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What is your take on Isaiah Bond? He was supposedly a 2nd rd talent who went undrafted because of personal "issues". Last I heard he was playing in the Browns last preseason game, but info has been hard to come by.
 
Unless your league does not have IR spots I do in fact think he's a must hold.
As I said above......situation matters. If you can keep him without preventing you from doing other moves then by all means keep him.
For my situation, it's hold Brooks for 3 years at $14 against a $200 cap or cut him and have $10 to spend on a new guy (that I can sign for up to 4 years). I have $75 left to spend if I keep Brooks and $85 if I don't. With Brooks, I need to add 11 guys with $75. Without it's 12 guys for $85. This is also the year the first group of 4 year contracts are now expired and are available. It's looking like a pretty stocked talent pool, so there should be some good players going cheaper than usual.
If that additional $10 will get you a key player for this year then it's probably worth it to drop Brooks. It is all dependent upon how valuable that $10 is for you.
 
What is your take on Isaiah Bond? He was supposedly a 2nd rd talent who went undrafted because of personal "issues". Last I heard he was playing in the Browns last preseason game, but info has been hard to come by.
Seems like the best depth chart he could have landed in. If he has his head on straight and can play he should be a contributor fairly early with room to grow.
 
Unless your league does not have IR spots I do in fact think he's a must hold.
As I said above......situation matters. If you can keep him without preventing you from doing other moves then by all means keep him.
For my situation, it's hold Brooks for 3 years at $14 against a $200 cap or cut him and have $10 to spend on a new guy (that I can sign for up to 4 years). I have $75 left to spend if I keep Brooks and $85 if I don't. With Brooks, I need to add 11 guys with $75. Without it's 12 guys for $85. This is also the year the first group of 4 year contracts are now expired and are available. It's looking like a pretty stocked talent pool, so there should be some good players going cheaper than usual.
If that additional $10 will get you a key player for this year then it's probably worth it to drop Brooks. It is all dependent upon how valuable that $10 is for you.
I agree, that's an option in that league, I think or thought I had mentioned I can't wrap my head around the salary implications of those leagues and we just got our signals crossed on relevance of doing that in a non-salary cap league.
 
Another manager really wants TeSlaa ... offered me Donte Thornton
I’d hold on TeSlaa

Jamo is a FA next year. Never know.

Regardless TeSlaa has showed out so well they are going to use him.
I am the opposite. Thornton is getting a shot and succeeding and will be on the field a lot this year. Give me Thornton.
totally fair. As I said above, I think it’s close enough to be personal preference.
I got a Teslaa related question.

First of all I'm a longtime Razorback and totally whiffed on this guy. Never saw it. Was actually around several other Razorback fans when they picked him and we were all shocked. But kudos to Brad Holmes for seeing it because this dude has size, speed, body control and a strong hands catcher. But he's blocked IMO. Might give you a best ball week here or there but otherwise needs Jamo or ASRB to go down to be a lineup guy this year and eventually need one to leave.

So I was offered Teslaa for a 2026 third this morning and I've been chewing on it. My team is very thin at WR, honestly no viable WR3 as of today, but it's still a contender and while it does need WR's for the future it also needs WR depth for today and I don't really see him helping the today part. I like the overall value on the trade, just adding talent for a third is usually good business but it's smaller roster FFPC and I'm up against it on roster space now to say nothing of off-seeason cuts, but it's the now part I'm dealing with.

Right now I got Roman Wilson tagged as my least valuable keeper and I might cut him in the first waiver run. My second least valuable keeper is Ollie Gordon and I might be able to trade him straight up for Teslaa, I know they have interest in him. I also have Kyle Williams who I also can't count on right now but where I see him differently then Teslaa is he does have a path to role but I think I can trade him for a very late projected 2026 second.

So here are my options, keeping in mind I badly need a WR3 now, future WR help, and untill/unless I can trade from my TE or RB surplus I got no roster room.

1. Decline the trade, keep Roman Wilson for now with option to cut him to pick up viable FA WR after cuts are made.

2. Accept the trade, cut Roman Wilson, lose roster spot to pick up FA WR who could help me more.

3. Counter offering Ollie Gordon.

4. Trade Kyle Williams for a late projected 2, and then accept Teslaa trade for a projected late 3.

I'm leaning 1 but please tell me where if you'd do it differently, keeping in mind again the roster constraints.
So here’s my (perhaps wacky) take:
Assuming this isn’t IDP, pay the 3rd. I drafted him with a 4th in 2 leagues. He’s done more than enough this preseason (and the team invested enough in him on draft day) that if we were drafting rookies today, he’d be a 3rd round rookie pick. Maybe even a late 2nd, depending on needs of the teams picking there.

In a startup in July, I took him with a 19th round start-up pick (of 35).

In a start-up in early August a team drafted him with a 14th round pick (out of 32)

His stock has clearly risen & the Lions have been running him with the 1st in practice and preseason - and his play has done nothing but support that decision.

