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Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (6 Viewers)

thoughts?

TEAM A gives:
2026 & 2027 First Round picks (could be anywhere from early to late to be honest)
Kirk Cousins

TEAM B gives:
Kenneth Walker
Cam Ward

The challenge for me with this one is that KWIII seems like a win-now piece & Cam Ward seems like a futures bet.

So if this is a win-now move I’d rather deal for a QB who’s going to help me win now. I’m assuming it’s a 1 QB league.

That said, it’s a fair deal - maybe even a bargain for the team getting the players. Not sure what the point of Cousins inclusion is, but whatever.
 
thoughts?

TEAM A gives:
2026 & 2027 First Round picks (could be anywhere from early to late to be honest)
Kirk Cousins

TEAM B gives:
Kenneth Walker
Cam Ward

The challenge for me with this one is that KWIII seems like a win-now piece & Cam Ward seems like a futures bet.

So if this is a win-now move I’d rather deal for a QB who’s going to help me win now. I’m assuming it’s a 1 QB league.

That said, it’s a fair deal - maybe even a bargain for the team getting the players. Not sure what the point of Cousins inclusion is, but whatever.
the team trading for KWIII is 1-3 but had two tough losses and very little other RB depth.
Baker/Stafford are their starts so Ward is a down the road investment.
 
Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.
 
Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.

Wow, I can’t help but throw a bucket of ice water on that. Nobody is taking Godwin and Javonte Williams for a WR1.

Things don’t move that much in four weeks. Godwin is thirty and still recovering from serious surgery. He’s also taking snaps wide when his specialty is the slot. JW looks aight but not incredible nor does one have any faith in his ability to last the year, never mind have faith in his long term prospects.

I don’t think I’d counter offer. I think Jeanty and Hampton are so valuable I wouldn’t offer for them out of fear of insulting you, but Judkins, although maybe a reach, would be the thing that got it done without Godwin. But the gap between Judkins and Jav Williams is vast.

I’m trying to be as fair as I can be. Judkins for a WR1 is about right. Godwin is overkill and Jeanty and Hampton are frankly worth a bunch more then the unpredictable WR landscape.
 
Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.

Wow, I can’t help but throw a bucket of ice water on that. Nobody is taking Godwin and Javonte Williams for a WR1.

Things don’t move that much in four weeks. Godwin is thirty and still recovering from serious surgery. He’s also taking snaps wide when his specialty is the slot. JW looks aight but not incredible nor does one have any faith in his ability to last the year, never mind have faith in his long term prospects.

I don’t think I’d counter offer. I think Jeanty and Hampton are so valuable I wouldn’t offer for them out of fear of insulting you, but Judkins, although maybe a reach, would be the thing that got it done without Godwin. But the gap between Judkins and Jav Williams is vast.

I’m trying to be as fair as I can be. Judkins for a WR1 is about right. Godwin is overkill and Jeanty and Hampton are frankly worth a bunch more then the unpredictable WR landscape.
I mean, that might be true, but why come out the gate like that?

Godwin + JaWill is a solid opening salvo to an upgrade from Godwin. Maybe the target is a borderline WR1. Maybe it’s a gamble on buying Jameson Williams on the dip? And if a couple opening offers go nowhere, then upgrade to one of the younger backs.

Like John Cleese said in The Meaning of Life, “what’s wrong with a kiss, boy?”
 
Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.

Wow, I can’t help but throw a bucket of ice water on that. Nobody is taking Godwin and Javonte Williams for a WR1.

Things don’t move that much in four weeks. Godwin is thirty and still recovering from serious surgery. He’s also taking snaps wide when his specialty is the slot. JW looks aight but not incredible nor does one have any faith in his ability to last the year, never mind have faith in his long term prospects.

I don’t think I’d counter offer. I think Jeanty and Hampton are so valuable I wouldn’t offer for them out of fear of insulting you, but Judkins, although maybe a reach, would be the thing that got it done without Godwin. But the gap between Judkins and Jav Williams is vast.

I’m trying to be as fair as I can be. Judkins for a WR1 is about right. Godwin is overkill and Jeanty and Hampton are frankly worth a bunch more then the unpredictable WR landscape.
I mean, that might be true, but why come out the gate like that?

Godwin + JaWill is a solid opening salvo to an upgrade from Godwin. Maybe the target is a borderline WR1. Maybe it’s a gamble on buying Jameson Williams on the dip? And if a couple opening offers go nowhere, then upgrade to one of the younger backs.

Like John Cleese said in The Meaning of Life, “what’s wrong with a kiss, boy?”

