY two 1sts for him is not possible in any of these leagues.

Surprising that Higgins didn’t generate better offers than a random first. I have been trying to move Higgins and Dak for Josh Allen in a 16 teamer but no go so far. Guy with Allen also has Fields and his WRs suck so was thinking he might bite.

 

[titusbramble]

Clearly wouldn't give Bijan for Higgins, JSN or Gibbs is close but would probably take the non-Tee side given age/matching levels of uncertainty re: landing spots, 1.04 down is an easy sell

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Thoughts on the highest 2023 draft pick people would give for Tee Higgins straight up. #2 overall? Non SF.

This is looking like it could be a pretty special QB group potentially. I love Tee, but it’d be tough for me to come off of a top 3 pick unless I was just really set at QB. Maybe 1.04? Bijan and then the top two QB’s. I’d have Tee over any WR in this class and likely any RB not named Bijan.

Non superflex.
Yeah I think Tee and pick 2 are neck and neck

Missed that. Non-sF, yeah I’d be fine giving up 1.02 for him.

My challenge there is, what am I getting at 1.02 that’s better/more proven than Higgins?

If it’s Gibbs, ya might get a better RB trading Higgins straight up for a RB.

For me, moving a premium player means profiting. I don’t think 1.02 is unreasonable value for Higgins, I just don’t see a profit for my roster.

I have Higgins on both my dynasty rosters and 1.02 alone doesn’t move the needle for me.

Thanks for the input.

I was just curious because I moved the #2 overall that I had traded for to get Higgins. The deal was done towards the trade deadline in 2022 and there was an outside chance the pick would be #1 overall, so that added a bit of a gamble. Plus, a contract league and Higgins is really cheap for a really long time, so that factored into it.

Thanks to everyone for the input. I was curious how Gibbs and the top WRs were valued compared to Higgins.

If you were to put Tee in a draft with the rookies, I am taking him at #2 unless I reallllllly need a RB and one of the guys jumps out as a high end guy.

I’ve been offered a late 1st & a 2nd. I was not convinced.

 

[efactor]

Thoughts on the highest 2023 draft pick people would give for Tee Higgins straight up. #2 overall? Non SF.

This is looking like it could be a pretty special QB group potentially. I love Tee, but it’d be tough for me to come off of a top 3 pick unless I was just really set at QB. Maybe 1.04? Bijan and then the top two QB’s. I’d have Tee over any WR in this class and likely any RB not named Bijan.

Non superflex.
Yeah I think Tee and pick 2 are neck and neck

Missed that. Non-sF, yeah I’d be fine giving up 1.02 for him.

My challenge there is, what am I getting at 1.02 that’s better/more proven than Higgins?

If it’s Gibbs, ya might get a better RB trading Higgins straight up for a RB.

For me, moving a premium player means profiting. I don’t think 1.02 is unreasonable value for Higgins, I just don’t see a profit for my roster.

I have Higgins on both my dynasty rosters and 1.02 alone doesn’t move the needle for me.

Thanks for the input.

I was just curious because I moved the #2 overall that I had traded for to get Higgins. The deal was done towards the trade deadline in 2022 and there was an outside chance the pick would be #1 overall, so that added a bit of a gamble. Plus, a contract league and Higgins is really cheap for a really long time, so that factored into it.

Thanks to everyone for the input. I was curious how Gibbs and the top WRs were valued compared to Higgins.

If you were to put Tee in a draft with the rookies, I am taking him at #2 unless I reallllllly need a RB and one of the guys jumps out as a high end guy.

I’ve been offered a late 1st & a 2nd. I was not convinced.

Oh hell no on that. Tee just turned 24 in January and plays with Joe Burrow. Maybe 1.2 if you need a RB really bad but in non SF, anything less is not doing it for me.

 

[metoo]

Hurts value in 1 QB league?
(Keep 13 ppr dynasty league (non-TE-mandatory). Start QB/RB/3WR/1flex/K/D. League started 2 seasons ago)

i have the 1.3 pick that I “earned” this year. Trey Lance is an anchor on my QB position.
I have core of JTaylor, Javonte, Dobbins, Akers. KHerbert. Lamb, Kirk, Pickens, Palmer, Pierce.

i don’t think I can let go of the 1.3 for a QB (even as good as Hurts) when I still need to find another stud WR to compete with the line up requirements.

thoughts?

Any other opinions on this?

I have the 1.3 in my main league and I wouldn't do it. I start Lamar with Huntley, Lance and Love as my backups. I'm taking Gibbs or a receiver. I need wr help as well, I have Kirk, Aiyuk, Diontae and Pierce at WR. I have JT, Hall and Dillon at rb.