I agree he’d need [something] to really be a 2025 contributor and in redraft he’s probably a BB target. But for dynasty there are several ways for him to become relevant. Jamo moving on to a high bidder, injury, or potentially just the OC using more 3 WR sets. Maybe his production comes at the expense of some of Jamo, ARSB, or LaPorta even this year.

But I’m getting into the weeds. What matters for this answer is that he’s looked solid, the team clearly loves him, and is invested in him, and his dynasty draft stock has been climbing since our rookie drafts. Honestly I wouldn’t take a 3rd for him, but would easily pay one in every one of my leagues.
I'm not sure which of the above options I'd take @menobrown.

I ultimately took the Thornton deal for similar reasons ... I need a player for this year (ideally) with my window opening. TeSlaa is a very interesting player ... I believe they love him. I also wonder if he peaks as their Taysom Hill type of player and gets a lot of gadget stuff, but never surpasses ARSB or Jameson Williams. And even with all that, we don't *know* he can play as I don't think we've seen him running against top DBs.

I've seen Thornton playing with the starters against other starters all preseason. I think he's going to be revealed earlier to either be a good player or a guy I can move on from. Roster cloggers are real, and when you prioritize having multiple picks every year to churn the roster, earlier reveals have value.

In your case, I'd probably pursue option 1:
1) it sounds like this was also your lean;
2) I think TeSlaa takes a while to reveal, and in tight roster situations you're left without clear direction
3) I'd expect Gordon has a chance to pop sooner and then leave you a decision to trade him away or lean on him
4) I'm wondering if NE is holding back the reveal of Kyle Williams (he looked pretty darn good against MN and then was held out week 3)

None of this is to suggest @Hot Sauce Guy is wrong at all with his take ... TeSlaa is very much a more valuable asset than he was back at the draft. In my draft (first weekend of August every year), Thornton went 4.4, TeSlaa went to me at 4.10, and I just flipped TeSlaa for Thornton after that manager expressed interest.

I could've probably very easily had a future third for TeSlaa, and I personally wouldn't have sold for that.
 
And even with all that, we don't *know* he can play as I don't think we've seen him running against top DBs.
IIRC he beat one of the best in the NFL on a long catch in joint practice. Torched DJ Reed, who is considered top 5-7 DB.

But that said, I see little daylight between the players. IMO Thornton gives you more this year than TeSlaa. The gamble with TeSlaa and only chance for serious upside is that someone gets hurt, or leaves via FA, because he is at present blocked by some very good WRs.

I took Thornton late in the FBG Bowl league last night (14.05) and TeSlaa went 16.01, so in redraft I do have Thornton > TeSlaa.

For Dynasty I think it’s more of a needs-based a coin flip, and one of my tiebreakers is quality of team. I want pieces of the Lions offense where I can get them.

It’s always a really interesting discussion with WR for WR or RB for RB 1:1 trades.
This is one of the more interesting pairs of players. They’re very different types. Thornton is an Al Davis wet dream while TeSlaa looks like he could play TE if he ate a couple more cheeseburgers a week. Thornton has the ability to get behind a defense virtually at will, and TeSlaa seems more likely to win underneath, though he’s not a slug out there either.

Possible the Lions employ more 3 WR sets & TeSLlaa eats into some of the other guys targets. I mean, is Tim Patrick really some unassailable roadblock?

Anyway, fun discussion all around.
 
Another manager really wants TeSlaa ... offered me Donte Thornton
I’d hold on TeSlaa

Jamo is a FA next year. Never know.

Regardless TeSlaa has showed out so well they are going to use him.
I am the opposite. Thornton is getting a shot and succeeding and will be on the field a lot this year. Give me Thornton.
totally fair. As I said above, I think it’s close enough to be personal preference.
I got a Teslaa related question.

First of all I'm a longtime Razorback and totally whiffed on this guy. Never saw it. Was actually around several other Razorback fans when they picked him and we were all shocked. But kudos to Brad Holmes for seeing it because this dude has size, speed, body control and a strong hands catcher. But he's blocked IMO. Might give you a best ball week here or there but otherwise needs Jamo or ASRB to go down to be a lineup guy this year and eventually need one to leave.

So I was offered Teslaa for a 2026 third this morning and I've been chewing on it. My team is very thin at WR, honestly no viable WR3 as of today, but it's still a contender and while it does need WR's for the future it also needs WR depth for today and I don't really see him helping the today part. I like the overall value on the trade, just adding talent for a third is usually good business but it's smaller roster FFPC and I'm up against it on roster space now to say nothing of off-seeason cuts, but it's the now part I'm dealing with.

Right now I got Roman Wilson tagged as my least valuable keeper and I might cut him in the first waiver run. My second least valuable keeper is Ollie Gordon and I might be able to trade him straight up for Teslaa, I know they have interest in him. I also have Kyle Williams who I also can't count on right now but where I see him differently then Teslaa is he does have a path to role but I think I can trade him for a very late projected 2026 second.

So here are my options, keeping in mind I badly need a WR3 now, future WR help, and untill/unless I can trade from my TE or RB surplus I got no roster room.

