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Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (5 Viewers)

Charbonnet worth the 3.01 if you are a KW owner?
Are you kidding me? Assuming you're talking about the 3.01 rookie. Of course do that. Run to do it. I can see KW gone after 2025 to free agency and we saw Charbonnet do very well with Walker out. Hell, Walker didn't look good at all when he did play in 2024.
He countered with Kyle Pitts for Charbs haha. 1.5 TE Premium. The Pitts train has not been a fun one but he’s still so young.
 
Charbonnet worth the 3.01 if you are a KW owner?
Are you kidding me? Assuming you're talking about the 3.01 rookie. Of course do that. Run to do it. I can see KW gone after 2025 to free agency and we saw Charbonnet do very well with Walker out. Hell, Walker didn't look good at all when he did play in 2024.
He countered with Kyle Pitts for Charbs haha. 1.5 TE Premium. The Pitts train has not been a fun one but he’s still so young.
I wouldn't trust Pitts as far as I can throw him, even in te prem.
 
Charbonnet worth the 3.01 if you are a KW owner?
Are you kidding me? Assuming you're talking about the 3.01 rookie. Of course do that. Run to do it. I can see KW gone after 2025 to free agency and we saw Charbonnet do very well with Walker out. Hell, Walker didn't look good at all when he did play in 2024.
He countered with Kyle Pitts for Charbs haha. 1.5 TE Premium. The Pitts train has not been a fun one but he’s still so young.
I wouldn't trust Pitts as far as I can throw him, even in te prem.
At your age, you shouldn’t be throwing anyone 😎
 
Charbonnet worth the 3.01 if you are a KW owner?
Are you kidding me? Assuming you're talking about the 3.01 rookie. Of course do that. Run to do it. I can see KW gone after 2025 to free agency and we saw Charbonnet do very well with Walker out. Hell, Walker didn't look good at all when he did play in 2024.
He countered with Kyle Pitts for Charbs haha. 1.5 TE Premium. The Pitts train has not been a fun one but he’s still so young.
I wouldn't trust Pitts as far as I can throw him, even in te prem.
At your age, you shouldn’t be throwing anyone 😎
shut TFU, I'm in my prime
 
Charbonnet worth the 3.01 if you are a KW owner?
Are you kidding me? Assuming you're talking about the 3.01 rookie. Of course do that. Run to do it. I can see KW gone after 2025 to free agency and we saw Charbonnet do very well with Walker out. Hell, Walker didn't look good at all when he did play in 2024.
He countered with Kyle Pitts for Charbs haha. 1.5 TE Premium. The Pitts train has not been a fun one but he’s still so young.
I wouldn't trust Pitts as far as I can throw him, even in te prem.
Yeah, I’m considering still pulling the trigger. I’m probably never starting Pitts over Engram this year anyway.
 
Charbonnet worth the 3.01 if you are a KW owner?
Are you kidding me? Assuming you're talking about the 3.01 rookie. Of course do that. Run to do it. I can see KW gone after 2025 to free agency and we saw Charbonnet do very well with Walker out. Hell, Walker didn't look good at all when he did play in 2024.
He countered with Kyle Pitts for Charbs haha. 1.5 TE Premium. The Pitts train has not been a fun one but he’s still so young.
In the league I have Pitts I’d probably make that deal if I needed a RB and had depth at TE.
 
Charbonnet worth the 3.01 if you are a KW owner?
Are you kidding me? Assuming you're talking about the 3.01 rookie. Of course do that. Run to do it. I can see KW gone after 2025 to free agency and we saw Charbonnet do very well with Walker out. Hell, Walker didn't look good at all when he did play in 2024.
He countered with Kyle Pitts for Charbs haha. 1.5 TE Premium. The Pitts train has not been a fun one but he’s still so young.
In the league I have Pitts I’d probably make that deal if I needed a RB and had depth at TE.
TE room would be Engram, Ferguson, Strange and Musgrave.
 
Charbonnet worth the 3.01 if you are a KW owner?
Are you kidding me? Assuming you're talking about the 3.01 rookie. Of course do that. Run to do it. I can see KW gone after 2025 to free agency and we saw Charbonnet do very well with Walker out. Hell, Walker didn't look good at all when he did play in 2024.
He countered with Kyle Pitts for Charbs haha. 1.5 TE Premium. The Pitts train has not been a fun one but he’s still so young.
In the league I have Pitts I’d probably make that deal if I needed a RB and had depth at TE.
TE room would be Engram, Ferguson, Strange and Musgrave.
Why are you hanging on to Musgrave? deep rosters?
 
