Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (4 Viewers)

[JoeJoe88]

CMC owners holding him until the wheels fall off or trying to get something while you still can?

That would just depend entirely on my team.

If I have any chance of being a top 3 team this year and winning a championship, it would take a massive overpay for me to move him, because he’s that much of a game-changer. And aside from injury, I don’t really see CMC slowing down production-wise anytime soon.

If I were transitioning into any sort of reload or soft rebuild then I’d be trying to move him, yes. But I’d be in no rush, and I’d certainly not sell low. Honestly, you’re probably going to get more for a guy like CMC in season than now. Wait until he drops one of his 45 point weeks and let one of the contenders come knocking at your door.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

CMC owners holding him until the wheels fall off or trying to get something while you still can?

That would just depend entirely on my team.

If I have any chance of being a top 3 team this year and winning a championship, it would take a massive overpay for me to move him, because he’s that much of a game-changer. And aside from injury, I don’t really see CMC slowing down production-wise anytime soon.

If I were transitioning into any sort of reload or soft rebuild then I’d be trying to move him, yes. But I’d be in no rush, and I’d certainly not sell low. Honestly, you’re probably going to get more for a guy like CMC in season than now. Wait until he drops one of his 45 point weeks and let one of the contenders come knocking at your door.

Appreciate the thoughts. I do have a shot at winning again this year. Do have a shot at getting Bijan so that prompted the thought.

 

[Ray_T]

CMC owners holding him until the wheels fall off or trying to get something while you still can?

That would just depend entirely on my team.

If I have any chance of being a top 3 team this year and winning a championship, it would take a massive overpay for me to move him, because he’s that much of a game-changer.

This is really what it comes down to. if you are gunning for a championship, hes a keep. if not, get a bidding war going among the contenders and take the best offer that comes your way. if you hold he wont last long enough to be useful to you when your rebuild is done. might as well give the rebuild a kickstart if thats whats going on.

 

[Gally]

I took Carr with a mid 11th round pick in a SF startup earlier this Spring. Pretty decent value for a starting QB that late IM

I ended going in another direction in Round 10 but I’m 6 picks away from my 11.05 pick and Carr is at the top of the list. But only 2 teams are allowed to take a QB in those picks (draft a max of 3 QBs in this format) so we’ll see if he makes it to me.

I bit the bullet and grabbed Carr at 11.5. I plan on starting him at SuperFlex over Bryce Young until/unless Bryce starts living up to his potential.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

If there were only two teams left eligible to take a QB I would likely of let the other guy go first (depending on who besides Carr was still available. There is a world where Carr doesn't finish out the year as a starter and really isn't a starter again. That is why he falls so far because there is no upside and the downside is he isn't even rosterable as a non-starter.

 

[JoeJoe88]

CMC owners holding him until the wheels fall off or trying to get something while you still can?

That would just depend entirely on my team.

If I have any chance of being a top 3 team this year and winning a championship, it would take a massive overpay for me to move him, because he’s that much of a game-changer. And aside from injury, I don’t really see CMC slowing down production-wise anytime soon.

If I were transitioning into any sort of reload or soft rebuild then I’d be trying to move him, yes. But I’d be in no rush, and I’d certainly not sell low. Honestly, you’re probably going to get more for a guy like CMC in season than now. Wait until he drops one of his 45 point weeks and let one of the contenders come knocking at your door.

Appreciate the thoughts. I do have a shot at winning again this year. Do have a shot at getting Bijan so that prompted the thought.

Does this mean a shot at getting Bijan by moving CMC? Depending on how much more you have to give on top of CMC, I would 100% do that if this is the case. I expect the output difference for this season between CMC and Bijan to be minimal, and once you factor in Bijan’s age it should be a slam dunk in dynasty. Again, depending on how much more you have to give.

I believe Bijan explodes this year and I wouldn’t be shocked at all if he’s the RB1 on the season.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Jahan Dotson: worth a 2026 2nd + 3rd?

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Jahan Dotson: worth a 2026 2nd + 3rd?

Seems a bit steep. Under 25, shown flashes and new staff/QB/ but my projections have him at <100 targets and 50 catches for this year.

 

[Birdie048]

Jahan Dotson: worth a 2026 2nd + 3rd?

Seems a bit steep. Under 25, shown flashes and new staff/QB/ but my projections have him at <100 targets and 50 catches for this year.

Plus when you add the new rookie toy 3rd round pick Luke McCaffrey getting good buzz, Dotson could be dropped deeper in the depth chart soon.
I like Dotson coming out, but I don't know what happened, but if they are "late 2nd & 3rd", maybe. But I wouldn't pay it.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

but if they are "late 2nd & 3rd", maybe. But I wouldn't pay it.

Expected to be late, and 16 team league, so 12-team equivalent to an early 3rd+4th.

 

[Big Nate]

Jahan Dotson: worth a 2026 2nd + 3rd?

Seems a bit steep. Under 25, shown flashes and new staff/QB/ but my projections have him at <100 targets and 50 catches for this year.