1. Decline the trade, keep Roman Wilson for now with option to cut him to pick up viable FA WR after cuts are made.

2. Accept the trade, cut Roman Wilson, lose roster spot to pick up FA WR who could help me more.

3. Counter offering Ollie Gordon.

4. Trade Kyle Williams for a late projected 2, and then accept Teslaa trade for a projected late 3.

I'm leaning 1 but please tell me where if you'd do it differently, keeping in mind again the roster constraints.
So here’s my (perhaps wacky) take:
Assuming this isn’t IDP, pay the 3rd. I drafted him with a 4th in 2 leagues. He’s done more than enough this preseason (and the team invested enough in him on draft day) that if we were drafting rookies today, he’d be a 3rd round rookie pick. Maybe even a late 2nd, depending on needs of the teams picking there.

In a startup in July, I took him with a 19th round start-up pick (of 35).

In a start-up in early August a team drafted him with a 14th round pick (out of 32)

His stock has clearly risen & the Lions have been running him with the 1st in practice and preseason - and his play has done nothing but support that decision.

I agree he’d need [something] to really be a 2025 contributor and in redraft he’s probably a BB target. But for dynasty there are several ways for him to become relevant. Jamo moving on to a high bidder, injury, or potentially just the OC using more 3 WR sets. Maybe his production comes at the expense of some of Jamo, ARSB, or LaPorta even this year.

But I’m getting into the weeds. What matters for this answer is that he’s looked solid, the team clearly loves him, and is invested in him, and his dynasty draft stock has been climbing since our rookie drafts. Honestly I wouldn’t take a 3rd for him, but would easily pay one in every one of my leagues.
I'm not sure which of the above options I'd take @menobrown.

I ultimately took the Thornton deal for similar reasons ... I need a player for this year (ideally) with my window opening. TeSlaa is a very interesting player ... I believe they love him. I also wonder if he peaks as their Taysom Hill type of player and gets a lot of gadget stuff, but never surpasses ARSB or Jameson Williams. And even with all that, we don't *know* he can play as I don't think we've seen him running against top DBs.

I've seen Thornton playing with the starters against other starters all preseason. I think he's going to be revealed earlier to either be a good player or a guy I can move on from. Roster cloggers are real, and when you prioritize having multiple picks every year to churn the roster, earlier reveals have value.

In your case, I'd probably pursue option 1:
1) it sounds like this was also your lean;
2) I think TeSlaa takes a while to reveal, and in tight roster situations you're left without clear direction
3) I'd expect Gordon has a chance to pop sooner and then leave you a decision to trade him away or lean on him
4) I'm wondering if NE is holding back the reveal of Kyle Williams (he looked pretty darn good against MN and then was held out week 3)

None of this is to suggest @Hot Sauce Guy is wrong at all with his take ... TeSlaa is very much a more valuable asset than he was back at the draft. In my draft (first weekend of August every year), Thornton went 4.4, TeSlaa went to me at 4.10, and I just flipped TeSlaa for Thornton after that manager expressed interest.

I could've probably very easily had a future third for TeSlaa, and I personally wouldn't have sold for that.
Appreciate your well thought out reply and I agreed with it.

Before I had even seen your reply I ended up rejecting the third and offering a 4th for Teslaa instead on the notion if I had to cut him in next week or so it would be easier to take then sacrificing a third as well as it's just easier for me to get a 4th back if needed.

This puts my team in a situation of only 4 WR's total, two rookies in Kyle Williams and Teslaa I can't trust. Seems dire but I just did this same dance last year and it went well. I've got an abundance of RB's and TE's but it's specifically the TE where I think I can make a deal eventually to free up room or directly acquire a WR(is TEP 1.5).

As I was literally typing this the team I made the trade with just offered me my 4th back along with Devin Neal(I have Kamara and Kendre) and Roschon for Ollie Gordon. I suspected he'd want Gordon since he has Achane and Wright, was suprised he did not try and get him initially but I will not be able to help them with this trade request.
 
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I took Thornton late in the FBG Bowl league last night (14.05) and TeSlaa went 16.01, so in redraft I do have Thornton > TeSlaa.
And now I regret taking Thornton over TeSlaa in redraft just a smidge.
Why? I still have Thornton over TeSlaa until the NFL games say otherwise.
Why? Open path to production for TeSlaa.

Sure, maybe 4th (or 5th) in the pecking order, but do we know Thornton is higher than that with Bowers, Cooper, Meyers, Jeanty, Bech?
 
I took Thornton late in the FBG Bowl league last night (14.05) and TeSlaa went 16.01, so in redraft I do have Thornton > TeSlaa.
And now I regret taking Thornton over TeSlaa in redraft just a smidge.
Why? I still have Thornton over TeSlaa until the NFL games say otherwise.
Why? Open path to production for TeSlaa.

Sure, maybe 4th (or 5th) in the pecking order, but do we know Thornton is higher than that with Bowers, Cooper, Meyers, Jeanty, Bech?
I would say he is higher on the Raiders pecking order than TeSlaa on the Lions pecking order. That is all I am saying. Like I said, until NFL games show me something else I will go with the guy that was given a starting job a month ago over a guy that still needs an injury to be more than a best ball opportunity guy. TesLaa is looking promising though and I wish I had him too.

