Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (3 Viewers)

[joey]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

I have him in my only SF league as my QB2. I definitely value him much higher than others because he’s my only “real starting QB” behind Lamar, with Carr retiring and Shough as the hopeful replacement.

That said, I would definitely take Penix, Purdy, McCarthy and likely Dak over him. I could see maybe having him in a similar tier to Ward but I’d probably have the “Shiny New 1st Overall Pick” in Ward over the “He’s Been Horrible in the Pros but Finally Showed a Glimpse after Being Benched” in Bryce.

So, yea, late 1st rounder sounds right to me.

 

[-OZ-]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

I have him in my only SF league as my QB2. I definitely value him much higher than others because he’s my only “real starting QB” behind Lamar, with Carr retiring and Shough as the hopeful replacement.

That said, I would definitely take Penix, Purdy, McCarthy and likely Dak over him. I could see maybe having him in a similar tier to Ward but I’d probably have the “Shiny New 1st Overall Pick” in Ward over the “He’s Been Horrible in the Pros but Finally Showed a Glimpse after Being Benched” in Bryce.

So, yea, late 1st rounder sounds right to me.

Thanks. Now I’m curious - where would you put Ward in the SF rookie draft?

 

[titusbramble]

Well I took Ward 1.03, if only because I'm not touching either of the top two WRs with a barge pole, I have a QB need, he was BPA at the time imo and after the top three I have maybe two more players I have a first round grades on so market to trade down was non existent

 

[JohnnyU]

Well I took Ward 1.03, if only because I'm not touching either of the top two WRs with a barge pole, I have a QB need, he was BPA at the time imo and after the top three I have maybe two more players I have a first round grades on so market to trade down was non existent

Personally I don't think this is the year to be taking a QB that high, even in superFlex, because I don't like these QBs per se. I would have taken one of the Ohio St. RBs assuming Jeanty is gone. I can't see Ward ever being a top tier fantasy QB. Just my opinion of course, so take with a grain of salt.

 

[-OZ-]

Well I took Ward 1.03, if only because I'm not touching either of the top two WRs with a barge pole, I have a QB need, he was BPA at the time imo and after the top three I have maybe two more players I have a first round grades on so market to trade down was non existent

Personally I don't think this is the year to be taking a QB that high, even in superFlex, because I don't like these QBs per se. I would have taken one of the Ohio St. RBs assuming Jeanty is gone. I can't see Ward ever being a top tier fantasy QB. Just my opinion of course, so take with a grain of salt.

As a titans fan I hope you’re wrong, although it’s clearly possible to be a good or great NFL QB and not great in FF.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

I've got him closer to a late 2025 1st. The 2025 draft is chock full of good to great players and I'm not convinced Young's late season improvement was real.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

I have him in my only SF league as my QB2. I definitely value him much higher than others because he’s my only “real starting QB” behind Lamar, with Carr retiring and Shough as the hopeful replacement.

That said, I would definitely take Penix, Purdy, McCarthy and likely Dak over him. I could see maybe having him in a similar tier to Ward but I’d probably have the “Shiny New 1st Overall Pick” in Ward over the “He’s Been Horrible in the Pros but Finally Showed a Glimpse after Being Benched” in Bryce.

So, yea, late 1st rounder sounds right to me.

Thanks. Now I’m curious - where would you put Ward in the SF rookie draft?

The team picking 1.01 is very typically there because they don’t have QBs.

So I’m betting he’s frequently the 1.01

I believe Jeanty is a better pick. If it’s IDP I have it Jeanty ~> cheat code DB/WR Hunter ~> Ward

I actually prefer a couple of the other RBs over Ward as well, but just from a value proposition if no one wants to move up, I feel like you have to take the QB because it’s SF & you’ll be able to flip him for more.

 

[-OZ-]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

I've got him closer to a late 2025 1st. The 2025 draft is chock full of good to great players and I'm not convinced Young's late season improvement was real.

Interesting. Thanks. I’m not nearly as sold on this class as you are. At least not for the long term.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

I've got him closer to a late 2025 1st. The 2025 draft is chock full of good to great players and I'm not convinced Young's late season improvement was real.

Interesting. Thanks. I’m not nearly as sold on this class as you are. At least not for the long term.

I’d have Young below all of those QB’s you mentioned bedore(Purdy, Dak, Penix) and on par with JJM.