Plus when you add the new rookie toy 3rd round pick Luke McCaffrey getting good buzz, Dotson could be dropped deeper in the depth chart soon.
I like Dotson coming out, but I don't know what happened, but if they are "late 2nd & 3rd", maybe. But I wouldn't pay it.

So much rookie hype every year and so many fail to deliver. Is all the buzz around the name McCaffery and hoping he pans out. He's recently moved to the WR position. This could be a steep learning curve going to the NFL. I don't doubt he has the work ethic and determination to make it eventually but to make an impact year 1? I'm leaning Dotson this year.

I still think Dotson has the skills he just hasn't had a good QB or offense to work in. Now with a new rookie QB in town it might not be all that great in year 1. Maybe Dotson needs a change of scenery or hope he can eventually overtake the #1 WR spot on the team.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Jahan Dotson: worth a 2026 2nd + 3rd?

Seems a bit steep. Under 25, shown flashes and new staff/QB/ but my projections have him at <100 targets and 50 catches for this year.

Plus when you add the new rookie toy 3rd round pick Luke McCaffrey getting good buzz, Dotson could be dropped deeper in the depth chart soon.
I like Dotson coming out, but I don't know what happened, but if they are "late 2nd & 3rd", maybe. But I wouldn't pay it.

So much rookie hype every year and so many fail to deliver. Is all the buzz around the name McCaffery and hoping he pans out. He's recently moved to the WR position. This could be a steep learning curve going to the NFL. I don't doubt he has the work ethic and determination to make it eventually but to make an impact year 1? I'm leaning Dotson this year.

I still think Dotson has the skills he just hasn't had a good QB or offense to work in. Now with a new rookie QB in town it might not be all that great in year 1. Maybe Dotson needs a change of scenery or hope he can eventually overtake the #1 WR spot on the team.

I recently read that only 73% of Dotson’s targets were catchable last year. The Commanders aired it out a ton, but not very effectively. Howell was better than many expected, but was still disappointing

I agree Dotson is a better long-term target. I wouldn’t be shocked if he delivered well this year since his deep routes are a nice fit with Daniels big arm & downfield accuracy.

 

[Big Nate]

I wonder if I can get Dotson in my one dynasty league for a reasonable price. Maybe I go fishing. Price seems to be fairly low right now.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I wonder if I can get Dotson in my one dynasty league for a reasonable price. Maybe I go fishing. Price seems to be fairly low right now.

It’s tricky - my deal in the trade topic took me 3 days of negotiations.

He’s in a kind of dead zone where his value’s dipped due to last year, but remains high in the eyes of his shareholders due to year 1.

Plus 1st round talent, excitement about QB competency, etc.

My trade partner initially wanted a future 1st, and I was out at that price. That said, a 2025 2nd might get it done? I didn’t have that, so I sent 2x 2026 picks instead.

Good luck - report results!

 

[Birdie048]

I recently read that only 73% of Dotson’s targets were catchable last year. The Commanders aired it out a ton, but not very effectively. Howell was better than many expected, but was still disappointing

I agree Dotson is a better long-term target. I wouldn’t be shocked if he delivered well this year since his deep routes are a nice fit with Daniels big arm & downfield accuracy.

Article came out today from FantasyLife promoting Luke McCaffrey (part of the write up below)
Yeah, rookie news is all promises and glitter, but nothing concrete until after a few days of camp matter.

Luke McCaffrey (Rice) - Commanders​

6015/198 | RAS: 9.44 | Player comparison: Josh Reynolds

My favorite draft sleeper at the receiver position all spring is also, not surprisingly, also makes my favorite fantasy rookie sleepers list. Not only did McCaffrey get Day 2 draft capital (he was the last pick in Round 3), but he finds himself in an ideal situation.

A former four-star dual-threat quarterback, McCaffrey was a bust behind center. But he found his calling after switching positions at Rice, dropping a 131-1732-19 line over two seasons. McCaffrey was a base big-slot in college who moonlighted on the boundary (70/30 snap split).

I believe he could play either inside or outside at the next level. Keep in mind that McCaffrey has only been playing the receiver position for two years – he’s both an ascending talent, and a moldable ball of clay.

With the Commanders, McCaffrey is a lock to play in three-WR sets, and I also think he could push Jahan Dotson for the WR2 role. If McCaffrey wins that, it means he stays on the field when Washington goes to 12-personnel to get TE Ben Sinnott on the field

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I recently read that only 73% of Dotson’s targets were catchable last year. The Commanders aired it out a ton, but not very effectively. Howell was better than many expected, but was still disappointing

I agree Dotson is a better long-term target. I wouldn’t be shocked if he delivered well this year since his deep routes are a nice fit with Daniels big arm & downfield accuracy.

Article came out today from FantasyLife promoting Luke McCaffrey (part of the write up below)
Yeah, rookie news is all promises and glitter, but nothing concrete until after a few days of camp matter.

Luke McCaffrey (Rice) - Commanders​

6015/198 | RAS: 9.44 | Player comparison: Josh Reynolds

My favorite draft sleeper at the receiver position all spring is also, not surprisingly, also makes my favorite fantasy rookie sleepers list. Not only did McCaffrey get Day 2 draft capital (he was the last pick in Round 3), but he finds himself in an ideal situation.