It's a 27 man roster, start 2wrs 2rbs 1te, 2 flex league. My league loves Wrs and you have to give up too much to trade for one.

It's know your league. I wouldn't trade that pick for a QB unless I knew I was getting one of the big 2. One of the Qbs, it not all will be available in my league at picks 2.3 and 2.10.

With our starter requirements, I feel comfortable drafting a Wr or Rb at 1.3.

Hurts is going to have to do it again for me.

The guy with Allen did win our league this year.

 

[joey]

Hurts value in 1 QB league?
(Keep 13 ppr dynasty league (non-TE-mandatory). Start QB/RB/3WR/1flex/K/D. League started 2 seasons ago)

i have the 1.3 pick that I “earned” this year. Trey Lance is an anchor on my QB position.
I have core of JTaylor, Javonte, Dobbins, Akers. KHerbert. Lamb, Kirk, Pickens, Palmer, Pierce.

i don’t think I can let go of the 1.3 for a QB (even as good as Hurts) when I still need to find another stud WR to compete with the line up requirements.

thoughts?

Any other opinions on this?

I have the 1.3 in my main league and I wouldn't do it. I start Lamar with Huntley, Lance and Love as my backups. I'm taking Gibbs or a receiver. I need wr help as well, I have Kirk, Aiyuk, Diontae and Pierce at WR. I have JT, Hall and Dillon at rb.

It's a 27 man roster, start 2wrs 2rbs 1te, 2 flex league. My league loves Wrs and you have to give up too much to trade for one.

It's know your league. I wouldn't trade that pick for a QB unless I knew I was getting one of the big 2. One of the Qbs, it not all will be available in my league at picks 2.3 and 2.10.

With our starter requirements, I feel comfortable drafting a Wr or Rb at 1.3.

Hurts is going to have to do it again for me.

The guy with Allen did win our league this year.

Thanks for the reply and thoughts.
I’m mostly of the same mind and decided I’m most likely going to hang on to my 1.3 pick til it’s on the clock and then see which way I want to go.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Value check on Ken Walker III? Any recent trades that y'all can think of?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Value check on Ken Walker III? Any recent trades that y'all can think of?

I haven’t seen him traded but in terms of picks I’m thinking the 1.02 is the starting point. He’d be the second best player in this draft.

 

[Ilov80s]

Value on any non 1.01 single QB draft picks has to be down, right?

 

[smbkrypt24]

Value on any non 1.01 single QB draft picks has to be down, right?

I am holding off before I make too many concrete decisions, but right now I do see a drop off at 1.04. I think the NFL draft will have some RBs rise dramatically and maybe 1-2 WRs. But as of not I want a top 3 pick or not feeling confident.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Value on any non 1.01 single QB draft picks has to be down, right?

I am holding off before I make too many concrete decisions, but right now I do see a drop off at 1.04. I think the NFL draft will have some RBs rise dramatically and maybe 1-2 WRs. But as of not I want a top 3 pick or not feeling confident.

Interesting. I'm tempted to start buying up 23 picks "at a discount" because of that exact sentiment.

 

[smbkrypt24]

Value on any non 1.01 single QB draft picks has to be down, right?

I am holding off before I make too many concrete decisions, but right now I do see a drop off at 1.04. I think the NFL draft will have some RBs rise dramatically and maybe 1-2 WRs. But as of not I want a top 3 pick or not feeling confident.

Interesting. I'm tempted to start buying up 23 picks "at a discount" because of that exact sentiment.

At this point I wouldn't be selling those picks unless I am combining for a top 3 pick. I would want to see how the NFL draft goes.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Value on any non 1.01 single QB draft picks has to be down, right?

I am holding off before I make too many concrete decisions, but right now I do see a drop off at 1.04. I think the NFL draft will have some RBs rise dramatically and maybe 1-2 WRs. But as of not I want a top 3 pick or not feeling confident.

Interesting. I'm tempted to start buying up 23 picks "at a discount" because of that exact sentiment.

At this point I wouldn't be selling those picks unless I am combining for a top 3 pick. I would want to see how the NFL draft goes.

No, I hear ya. I've seen the exact same sentiment running through one of my keeper leagues. Might be time to see if anyone is selling picks 1.04-1.12 at a good price.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Question for you guys. I just took over a team with almost no assets to speak of in a SF league. Only players (truly) of any value on the team are Breece Hall, Treylon Burks and Wandale Robinson.

But (and the reason I took it over) it does have the following draft picks: 1.01, 1.03, 1.07, 1.10, 1.12, 2.1 and 2.2.