Purdy to Young should be a much larger gap(imo) than it really is, but I’ve already expressed on these forums how much I feel Purdy is criminally undervalued haha.

I traded Young essentially straight up for Penix around week 11 or 12 last season because I feel like he has a higher fantasy ceiling, but those two are close. If Tet is legit, it will be huge for Young.

 

[joey]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

I have him in my only SF league as my QB2. I definitely value him much higher than others because he’s my only “real starting QB” behind Lamar, with Carr retiring and Shough as the hopeful replacement.

That said, I would definitely take Penix, Purdy, McCarthy and likely Dak over him. I could see maybe having him in a similar tier to Ward but I’d probably have the “Shiny New 1st Overall Pick” in Ward over the “He’s Been Horrible in the Pros but Finally Showed a Glimpse after Being Benched” in Bryce.

So, yea, late 1st rounder sounds right to me.

Thanks. Now I’m curious - where would you put Ward in the SF rookie draft?

Like a few others here, I think I’d put him at/around 1.3.
If I needed a QB in SF (I did) I’d have grabbed Ward at 1.2 or 1.3 (but I didn’t have an early pick in my league).

I mean, he’s the first overall pick, so he’s “guaranteed“ to start for a few years. In SF, a starting QB with a pulse is worth a late 1st/early 2nd (see Young, Bryce ) so a first overall rookie pick in award is definitely valued at the top 3 rookie pick almost every year I’d imagine.

 

[-OZ-]

so a first overall rookie pick in award is definitely valued at the top 3 rookie pick almost every year I’d imagine.

See, I agree with this but then even people who wouldn’t draft Ward ahead of Bryce in a new dynasty somehow think Bryce is worth a later pick.

Dude was the QB13 in the second half. I understand skepticism but there’s reason to be skeptical about all the rookies too (except maybe jeanty)

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

and on par with JJM.

I think JJM has much higher upside based on his situation & coach. I have Young behind JJM, despite JJM never having taken a snap.

 

[-OZ-]

Purdy to Young should be a much larger gap(imo) than it really is,

while I understand that thought, I disagree. Which makes this fun.

 

[joey]

so a first overall rookie pick in award is definitely valued at the top 3 rookie pick almost every year I’d imagine.

See, I agree with this but then even people who wouldn’t draft Ward ahead of Bryce in a new dynasty somehow think Bryce is worth a later pick.

Dude was the QB13 in the second half. I understand skepticism but there’s reason to be skeptical about all the rookies too (except maybe jeanty)

I think I’d draft Ward over Young in a start up for sure (unknown shiny new thing over known QB with warts). So that’s consistent with my 1.2-1.3 value of Ward and Late 1st value of Young.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

so a first overall rookie pick in award is definitely valued at the top 3 rookie pick almost every year I’d imagine.

See, I agree with this but then even people who wouldn’t draft Ward ahead of Bryce in a new dynasty somehow think Bryce is worth a later pick.

Dude was the QB13 in the second half. I understand skepticism but there’s reason to be skeptical about all the rookies too (except maybe jeanty)

I think I’d draft Ward over Young in a start up for sure (unknown shiny new thing over known QB with warts). So that’s consistent with my 1.2-1.3 value of Ward and Late 1st value of Young.

Ward went 1.07 in our Superflex league this week. Lower than ADP, I'm sure, but some added context. At 1.07, I'd still draft Ward over Young.

 

[-OZ-]

so a first overall rookie pick in award is definitely valued at the top 3 rookie pick almost every year I’d imagine.

See, I agree with this but then even people who wouldn’t draft Ward ahead of Bryce in a new dynasty somehow think Bryce is worth a later pick.

Dude was the QB13 in the second half. I understand skepticism but there’s reason to be skeptical about all the rookies too (except maybe jeanty)

I think I’d draft Ward over Young in a start up for sure (unknown shiny new thing over known QB with warts). So that’s consistent with my 1.2-1.3 value of Ward and Late 1st value of Young.

Ward went 1.07 in our Superflex league this week. Lower than ADP, I'm sure, but some added context. At 1.07, I'd still draft Ward over Young.

Seems super late in SF. But that’s good to know.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

so a first overall rookie pick in award is definitely valued at the top 3 rookie pick almost every year I’d imagine.

See, I agree with this but then even people who wouldn’t draft Ward ahead of Bryce in a new dynasty somehow think Bryce is worth a later pick.