That's just my opinion, man. haha
 
I took Thornton late in the FBG Bowl league last night (14.05) and TeSlaa went 16.01, so in redraft I do have Thornton > TeSlaa.
And now I regret taking Thornton over TeSlaa in redraft just a smidge.
Why? I still have Thornton over TeSlaa until the NFL games say otherwise.
Why? Open path to production for TeSlaa.

Sure, maybe 4th (or 5th) in the pecking order, but do we know Thornton is higher than that with Bowers, Cooper, Meyers, Jeanty, Bech?
I would say he is higher on the Raiders pecking order than TeSlaa on the Lions pecking order. That is all I am saying. Like I said, until NFL games show me something else I will go with the guy that was given a starting job a month ago over a guy that still needs an injury to be more than a best ball opportunity guy. TesLaa is looking promising though and I wish I had him too.

That's just my opinion, man. haha
Possible. I have stock in both players. I hope they’re both relevant.

The one regret is drafting Jordan James in a league I need WRs (rookie draft). I was hemming and hawing about TeSlaa.
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I took Thornton late in the FBG Bowl league last night (14.05) and TeSlaa went 16.01, so in redraft I do have Thornton > TeSlaa.
And now I regret taking Thornton over TeSlaa in redraft just a smidge.
Why? I still have Thornton over TeSlaa until the NFL games say otherwise.
Why? Open path to production for TeSlaa.

Sure, maybe 4th (or 5th) in the pecking order, but do we know Thornton is higher than that with Bowers, Cooper, Meyers, Jeanty, Bech?
I would say he is higher on the Raiders pecking order than TeSlaa on the Lions pecking order. That is all I am saying. Like I said, until NFL games show me something else I will go with the guy that was given a starting job a month ago over a guy that still needs an injury to be more than a best ball opportunity guy. TesLaa is looking promising though and I wish I had him too.

That's just my opinion, man. haha
Possible. I have stock in both players. I hope they’re both relevant.

The one regret is drafting Jordan James in a league I need WRs. I was hemming and hawing about TeSlaa.
:wall:
My regret was I had picks 14.09 and 15.02 and wanted Ya Ya Diaby and TeSlaa with those picks. Knowing my leaguemates that picked between I didn't think they would know TeSlaa so took Diaby first (I needed DL depth more than WR depth). Then TeSlaa was taken at pick 15.01. Ugh.

(I do have Thornton in that league though).
 
I think Egbuka will have a better 2025 season, but Hunter will be better long term.
Differing opinions is what makes this fun. I think the opposite debating these two. I think for this year, Hunter has the better numbers, but think Egbuka is the better pro. Evans has one more year of being the alpha. The following year he hands the keys to the talented Egbuka. Imo
 
I think Egbuka will have a better 2025 season, but Hunter will be better long term.
Differing opinions is what makes this fun. I think the opposite debating these two. I think for this year, Hunter has the better numbers, but think Egbuka is the better pro. Evans has one more year of being the alpha. The following year he hands the keys to the talented Egbuka. Imo

What about Brian Thomas?
 
I took Thornton late in the FBG Bowl league last night (14.05) and TeSlaa went 16.01, so in redraft I do have Thornton > TeSlaa.
And now I regret taking Thornton over TeSlaa in redraft just a smidge.
Why? I still have Thornton over TeSlaa until the NFL games say otherwise.
Why? Open path to production for TeSlaa.

Sure, maybe 4th (or 5th) in the pecking order, but do we know Thornton is higher than that with Bowers, Cooper, Meyers, Jeanty, Bech?
I would say he is higher on the Raiders pecking order than TeSlaa on the Lions pecking order. That is all I am saying. Like I said, until NFL games show me something else I will go with the guy that was given a starting job a month ago over a guy that still needs an injury to be more than a best ball opportunity guy. TesLaa is looking promising though and I wish I had him too.

That's just my opinion, man. haha
Truthfully, I'd like to have both ... and I winced a bit when Patrick was cleared out. However, I didn't expect Patrick to be much more than a speed bump anyway, so no real difference.

I see one guy as a starting X, the other as a guy deeper down the pecking order. One guy ran with starters and the starting QB all season, the other has next to no reps with the starters.

I would love to have both in dynasty, but prefer Thornton still if we're talking short term. I'm not convinced their ceilings are that different either.
 
I took Thornton late in the FBG Bowl league last night (14.05) and TeSlaa went 16.01, so in redraft I do have Thornton > TeSlaa.
And now I regret taking Thornton over TeSlaa in redraft just a smidge.
Why? I still have Thornton over TeSlaa until the NFL games say otherwise.
Why? Open path to production for TeSlaa.