So I'm trying to figure out a direction here. I can keep all the picks and take Bijan and try to get one or more QBs and best player available with the picks. Or I could try to trade the 1.01 for a basket full of assets. People are already coming for that but nothing that has blown me away so far.

But I'm starting to wonder if maybe I just trade Breece away for the 1.02 and something else? I mean, I probably have to take Bijan at 1.01 unless I trade it away. But I'm just so far away from competing, does it really make sense to keep Breece and draft Bijan at 1.01 and try to start a long rebuild centered around two RBs? To me, that doesn't make sense.

And it also possibly doesn't make sense to use draft picks on QBs this year given how far away I am, or at least not the 1.03. I know it's SF, but I don't know.

A different path could be to trade Breece and the 1.01 for more picks and young WRs.

Thoughts????? Somebody convince me of a direction I should take!

 

[foxco]

I'd Keep Hall, build around him and Bijan, you have enough picks that u may be able to be competitive right away if you hit on a couple....

 

[ghostguy123]

The direction you should take is based on your options.
Yes trade Breece, but if you can't get something equal to 1.02 plus more then don't.
I would personally trade both Breece and bijan if you are able to get good value for each guy, but even trading just one for a good deal is fine, preferably Breece, and then just draft guys. Trading back from 3 might be a good idea as well cause that pick should also get a lot of later/future picks back.

Your direction is directly related to your options though. Just need that first domino to fall.
I hate starting rebuilds with RBs though.

 

[ghostguy123]

I'd Keep Hall, build around him and Bijan, you have enough picks that u may be able to be competitive right away if you hit on a couple....

Ignore this fool. Do it right,..............j/k

 

[Blick]

Question for you guys. I just took over a team with almost no assets to speak of in a SF league. Only players (truly) of any value on the team are Breece Hall, Treylon Burks and Wandale Robinson.

But (and the reason I took it over) it does have the following draft picks: 1.01, 1.03, 1.07, 1.10, 1.12, 2.1 and 2.2.

So I'm trying to figure out a direction here. I can keep all the picks and take Bijan and try to get one or more QBs and best player available with the picks. Or I could try to trade the 1.01 for a basket full of assets. People are already coming for that but nothing that has blown me away so far.

But I'm starting to wonder if maybe I just trade Breece away for the 1.02 and something else? I mean, I probably have to take Bijan at 1.01 unless I trade it away. But I'm just so far away from competing, does it really make sense to keep Breece and draft Bijan at 1.01 and try to start a long rebuild centered around two RBs? To me, that doesn't make sense.

And it also possibly doesn't make sense to use draft picks on QBs this year given how far away I am, or at least not the 1.03. I know it's SF, but I don't know.

A different path could be to trade Breece and the 1.01 for more picks and young WRs.

Thoughts????? Somebody convince me of a direction I should take!

You're not going to compete this year, probably not next. I'd definitely move Hall if I could get the 1.02. If I couldn't get a haul for Bijan now, I'd draft him to trade him prior to the season for young WRs or a third QB. RBs are of no use to you.

 

[ghostguy123]

Question for you guys. I just took over a team with almost no assets to speak of in a SF league. Only players (truly) of any value on the team are Breece Hall, Treylon Burks and Wandale Robinson.

But (and the reason I took it over) it does have the following draft picks: 1.01, 1.03, 1.07, 1.10, 1.12, 2.1 and 2.2.

So I'm trying to figure out a direction here. I can keep all the picks and take Bijan and try to get one or more QBs and best player available with the picks. Or I could try to trade the 1.01 for a basket full of assets. People are already coming for that but nothing that has blown me away so far.

But I'm starting to wonder if maybe I just trade Breece away for the 1.02 and something else? I mean, I probably have to take Bijan at 1.01 unless I trade it away. But I'm just so far away from competing, does it really make sense to keep Breece and draft Bijan at 1.01 and try to start a long rebuild centered around two RBs? To me, that doesn't make sense.

And it also possibly doesn't make sense to use draft picks on QBs this year given how far away I am, or at least not the 1.03. I know it's SF, but I don't know.

A different path could be to trade Breece and the 1.01 for more picks and young WRs.

Thoughts????? Somebody convince me of a direction I should take!

RBs are of no use to you.

This. Not till 2025.

 

[Crippler]

Interesting.

do you feel like your the worst team.