Dude was the QB13 in the second half. I understand skepticism but there’s reason to be skeptical about all the rookies too (except maybe jeanty)

I think I’d draft Ward over Young in a start up for sure (unknown shiny new thing over known QB with warts). So that’s consistent with my 1.2-1.3 value of Ward and Late 1st value of Young.

Ward went 1.07 in our Superflex league this week. Lower than ADP, I'm sure, but some added context. At 1.07, I'd still draft Ward over Young.

I get it - but I’m also surprised that teams 1-6 didn’t just smash Ward for the inherent value of SF QB. Even in a 12-team they’re ridiculously valuable.

Personally I would have drafted Ward even if I needed something else, knowing I could deal him for better than what’s on the board.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Curious what people/shareholders thoughts are on what would have to be added to 1.05 to get 1.01 or (same question) 1.02?

Is there a large difference between Omarion Hampton and Ashton Jeanty?

ETA: 1QB PPR

 

[kutta]

Curious what people/shareholders thoughts are on what would have to be added to 1.05 to get 1.01 or (same question) 1.02?

Is there a large difference between Omarion Hampton and Ashton Jeanty?

ETA: 1QB PPR

I’m personally not completely sold on Jeanty like most folks are. But, he is so hyped that if I had the 1.01 there’s no way I’d move it for anything but a Saquon/Zeke like haul.

I think at an absolute minimum you’d have to add another first and second, and probably more.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Curious what people/shareholders thoughts are on what would have to be added to 1.05 to get 1.01 or (same question) 1.02?

Is there a large difference between Omarion Hampton and Ashton Jeanty?

ETA: 1QB PPR

I’m personally not completely sold on Jeanty like most folks are. But, he is so hyped that if I had the 1.01 there’s no way I’d move it for anything but a Saquon/Zeke like haul.

I think at an absolute minimum you’d have to add another first and second, and probably more.

Do you think 1.05 + 1st rounder (or player equivalent) gets 1.02? Or is 1.02 closer to a straight up value of Breece Hall?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Do you think 1.05 + 1st rounder (or player equivalent) gets 1.02? Or is 1.02 closer to a straight up value of Breece Hall?

Depends heavily on format, IMO.

Just saw your edit. 1 QB, 1.01 is worth a massive haul.

1.02 not nearly as much. I’m not sure 1.02 is worth Hall

IDP, sure. Unicorn potential for Hunter.

 

[kutta]

Curious what people/shareholders thoughts are on what would have to be added to 1.05 to get 1.01 or (same question) 1.02?

Is there a large difference between Omarion Hampton and Ashton Jeanty?

ETA: 1QB PPR

I’m personally not completely sold on Jeanty like most folks are. But, he is so hyped that if I had the 1.01 there’s no way I’d move it for anything but a Saquon/Zeke like haul.

I think at an absolute minimum you’d have to add another first and second, and probably more.

Do you think 1.05 + 1st rounder (or player equivalent) gets 1.02? Or is 1.02 closer to a straight up value of Breece Hall?

To get to 1.02 from 1.05 shouldn’t cost much at all. Maybe a future second? Unless the guy has fallen in love with someone there, there’s a few guys that are all interchangeable.
As HSG said above, I’d keep Hall instead of going after the 1.02.

 

[ghostguy123]

Curious what people/shareholders thoughts are on what would have to be added to 1.05 to get 1.01 or (same question) 1.02?

Is there a large difference between Omarion Hampton and Ashton Jeanty?

ETA: 1QB PPR

I doubt most people with 1.01 would trade it for say 1.03 and 1.05.
So the answer to your question is, a lot. Pick 1.05 gets you maybe 30-40% of the way there.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Do you think 1.05 + 1st rounder (or player equivalent) gets 1.02? Or is 1.02 closer to a straight up value of Breece Hall?

Depends heavily on format, IMO.

Just saw your edit. 1 QB, 1.01 is worth a massive haul.

1.02 not nearly as much. I’m not sure 1.02 is worth Hall

IDP, sure. Unicorn potential for Hunter.

1.02 isn't worth Hall or Hall isn't worth the 1.02? Admittedly, I don't follow the Jets much, but isn't Hall still in a 2-3 headed monster situation at RB? The 1.02, ostensibly Hampton, will be in a rotation, but his path to greatness seems a lot more defined than Hall's.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

The 1.02, ostensibly Hampton, will be in a rotation, but his path to greatness seems a lot more defined than Hall's.