Ah, I totally dig it. Heh. My reasoning for doing that encompassed a few things. First of all, I just wanted to drill down to the value.

And my second reason is a bit more in-depth, and explained below.

I have to say you make a good point about the gate and the dance, but here's where we might differ a bit. It's truly temperamental. I loathe negotiating or the art of the deal. I'm uncomfortable with it because I find the process too adversarial, too ungenerous, and too many people try and take advantage of goodwill and good-natured, fair dealing. When I catch that this is happening, it drives me up a wall and it can ruin my mood. I then have to cool myself down so that I don't take what I consider to be lousy offers in a personal way. i get this way because I think a lot of experienced players know that there's a pretty defined market value for a player at that particular moment.

But that's not a great assumption I'm making. Some people do not know market value at all and I've dealt with them recently. They just have a different way of valuing guys. And I will say that once I find that out, I'm actually totally cool with their process and their thoughts. It's when the guys I know damn well know better try to get over that I actually get a touch peeved.

So it really stems from that. You guys know Godwin and Javonte aren't fair exchange for a clear WR1. At least that's my perception of it. Heh. So it could be wrong. But that's where coming out of the gate like that comes from. I had a guy in one of my leagues whom I made easy, fair deals with. We just would contact the other and it was done so easily with little hassle. I think he wound up with a really good deal from me one time and I wound up with a cheaper 1.01 than market (he sent the offer), which wound up really favoring me. But yeah, we built good teams that way. I miss being on the same page like that.

Oh well. Such is trading, FF, and life.
 
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Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.

Wow, I can’t help but throw a bucket of ice water on that. Nobody is taking Godwin and Javonte Williams for a WR1.

Things don’t move that much in four weeks. Godwin is thirty and still recovering from serious surgery. He’s also taking snaps wide when his specialty is the slot. JW looks aight but not incredible nor does one have any faith in his ability to last the year, never mind have faith in his long term prospects.

I don’t think I’d counter offer. I think Jeanty and Hampton are so valuable I wouldn’t offer for them out of fear of insulting you, but Judkins, although maybe a reach, would be the thing that got it done without Godwin. But the gap between Judkins and Jav Williams is vast.

I’m trying to be as fair as I can be. Judkins for a WR1 is about right. Godwin is overkill and Jeanty and Hampton are frankly worth a bunch more then the unpredictable WR landscape.
I mean, that might be true, but why come out the gate like that?

Godwin + JaWill is a solid opening salvo to an upgrade from Godwin. Maybe the target is a borderline WR1. Maybe it’s a gamble on buying Jameson Williams on the dip? And if a couple opening offers go nowhere, then upgrade to one of the younger backs.

Like John Cleese said in The Meaning of Life, “what’s wrong with a kiss, boy?”

Ah, I totally dig it. Heh. My reasoning for doing that encompassed a few things. First of all, I just wanted to drill down to the value.

And my second reason is a bit more in-depth, and explained below.

I have to say you make a good point about the gate and the dance, but here's where we might differ a bit. It's truly temperamental. I loathe negotiating or the art of the deal. I'm uncomfortable with it because I find the process too adversarial, too ungenerous, and too many people try and take advantage of goodwill and good-natured, fair dealing. When I catch that this is happening, it drives me up a wall and it can ruin my mood. I then have to cool myself down so that I don't take what I consider to be lousy offers in a personal way. i get this way because I think a lot of experienced players know that there's a pretty defined market value for a player at that particular moment.

But that's not a great assumption I'm making. Some people do not know market value at all and I've dealt with them recently. They just have a different way of valuing guys. And I will say that once I find that out, I'm actually totally cool with their process and their thoughts. It's when the guys I know damn well know better try to get over that I actually get a touch peeved.

So it really stems from that. You guys know Godwin and Javonte aren't fair exchange for a clear WR1. At least that's my perception of it. Heh. So it could be wrong. But that's where coming out of the gate like that comes from. I had a guy in one of my leagues whom I made easy, fair deals with. We just would contact the other and it was done so easily with little hassle. I think he wound up with a really good deal from me one time and I wound up with a cheaper 1.01 than market (he sent the offer), which wound up really favoring me. But yeah, we built good teams that way. I miss being on the same page like that.

Oh well. Such is trading, FF, and life.
Every now and then an opening salvo gets accepted. Sometimes the counter is still less than full value. I’m not saying you can’t come out with Champaign & caviar— hey, that gets it done. Respect it. Wish people offered me full value all the time.

But imma offer up the 2 dudes I mind losing least of that list and see if I can get a nibble.
 