A former four-star dual-threat quarterback, McCaffrey was a bust behind center. But he found his calling after switching positions at Rice, dropping a 131-1732-19 line over two seasons. McCaffrey was a base big-slot in college who moonlighted on the boundary (70/30 snap split).

I believe he could play either inside or outside at the next level. Keep in mind that McCaffrey has only been playing the receiver position for two years – he’s both an ascending talent, and a moldable ball of clay.

With the Commanders, McCaffrey is a lock to play in three-WR sets, and I also think he could push Jahan Dotson for the WR2 role. If McCaffrey wins that, it means he stays on the field when Washington goes to 12-personnel to get TE Ben Sinnott on the field

I saw that.

Best shape of his life & every rookie is having a great camp SZN.

I was a big fan of Dotson coming out. He had crazy efficiency year 1, and bad QB play year 2,

But he was absolutely worthy of 1st round selection in the NFL draft, and I believe he’s more talented, experienced, and versatile than McCaffery.

And as has been mentioned by others, they have different roles in the offense.

Long-term, McLaurin is 29, so opportunities could open up in future seasons. A change of teams in the future is also possible.

I like betting on talent if the cost isn’t that high.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Polarizing is the opinion that a rookie QB is going to come in and make Jahan Dotson look like a stud. Rookie QB will have growing pains and don't they thrive more on underneath routes? I could see McCaffrey getting a lot more work, if ready, because of the slot position being in the QB's face. I don't see Jayden Daniels supporting Dotson with deep throws, because I don't think he will have the confidence early in the season to push the ball deep.

All of this to say, I will take Dotson but preseason isn't when the time is right. I love a good fire sale, when confidence is in the basement... that is when I will pick up Dotson. Trade deadline or next offseason I will own Jahan Dotson. I think I am safe from overpaying and I don't believe any of his first half of 2024 will be starter worthy.

 

[Birdie048]

Polarizing is the opinion that a rookie QB is going to come in and make Jahan Dotson look like a stud. Rookie QB will have growing pains and don't they thrive more on underneath routes? I could see McCaffrey getting a lot more work, if ready, because of the slot position being in the QB's face. I don't see Jayden Daniels supporting Dotson with deep throws, because I don't think he will have the confidence early in the season to push the ball deep.

All of this to say, I will take Dotson but preseason isn't when the time is right. I love a good fire sale, when confidence is in the basement... that is when I will pick up Dotson. Trade deadline or next offseason I will own Jahan Dotson. I think I am safe from overpaying and I don't believe any of his first half of 2024 will be starter worthy.

I agree and support this theory and game plan.

 

[wgoldsph]

What's the dynasty value of Raheem Mostert?

Have an auction going and the current FA rbs have gone: Josh Jacobs 12, David Montgomery 10, Zach Moss 8, Singletary 7, Gus and Zeke 6, and Antonio Gibson 4 (league gives points for returns, so I'm assuming that's the reason behind this price)

I managed to grab Mostert for four dollars. Do people expect him to become a total pumpkin over night? He won't manage to score more in one crazy McDaniels game than Zeke will all season? Should I be trying to buy rock bottom everywhere?

 

[Dez]

Jahan Dotson: worth a 2026 2nd + 3rd?

Apparently he is worth a 2nd and James Conner in my league

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

What's the dynasty value of Raheem Mostert?

Have an auction going and the current FA rbs have gone: Josh Jacobs 12, David Montgomery 10, Zach Moss 8, Singletary 7, Gus and Zeke 6, and Antonio Gibson 4 (league gives points for returns, so I'm assuming that's the reason behind this price)

I managed to grab Mostert for four dollars. Do people expect him to become a total pumpkin over night? He won't manage to score more in one crazy McDaniels game than Zeke will all season? Should I be trying to buy rock bottom everywhere?

At the end of the day, though, he's a 32YO RB with an injury history who's sharing time with a dynamic 2nd year RB. For $4 auction value, you take him all day and just know that you won't get anything out of him in trade.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Jahan Dotson: worth a 2026 2nd + 3rd?

Apparently he is worth a 2nd and James Conner in my league

Wow. That’s a heck of a return. Was that a 2025 2nd?

I paid a 2026 2nd + 3rd, + Lance (who I got basically for free) so I feel much better about that.

As a Conner shareholder I’d probably want more than Dotson, especially with the pick.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Polarizing is the opinion that a rookie QB is going to come in and make Jahan Dotson look like a stud. Rookie QB will have growing pains and don't they thrive more on underneath routes? I could see McCaffrey getting a lot more work, if ready, because of the slot position being in the QB's face. I don't see Jayden Daniels supporting Dotson with deep throws, because I don't think he will have the confidence early in the season to push the ball deep.

All of this to say, I will take Dotson but preseason isn't when the time is right. I love a good fire sale, when confidence is in the basement... that is when I will pick up Dotson. Trade deadline or next offseason I will own Jahan Dotson. I think I am safe from overpaying and I don't believe any of his first half of 2024 will be starter worthy.

I agree and support this theory and game plan.

I don’t feel like anyone’s overpaying right now.