Sure, maybe 4th (or 5th) in the pecking order, but do we know Thornton is higher than that with Bowers, Cooper, Meyers, Jeanty, Bech?
I would say he is higher on the Raiders pecking order than TeSlaa on the Lions pecking order. That is all I am saying. Like I said, until NFL games show me something else I will go with the guy that was given a starting job a month ago over a guy that still needs an injury to be more than a best ball opportunity guy. TesLaa is looking promising though and I wish I had him too.

That's just my opinion, man. haha
Truthfully, I'd like to have both ... and I winced a bit when Patrick was cleared out. However, I didn't expect Patrick to be much more than a speed bump anyway, so no real difference.

I see one guy as a starting X, the other as a guy deeper down the pecking order. One guy ran with starters and the starting QB all season, the other has next to no reps with the starters.

I would love to have both in dynasty, but prefer Thornton still if we're talking short term. I'm not convinced their ceilings are that different either.
I have Thornton and have been trying to get TeSlaa to go with him. I was sniped by one pick on TeSlaa in the draft.

I offered up Kyle Williams and early 3rd rookie pick and was turned down because "I may have to play TeSlaa because i don't have a lot of WR options". So I countered with Meyers as he has Jeudy, Bateman, and Kirk as his starting options. Figured if he wanted immediate help that Meyers would be a good option. Unfortunately he doesn't see Meyers as an improvement and thinks he can't use him.
 
This is really a WDIS post (more like “Who Do I Cut”) but I asked about this in the Corum thread since he is one of my options for Last Cut before week 1 (unless someone is made IR-eligible for week 1, saving me a cut).

Anyway, here are my posts from the other thread, copy/pasted here:

(Corum was called a “tough hold” in a previous post in that thread)

I’m facing exactly this situation (tough hold) in my Keep 13 league where I need to drop 1 player in order to add a kicker before week 1. (I’m hoping one of my bench players can be placed on IR for the week). I already shipped off Shipley to the Barkley owner for a 4th, and now I have to chose between Corum (KWilliams owner isn’t interested in a trade), Ray Davis (Cook owner doesn’t seem interested in a trade), Giddens (I roster JTaylor), Blue (I roster JWilliams) and I have Kirk/Meyers/Kyle Williams as well at the “bottom” or my WR a bench, but I’d like to keep them all.
Looking like Corum is lowest man on the totem pole (on my roster) at this point.

The league is a QRWWWFKD lineups, so we’re only forced to start 1 RB (we’re adding mandatory TE next year, finally, and I have Bowers ready to roll). I’m an old school RB horder ;) so I have a bunch (JTaylor/Giddens, Hampton, JWlliams/Blue, Tuten, Davis, Corum). WRs are Lamb, Olave, Bowers (til TE-mandatory kicks in), Golden/Reed, Kirk, Meyers, Kyle Williams. So I feel pretty solid on both the RB and WR side of things.
QBs are Dak/Stroud FWIW.

Thoughts on who you would drop?

ETA: I guess Giddens might be lower on the totem pole and more droppable than Corum. Maybe I’m over-emphasizing the handcuff with Taylor?
 
This is really a WDIS post (more like “Who Do I Cut”) but I asked about this in the Corum thread since he is one of my options for Last Cut before week 1 (unless someone is made IR-eligible for week 1, saving me a cut).

Anyway, here are my posts from the other thread, copy/pasted here:

(Corum was called a “tough hold” in a previous post in that thread)

I’m facing exactly this situation (tough hold) in my Keep 13 league where I need to drop 1 player in order to add a kicker before week 1. (I’m hoping one of my bench players can be placed on IR for the week). I already shipped off Shipley to the Barkley owner for a 4th, and now I have to chose between Corum (KWilliams owner isn’t interested in a trade), Ray Davis (Cook owner doesn’t seem interested in a trade), Giddens (I roster JTaylor), Blue (I roster JWilliams) and I have Kirk/Meyers/Kyle Williams as well at the “bottom” or my WR a bench, but I’d like to keep them all.
Looking like Corum is lowest man on the totem pole (on my roster) at this point.

The league is a QRWWWFKD lineups, so we’re only forced to start 1 RB (we’re adding mandatory TE next year, finally, and I have Bowers ready to roll). I’m an old school RB horder ;) so I have a bunch (JTaylor/Giddens, Hampton, JWlliams/Blue, Tuten, Davis, Corum). WRs are Lamb, Olave, Bowers (til TE-mandatory kicks in), Golden/Reed, Kirk, Meyers, Kyle Williams. So I feel pretty solid on both the RB and WR side of things.
QBs are Dak/Stroud FWIW.

Thoughts on who you would drop?

ETA: I guess Giddens might be lower on the totem pole and more droppable than Corum. Maybe I’m over-emphasizing the handcuff with Taylor?
Have you checked with the Kyren shareholder to see if they want to send you a pick for him?
 
This is really a WDIS post (more like “Who Do I Cut”) but I asked about this in the Corum thread since he is one of my options for Last Cut before week 1 (unless someone is made IR-eligible for week 1, saving me a cut).