I'd say Najee Harris is a notably bigger hurdle to Hampton than Braelon Allen and Isaiah Davis are to Breece Hall, in the short and longer term.

The 3 headed situation at the Jets has been massively overstated I think. As has Braelon Allen's general contribution last year, he did nothing outside of 1 game.

 

[-OZ-]

The 1.02, ostensibly Hampton, will be in a rotation, but his path to greatness seems a lot more defined than Hall's.

I'd say Najee Harris is a notably bigger hurdle to Hampton than Braelon Allen and Isaiah Davis are to Breece Hall, in the short and longer term.

The 3 headed situation at the Jets has been massively overstated I think. As has Braelon Allen's general contribution last year, he did nothing outside of 1 game.

Breece has arguably become a value pick / trade.
I think the 2 is fair but I’ll keep my breece.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

The 1.02, ostensibly Hampton, will be in a rotation, but his path to greatness seems a lot more defined than Hall's.

I'd say Najee Harris is a notably bigger hurdle to Hampton than Braelon Allen and Isaiah Davis are to Breece Hall, in the short and longer term.

The 3 headed situation at the Jets has been massively overstated I think. As has Braelon Allen's general contribution last year, he did nothing outside of 1 game.

Breece has arguably become a value pick / trade.
I think the 2 is fair but I’ll keep my breece.

Interesting. Just got an offer of Hall + Milton for my TreVeyon + 2026 3rd and I'm balking. Is this a smash accept in your eyes?

 

[-OZ-]

The 1.02, ostensibly Hampton, will be in a rotation, but his path to greatness seems a lot more defined than Hall's.

I'd say Najee Harris is a notably bigger hurdle to Hampton than Braelon Allen and Isaiah Davis are to Breece Hall, in the short and longer term.

The 3 headed situation at the Jets has been massively overstated I think. As has Braelon Allen's general contribution last year, he did nothing outside of 1 game.

Breece has arguably become a value pick / trade.
I think the 2 is fair but I’ll keep my breece.

Interesting. Just got an offer of Hall + Milton for my TreVeyon + 2026 3rd and I'm balking. Is this a smash accept in your eyes?

I’d take it but understand the hesitation.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

I wouldn't say it was a smash accept. Breece Hall wasn't exactly special last year and Justin Fields isn't the ideal QB to help him recover his form.

But we do know that Breece Hall can be fantastic in the NFL. We don't know that about Henderson.

Think I'd probably take Hall.

 

[steelcityman]

While we are on Hall, would any of St Brown, London or McConkey be a fair trade 1 for 1, Hall going to a team with no RBs(and B Allen) and absolutely loaded at WR(has 2 more higher ranked WRs as well), and the WR going to a team kinda thin at WR but loaded at RB make any sense? The two teams finished 1-2 last year. Would you want Hall for one of those 3 WRs?

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Can't imagine you'd get anywhere near Amon-Ra with Hall (dependent on format) but perhaps you could nab one of the other two.

It'd make sense as a starting negotiation in theory based on the contextual info either way.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

While we are on Hall, would any of St Brown, London or McConkey be a fair trade 1 for 1, Hall going to a team with no RBs(and B Allen) and absolutely loaded at WR(has 2 more higher ranked WRs as well), and the WR going to a team kinda thin at WR but loaded at RB make any sense? The two teams finished 1-2 last year. Would you want Hall for one of those 3 WRs?

I think the Breece Hall side has to add for any of those three WRs listed. Significantly for St Brown.

 

[sheerterror]

While we are on Hall, would any of St Brown, London or McConkey be a fair trade 1 for 1, Hall going to a team with no RBs(and B Allen) and absolutely loaded at WR(has 2 more higher ranked WRs as well), and the WR going to a team kinda thin at WR but loaded at RB make any sense? The two teams finished 1-2 last year. Would you want Hall for one of those 3 WRs?

I don't think any ASB owner would trade him 1 for 1 with Hall.

Hall straight up for Ladd and London feels about right if roster needs match up. (I say this as a shareholder of both Breece and Ladd)

 

[steelcityman]

While we are on Hall, would any of St Brown, London or McConkey be a fair trade 1 for 1, Hall going to a team with no RBs(and B Allen) and absolutely loaded at WR(has 2 more higher ranked WRs as well), and the WR going to a team kinda thin at WR but loaded at RB make any sense? The two teams finished 1-2 last year. Would you want Hall for one of those 3 WRs?