FFPC end of bench WRs: who has the LEAST dynasty value?

D Thornton WR LV
J Bech WR LV
C Austin WR PIT
P Bryant WR DEN
J McMillan WR TB

Most know that FFPC is pretty small rosters (20) and injuries hit, etc etc....so wondering who the hive mind thinks is Most Droppable, future "upside" be damned ;)
 
FFPC end of bench WRs: who has the LEAST dynasty value?

D Thornton WR LV
J Bech WR LV
C Austin WR PIT
P Bryant WR DEN
J McMillan WR TB

Most know that FFPC is pretty small rosters (20) and injuries hit, etc etc....so wondering who the hive mind thinks is Most Droppable, future "upside" be damned ;)
I would rank them this way from best to worst:
  1. Thornton
  2. McMillan
  3. Bryant
  4. Bech
  5. Austin
 
FFPC end of bench WRs: who has the LEAST dynasty value?

D Thornton WR LV
J Bech WR LV
C Austin WR PIT
P Bryant WR DEN
J McMillan WR TB

Most know that FFPC is pretty small rosters (20) and injuries hit, etc etc....so wondering who the hive mind thinks is Most Droppable, future "upside" be damned ;)
I would rank them this way from best to worst:
  1. Thornton
  2. McMillan
  3. Bryant
  4. Bech
  5. Austin
I concur
 
FFPC end of bench WRs: who has the LEAST dynasty value?

D Thornton WR LV
J Bech WR LV
C Austin WR PIT
P Bryant WR DEN
J McMillan WR TB

Most know that FFPC is pretty small rosters (20) and injuries hit, etc etc....so wondering who the hive mind thinks is Most Droppable, future "upside" be damned ;)
I would rank them this way from best to worst:
  1. Thornton
  2. McMillan
  3. Bryant
  4. Bech
  5. Austin
I concur
Thanks. Dropped Austin for Tolbert WR DAL.

Championship!!!!
 
I made an offer for Malik, and got countered with a pretty wild offer. Curious as to the thoughts. I’d be dumping a couple old guys, but I also have a great playoff window.

I give: Saquon, Henry, Adams, Ridley, 2026 late second.

I get: Malik, 2026 early first, Kamara, Jaylen Warren, Otton 2026 4th
 
I made an offer for Malik, and got countered with a pretty wild offer. Curious as to the thoughts. I’d be dumping a couple old guys, but I also have a great playoff window.

I give: Saquon, Henry, Adams, Ridley, 2026 late second.

I get: Malik, 2026 early first, Kamara, Jaylen Warren, Otton 2026 4th
In a win now position that might be too costly for me. Yeah you unload 3 aging assets but you get 1 back
It’s not a horrible offer but I would rather go for the 🏆
 
I made an offer for Malik, and got countered with a pretty wild offer. Curious as to the thoughts. I’d be dumping a couple old guys, but I also have a great playoff window.

I give: Saquon, Henry, Adams, Ridley, 2026 late second.

I get: Malik, 2026 early first, Kamara, Jaylen Warren, Otton 2026 4th
This is at least a free early 1st. I’d smash this then decide if I want to compete with what I have or send that early 1st for another stud.
 
I made an offer for Malik, and got countered with a pretty wild offer. Curious as to the thoughts. I’d be dumping a couple old guys, but I also have a great playoff window.

I give: Saquon, Henry, Adams, Ridley, 2026 late second.

I get: Malik, 2026 early first, Kamara, Jaylen Warren, Otton 2026 4th
In a win now position that might be too costly for me. Yeah you unload 3 aging assets but you get 1 back
It’s not a horrible offer but I would rather go for the 🏆
I’d still have:

Achane, ARSB, JSN, Harvey, and Evans. Adding a first and Nabors to that sure is appealing
 
I made an offer for Malik, and got countered with a pretty wild offer. Curious as to the thoughts. I’d be dumping a couple old guys, but I also have a great playoff window.

I give: Saquon, Henry, Adams, Ridley, 2026 late second.

I get: Malik, 2026 early first, Kamara, Jaylen Warren, Otton 2026 4th
This is at least a free early 1st. I’d smash this then decide if I want to compete with what I have or send that early 1st for another stud.
That’s sort of how I’m feeling
 
Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.

Wow, I can’t help but throw a bucket of ice water on that. Nobody is taking Godwin and Javonte Williams for a WR1.

Things don’t move that much in four weeks. Godwin is thirty and still recovering from serious surgery. He’s also taking snaps wide when his specialty is the slot. JW looks aight but not incredible nor does one have any faith in his ability to last the year, never mind have faith in his long term prospects.

