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Is that a sign you're out on CMC or just don't think a 1st is enough?
I wasn’t thinking of CMC at all, actually.

In theory he’s the ultimate “F them picks” win now trade piece.

But I just heard Brian Baldinger on 95.7 this morning talking about CMC and comparing his decline to Dalvin Cook. And I was already cool on CMC from a redraft perspective where all he costs me is a current late 1st, rather than a future pick. Gave me even more pause, but he’s just one dude with an opinion like anyone. Still, he knows ball, and he made some good points about CMC’s career workload.

So yeah - CMC is either a league-winner or you just lit a 1st round pick on fire. Flip a coin? I’m sure I’m on an island here and most will say to pay a 1st for CMC. The upside is probably worth it.
 
Might be able to get Henry for that. He went for 2 2nds in one of my FFPC leagues.
Could probably get Montgomery,Chubba, Robinson (Wash),Tracy or Pachecho.
Gave a mid/late 26 second for Monty during our rookie draft. Not sure I'd give a 1st (late or otherwise) for him at this point.
Gibbs owner in my league is a bit “special” … wouldn’t give a late 2nd during our rookie draft (for Montgomery) - but continued to tell me he’d give me a 1st if Gibbs were to get hurt in season this year.
 
In theory he’s the ultimate “F them picks” win now trade piece.
Took that very approach this week trading this year's 1.06 and 1.10 and next year's 2nd-rounder (hopefully late) for Jahmyr Gibbs.

Gibbs is on the last year of his 3-year rookie deal, and I have no idea if we can afford to pay him next or not, but this year we're rolling out a squad led by Burrow, Gibbs, Chase Brown, Ja'Marr Chase, and Bowers.
 
For teams looking to press on the pedal into win this year mode or conversely, teams ready to tear their team down: What RBs would you consider worth a likely late 1st round pick?
Jacobs would be my number 1 target. His production should easily justify the 1st, and you should get 2-3 years out of him. Focal point of the offense, a coach that will run him 4x at the stripe, and not a zero in the passing game.

Number 2 for me would be Chuba. He could probably be had for around a 1st. Uncontested RB1 on his team, a bit underrated.

If the teams with those guys aren’t competing I’d be offering them future 1sts for them easily.
I tried to get Jacobs for a 1st, but declined. I can't move Henry to save my life. I'm not going to fire sale him as what I have done with my roster makes it a contender now IMO, but I want to move off him while I can.

I tried to get Chuba, but his owner only wanted Pickens AND my 2nd. Hard pass. I moved Pickens for McBride and how he says he will hold Chuba LOL
 
I own Henry and will just ride him out if all I get is a 2nd
Yeah he should easily command a 1st.
Would not trade for less.

I just did a 10 team dynasty draft, Henry was taken 5.3. Right between T Henderson and Judkins.

So yeah, he’s being valued as a 1st at least in some places. Although the team that took him also took CMC, Tyreek and a few other older players.
 
I'm in trade negotiations with the Chase and Jefferson owner. I offered him a deal for Chase, and he countered with a slightly lesser compensation for Jefferson.

I guess I'm just trying to get clarification/confirmation that Jefferson is still viewed as a star dynasty asset. I am no JJ McCarthy believer, so that's my biggest hesitation.
 
I'm in trade negotiations with the Chase and Jefferson owner. I offered him a deal for Chase, and he countered with a slightly lesser compensation for Jefferson.

I guess I'm just trying to get clarification/confirmation that Jefferson is still viewed as a star dynasty asset. I am no JJ McCarthy believer, so that's my biggest hesitation.
If you look at every QB who has thrown to JJ during his career, he's proven to be bulletproof. His numbers have stayed elite regardless of the QB throwing him the ball. Yes, JJ is still elite.
 
I'm in trade negotiations with the Chase and Jefferson owner. I offered him a deal for Chase, and he countered with a slightly lesser compensation for Jefferson.