Anyway, here are my posts from the other thread, copy/pasted here:

(Corum was called a “tough hold” in a previous post in that thread)

I’m facing exactly this situation (tough hold) in my Keep 13 league where I need to drop 1 player in order to add a kicker before week 1. (I’m hoping one of my bench players can be placed on IR for the week). I already shipped off Shipley to the Barkley owner for a 4th, and now I have to chose between Corum (KWilliams owner isn’t interested in a trade), Ray Davis (Cook owner doesn’t seem interested in a trade), Giddens (I roster JTaylor), Blue (I roster JWilliams) and I have Kirk/Meyers/Kyle Williams as well at the “bottom” or my WR a bench, but I’d like to keep them all.
Looking like Corum is lowest man on the totem pole (on my roster) at this point.

The league is a QRWWWFKD lineups, so we’re only forced to start 1 RB (we’re adding mandatory TE next year, finally, and I have Bowers ready to roll). I’m an old school RB horder ;) so I have a bunch (JTaylor/Giddens, Hampton, JWlliams/Blue, Tuten, Davis, Corum). WRs are Lamb, Olave, Bowers (til TE-mandatory kicks in), Golden/Reed, Kirk, Meyers, Kyle Williams. So I feel pretty solid on both the RB and WR side of things.
QBs are Dak/Stroud FWIW.

Thoughts on who you would drop?

ETA: I guess Giddens might be lower on the totem pole and more droppable than Corum. Maybe I’m over-emphasizing the handcuff with Taylor?
Have you checked with the Kyren shareholder to see if they want to send you a pick for him?
See sentence 2 in paragraph 3 of my novel above ;)
 
This is really a WDIS post (more like “Who Do I Cut”) but I asked about this in the Corum thread since he is one of my options for Last Cut before week 1 (unless someone is made IR-eligible for week 1, saving me a cut).

Anyway, here are my posts from the other thread, copy/pasted here:

(Corum was called a “tough hold” in a previous post in that thread)

I’m facing exactly this situation (tough hold) in my Keep 13 league where I need to drop 1 player in order to add a kicker before week 1. (I’m hoping one of my bench players can be placed on IR for the week). I already shipped off Shipley to the Barkley owner for a 4th, and now I have to chose between Corum (KWilliams owner isn’t interested in a trade), Ray Davis (Cook owner doesn’t seem interested in a trade), Giddens (I roster JTaylor), Blue (I roster JWilliams) and I have Kirk/Meyers/Kyle Williams as well at the “bottom” or my WR a bench, but I’d like to keep them all.
Looking like Corum is lowest man on the totem pole (on my roster) at this point.

The league is a QRWWWFKD lineups, so we’re only forced to start 1 RB (we’re adding mandatory TE next year, finally, and I have Bowers ready to roll). I’m an old school RB horder ;) so I have a bunch (JTaylor/Giddens, Hampton, JWlliams/Blue, Tuten, Davis, Corum). WRs are Lamb, Olave, Bowers (til TE-mandatory kicks in), Golden/Reed, Kirk, Meyers, Kyle Williams. So I feel pretty solid on both the RB and WR side of things.
QBs are Dak/Stroud FWIW.

Thoughts on who you would drop?

ETA: I guess Giddens might be lower on the totem pole and more droppable than Corum. Maybe I’m over-emphasizing the handcuff with Taylor?
Handcuffs are such a crapshoot. I look at it through a couple filters.
1. Actual talent - pretty straightforward. Keep the most talented player
2. Situation - Is the handcuff in a situation to plug and play directly into the offense if the starter goes down. Does the offense feature their RB? What's the Oline look like.
3. Risk assessment of potential starter - What kind of running style do they have? Do they have a history of injury?

If we apply this to your 3 RB considerations, it might look something like this:

Blake Corrum
1. 3rd round draft capital, strong junior and senior year with 1400 and 1200 yards and 18 and 24 TDs.
2. The LAR offense features Kyren Williams and their Oline is pretty good at run blocking. Corrum and Williams have a pretty similar running style, so he would be a relative plug and play into the offense.
3. Kyren Williams has missed 4 games over the past two season due to a high ankle sprain. Dude is pretty tough.

DJ Giddens
1. 5th round draft capital, good measurables, good junior and senior seasons ~1200 yards and 6TDs per season.
2. The Colts will feature a RB strongly in 2025. Giddens seems like a natural plug and play into the offense. The biggest concern is over the IOL with 2 young starters at C and RG.
3. J Taylor has had numerous injuries in the past few years leading to missing 11 games over the past 3 seasons.

Jaydon Blue
1. 5th round draft capital, more slight build than the average NFL RB, mediocre college production in 2023 and 2024.
2. Dallas is all over the board. I would expect they will not be very competitive this season leading to a lot of games with higher than normal passing rates. The OL has some questions particularly with Tyler Booker replacing HoF guard Zach Martin. Blue and "starter" Javonte Williams seem to have pretty divergent skillsets.
3. Javonte is the starter in name only right now. Blue had a good camp and preseason and could be in line to be a starter with or without an injury to Javonte.