Charbonnet worth the 3.01 if you are a KW owner?
Are you kidding me? Assuming you're talking about the 3.01 rookie. Of course do that. Run to do it. I can see KW gone after 2025 to free agency and we saw Charbonnet do very well with Walker out. Hell, Walker didn't look good at all when he did play in 2024.
He countered with Kyle Pitts for Charbs haha. 1.5 TE Premium. The Pitts train has not been a fun one but he’s still so young.
In the league I have Pitts I’d probably make that deal if I needed a RB and had depth at TE.
TE room would be Engram, Ferguson, Strange and Musgrave.
Why are you hanging on to Musgrave? deep rosters?
Yeah, it’s 30 man rosters. Just don’t think a reason to cut bait with him yet. He flashed (sorta) early and he had good draft capital.
 
Value check on Tyrone Tracy in a 12 team PPR league now that Skattebo is in the house? Anyone seen any trades in the past couple of days involving Tracy?
 
Value check on Tyrone Tracy in a 12 team PPR league now that Skattebo is in the house? Anyone seen any trades in the past couple of days involving Tracy?

This was before the draft, but I dealt Zay Flowers and Tracy for a 2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.

I'm thinking people who really like Tracy (or own him already) are still high on him and think he can hang onto the lead role, and people who never liked him or don't own him will be down on him because Skattebo is in town with his 3-down skillset. Personally, I think it very likely becomes a committee, and the offense isn't good enough to support 2 backs, so I'm likely staying away. But if the pendulum swings too far in favor of Skattebo, Tracy could become a nice value again.

Currently on KTC Skattebo is RB26 and Tracy is RB27 so they are essentially equal in value, and I'd imagine rookie fever will make that gap widen in favor of Cam a bit over the next few months.
 
From what I've been able to find it looks like Tracy is being valued as a late 1st/early 2nd round rookie pick. That seems high to me and I doubt I would give up that type of pick. Maybe I'm off on his outlook or maybe rankings and startup ADP haven't adjusted much yet.
 
Value check on Tyrone Tracy in a 12 team PPR league now that Skattebo is in the house? Anyone seen any trades in the past couple of days involving Tracy?
Post draft it can’t be as high as it was pre-draft.
In other news, water is wet ;)

Can’t imagine Tracy being worth more than a mid-2nd at this point. Sure, he’s still a starting RB but you don’t have to squint too hard to see Skateboo taking his job and/or a true 50/50 committee being the results.

Either way, Tracy owners will likely hold onto Tracy if offered a late 2nd, hoping he keeps the job and Skateboo is just a backup.
And I don’t see many owners paying more than a mid-2nd.

Ymmv.
 
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Tyrone Tracy price check

Didn't see him play much, but stats look good. Already in his age 25 season. Is he worth throwing a late 1st rounder offer out? 1.11 to be exact.


Thanks
RB's are always a gamble until after FA and the draft, especially 5th rounders like him with little draft capital facing a strong RB draft coming in. There are probably ~4-5 rookie RB's I'd rather have then him depending on landing spot. I'd hold, especially if you're talking about a 1st.
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I'd put his value at about a 2025 mid-2nd now by my rankings.
 
From what I've been able to find it looks like Tracy is being valued as a late 1st/early 2nd round rookie pick. That seems high to me and I doubt I would give up that type of pick. Maybe I'm off on his outlook or maybe rankings and startup ADP haven't adjusted much yet.

I think this is a case where calculators/ADP haven't caught up to the reality yet.

I doubt anyone could get a late 1st for Tracy at this point.

At a mid-2nd I would actually consider buying. Those are dart throws anyway.
 
Kittle value check?

Old, but gold.

Feel pretty good about trotting Kittle out there as a TE1 for the next 2-3 years. Perhaps by the last year or two of his current deal he will be on the decline, but he seems like the type to take the Zach Ertz career path which is to say he still sees enough targets and catches enough balls to be viable into his mid 30s.

Where we at with TJ Hock in a 1.5 TE Premium? Worth giving up the 1.10 for?

I think that's pretty spot on for his value in that format. You could hope for one of the two first round rookie TEs to be there at 1.10, but it's not a sure thing, and it's also not a sure thing they "hit" and become as good of a fantasy piece as Hockenson. People forget how good he was in 2023 (nearly had a 100/1,000 season before tearing his ACL in week 15) and he should be back to full speed for 2025 and still in his prime (turns 28 this summer).
 
Kittle value check?

Old, but gold.

Feel pretty good about trotting Kittle out there as a TE1 for the next 2-3 years. Perhaps by the last year or two of his current deal he will be on the decline, but he seems like the type to take the Zach Ertz career path which is to say he still sees enough targets and catches enough balls to be viable into his mid 30s.

Where we at with TJ Hock in a 1.5 TE Premium? Worth giving up the 1.10 for?