I guess I'm just trying to get clarification/confirmation that Jefferson is still viewed as a star dynasty asset. I am no JJ McCarthy believer, so that's my biggest hesitation.
Chase is so far ahead of everyone else that it makes you question Jefferson. JJ is still elite, but Chase is in his own tier as far as potential FF production.
 
I have a roster cut down on Wednesday ahead of a Sunday rookie draft and need to cut 2 of these players.
J Ford
Jataveon Sanders
Ben Sinnott
Have no pick in 1st or 5th and current TE starter is Schultz. Could also cut Richardson but would like to give him one more chance.
 
I have a roster cut down on Wednesday ahead of a Sunday rookie draft and need to cut 2 of these players.
J Ford
Jataveon Sanders
Ben Sinnott
Have no pick in 1st or 5th and current TE starter is Schultz. Could also cut Richardson but would like to give him one more chance.

Would help to know if it is TE Prem
 
I'm in trade negotiations with the Chase and Jefferson owner. I offered him a deal for Chase, and he countered with a slightly lesser compensation for Jefferson.

I guess I'm just trying to get clarification/confirmation that Jefferson is still viewed as a star dynasty asset. I am no JJ McCarthy believer, so that's my biggest hesitation.
Chase is so far ahead of everyone else that it makes you question Jefferson. JJ is still elite, but Chase is in his own tier as far as potential FF production.

I just do not agree with this. Chase just had his career-best year. JJ and JJ are just heating up. I’ve still got them in a dead heat
 
I'm in trade negotiations with the Chase and Jefferson owner. I offered him a deal for Chase, and he countered with a slightly lesser compensation for Jefferson.

I guess I'm just trying to get clarification/confirmation that Jefferson is still viewed as a star dynasty asset. I am no JJ McCarthy believer, so that's my biggest hesitation.
Chase is so far ahead of everyone else that it makes you question Jefferson. JJ is still elite, but Chase is in his own tier as far as potential FF production.

I just do not agree with this. Chase just had his career-best year. JJ and JJ are just heating up. I’ve still got them in a dead heat
Fine to disagree and I understand that thought process. I think if Burrow/Chase stay healthy, Chase will give last year’s numbers a run again. I think MIN will be more run-oriented this year and with their defense I do not see the necessity to feed JJ enough to come close to that upside. That is all assuming McCarthy is up to the task to begin with.
 
I'm in trade negotiations with the Chase and Jefferson owner. I offered him a deal for Chase, and he countered with a slightly lesser compensation for Jefferson.

I guess I'm just trying to get clarification/confirmation that Jefferson is still viewed as a star dynasty asset. I am no JJ McCarthy believer, so that's my biggest hesitation.
Chase is so far ahead of everyone else that it makes you question Jefferson. JJ is still elite, but Chase is in his own tier as far as potential FF production.

I just do not agree with this. Chase just had his career-best year. JJ and JJ are just heating up. I’ve still got them in a dead heat
Fine to disagree and I understand that thought process. I think if Burrow/Chase stay healthy, Chase will give last year’s numbers a run again. I think MIN will be more run-oriented this year and with their defense I do not see the necessity to feed JJ enough to come close to that upside. That is all assuming McCarthy is up to the task to begin with.
I’m kinda with @rockaction on this one.

At the moment Chase’s value coming off that insane season is sky high.

But any of Chase, JJ, or (and especially) Lamb could be the WR1 this year.

As for the bolded, with KOC I just don’t see that happening. I mean, they’ll be a little more run balanced because than can’t be much less, but I don’t think that’s gonna hurt JJ’s numbers much if at all. Probably even helps.

On another note I saw recent a clip of JJM and dude got huge. Looks like a completely different dude out there than the skinny kid from last year.
 
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I'm in trade negotiations with the Chase and Jefferson owner. I offered him a deal for Chase, and he countered with a slightly lesser compensation for Jefferson.

I guess I'm just trying to get clarification/confirmation that Jefferson is still viewed as a star dynasty asset. I am no JJ McCarthy believer, so that's my biggest hesitation.
Chase is so far ahead of everyone else that it makes you question Jefferson. JJ is still elite, but Chase is in his own tier as far as potential FF production.