And there’s the non-zero chance that Dotson’s deep threat ability will be a good pairing with that rookie QB’s big arm talent,

If that comes to pass (no pun intended) Dotson’s value could jump. IIRC last year a few folks were projecting him ahead of McLaurin.

The kid has talent. He’s about to be paired with his best NFL QB to date (theoretically) - there’s an unrealized ceiling there is all I’m saying.

If that offense hits the ground running, the window will close awfully fast. I realize “if” is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Polarizing is the opinion that a rookie QB is going to come in and make Jahan Dotson look like a stud. Rookie QB will have growing pains and don't they thrive more on underneath routes? I could see McCaffrey getting a lot more work, if ready, because of the slot position being in the QB's face. I don't see Jayden Daniels supporting Dotson with deep throws, because I don't think he will have the confidence early in the season to push the ball deep.

All of this to say, I will take Dotson but preseason isn't when the time is right. I love a good fire sale, when confidence is in the basement... that is when I will pick up Dotson. Trade deadline or next offseason I will own Jahan Dotson. I think I am safe from overpaying and I don't believe any of his first half of 2024 will be starter worthy.

I agree and support this theory and game plan.

I don’t feel like anyone’s overpaying right now.

And there’s the non-zero chance that Dotson’s deep threat ability will be a good pairing with that rookie QB’s big arm talent,

If that comes to pass (no pun intended) Dotson’s value could jump. IIRC last year a few folks were projecting him ahead of McLaurin.

The kid has talent. He’s about to be paired with his best NFL QB to date (theoretically) - there’s an unrealized ceiling there is all I’m saying.

If that offense hits the ground running, the window will close awfully fast. I realize “if” is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence.

You're a hell of a salesman. I looked at KTC and his value is pretty low (WR56). I don't believe he will have early success but that price is incredibly low for someone who displayed great talent in Year 1.

 

[joey]

Polarizing is the opinion that a rookie QB is going to come in and make Jahan Dotson look like a stud. Rookie QB will have growing pains and don't they thrive more on underneath routes? I could see McCaffrey getting a lot more work, if ready, because of the slot position being in the QB's face. I don't see Jayden Daniels supporting Dotson with deep throws, because I don't think he will have the confidence early in the season to push the ball deep.

All of this to say, I will take Dotson but preseason isn't when the time is right. I love a good fire sale, when confidence is in the basement... that is when I will pick up Dotson. Trade deadline or next offseason I will own Jahan Dotson. I think I am safe from overpaying and I don't believe any of his first half of 2024 will be starter worthy.

I agree and support this theory and game plan.

I don’t feel like anyone’s overpaying right now.

And there’s the non-zero chance that Dotson’s deep threat ability will be a good pairing with that rookie QB’s big arm talent,

If that comes to pass (no pun intended) Dotson’s value could jump. IIRC last year a few folks were projecting him ahead of McLaurin.

The kid has talent. He’s about to be paired with his best NFL QB to date (theoretically) - there’s an unrealized ceiling there is all I’m saying.

If that offense hits the ground running, the window will close awfully fast. I realize “if” is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence.

You're a hell of a salesman. I looked at KTC and his value is pretty low (WR56). I don't believe he will have early success but that price is incredibly low for someone who displayed great talent in Year 1.

He’s WR50 in FBG dynasty rankings.
But agree entirely with his upside only 2 years away from being a 1st round draft pick.
I grabbed him in the 13th round of a dynasty startup with exactly these thoughts in mind.

 

[Birdie048]

Jahan Dotson: worth a 2026 2nd + 3rd?

Apparently he is worth a 2nd and James Conner in my league

Sorry Dez, but I cannot use your league as a benchmark for value in most other leagues .. Yours is just outside the norm.

 

[Big Nate]

What's the dynasty value of Raheem Mostert?

Have an auction going and the current FA rbs have gone: Josh Jacobs 12, David Montgomery 10, Zach Moss 8, Singletary 7, Gus and Zeke 6, and Antonio Gibson 4 (league gives points for returns, so I'm assuming that's the reason behind this price)

I managed to grab Mostert for four dollars. Do people expect him to become a total pumpkin over night? He won't manage to score more in one crazy McDaniels game than Zeke will all season? Should I be trying to buy rock bottom everywhere?

Mostert is the starter until he can go anymore. Ride him until you can't. Always a risk with his age but should be good to start the season.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Polarizing is the opinion that a rookie QB is going to come in and make Jahan Dotson look like a stud. Rookie QB will have growing pains and don't they thrive more on underneath routes? I could see McCaffrey getting a lot more work, if ready, because of the slot position being in the QB's face. I don't see Jayden Daniels supporting Dotson with deep throws, because I don't think he will have the confidence early in the season to push the ball deep.

All of this to say, I will take Dotson but preseason isn't when the time is right. I love a good fire sale, when confidence is in the basement... that is when I will pick up Dotson. Trade deadline or next offseason I will own Jahan Dotson. I think I am safe from overpaying and I don't believe any of his first half of 2024 will be starter worthy.

I agree and support this theory and game plan.

I don’t feel like anyone’s overpaying right now.