I think that's pretty spot on for his value in that format. You could hope for one of the two first round rookie TEs to be there at 1.10, but it's not a sure thing, and it's also not a sure thing they "hit" and become as good of a fantasy piece as Hockenson. People forget how good he was in 2023 (nearly had a 100/1,000 season before tearing his ACL in week 15) and he should be back to full speed for 2025 and still in his prime (turns 28 this summer).
100% agree on Kittle, surprised people would want to unload him. I think he will be the focal point this year in the passing game with Aiyuk ailing and Deebo gone.

The only caveat was Hock was hot during when JJ was hurt that year. I do think with a first year starter at QB, strengthened oline, and Hock fully healed up that he has a strong year.
 
The only caveat was Hock was hot during when JJ was hurt that year. I do think with a first year starter at QB, strengthened oline, and Hock fully healed up that he has a strong year.

Good memory. He definitely had some big spike weeks while JJ was out, especially this 4 game stretch weeks 7-11:
11/86 on 12 targets
6/88/1 on 9 targets
7/69 on 12 targets
11/134/1 on 15 targets (!!)

He also had his 2nd best game of the year with JJ healthy (week 2: 7/66/2 on 8 targets) and averaged nearly 8 targets per game in the games that he and JJ both played fully.
 
I’ve got Bowers and Kittle, and someone’s offered a likely mid/early 26 1st for Kittle

Worth the trade?
It depends on your roster. Are you rebuilding or contending? I assume you are rebuilding, but it still depends on what stage of rebuilding you are in. I would be okay with letting Kittle go for that, but you must be comfortable with getting that random first. You never know, that pick could go all over the board. It could be a top three or bottom three.

If I were a contender, I might want to hold onto him for depth in case of a Bowers injury or a playoff sell for a piece I need in the playoffs. If you can start two tight ends in your lineup, this can also come in useful during bye weeks and injuries to your running backs or wide receivers. I had Laporta and Kittle in a league, which had to be an option on multiple occasions.
 
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What are people thinking of value for Rhamondre Stevenson? Clearly not what it was but I seemingly can't give him away
His perceived value has never been on par with his production, but having Henderson in tow definitely won't help. For me, he's a hold with the hope he'll get traded and produce similarly with another team.
 
What are people thinking of value for Rhamondre Stevenson? Clearly not what it was but I seemingly can't give him away

Sounds about right. I had little interest in him before the draft, virtually none now. I wouldn't consider him as anything more than a throw-in if I saw his name pop up in an offer.
 
What are people thinking of value for Rhamondre Stevenson? Clearly not what it was but I seemingly can't give him away

Sounds about right. I had little interest in him before the draft, virtually none now. I wouldn't consider him as anything more than a throw-in if I saw his name pop up in an offer.
Add to that, likely trade partners to have drafted Henderson in the rookie draft so there’s some handcuff appeal. Still, maybe worth a mid/later 3rd rounder. Just spitballing since I don’t roster either.
 
How far away is a trade of AJ Brown for CeeDee Lamb (include upcharge as owner is a Cowboys fan).

I've considered sending my AJ Brown + 1.05 for Lamb. Is that a lot? This season, as a Cowboys fan, points to volume coming to CeeDee.
 
How far away is a trade of AJ Brown for CeeDee Lamb (include upcharge as owner is a Cowboys fan).

I've considered sending my AJ Brown + 1.05 for Lamb. Is that a lot? This season, as a Cowboys fan, points to volume coming to CeeDee.
IMO, CeeDee is one of the top dynasty assets. I don’t think AJ and the 1.05 is close. You’re short at least another first, maybe more.
 
What are people thinking of value for Rhamondre Stevenson? Clearly not what it was but I seemingly can't give him away
Pretty low until we see the split in that backfield.

I can’t imagine it will be zero, & sometimes can’t miss rookies, do.

I’m holding for now. Just a very low time to sell.
 
How far away is a trade of AJ Brown for CeeDee Lamb (include upcharge as owner is a Cowboys fan).

I've considered sending my AJ Brown + 1.05 for Lamb. Is that a lot? This season, as a Cowboys fan, points to volume coming to CeeDee.
IMO, CeeDee is one of the top dynasty assets. I don’t think AJ and the 1.05 is close. You’re short at least another first, maybe more.
I have AJB in 3 leagues.

I have CeeDee in one of those leagues.

No way I sell CeeDee for AJB + a single future 1st.
 
What are people thinking of value for Rhamondre Stevenson? Clearly not what it was but I seemingly can't give him away

Sounds about right. I had little interest in him before the draft, virtually none now. I wouldn't consider him as anything more than a throw-in if I saw his name pop up in an offer.
Add to that, likely trade partners to have drafted Henderson in the rookie draft so there’s some handcuff appeal. Still, maybe worth a mid/later 3rd rounder. Just spitballing since I don’t roster either.
Yeah, probably worth more to whomever buys on Henderson. That’s probably who I’ll target in trade in the 2 leagues I have a share.
 