I just do not agree with this. Chase just had his career-best year. JJ and JJ are just heating up. I’ve still got them in a dead heat
Agreed and 12 months ago, it was Lamb coming off the great season and he was so far ahead of everyone else.
 
I will admit that even though I roster Chase in my main league that I’ve honestly probably preferred Jefferson but that is no longer the case. And I think Harmon and Waldman think Chase can get even better, so I say that all without a totally dogmatic assurance
 
I have a roster cut down on Wednesday ahead of a Sunday rookie draft and need to cut 2 of these players.
J Ford
Jataveon Sanders
Ben Sinnott
Have no pick in 1st or 5th and current TE starter is Schultz. Could also cut Richardson but would like to give him one more chance.

Would help to know if it is TE Prem
It is not and only .25 por for all
QB,RB, WR,WR,WR,TE,Flex,K,D
 
I have a roster cut down on Wednesday ahead of a Sunday rookie draft and need to cut 2 of these players.
J Ford
Jataveon Sanders
Ben Sinnott
Have no pick in 1st or 5th and current TE starter is Schultz. Could also cut Richardson but would like to give him one more chance.

Would help to know if it is TE Prem
It is not and only .25 por for all
QB,RB, WR,WR,WR,TE,Flex,K,D

Oh. Ew. That’s still tough. Gotta figure Cleveland thinks Ford is expendable given they drafted RB in the 2nd and 4th. That is a statement. But what becomes of our Judkins?

If I’m a contender and thin at RB I might axe Sinnott. If I’m building, goodbye Jerome. If I’m between the two, then I salt to taste.

Oh you need two cut? Keep Sanders like Ramblin said ,
 
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I'm in trade negotiations with the Chase and Jefferson owner. I offered him a deal for Chase, and he countered with a slightly lesser compensation for Jefferson.

I guess I'm just trying to get clarification/confirmation that Jefferson is still viewed as a star dynasty asset. I am no JJ McCarthy believer, so that's my biggest hesitation.
Chase is so far ahead of everyone else that it makes you question Jefferson. JJ is still elite, but Chase is in his own tier as far as potential FF production.

I just do not agree with this. Chase just had his career-best year. JJ and JJ are just heating up. I’ve still got them in a dead heat
Fine to disagree and I understand that thought process. I think if Burrow/Chase stay healthy, Chase will give last year’s numbers a run again. I think MIN will be more run-oriented this year and with their defense I do not see the necessity to feed JJ enough to come close to that upside. That is all assuming McCarthy is up to the task to begin with.
I’m kinda with @rockaction on this one.

At the moment Chase’s value coming off that insane season is sky high.

But any of Chase, JJ, or (and especially) Lamb could be the WR1 this year.

As for the bolded, with KOC I just don’t see that happening. I mean, they’ll be a little more run balanced because than can’t be much less, but I don’t think that’s gonna hurt JJ’s numbers much if at all. Probably even helps.

On another note I saw recent a clip of JJM and did got huge. Looks like a completely different dude out there than the skinny kid from last year.
What would you need on top of Lamb to get to Chase. Would a vet WR like McLaurin do it?
 
I'm in trade negotiations with the Chase and Jefferson owner. I offered him a deal for Chase, and he countered with a slightly lesser compensation for Jefferson.

I guess I'm just trying to get clarification/confirmation that Jefferson is still viewed as a star dynasty asset. I am no JJ McCarthy believer, so that's my biggest hesitation.
Chase is so far ahead of everyone else that it makes you question Jefferson. JJ is still elite, but Chase is in his own tier as far as potential FF production.

I just do not agree with this. Chase just had his career-best year. JJ and JJ are just heating up. I’ve still got them in a dead heat
Fine to disagree and I understand that thought process. I think if Burrow/Chase stay healthy, Chase will give last year’s numbers a run again. I think MIN will be more run-oriented this year and with their defense I do not see the necessity to feed JJ enough to come close to that upside. That is all assuming McCarthy is up to the task to begin with.
I’m kinda with @rockaction on this one.

At the moment Chase’s value coming off that insane season is sky high.