And there’s the non-zero chance that Dotson’s deep threat ability will be a good pairing with that rookie QB’s big arm talent,

If that comes to pass (no pun intended) Dotson’s value could jump. IIRC last year a few folks were projecting him ahead of McLaurin.

The kid has talent. He’s about to be paired with his best NFL QB to date (theoretically) - there’s an unrealized ceiling there is all I’m saying.

If that offense hits the ground running, the window will close awfully fast. I realize “if” is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence.

You're a hell of a salesman. I looked at KTC and his value is pretty low (WR56). I don't believe he will have early success but that price is incredibly low for someone who displayed great talent in Year 1.

Not so much a salesman, but someone who looks to identify buy-low players with upside for my own selfish purposes.

I guess I sold myself on him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Polarizing is the opinion that a rookie QB is going to come in and make Jahan Dotson look like a stud. Rookie QB will have growing pains and don't they thrive more on underneath routes? I could see McCaffrey getting a lot more work, if ready, because of the slot position being in the QB's face. I don't see Jayden Daniels supporting Dotson with deep throws, because I don't think he will have the confidence early in the season to push the ball deep.

All of this to say, I will take Dotson but preseason isn't when the time is right. I love a good fire sale, when confidence is in the basement... that is when I will pick up Dotson. Trade deadline or next offseason I will own Jahan Dotson. I think I am safe from overpaying and I don't believe any of his first half of 2024 will be starter worthy.

I agree and support this theory and game plan.

I don’t feel like anyone’s overpaying right now.

And there’s the non-zero chance that Dotson’s deep threat ability will be a good pairing with that rookie QB’s big arm talent,

If that comes to pass (no pun intended) Dotson’s value could jump. IIRC last year a few folks were projecting him ahead of McLaurin.

The kid has talent. He’s about to be paired with his best NFL QB to date (theoretically) - there’s an unrealized ceiling there is all I’m saying.

If that offense hits the ground running, the window will close awfully fast. I realize “if” is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence.

You're a hell of a salesman. I looked at KTC and his value is pretty low (WR56). I don't believe he will have early success but that price is incredibly low for someone who displayed great talent in Year 1.

Not so much a salesman, but someone who looks to identify buy-low players with upside for my own selfish purposes.

I guess I sold myself on him.

Just checked, and prior to last season Dotson was pick 8.06 in our league’s start-up draft.

16 teams, my picks are expected to be late. Feels like a bargain for late 2nd & 3rd round rookie picks just 1 season later.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

How far away do we all perceive the drop from MHJr, Rome, Nabers to the Worthy, Brian Thomas, McConkey, Coleman tier?

10 Team League - PPR - start 10 players

I am considering trading 1.10 and 2.01 (seeing whatever else I'd have to add) for the 1.02 or 1.03. It's pretty likely that Harrison will go 1st, which begs the question - is the talent of Nabers and, to an extent, Rome good enough to outweigh their circumstance/offensive landing spot?

I'm the defending champion and acquired 2.01 via trade... I'd chalked it up to taking two of these 3 players (Trey Benson, Brian Thomas Jr, Jayden Daniels or Keon Coleman). I am not as high on Keon Coleman... I think he has all the characteristics of a JAG but think highly of the other 3 players. Should I consider moving these two picks to go get Nabers or Rome? If I had an area of need, outside of my starters, I would say it is RB.

Bijan Robinson, Breece Hall, Devon Achane, Najee Harris, Ezekiel Elliott, Antonio Gibson... but I don't know if I necessarily need to add a player at this position this year. Thoughts? Advice? Therapy?

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

How far away do we all perceive the drop from MHJr, Rome, Nabers to the Worthy, Brian Thomas, McConkey, Coleman tier?

10 Team League - PPR - start 10 players

I am considering trading 1.10 and 2.01 (seeing whatever else I'd have to add) for the 1.02 or 1.03. It's pretty likely that Harrison will go 1st, which begs the question - is the talent of Nabers and, to an extent, Rome good enough to outweigh their circumstance/offensive landing spot?

I'm the defending champion and acquired 2.01 via trade... I'd chalked it up to taking two of these 3 players (Trey Benson, Brian Thomas Jr, Jayden Daniels or Keon Coleman). I am not as high on Keon Coleman... I think he has all the characteristics of a JAG but think highly of the other 3 players. Should I consider moving these two picks to go get Nabers or Rome? If I had an area of need, outside of my starters, I would say it is RB.

Bijan Robinson, Breece Hall, Devon Achane, Najee Harris, Ezekiel Elliott, Antonio Gibson... but I don't know if I necessarily need to add a player at this position this year. Thoughts? Advice? Therapy?

You're likely going to have to add significantly to 1.10 + 2.01 to get in the upper 1st round. I'd take BPA instead of trying to move up.

 

[Big Nate]

How far away do we all perceive the drop from MHJr, Rome, Nabers to the Worthy, Brian Thomas, McConkey, Coleman tier?

10 Team League - PPR - start 10 players

I am considering trading 1.10 and 2.01 (seeing whatever else I'd have to add) for the 1.02 or 1.03. It's pretty likely that Harrison will go 1st, which begs the question - is the talent of Nabers and, to an extent, Rome good enough to outweigh their circumstance/offensive landing spot?