Draw your own conclusions here, obviously, but going through the motions on this, I tend to agree that Corrum is probably the guy to cut. He's got the talent to start should Williams go down, but the opportunity seems severely lacking.
 
Hot Sauce Guy you are one of my favorite posters on here. You make me laugh all the time, thank you sir.
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Thank god because I suck at FF.
We all do brother, we all do. That's why its fun. Right now? We are the smartest we will be all season - We'll all get kicked in the face week 1, then we'll get marginally smarter as the season goes on. Then the playoffs start. Our "smart" spikes, but it's fake ...

... and we'll all be right back here next year.

Sorry for the hijack. To pull it back in, I'll add that your 2026 draft picks are currently at the lowest value right now - if you can swing for a stud? and it requires a draft pick? Do it. If you're savvy enough, you can add more picks before the draft next year.
 
This is really a WDIS post (more like “Who Do I Cut”) but I asked about this in the Corum thread since he is one of my options for Last Cut before week 1 (unless someone is made IR-eligible for week 1, saving me a cut).

Anyway, here are my posts from the other thread, copy/pasted here:

(Corum was called a “tough hold” in a previous post in that thread)

I’m facing exactly this situation (tough hold) in my Keep 13 league where I need to drop 1 player in order to add a kicker before week 1. (I’m hoping one of my bench players can be placed on IR for the week). I already shipped off Shipley to the Barkley owner for a 4th, and now I have to chose between Corum (KWilliams owner isn’t interested in a trade), Ray Davis (Cook owner doesn’t seem interested in a trade), Giddens (I roster JTaylor), Blue (I roster JWilliams) and I have Kirk/Meyers/Kyle Williams as well at the “bottom” or my WR a bench, but I’d like to keep them all.
Looking like Corum is lowest man on the totem pole (on my roster) at this point.

The league is a QRWWWFKD lineups, so we’re only forced to start 1 RB (we’re adding mandatory TE next year, finally, and I have Bowers ready to roll). I’m an old school RB horder ;) so I have a bunch (JTaylor/Giddens, Hampton, JWlliams/Blue, Tuten, Davis, Corum). WRs are Lamb, Olave, Bowers (til TE-mandatory kicks in), Golden/Reed, Kirk, Meyers, Kyle Williams. So I feel pretty solid on both the RB and WR side of things.
QBs are Dak/Stroud FWIW.

Thoughts on who you would drop?

ETA: I guess Giddens might be lower on the totem pole and more droppable than Corum. Maybe I’m over-emphasizing the handcuff with Taylor?
Handcuffs are such a crapshoot. I look at it through a couple filters.
1. Actual talent - pretty straightforward. Keep the most talented player
2. Situation - Is the handcuff in a situation to plug and play directly into the offense if the starter goes down. Does the offense feature their RB? What's the Oline look like.
3. Risk assessment of potential starter - What kind of running style do they have? Do they have a history of injury?

If we apply this to your 3 RB considerations, it might look something like this:

Blake Corrum
1. 3rd round draft capital, strong junior and senior year with 1400 and 1200 yards and 18 and 24 TDs.
2. The LAR offense features Kyren Williams and their Oline is pretty good at run blocking. Corrum and Williams have a pretty similar running style, so he would be a relative plug and play into the offense.
3. Kyren Williams has missed 4 games over the past two season due to a high ankle sprain. Dude is pretty tough.

DJ Giddens
1. 5th round draft capital, good measurables, good junior and senior seasons ~1200 yards and 6TDs per season.
2. The Colts will feature a RB strongly in 2025. Giddens seems like a natural plug and play into the offense. The biggest concern is over the IOL with 2 young starters at C and RG.
3. J Taylor has had numerous injuries in the past few years leading to missing 11 games over the past 3 seasons.

Jaydon Blue
1. 5th round draft capital, more slight build than the average NFL RB, mediocre college production in 2023 and 2024.
2. Dallas is all over the board. I would expect they will not be very competitive this season leading to a lot of games with higher than normal passing rates. The OL has some questions particularly with Tyler Booker replacing HoF guard Zach Martin. Blue and "starter" Javonte Williams seem to have pretty divergent skillsets.
3. Javonte is the starter in name only right now. Blue had a good camp and preseason and could be in line to be a starter with or without an injury to Javonte.

Draw your own conclusions here, obviously, but going through the motions on this, I tend to agree that Corrum is probably the guy to cut. He's got the talent to start should Williams go down, but the opportunity seems severely lacking.
Fantastic breakdown and thoughts. Greatly appreciated.

Too bad @Hot Sauce Guy will never read it since it’s too long for him ;)
 
1QB PPR Contract/Salary league (Salary increase 10% per year)

Judkins $1.8 5 years
Nico Collins $11m 4 years

For

Kyren $7m 3 years
MH2 $5m 4 years

Thoughts fine Sers?
 
1QB PPR Contract/Salary league (Salary increase 10% per year)

Judkins $1.8 5 years
Nico Collins $11m 4 years

For

Kyren $7m 3 years
MH2 $5m 4 years

Thoughts fine Sers?
I’m less confident in the RB longevity in this deal - I’m reasonably certain Kyren will be more valuable than Judkins at least the next 2 years. And you get younger at WR. I’d venture a guess you’ll get more points out of MH2+Kyren over that span as well.
 