I don’t think I’d counter offer. I think Jeanty and Hampton are so valuable I wouldn’t offer for them out of fear of insulting you, but Judkins, although maybe a reach, would be the thing that got it done without Godwin. But the gap between Judkins and Jav Williams is vast.

I’m trying to be as fair as I can be. Judkins for a WR1 is about right. Godwin is overkill and Jeanty and Hampton are frankly worth a bunch more then the unpredictable WR landscape.
I mean, that might be true, but why come out the gate like that?

Godwin + JaWill is a solid opening salvo to an upgrade from Godwin. Maybe the target is a borderline WR1. Maybe it’s a gamble on buying Jameson Williams on the dip? And if a couple opening offers go nowhere, then upgrade to one of the younger backs.

Like John Cleese said in The Meaning of Life, “what’s wrong with a kiss, boy?”

Ah, I totally dig it. Heh. My reasoning for doing that encompassed a few things. First of all, I just wanted to drill down to the value.

And my second reason is a bit more in-depth, and explained below.

I have to say you make a good point about the gate and the dance, but here's where we might differ a bit. It's truly temperamental. I loathe negotiating or the art of the deal. I'm uncomfortable with it because I find the process too adversarial, too ungenerous, and too many people try and take advantage of goodwill and good-natured, fair dealing. When I catch that this is happening, it drives me up a wall and it can ruin my mood. I then have to cool myself down so that I don't take what I consider to be lousy offers in a personal way. i get this way because I think a lot of experienced players know that there's a pretty defined market value for a player at that particular moment.

But that's not a great assumption I'm making. Some people do not know market value at all and I've dealt with them recently. They just have a different way of valuing guys. And I will say that once I find that out, I'm actually totally cool with their process and their thoughts. It's when the guys I know damn well know better try to get over that I actually get a touch peeved.

So it really stems from that. You guys know Godwin and Javonte aren't fair exchange for a clear WR1. At least that's my perception of it. Heh. So it could be wrong. But that's where coming out of the gate like that comes from. I had a guy in one of my leagues whom I made easy, fair deals with. We just would contact the other and it was done so easily with little hassle. I think he wound up with a really good deal from me one time and I wound up with a cheaper 1.01 than market (he sent the offer), which wound up really favoring me. But yeah, we built good teams that way. I miss being on the same page like that.

Oh well. Such is trading, FF, and life.
Ended up getting my WR1. Definitely more complex than Javonte/Godwin.

Gave: BTJ, Warren, Javonte, 26 3rd

Got: Chase, Laporta, 2026 1st (likely mid)

First ever share of Chase and I'm excited to have Addison and Godwin as my wr2 and wr3.

It took a few weeks of friendly back and forth to get the deal done, but I think both of us are happy with the deal.
 
Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.

Wow, I can’t help but throw a bucket of ice water on that. Nobody is taking Godwin and Javonte Williams for a WR1.

Things don’t move that much in four weeks. Godwin is thirty and still recovering from serious surgery. He’s also taking snaps wide when his specialty is the slot. JW looks aight but not incredible nor does one have any faith in his ability to last the year, never mind have faith in his long term prospects.

I don’t think I’d counter offer. I think Jeanty and Hampton are so valuable I wouldn’t offer for them out of fear of insulting you, but Judkins, although maybe a reach, would be the thing that got it done without Godwin. But the gap between Judkins and Jav Williams is vast.

I’m trying to be as fair as I can be. Judkins for a WR1 is about right. Godwin is overkill and Jeanty and Hampton are frankly worth a bunch more then the unpredictable WR landscape.
I mean, that might be true, but why come out the gate like that?

Godwin + JaWill is a solid opening salvo to an upgrade from Godwin. Maybe the target is a borderline WR1. Maybe it’s a gamble on buying Jameson Williams on the dip? And if a couple opening offers go nowhere, then upgrade to one of the younger backs.

Like John Cleese said in The Meaning of Life, “what’s wrong with a kiss, boy?”

Ah, I totally dig it. Heh. My reasoning for doing that encompassed a few things. First of all, I just wanted to drill down to the value.

And my second reason is a bit more in-depth, and explained below.

I have to say you make a good point about the gate and the dance, but here's where we might differ a bit. It's truly temperamental. I loathe negotiating or the art of the deal. I'm uncomfortable with it because I find the process too adversarial, too ungenerous, and too many people try and take advantage of goodwill and good-natured, fair dealing. When I catch that this is happening, it drives me up a wall and it can ruin my mood. I then have to cool myself down so that I don't take what I consider to be lousy offers in a personal way. i get this way because I think a lot of experienced players know that there's a pretty defined market value for a player at that particular moment.