I think the Breece Hall side has to add for any of those three WRs listed. Significantly for St Brown.

I could add TE, he only has 1 old TE as of now. I dont think dude has ever made a trade in this league. He just drafts WRs and wins.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

While we are on Hall, would any of St Brown, London or McConkey be a fair trade 1 for 1, Hall going to a team with no RBs(and B Allen) and absolutely loaded at WR(has 2 more higher ranked WRs as well), and the WR going to a team kinda thin at WR but loaded at RB make any sense? The two teams finished 1-2 last year. Would you want Hall for one of those 3 WRs?

I don't think any ASB owner would trade him 1 for 1 with Hall.

Hall straight up for Ladd and London feels about right if roster needs match up. (I say this as a shareholder of both Breece and Ladd)

I am a ARSB and McConkey owner ... not trading either straight up for Hall, but McConkey closer than ARSB

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

While we are on Hall, would any of St Brown, London or McConkey be a fair trade 1 for 1, Hall going to a team with no RBs(and B Allen) and absolutely loaded at WR(has 2 more higher ranked WRs as well), and the WR going to a team kinda thin at WR but loaded at RB make any sense? The two teams finished 1-2 last year. Would you want Hall for one of those 3 WRs?

I don't think any ASB owner would trade him 1 for 1 with Hall.

Hall straight up for Ladd and London feels about right if roster needs match up. (I say this as a shareholder of both Breece and Ladd)

I am a ARSB and McConkey owner ... not trading either straight up for Hall, but McConkey closer than ARSB

I have shares of ARSB, and would not deal him for Breece.

That said, I just prefer to have my most valuable assets at WR.

If I had Breece I’d give him up for any of London, ARSB, or McConkey.

 

[starks]

Holding the 1.05 and want to move up to 1.02 is giving up the 5 along with 2.01 fair or not enough?

 

[menobrown]

Holding the 1.05 and want to move up to 1.02 is giving up the 5 along with 2.01 fair or not enough?

It's a solid offer to make, whether they take it or not nothing to feel like you are insulting anyone over.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Holding the 1.05 and want to move up to 1.02 is giving up the 5 along with 2.01 fair or not enough?

It's a solid offer to make, whether they take it or not nothing to feel like you are insulting anyone over.

Yeah, certainly fair.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Interesting. Just got an offer of Hall + Milton for my TreVeyon + 2026 3rd and I'm balking. Is this a smash accept in your eyes?

I would not trade Hall for TreVeyon and I think my Breece Hall support level is pretty medium. I have Breece Hall and am willing to deal him but the only backs I want in this draft over Breece Hall are Omarion Hampton or Ashton Jeanty. I am not all that interested in a 3rd round pick for a draft that is a year away... I ran that trade through a couple of calculators and it measures out, but I just lean toward the proven commodity that is just a year and a half older.

While we are on Hall, would any of St Brown, London or McConkey be a fair trade 1 for 1, Hall going to a team with no RBs(and B Allen) and absolutely loaded at WR(has 2 more higher ranked WRs as well), and the WR going to a team kinda thin at WR but loaded at RB make any sense? The two teams finished 1-2 last year. Would you want Hall for one of those 3 WRs?

As a Hall owner - if someone offered Amon-Ra St. Brown for Breece Hall... I don't think I could accept that trade fast enough.

You will probably have to add a little more to get Drake London, but if you are set on London - I would offer a straight-up trade and see if he takes it or counters with a pick.


I would almost always rather have a young stud WR than a stud RB because you have more flexibility with WR's due to the longevity of the position. I think this is a trade you are better off exploring during the season because we are in the middle of "rookie fever" in a "loaded RB class" and everyone thinks they just drafted an RB better than Breece Hall. Any of the receivers you are trying to trade for have a rising trajectory and Breece Hall has a lot of question marks. If he trots out there in Week 1 and rips off a couple runs (like he did in 2023) you probably don't have to include anything for Drake London but as the season stands, I would want more for any of the receivers you named in this order - ARSB, Drake London, Ladd McConkey

 

[FarFromHome]

This Breece Hall talk has me wanting to put out feelers to owner. Dudes 23 years old and an elite NFL rb in his prime.