1QB PPR Contract/Salary league (Salary increase 10% per year)

Judkins $1.8 5 years
Nico Collins $11m 4 years

For

Kyren $7m 3 years
MH2 $5m 4 years

Thoughts fine Sers?
MHJ + Kyren side, IMO. I'm high on MHJ this year and this seems like a buy low for him. Plus Kyren is a stud and will outscore judkins in the short and medium term.
 
Got offered

Irving
Kaleb
Pittman

For

MH2
I don’t love it. Big downgrade from MH2 to Pittman. If you have the WR depth to spare it’s probably fair.
See above post for my WR’s
I don’t think I’d do it - you don’t really have the depth to lose a potential future stud WR & replace him with a soon to be 28 y/o Pittman (October). If Pittman had a less volatile QB situation, maybe.

I dunno - I like Bucky, but I don’t like building around RBs in dynasty. You don’t know what Tet’s going to be yet (I’m optimistic) so that adds risk. Seems like you could make a less impactful deal for a RB, and keep your young corps of receivers. RBs just don’t age as well.

Also I have concerns about Kaleb, given recent reporting. I roster him and expect his role to grow, but early on he may struggle to see the field enough to be FF relevant.

My $.02
 
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Got offered

Irving
Kaleb
Pittman

For

MH2
Nice fair offer
I agree the value is probably right. Hey, if Kaleb hits it's probably an overpay. And if MH2 continues to be a WR2 for years, then it's tilted firmly towards Bucky.
I own shares of all of them so I feel fairly unbiased. If you broke it down in pure draft capital, it looks like a decent enough cash out on MH2 if you weren't impressed in his rookie year.

Certainly situation dependent. One of my shares of MH2 is with an extremely weak team, so that's a trade I would definitely pull the trigger on in that case.
 
Torn between a bunch of "meh" guys and need to cut three in a SF, 1 pt PPR, + 1/2 pt TEP league.
Any strong feelings on any of these guys that should stay or go?...
Tommy Tremble, Daniel Bellinger, Gunnar Helm, Luke Schoonmaker
Parker Washington, Tai Felton, Jermaine Burton, Jalen Tolbert
Who are the lowest value guys or likely to see value drop?
 
Torn between a bunch of "meh" guys and need to cut three in a SF, 1 pt PPR, + 1/2 pt TEP league.
Any strong feelings on any of these guys that should stay or go?...
Tommy Tremble, Daniel Bellinger, Gunnar Helm, Luke Schoonmaker
Parker Washington, Tai Felton, Jermaine Burton, Jalen Tolbert
Who are the lowest value guys or likely to see value drop?
Of the bunch, only Helm & Burton have much value, IMO.
 
Torn between a bunch of "meh" guys and need to cut three in a SF, 1 pt PPR, + 1/2 pt TEP league.
Any strong feelings on any of these guys that should stay or go?...
Tommy Tremble, Daniel Bellinger, Gunnar Helm, Luke Schoonmaker
Parker Washington, Tai Felton, Jermaine Burton, Jalen Tolbert
Who are the lowest value guys or likely to see value drop?
Hold your nose and pick 3. In huge roster leagues, I'd keep Tremble, Burton and Helm. The other 5 are droppable.
 
Torn between a bunch of "meh" guys and need to cut three in a SF, 1 pt PPR, + 1/2 pt TEP league.
Any strong feelings on any of these guys that should stay or go?...
Tommy Tremble, Daniel Bellinger, Gunnar Helm, Luke Schoonmaker
Parker Washington, Tai Felton, Jermaine Burton, Jalen Tolbert
Who are the lowest value guys or likely to see value drop?
Hold your nose and pick 3. In huge roster leagues, I'd keep Tremble, Burton and Helm. The other 5 are droppable.
I’d go schoonmaker over tremble and Felton over Burton myself
 
Value check on Nix these days? I've been hunting shares of Odunze lately and was offered this recently in a 1QB league:

Give Nix + Addision
Get Caleb + Odunze

Neither Nix nor Caleb would be my QB1 as I have Mahomes and Darnold, but I'm hesitating on the Nix valuation.
 
Value check on Nix these days? I've been hunting shares of Odunze lately and was offered this recently in a 1QB league:

Give Nix + Addision
Get Caleb + Odunze

Neither Nix nor Caleb would be my QB1 as I have Mahomes and Darnold, but I'm hesitating on the Nix valuation.
I'd jump at the Caleb Odunze side. I will admit I'm bullish on both those guys and would love to acquire them. I'm not very high on Addison as JJ is there. Odunze I can see being the #1 in CHI in the near future - not so much for Addison. I like Nix but not a lot - still don't fully belive in him but he had a fantastic year.

If the trader is super high on Nix maybe you can squeeze a late pick added on if it is close and he really likes it. Squeeze it for what you can get - but I like the deal as is.
 

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