But any of Chase, JJ, or (and especially) Lamb could be the WR1 this year.

As for the bolded, with KOC I just don’t see that happening. I mean, they’ll be a little more run balanced because than can’t be much less, but I don’t think that’s gonna hurt JJ’s numbers much if at all. Probably even helps.

On another note I saw recent a clip of JJM and did got huge. Looks like a completely different dude out there than the skinny kid from last year.
What would you need on top of Lamb to get to Chase. Would a vet WR like McLaurin do it?
If McLaurin weren’t holding out and instead showing that he’s continuing to be a go to guy for his young star QB, I think Lamb+Mcalaurin isn’t a bad conversation starter.
 
I'm in trade negotiations with the Chase and Jefferson owner. I offered him a deal for Chase, and he countered with a slightly lesser compensation for Jefferson.

I guess I'm just trying to get clarification/confirmation that Jefferson is still viewed as a star dynasty asset. I am no JJ McCarthy believer, so that's my biggest hesitation.
Chase is so far ahead of everyone else that it makes you question Jefferson. JJ is still elite, but Chase is in his own tier as far as potential FF production.

I just do not agree with this. Chase just had his career-best year. JJ and JJ are just heating up. I’ve still got them in a dead heat
Fine to disagree and I understand that thought process. I think if Burrow/Chase stay healthy, Chase will give last year’s numbers a run again. I think MIN will be more run-oriented this year and with their defense I do not see the necessity to feed JJ enough to come close to that upside. That is all assuming McCarthy is up to the task to begin with.
I’m kinda with @rockaction on this one.

At the moment Chase’s value coming off that insane season is sky high.

But any of Chase, JJ, or (and especially) Lamb could be the WR1 this year.

As for the bolded, with KOC I just don’t see that happening. I mean, they’ll be a little more run balanced because than can’t be much less, but I don’t think that’s gonna hurt JJ’s numbers much if at all. Probably even helps.

On another note I saw recent a clip of JJM and did got huge. Looks like a completely different dude out there than the skinny kid from last year.
What would you need on top of Lamb to get to Chase. Would a vet WR like McLaurin do it?
If McLaurin weren’t holding out and instead showing that he’s continuing to be a go to guy for his young star QB, I think Lamb+Mcalaurin isn’t a bad conversation starter.
Yeah, I wouldn’t accept that for Chase, but it would get the convo going - it’s. It’s not an insult. I just wouldn’t want to get someone that old.

Also in the league I have Lamb, I’m not sure I’d want to pay to upgrade to Chase. There’s a non-zero chance that Lamb is better this year.

If I were offered Lamb + a 1st for Chase in the league I have a share I would have to seriously consider it. I’m not sure I’d pay Lamb + a 1st though.
 
I'm in trade negotiations with the Chase and Jefferson owner. I offered him a deal for Chase, and he countered with a slightly lesser compensation for Jefferson.

I guess I'm just trying to get clarification/confirmation that Jefferson is still viewed as a star dynasty asset. I am no JJ McCarthy believer, so that's my biggest hesitation.
Chase is so far ahead of everyone else that it makes you question Jefferson. JJ is still elite, but Chase is in his own tier as far as potential FF production.

I just do not agree with this. Chase just had his career-best year. JJ and JJ are just heating up. I’ve still got them in a dead heat
Fine to disagree and I understand that thought process. I think if Burrow/Chase stay healthy, Chase will give last year’s numbers a run again. I think MIN will be more run-oriented this year and with their defense I do not see the necessity to feed JJ enough to come close to that upside. That is all assuming McCarthy is up to the task to begin with.
I’m kinda with @rockaction on this one.

At the moment Chase’s value coming off that insane season is sky high.

But any of Chase, JJ, or (and especially) Lamb could be the WR1 this year.

As for the bolded, with KOC I just don’t see that happening. I mean, they’ll be a little more run balanced because than can’t be much less, but I don’t think that’s gonna hurt JJ’s numbers much if at all. Probably even helps.