Out of all the players recently mentioned, Amon Is the only guy mentioned I wouldn't move for him personally .

 

[mjb03003]

I have Breece, JTaylor, and Bucky as my top 3 RBs in a team and they all feel a little undervalued/disrespected right now. I am tempted to tier down on one of the three to shore up other needs but right now just doesn’t feel like the time to get fair value on any of them.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I am more bearish on Hall than most on this forum. Not particularly difficult because this forum for whatever reason is way higher on Hall than the consensus. Maybe that creates a market inefficiency and a buying opportunity if this forum is right on him.

I moved him for 1.05 when it was OTB to draft Treyveon. I would take Hampton over Hall by a whole lot.

I understand there is more risk there but I think the risk with Hall is underrated. He has been worse than expected as a runner (is it the Jet's fault? Maybe) and I worry his receiving numbers will fall off as that is often a product of opportunity and desperation of the team rather than something that was really schemed for particular to Hall's skillset (though he is a very good receiver).

My concern is he catches 30-40 balls this year, and mixed with his modest rushing numbers, enters 2026 in his age 25 season (and since he entered the league very young, he will feel much older than that to most people) coming off a bit of a plodder season, at which point his value would completely crater.

A classic I'd rather be a year too early than a year too late scenario. I think if you hold Hall this year you are pretty much signing up to hold him in perpetuity. Even if he has a good year his value won't increase much. This time next year he'll be almost the same age as Kyren Williams or James Cook are now and look at where their values are now, even both coming off seasons that Breece Hall would be lucky to match this year.

So the upside is he has a really good year and maybe this time next year he's worth about as much as Kyren Williams or James Cook are now (meh). And a base/bad case is he has a mediocre or bad year at which point, look out below.

 

[menobrown]

I have Breece, JTaylor, and Bucky as my top 3 RBs in a team and they all feel a little undervalued/disrespected right now. I am tempted to tier down on one of the three to shore up other needs but right now just doesn’t feel like the time to get fair value on any of them.

Just saw FFPC dynasty ADP since the draft and those Rb's are actually touching each other and going on average as RB 7, 8 and 9.I'm kind of surprised by that as it's not far off redraft and I'd think Taylor's age and workload would be bigger negatives in dynasty.

I've not really noticed to much negativity on Taylor or Bucky tbh but the way I like to run my dynasty teams I'd be looking to exit on Taylor for the reasons I mentioned above.

This trade actually went down just last night in a one QB start FFPC league of mine involving Taylor, thought it was a steal for Nabers even if Penix was not part of the deal:

Taylor, DJ Moore and a 2026 second round pick for Nabers and Penix

The Breece part of this convo is interesting to me because just last night I was in a league of mine I'm super deep at RB and have Hall/Allen and would like to package them for a free open roster spot and a young stud WR. But that's where I ran into the same thought process you had,felt like it was not an ideal time to sell him. People will just think I'm panicking.

 

[-OZ-]

Hall straight up for Ladd and London feels about right if roster needs match up. (I say this as a shareholder of both Breece and Ladd)

I’d happily trade hall for either London or Ladd, but I wouldn’t add too much. Maybe a 2nd rounder. For Sun God. I’d expect to add a late first.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

felt like it was not an ideal time to sell him. People will just think I'm panicking.

Would you move him for Saquan?

I was in that position last week and moved Hall+LB2 for Saquan. Got 4 years older in the process.

Curious if you’d make that same move for a win-now roster.

 

[menobrown]

felt like it was not an ideal time to sell him. People will just think I'm panicking.

Would you move him for Saquan?

I was in that position last week and moved Hall+LB2 for Saquan. Got 4 years older in the process.

Curious if you’d make that same move for a win-now roster.

My Breece Hall teams are both positioned as contenders but no, I'd rather keep Breece, but I'd not feel bad about making the move.

Barkely's workload last year scares me in the same way McCaffrey's did the previous season and in general despite some really strong success by some older RB's the last few years I still believe the odds favor trying to exit out for younger at that position, creating a larger window and trying to repeat/extend the process. So this is just how I prefer to manage my teams, I may be totally wrong and others owners less age averse would probably like that deal for you a lot.

 

[Blick]

felt like it was not an ideal time to sell him. People will just think I'm panicking.

Would you move him for Saquan?

I was in that position last week and moved Hall+LB2 for Saquan. Got 4 years older in the process.

Curious if you’d make that same move for a win-now roster.