16 team SF PPR IDP TE-P, start 11/11

Struggling a little with this idea. New owner in league put Saquan on the block.

After a chat said he needs a LB.and wants to get younger.

So I was considering offering Hall+Aziz Al-Shaair for Barkley. I think the (present day) value is right.

Context: I won the league 2 years ago, and my roster isn’t getting younger. My plan was to go into the year as-is, make a run, and see if I’m playoff-bound. If not, sell all my aging assets for 2026/2027 picks, and rebuild around a core of younger players over the next 2 years (have 2 solid young QB, Breece, 2 young WR, and a lot of young IDP assets)

This potential deal would likely help me to complete better this year, but also gets me 5 years older at RB. I worry that it’s a sell-low on Breece since he’s likely done with the Jets, if not this year then next.

Am I overthinking this? I can definitely flip Barkley at the deadline if I decide to pull the trigger on a rebuild. But I can also see a scenario where Breece is more valuable than Barkley in 1-2 years.

Opinions appreciated.
 
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This potential deal would likely help me to complete better this year, but also gets me 5 years older at RB. I worry that it’s a sell-low on Breece since he’s likely done with the Jets, if not this year then next.

This is only my opinion, but if he takes Al-Shaair and Hall then I'd probably do that deal if you're in contention. This comes with all the usual caveats and uncertainty and also is a window into how I've always coveted Barkley in my two leagues, but I'd do that deal if I was getting Barkley.
 
How far away is a trade of AJ Brown for CeeDee Lamb (include upcharge as owner is a Cowboys fan).

I've considered sending my AJ Brown + 1.05 for Lamb. Is that a lot? This season, as a Cowboys fan, points to volume coming to CeeDee.
It's not really a lot because I'd prefer Lamb but I don't think it's insulting to send. Maybe they need a RB or get rookie fever really bad or feel like Pickens will eat a little into Lamb. So my take is for sure put away any qualms about overpaying, if that was your concern, but I'd feel free to make the offer and not think I was insulting someone.
 
This potential deal would likely help me to complete better this year, but also gets me 5 years older at RB. I worry that it’s a sell-low on Breece since he’s likely done with the Jets, if not this year then next.

This is only my opinion, but if he takes Al-Shaair and Hall then I'd probably do that deal if you're in contention. This comes with all the usual caveats and uncertainty and also is a window into how I've always coveted Barkley in my two leagues, but I'd do that deal if I was getting Barkley.
That’s the idea - offer Hall+Al-Shaair for Barkley.

I believe I’d be in contention, yes. And if not, probably easy to flip Barkley at the deadline for future 1sts.

But I’ve got a bit of FOMO on Hall’s future value that may or may not manifest. I keep seeing trade rumors, and he’s a FA after this year IIRC.

But Barkley >> Hall this year, for sure.
 
This potential deal would likely help me to complete better this year, but also gets me 5 years older at RB. I worry that it’s a sell-low on Breece since he’s likely done with the Jets, if not this year then next.

This is only my opinion, but if he takes Al-Shaair and Hall then I'd probably do that deal if you're in contention. This comes with all the usual caveats and uncertainty and also is a window into how I've always coveted Barkley in my two leagues, but I'd do that deal if I was getting Barkley.
That’s the idea - offer Hall+Al-Shaair for Barkley.

I believe I’d be in contention, yes. And if not, probably easy to flip Barkley at the deadline for future 1sts.

But I’ve got a bit of FOMO on Hall’s future value that may or may not manifest. I keep seeing trade rumors, and he’s a FA after this year IIRC.

But Barkley >> Hall this year, for sure.

Yeah, Breece could blow up if traded for sure. That's the risk you run, I guess.
 
How far away is a trade of AJ Brown for CeeDee Lamb (include upcharge as owner is a Cowboys fan).

I've considered sending my AJ Brown + 1.05 for Lamb. Is that a lot? This season, as a Cowboys fan, points to volume coming to CeeDee.
IMO, CeeDee is one of the top dynasty assets. I don’t think AJ and the 1.05 is close. You’re short at least another first, maybe more.
Lamb trade in my league a few weeks ago was

  • Outlaws gave up Year 2025 Draft Pick 1.08; Year 2026 Round 1 Draft Pick from Outlaws; Year 2026 Round 2 Draft Pick from Outlaws; Year 2026 Round 2 Draft Pick from Slickwillies
  • Black Knights gave up Lamb, CeeDee DAL WR
 

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