On another note I saw recent a clip of JJM and did got huge. Looks like a completely different dude out there than the skinny kid from last year.
What would you need on top of Lamb to get to Chase. Would a vet WR like McLaurin do it?
If McLaurin weren’t holding out and instead showing that he’s continuing to be a go to guy for his young star QB, I think Lamb+Mcalaurin isn’t a bad conversation starter.
Yeah, I wouldn’t accept that for Chase, but it would get the convo going - it’s. It’s not an insult. I just wouldn’t want to get someone that old.

Also in the league I have Lamb, I’m not sure I’d want to pay to upgrade to Chase. There’s a non-zero chance that Lamb is better this year.

If I were offered Lamb + a 1st for Chase in the league I have a share I would have to seriously consider it. I’m not sure I’d pay Lamb + a 1st though.
Agreed on everything, which I think means it’s in the neighborhood of fair enough.
 
What's people's opinion of Marshawn Lloyd? Would you be willing to attach him (2 years at $1) to Joe Mixon in order to dump Mixon's $40 salary ($260 cap)?

I know what I think, but I'm trying to get opinion(s) from someone who's not a Packers homer...
 
What's people's opinion of Marshawn Lloyd? Would you be willing to attach him (2 years at $1) to Joe Mixon in order to dump Mixon's $40 salary ($260 cap)?

I know what I think, but I'm trying to get opinion(s) from someone who's not a Packers homer...
He can’t stay healthy, and IIRC has ball control issues. I’m not quite ready to use the “B” word, but it’s getting to that point.

2 other backs on the roster who would probably all be used if something were to happen to Jacobs. 3, if we include Izzy.

I just don’t seem as having a ton of value. If you can dump him in a deal to dump Mixon, I’d do it.
 
Tyreek is the guy I’m struggling with. I expect this season to either be one final league winning year or a total disaster, but not much in between.

Could probably package him with someone like Pearsall to get Odunze. But I do have a contending team and like the idea of one final big Tyreek season.
 
Tyreek is the guy I’m struggling with. I expect this season to either be one final league winning year or a total disaster, but not much in between.

Could probably package him with someone like Pearsall to get Odunze. But I do have a contending team and like the idea of one final big Tyreek season.
I'd keep Tyreek for now if that is the only option. However, if you can move him & not give up a ton with him to stay competitive & get younger, I'd do it
 
Price check on Ken Walker?

Interested in buying. Current owner is in a rebuild, I’d send a ‘26 1st for sure, but I don’t feel that’s enough. Am I overvaluing him? If the 1st isn’t enough, what tier of player should be added?
 
What are Dak and Stroud's dynasty value these days? Should I try to move off one or both of them?
Both in the crapper. After the first 5-7 they are all kind of the same. I do think they are both undervalued though. Don’t expect much (comparatively) in return.

Ha. I roster BOTH in my 12 team, 1QB league (just bought Dak for a 3rd last week).

I love the combo as a Hold. Dak is Win Now (assuming he airs it out like many expect this year) and that gives me time to see if Stroud can return to the promise of his rookie year, or if it’s time for me to make other plans for a young QB.
 
What are Dak and Stroud's dynasty value these days? Should I try to move off one or both of them?
Both in the crapper. After the first 5-7 they are all kind of the same. I do think they are both undervalued though. Don’t expect much (comparatively) in return.

Ha. I roster BOTH in my 12 team, 1QB league (just bought Dak for a 3rd last week).

I love the combo as a Hold. Dak is Win Now (assuming he airs it out like many expect this year) and that gives me time to see if Stroud can return to the promise of his rookie year, or if it’s time for me to make other plans for a young QB.
I agree. I love them both. How can Lamb and Nico be top 5 WRs without their QBs being at least adequate?
 
Price check on Ken Walker?

Interested in buying. Current owner is in a rebuild, I’d send a ‘26 1st for sure, but I don’t feel that’s enough. Am I overvaluing him? If the 1st isn’t enough, what tier of player should be added?
I tried a 1st and was turned down FWIW
I can't find anyone that is willing to move a RB at a reasonable cost. I think the play is to wait until week 4-5 when the pretenders start to fall out.
 