Little mock
1.1 Bijan 1.3 QB in Stroud, Young or Richardson 1.7 JSN 1.10 Charbonnett 1.12 Flowers 2.1 Rice 2.2 Mayer or Dalton

2024 1.1 Marvin Harrison or Caleb Williams

starters Stroud, Bijan, Hall, Burks, JSN, Flowers, Mayer with ZC and Rice on bench

if you trade Hall for 1.2 who you taking. Another QB and than Harrison next year
or can you go after a Olave, London, Waddle type plus with Hall now. Where does Levis go. my mock presumes QB 2, 3, 4, Gibbs 5, Levis 6, Johnson 8, Addison 9 Hyatt 11. Anyway Levis drops to 10.

I don’t mind trading Hall at all or even Bijan, but your team is closer than you think.In SF, QB is key or it is in my league. It is the late 1st, early 2nds no use for in this rebuild. And I think the top end talent in 24 is better. Williams, Maye, couple nice RB,(Henderson, Allen), top 3 WR better(Harrison, Worthy, Egbuga) Bowers better. i think you want 24 picks in every deal. Can you get 1.2 and 24 1st. End up with all 24 1st would be interesting.

lots of options for sure but mocking out team, determining what other teams 24 1st look like and always looking at what your team looks like is key. Patience is the last piece. Because standing pat right now is not ugly especially if Levis drops to 1.10 because hard for me to mock. I can only know my home league and QB is king there. 1.1 in it will be QB. Robinson probably goes 2 but could drop to 5. Thing with RB is J Taylor. He got drafted few years ago over Jefferson and Lamb(my picks) and while useful if you were rebuilding he is not the WR future And not a piece to build around and would be traded. I know I rather Harrison over Bijan as a building block for team 3 years away myself.But we only start 1 RB.. BTW 2 years ago was Najee Harris over Waddle(my pick) and how does value look today.

Good luck but listening to offers is what is fun about dynasty.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'd definitely move Hall if I could get the 1.02.

Who is a better choice at 1.02 than Hall? I mean he’s not old and will likely start the season off slowly anyway.

 

[Birdie048]

I'd definitely move Hall if I could get the 1.02.

Who is a better choice at 1.02 than Hall? I mean he’s not old and will likely start the season off slowly anyway.

I would rather have Hall in 2024 than the "potential" QB Bust, give Hall time to recover from injury and plan for 2024 competitive run.

 

[Blick]

I'd definitely move Hall if I could get the 1.02.

Who is a better choice at 1.02 than Hall? I mean he’s not old and will likely start the season off slowly anyway.

To each his own, but I'd much rather build around young QBs than any RB.

 

[Blick]

I'd definitely move Hall if I could get the 1.02.

Who is a better choice at 1.02 than Hall? I mean he’s not old and will likely start the season off slowly anyway.

I would rather have Hall in 2024 than the "potential" QB Bust, give Hall time to recover from injury and plan for 2024 competitive run.

I've never been successful without good QBs in SF and they are extremely hard to trade for. I'd take the risk and load up on them where I can.

 

[-OZ-]

Value on any non 1.01 single QB draft picks has to be down, right?

I am holding off before I make too many concrete decisions, but right now I do see a drop off at 1.04. I think the NFL draft will have some RBs rise dramatically and maybe 1-2 WRs. But as of not I want a top 3 pick or not feeling confident.

Interesting. I'm tempted to start buying up 23 picks "at a discount" because of that exact sentiment.

At this point I wouldn't be selling those picks unless I am combining for a top 3 pick. I would want to see how the NFL draft goes.

I’m sitting at 8 and 12 in SF. would happily give both for a top 3 pick but that’s not likely to fly.
Plus I need WR (kupp, Evans, Ridley) more than RB (Barkley, Henry, ekeler, Walker) but really need QB (tannehill, Lance, Watson).

 

[-OZ-]

I'd definitely move Hall if I could get the 1.02.

Who is a better choice at 1.02 than Hall? I mean he’s not old and will likely start the season off slowly anyway.

I would rather have Hall in 2024 than the "potential" QB Bust, give Hall time to recover from injury and plan for 2024 competitive run.

I've never been successful without good QBs in SF and they are extremely hard to trade for. I'd take the risk and load up on them where I can.

You’re right. But then I won my league last year starting Brady and Mike white. Tannehill, Dalton and Darnold started at times for me.

 

[-OZ-]

Price check on aisle 4 for Derek Carr in SF

His owner put him on the block after he signed in NO. His team is rebuilding. Is the 1.12 fair?

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Price check on aisle 4 for Derek Carr in SF

His owner put him on the block after he signed in NO. His team is rebuilding. Is the 1.12 fair?

I think 1.12 is about right. I wouldn't want to give up much more than that.

 

[-OZ-]

Price check on aisle 4 for Derek Carr in SF

His owner put him on the block after he signed in NO. His team is rebuilding. Is the 1.12 fair?