My Breece Hall teams are both positioned as contenders but no, I'd rather keep Breece, but I'd not feel bad about making the move.

Barkely's workload last year scares me in the same way McCaffrey's did the previous season and in general despite some really strong success by some older RB's the last few years I still believe the odds favor trying to exit out for younger at that position, creating a larger window and trying to repeat/extend the process. So this is just how I prefer to manage my teams, I may be totally wrong and others owners less age averse would probably like that deal for you a lot.

Saquon was soooo good though. I'm willing to assume that I'm going to get two more partial seasons (miss only a handful of games) at near (say 75%) his production from last year, so I'll keep Saquon. I think I'd need something pretty significant on top.

 

[menobrown]

felt like it was not an ideal time to sell him. People will just think I'm panicking.

Would you move him for Saquan?

I was in that position last week and moved Hall+LB2 for Saquan. Got 4 years older in the process.

Curious if you’d make that same move for a win-now roster.

My Breece Hall teams are both positioned as contenders but no, I'd rather keep Breece, but I'd not feel bad about making the move.

Barkely's workload last year scares me in the same way McCaffrey's did the previous season and in general despite some really strong success by some older RB's the last few years I still believe the odds favor trying to exit out for younger at that position, creating a larger window and trying to repeat/extend the process. So this is just how I prefer to manage my teams, I may be totally wrong and others owners less age averse would probably like that deal for you a lot.

Saquon was soooo good though. I'm willing to assume that I'm going to get two more partial seasons (miss only a handful of games) at near (say 75%) his production from last year, so I'll keep Saquon. I think I'd need something pretty significant on top.

He was of course incredible, from start to finish one of the all time great real life NFL RB seasons.

But I can't discount a 28 year old RB coming off a 20 game season where he amassed 436 carries and 482 touches. For comp sake the closest thing he's had before was 2022 where he played 18 games and handled 377 touches. He just took on 123 more carries, 2 more games, and 105 more total touches then his career high. That's concerning to me to point I can't assume I get two more seasons of that kind of stuff with only a few missed games. Again I'll cite CMC who was coming off a the most games played in his career and by at least a 100 IIRC more touches. I want to add I was not voicing these concerns for CMC after the fact either.

Again may be all ok but this is a tremendous workload for even a super young RB to make me not feel uneasy heading into the next season. I just have a lot more concerns then you and probably most people have, feel like your opinion is more in line with the consensus.

 

[Blick]

felt like it was not an ideal time to sell him. People will just think I'm panicking.

Would you move him for Saquan?

I was in that position last week and moved Hall+LB2 for Saquan. Got 4 years older in the process.

Curious if you’d make that same move for a win-now roster.

My Breece Hall teams are both positioned as contenders but no, I'd rather keep Breece, but I'd not feel bad about making the move.

Barkely's workload last year scares me in the same way McCaffrey's did the previous season and in general despite some really strong success by some older RB's the last few years I still believe the odds favor trying to exit out for younger at that position, creating a larger window and trying to repeat/extend the process. So this is just how I prefer to manage my teams, I may be totally wrong and others owners less age averse would probably like that deal for you a lot.

Saquon was soooo good though. I'm willing to assume that I'm going to get two more partial seasons (miss only a handful of games) at near (say 75%) his production from last year, so I'll keep Saquon. I think I'd need something pretty significant on top.

He was of course incredible, from start to finish one of the all time great real life NFL RB seasons.

But I can't discount a 28 year old RB coming off a 20 game season where he amassed 436 carries and 482 touches. For comp sake the closest thing he's had before was 2022 where he played 18 games and handled 377 touches. He just took on 123 more carries, 2 more games, and 105 more total touches then his career high. That's concerning to me to point I can't assume I get two more seasons of that kind of stuff with only a few missed games. Again I'll cite CMC who was coming off a the most games played in his career and by at least a 100 IIRC more touches. I want to add I was not voicing these concerns for CMC after the fact either.

Again may be all ok but this is a tremendous workload for even a super young RB to make me not feel uneasy heading into the next season. I just have a lot more concerns then you and probably most people have, feel like your opinion is more in line with the consensus.

Understood and point taken. My thoughts are there have been basically no changes for Phi while NYJ got a run first QB that won't check down much. I'll take my chances on Saquon's health as he'll win me a handful of games on his own as opposed to Hall's performance with limited receptions.