I'm the defending champion and acquired 2.01 via trade... I'd chalked it up to taking two of these 3 players (Trey Benson, Brian Thomas Jr, Jayden Daniels or Keon Coleman). I am not as high on Keon Coleman... I think he has all the characteristics of a JAG but think highly of the other 3 players. Should I consider moving these two picks to go get Nabers or Rome? If I had an area of need, outside of my starters, I would say it is RB.

Bijan Robinson, Breece Hall, Devon Achane, Najee Harris, Ezekiel Elliott, Antonio Gibson... but I don't know if I necessarily need to add a player at this position this year. Thoughts? Advice? Therapy?

You're likely going to have to add significantly to 1.10 + 2.01 to get in the upper 1st round. I'd take BPA instead of trying to move up.

I probably lean this way, take BPA at those 2 picks or during the draft if you don't like what is there at 1.10 see if you can get a 1st round pick next year. Reroll it to a possible higher pick next year that is supposed to have a lot of RBs.

If this is a home league draft you might be surprised who falls/drops. Also during the draft if for some reason some reaches on a player (Bowers or maybe even Caleb) then you might be able to get say Rome at 4 or 5. Maybe then you can make the move sending 1.10 and 2.01 to try to get 4 or 5.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I probably value QB more than the average so have a hard time determining what their trade value is. 12 team, 6 point TDs. What receiver would you expect to get back in a Mahomes trade?

 

[Gally]

I probably value QB more than the average so have a hard time determining what their trade value is. 12 team, 6 point TDs. What receiver would you expect to get back in a Mahomes trade?

Likely not one you would be happy with. Trading QB's in one QB leagues never seem to return anywhere near the value they should.........especially if you are looking at a one for one deal. i would expect you could probably get a low end WR2/high end WR3 type.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

I probably value QB more than the average so have a hard time determining what their trade value is. 12 team, 6 point TDs. What receiver would you expect to get back in a Mahomes trade?

Keep him for 2 reasons.

1. Mahomes is a set it and forget it as you can get in 1QB leagues. That amount of destressing is invaluable.
2. Keep him out of other player's hands.

I've been a big proponent of getting/keeping a top flight guy in 1QB leagues. I used to stream QBs all the time from the depths of the draft or waiver wire. It's just too freakin' stressful and the divide from QB1 to QB20 seems to be much more than it was 10 years ago.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

How far away do we all perceive the drop from MHJr, Rome, Nabers to the Worthy, Brian Thomas, McConkey, Coleman tier?

10 Team League - PPR - start 10 players

I am considering trading 1.10 and 2.01 (seeing whatever else I'd have to add) for the 1.02 or 1.03. It's pretty likely that Harrison will go 1st, which begs the question - is the talent of Nabers and, to an extent, Rome good enough to outweigh their circumstance/offensive landing spot?

I'm the defending champion and acquired 2.01 via trade... I'd chalked it up to taking two of these 3 players (Trey Benson, Brian Thomas Jr, Jayden Daniels or Keon Coleman). I am not as high on Keon Coleman... I think he has all the characteristics of a JAG but think highly of the other 3 players. Should I consider moving these two picks to go get Nabers or Rome? If I had an area of need, outside of my starters, I would say it is RB.

Bijan Robinson, Breece Hall, Devon Achane, Najee Harris, Ezekiel Elliott, Antonio Gibson... but I don't know if I necessarily need to add a player at this position this year. Thoughts? Advice? Therapy?

You're likely going to have to add significantly to 1.10 + 2.01 to get in the upper 1st round. I'd take BPA instead of trying to move up.

I probably lean this way, take BPA at those 2 picks or during the draft if you don't like what is there at 1.10 see if you can get a 1st round pick next year. Reroll it to a possible higher pick next year that is supposed to have a lot of RBs.

If this is a home league draft you might be surprised who falls/drops. Also during the draft if for some reason some reaches on a player (Bowers or maybe even Caleb) then you might be able to get say Rome at 4 or 5. Maybe then you can make the move sending 1.10 and 2.01 to try to get 4 or 5.

It is a home league and I think I can give 1.10 and 2.01 easily for 1.04. I think it is within consideration based on roster construct.

I just think I like guys like Keon Coleman, Ladd McConkey because of their situation and less of their talent. I think they are fine players but my roster is full of JSN's, Tank Dell's and Zay Flower's. If you believe Rome, Nabers and MHJr are all top tier... it makes sense to go and get your guy.

Beyond their situations, Ladd and Coleman don't move the needle for me.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

10 Team League - PPR - start 10 players

I am considering trading 1.10 and 2.01 (seeing whatever else I'd have to add) for the 1.02 or 1.03

That’s not nearly enough to move up that high.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

It is a home league and I think I can give 1.10 and 2.01 easily for 1.04. I think it is within consideration based on roster construct

Ah - I didn’t see this before I posted

So you’ve got a guppy to abuse?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12 team, PPR SF

Chase or Bijan?

 

[JoeJoe88]

12 team, PPR SF

Chase or Bijan?

Bijan, but it’s close.