I think 1.12 is about right. I wouldn't want to give up much more than that.

I offered the 8 and 12 for Carr and the 6.
He probably won’t take it.

 

[smbkrypt24]

Value on any non 1.01 single QB draft picks has to be down, right?

I am holding off before I make too many concrete decisions, but right now I do see a drop off at 1.04. I think the NFL draft will have some RBs rise dramatically and maybe 1-2 WRs. But as of not I want a top 3 pick or not feeling confident.

Interesting. I'm tempted to start buying up 23 picks "at a discount" because of that exact sentiment.

At this point I wouldn't be selling those picks unless I am combining for a top 3 pick. I would want to see how the NFL draft goes.

I’m sitting at 8 and 12 in SF. would happily give both for a top 3 pick but that’s not likely to fly.
Plus I need WR (kupp, Evans, Ridley) more than RB (Barkley, Henry, ekeler, Walker) but really need QB (tannehill, Lance, Watson).

In SF you will likely miss out on the top 3 QBs, top 2 RBs, Top 2 Wrs. Which leaves you your 4th best qb, 3rd best RB, 3rd best WR, or top TE.
Unless a player slips or someone goes after their guy I see this as a debate right now between Levis, Charbonnet, QJ, Mayer.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Value on any non 1.01 single QB draft picks has to be down, right?

I don’t see that at all. Gibbs & JSN are both looking really solid, pending landing spot. And Charbonet tested well - his stock could jump with a selection by say, MIA or PHI. Also this is a deep TE class. While Addison hurt his stock at the combine, a few other WRs helped theirs. And again, some NFL teams may still be in on a player who tested poorly. IIRC Ridley was similar to Addison in that he ran a slow 40 & had a 33” vert. He turned out to be ok.

I mean, you can try to lowball - I’ve been getting offers for 1.08, 1.10, 2.01 and they’ve all been fairly decent value. I’m just more in need of the youth for my rebuild. Anecdotal sample size of 1, but I’m not sure I buy into the negging before we know landing spots.

This still looks like a really solid class to me. If your league-mates feel the same, you should try to gobble up those mid-to-late 1sts.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Price check on aisle 4 for Derek Carr in SF

His owner put him on the block after he signed in NO. His team is rebuilding. Is the 1.12 fair?

I think 1.12 is about right. I wouldn't want to give up much more than that.

I offered the 8 and 12 for Carr and the 6.
He probably won’t take it.

In SF? I doubt that gets accepted. There just aren’t enough QBs right now. Good luck - I hope I’m wrong.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Value on any non 1.01 single QB draft picks has to be down, right?

I am holding off before I make too many concrete decisions, but right now I do see a drop off at 1.04. I think the NFL draft will have some RBs rise dramatically and maybe 1-2 WRs. But as of not I want a top 3 pick or not feeling confident.

Interesting. I'm tempted to start buying up 23 picks "at a discount" because of that exact sentiment.

At this point I wouldn't be selling those picks unless I am combining for a top 3 pick. I would want to see how the NFL draft goes.

I’m sitting at 8 and 12 in SF. would happily give both for a top 3 pick but that’s not likely to fly.
Plus I need WR (kupp, Evans, Ridley) more than RB (Barkley, Henry, ekeler, Walker) but really need QB (tannehill, Lance, Watson).

In SF you will likely miss out on the top 3 QBs, top 2 RBs, Top 2 Wrs. Which leaves you your 4th best qb, 3rd best RB, 3rd best WR, or top TE.
Unless a player slips or someone goes after their guy I see this as a debate right now between Levis, Charbonnet, QJ, Mayer.

This is a very calendar / perception dependent take though.

After the NFL draft everything we think we know about player value hits the reset button aside from maybe the top 3-4, and maybe there’s even movement there.

Hypothetical: Achane gets drafted by the Chiefs and they don’t re-sign McKinnon. Does he go late 1st in FF drafts?

Hypothetical 2: Sean Tucker, who didn’t attend the combine, goes ham at his pro day, gets drafted by BUF. How much does his FF stock rise?

Flowers to the Chiefs? Tillman to the Chargers? QJ to the Cowboys? There’s just so much that could happen.

Or any of those WR could go to the Ravens and die a horrible FF death. lol

And like seemingly every year, there will likely be players at 8-12 who end up being better than players at 3-7, so it’s hard to say who the WR3-4 is at the moment.

It’s just such a crap shoot. I’m as guilty if anyone of valuing player prospects based on current mocks, but I constantly remind myself that it’s a long way to being settled.