Price check on Ken Walker?

Interested in buying. Current owner is in a rebuild, I’d send a ‘26 1st for sure, but I don’t feel that’s enough. Am I overvaluing him? If the 1st isn’t enough, what tier of player should be added?
I tried a 1st and was turned down FWIW
I can't find anyone that is willing to move a RB at a reasonable cost. I think the play is to wait until week 4-5 when the pretenders start to fall out.
Mid 1st is about right, I suspect, but to come off a young RB requires a premium. In the leagues I have him, I would reject a 26 1st off the bat. In Superflex I'd be looking for a young QB with both questions and promise like a Bryce Young. Non SF, I'd need a promising young WR like Rome. Probably one of those positions where I (like most owners of promising young RBs) overvalue them.
 
Price check on Ken Walker?

Interested in buying. Current owner is in a rebuild, I’d send a ‘26 1st for sure, but I don’t feel that’s enough. Am I overvaluing him? If the 1st isn’t enough, what tier of player should be added?
I tried a 1st and was turned down FWIW
Yeah, with my "competitive" team, I would not move KW for a 1st.
What I find weird is his "Calculator Trade Value" is depressed (below CMC & J Cook) but his ADP is Top 15.

I would need a young talent (like Jayden Higgens or Luther Burden) and a 1st round pick. Other than QB in 2026, the Draft pool looks weaker then past few years.
 
Price check on Ken Walker?

Interested in buying. Current owner is in a rebuild, I’d send a ‘26 1st for sure, but I don’t feel that’s enough. Am I overvaluing him? If the 1st isn’t enough, what tier of player should be added?
I tried a 1st and was turned down FWIW
Yeah, with my "competitive" team, I would not move KW for a 1st.
What I find weird is his "Calculator Trade Value" is depressed (below CMC & J Cook) but his ADP is Top 15.

I would need a young talent (like Jayden Higgens or Luther Burden) and a 1st round pick. Other than QB in 2026, the Draft pool looks weaker then past few years.
I ended up moving my 2026 1st for Drake London. The whole deal was my Tre Harris, 2026 1st & Olave for his London & Bigsby (I was RB startved and deep at WR). Start 2 WR & 1 flex so my starting WRs & Flex are now Lamb, McConkey & London. Who knows, maybe I can turn London into something even better down the road.

I prefer proven players vs draft picks where possible
 
Price check on Ken Walker?

Interested in buying. Current owner is in a rebuild, I’d send a ‘26 1st for sure, but I don’t feel that’s enough. Am I overvaluing him? If the 1st isn’t enough, what tier of player should be added?
I tried a 1st and was turned down FWIW
Yeah, with my "competitive" team, I would not move KW for a 1st.
What I find weird is his "Calculator Trade Value" is depressed (below CMC & J Cook) but his ADP is Top 15.

I would need a young talent (like Jayden Higgens or Luther Burden) and a 1st round pick. Other than QB in 2026, the Draft pool looks weaker then past few years.
I ended up moving my 2026 1st for Drake London. The whole deal was my Tre Harris, 2026 1st & Olave for his London & Bigsby (I was RB startved and deep at WR). Start 2 WR & 1 flex so my starting WRs & Flex are now Lamb, McConkey & London. Who knows, maybe I can turn London into something even better down the road.

I prefer proven players vs draft picks where possible
Great trade.
 
Just finished my Dynasty rookie draft. 1QB, No TE, Full PPR

Ashton Jeanty
Omarion Hampton
TreVeyon Henderson
Tetairoa McMillan
RJ Hardy
Emeka Egbuka
Travis Hunter
Quinshon Judkins
Luther Burder III
Matthew Golden
Kaleb Johnson
Can Skattebo
Tyler Warren
Jayden Higgins
Cameron Ward
Tre Harris
Bhayshul Judkins
Jaydon Blue
Jacory Croskey-Merritt
Jaxon Dart
Ollie Gordon II
Jarquez Hunter
Kyle Williams
Jack Bech
 
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