 

[TripItUp]

12 team, PPR SF

Chase or Bijan?

chase for me unless you are trying to win a chip year one

 

[Blick]

12 team, PPR SF

Chase or Bijan?

Chase. I have a feeling we’ll have a few more high end options at RB after next year’s draft.

 

[Gally]

12 team, PPR SF

Chase or Bijan?

Chase. Although Bijan should be the man he hasn't done it. Chase has and is a WR with a likely longer shelf life.

 

[Big Nate]

How far away do we all perceive the drop from MHJr, Rome, Nabers to the Worthy, Brian Thomas, McConkey, Coleman tier?

10 Team League - PPR - start 10 players

I am considering trading 1.10 and 2.01 (seeing whatever else I'd have to add) for the 1.02 or 1.03. It's pretty likely that Harrison will go 1st, which begs the question - is the talent of Nabers and, to an extent, Rome good enough to outweigh their circumstance/offensive landing spot?

I'm the defending champion and acquired 2.01 via trade... I'd chalked it up to taking two of these 3 players (Trey Benson, Brian Thomas Jr, Jayden Daniels or Keon Coleman). I am not as high on Keon Coleman... I think he has all the characteristics of a JAG but think highly of the other 3 players. Should I consider moving these two picks to go get Nabers or Rome? If I had an area of need, outside of my starters, I would say it is RB.

Bijan Robinson, Breece Hall, Devon Achane, Najee Harris, Ezekiel Elliott, Antonio Gibson... but I don't know if I necessarily need to add a player at this position this year. Thoughts? Advice? Therapy?

You're likely going to have to add significantly to 1.10 + 2.01 to get in the upper 1st round. I'd take BPA instead of trying to move up.

I probably lean this way, take BPA at those 2 picks or during the draft if you don't like what is there at 1.10 see if you can get a 1st round pick next year. Reroll it to a possible higher pick next year that is supposed to have a lot of RBs.

If this is a home league draft you might be surprised who falls/drops. Also during the draft if for some reason some reaches on a player (Bowers or maybe even Caleb) then you might be able to get say Rome at 4 or 5. Maybe then you can make the move sending 1.10 and 2.01 to try to get 4 or 5.

It is a home league and I think I can give 1.10 and 2.01 easily for 1.04. I think it is within consideration based on roster construct.

I just think I like guys like Keon Coleman, Ladd McConkey because of their situation and less of their talent. I think they are fine players but my roster is full of JSN's, Tank Dell's and Zay Flower's. If you believe Rome, Nabers and MHJr are all top tier... it makes sense to go and get your guy.

Beyond their situations, Ladd and Coleman don't move the needle for me.

I really like the idea of getting Ladd if he is there at 1.10.

What about sending Dell + one of those picks for moving up. Or FLowers + a pick to get a top WR? Maybe one of those early guys like one of the established players better - if they are really high on one.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

How far away do we all perceive the drop from MHJr, Rome, Nabers to the Worthy, Brian Thomas, McConkey, Coleman tier?

10 Team League - PPR - start 10 players

I am considering trading 1.10 and 2.01 (seeing whatever else I'd have to add) for the 1.02 or 1.03. It's pretty likely that Harrison will go 1st, which begs the question - is the talent of Nabers and, to an extent, Rome good enough to outweigh their circumstance/offensive landing spot?

I'm the defending champion and acquired 2.01 via trade... I'd chalked it up to taking two of these 3 players (Trey Benson, Brian Thomas Jr, Jayden Daniels or Keon Coleman). I am not as high on Keon Coleman... I think he has all the characteristics of a JAG but think highly of the other 3 players. Should I consider moving these two picks to go get Nabers or Rome? If I had an area of need, outside of my starters, I would say it is RB.

Bijan Robinson, Breece Hall, Devon Achane, Najee Harris, Ezekiel Elliott, Antonio Gibson... but I don't know if I necessarily need to add a player at this position this year. Thoughts? Advice? Therapy?

You're likely going to have to add significantly to 1.10 + 2.01 to get in the upper 1st round. I'd take BPA instead of trying to move up.

I probably lean this way, take BPA at those 2 picks or during the draft if you don't like what is there at 1.10 see if you can get a 1st round pick next year. Reroll it to a possible higher pick next year that is supposed to have a lot of RBs.

If this is a home league draft you might be surprised who falls/drops. Also during the draft if for some reason some reaches on a player (Bowers or maybe even Caleb) then you might be able to get say Rome at 4 or 5. Maybe then you can make the move sending 1.10 and 2.01 to try to get 4 or 5.

It is a home league and I think I can give 1.10 and 2.01 easily for 1.04. I think it is within consideration based on roster construct.

I just think I like guys like Keon Coleman, Ladd McConkey because of their situation and less of their talent. I think they are fine players but my roster is full of JSN's, Tank Dell's and Zay Flower's. If you believe Rome, Nabers and MHJr are all top tier... it makes sense to go and get your guy.

Beyond their situations, Ladd and Coleman don't move the needle for me.

I really like the idea of getting Ladd if he is there at 1.10.

What about sending Dell + one of those picks for moving up. Or FLowers + a pick to get a top WR? Maybe one of those early guys like one of the established players better - if they are really high on one.

I agree, I think Ladd will be a good slot receiver but his size will probably keep him from being a vertical threat or redzone target.

I may just have to wait until I am OTC or the draft has begun to see how things fall. With this league, I think MHJr and Nabers get drafted in the first 2 picks, but Caleb, Bowers, Rome, Brooks are all possible at pick 3. I might start entering some situational talks with pick #3. If he is someone interested in anyone outside of Rome or Bowers, I could see them trading the pick.

If I stand pat, I would hope for BTJ, Ladd, Brooks or Benson at the picks I hold - that would mean Jayden Daniels would have to be drafted ahead of consensus.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Would you trade down from the 1.02 to the 1.05 & 1.07? Just picked up a SF orphan that's absolutely gutted. Best QB is Fields. No RB1s. Waddle and Kincaid are probably the only players worth building around (arguable). MHJ would be a good cornerstone for this team, but without a serviceable QB, this team is straight up dead in the water. Moving down gives the opportunity to pick up a top tier QB and WR. In most cases, I'm against moving down into the middle 1st, but in this case, just getting warm bodies to put together a roster is probably necessary.

 

[efactor]

In 1/2 PPR, debating between Drake London and Nico Collins. Love them both and while Collins has the young, up and coming superstar QB, he has a lot of competition for targets at least this year and a decent chance next year as well if Diggs plays nice and the offense cooks this year. London on the other hand has old man Cousins and he will probably be there for 2 years max. After that a question mark in Penix. But should be a target hog and I see a potential Justin Jefferson type player. Leaning London but any input would be appreciated.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Would you trade down from the 1.02 to the 1.05 & 1.07? Just picked up a SF orphan that's absolutely gutted. Best QB is Fields. No RB1s. Waddle and Kincaid are probably the only players worth building around (arguable). MHJ would be a good cornerstone for this team, but without a serviceable QB, this team is straight up dead in the water. Moving down gives the opportunity to pick up a top tier QB and WR. In most cases, I'm against moving down into the middle 1st, but in this case, just getting warm bodies to put together a roster is probably necessary.

I don't think I trade down - you end up with Caleb or MHJr. Those players are cornerstones for your team. I think I would rather try to sell Waddle for picks than give up on the Caleb/MHJr opportunity.

I understand needing bodies but I can't justify giving up the opportunity to own a league changing player with the pick you currently have.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Would you trade down from the 1.02 to the 1.05 & 1.07? Just picked up a SF orphan that's absolutely gutted. Best QB is Fields. No RB1s. Waddle and Kincaid are probably the only players worth building around (arguable). MHJ would be a good cornerstone for this team, but without a serviceable QB, this team is straight up dead in the water. Moving down gives the opportunity to pick up a top tier QB and WR. In most cases, I'm against moving down into the middle 1st, but in this case, just getting warm bodies to put together a roster is probably necessary.

In SF I think I might do that for a rebuild.

That said, at 1.02 you either get the QB2 or the WR1, or possibly the QB1.

Two thoughts:
1. Do you know if 1.01 is taking Caleb?
2. Can you wait until you’re OTC to make the deal?

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

In 1/2 PPR, debating between Drake London and Nico Collins. Love them both and while Collins has the young, up and coming superstar QB, he has a lot of competition for targets at least this year and a decent chance next year as well if Diggs plays nice and the offense cooks this year. London on the other hand has old man Cousins and he will probably be there for 2 years max. After that a question mark in Penix. But should be a target hog and I see a potential Justin Jefferson type player. Leaning London but any input would be appreciated.

Just a player swap Nico for London?

In your assessment, you mentioned competition for targets. Drake London is not alone on the Falcons. I think Pitts will be involved heavily, including as a down the field threat, and Darnell Mooney is likely a lot closer to the player we thought he could be early in his career.

Nico is an interesting situation because Tank Dell, when healthy, was matching his target numbers. With another mouth to feed, I see Dalton Schultz regressing and Stefon Diggs will probably never be prime Stefon Diggs. I am probably in the minority but view Tank Dell as the player to own in Houston.

I guess my question would be, does it make more sense to include something with the trade to move up a tier and grab a guy like Garrett Wilson, ARSB?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12 team SF PPR, no K, no D/ST, start 10 very flexy lineup. I just dealt for Chase Brown.

My RB room is now Bijan, ETN, Mixon, Monty, Brown, Pierce, Gray, Guerendo, Prince, AJD

WRs are AJB, ARSB, Higgins, Jeudy, Gabe Davis, Bateman, Mike Williams, AT Perry, Iosivas

Would you deal ETN for Pittman straight up?

On the 1 hand, it would get me 4-deep at WR, and I’d still have Bijan, Monty, Mixon, Brown + scraps. On the other hand, it gets me older at RB, with only Bijan & Chase as my younger backs.

Would you do it? I have an enviable RB room and I can start 4. I could just roll as-is and hope one of Gabe Davis, Bateman, or Williams steps up as a WR4/BYE guy.

I’m torn. I like Pittman a lot. I like ETN a lot. I have them very close in dynasty value.