But that's not a great assumption I'm making. Some people do not know market value at all and I've dealt with them recently. They just have a different way of valuing guys. And I will say that once I find that out, I'm actually totally cool with their process and their thoughts. It's when the guys I know damn well know better try to get over that I actually get a touch peeved.

So it really stems from that. You guys know Godwin and Javonte aren't fair exchange for a clear WR1. At least that's my perception of it. Heh. So it could be wrong. But that's where coming out of the gate like that comes from. I had a guy in one of my leagues whom I made easy, fair deals with. We just would contact the other and it was done so easily with little hassle. I think he wound up with a really good deal from me one time and I wound up with a cheaper 1.01 than market (he sent the offer), which wound up really favoring me. But yeah, we built good teams that way. I miss being on the same page like that.

Oh well. Such is trading, FF, and life.
Ended up getting my WR1. Definitely more complex than Javonte/Godwin.

Gave: BTJ, Warren, Javonte, 26 3rd

Got: Chase, Laporta, 2026 1st (likely mid)

First ever share of Chase and I'm excited to have Addison and Godwin as my wr2 and wr3.

It took a few weeks of friendly back and forth to get the deal done, but I think both of us are happy with the deal.
That’s a really good deal. I still believe in BTJ, but huge upgrade to Chase, and didn’t have to give up one of the 3 young RB. Bravo.
 
Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.

Wow, I can’t help but throw a bucket of ice water on that. Nobody is taking Godwin and Javonte Williams for a WR1.

Things don’t move that much in four weeks. Godwin is thirty and still recovering from serious surgery. He’s also taking snaps wide when his specialty is the slot. JW looks aight but not incredible nor does one have any faith in his ability to last the year, never mind have faith in his long term prospects.

I don’t think I’d counter offer. I think Jeanty and Hampton are so valuable I wouldn’t offer for them out of fear of insulting you, but Judkins, although maybe a reach, would be the thing that got it done without Godwin. But the gap between Judkins and Jav Williams is vast.

I’m trying to be as fair as I can be. Judkins for a WR1 is about right. Godwin is overkill and Jeanty and Hampton are frankly worth a bunch more then the unpredictable WR landscape.
I mean, that might be true, but why come out the gate like that?

Godwin + JaWill is a solid opening salvo to an upgrade from Godwin. Maybe the target is a borderline WR1. Maybe it’s a gamble on buying Jameson Williams on the dip? And if a couple opening offers go nowhere, then upgrade to one of the younger backs.

Like John Cleese said in The Meaning of Life, “what’s wrong with a kiss, boy?”

Ah, I totally dig it. Heh. My reasoning for doing that encompassed a few things. First of all, I just wanted to drill down to the value.

And my second reason is a bit more in-depth, and explained below.

I have to say you make a good point about the gate and the dance, but here's where we might differ a bit. It's truly temperamental. I loathe negotiating or the art of the deal. I'm uncomfortable with it because I find the process too adversarial, too ungenerous, and too many people try and take advantage of goodwill and good-natured, fair dealing. When I catch that this is happening, it drives me up a wall and it can ruin my mood. I then have to cool myself down so that I don't take what I consider to be lousy offers in a personal way. i get this way because I think a lot of experienced players know that there's a pretty defined market value for a player at that particular moment.

But that's not a great assumption I'm making. Some people do not know market value at all and I've dealt with them recently. They just have a different way of valuing guys. And I will say that once I find that out, I'm actually totally cool with their process and their thoughts. It's when the guys I know damn well know better try to get over that I actually get a touch peeved.

So it really stems from that. You guys know Godwin and Javonte aren't fair exchange for a clear WR1. At least that's my perception of it. Heh. So it could be wrong. But that's where coming out of the gate like that comes from. I had a guy in one of my leagues whom I made easy, fair deals with. We just would contact the other and it was done so easily with little hassle. I think he wound up with a really good deal from me one time and I wound up with a cheaper 1.01 than market (he sent the offer), which wound up really favoring me. But yeah, we built good teams that way. I miss being on the same page like that.

Oh well. Such is trading, FF, and life.
Ended up getting my WR1. Definitely more complex than Javonte/Godwin.

Gave: BTJ, Warren, Javonte, 26 3rd

Got: Chase, Laporta, 2026 1st (likely mid)

First ever share of Chase and I'm excited to have Addison and Godwin as my wr2 and wr3.

It took a few weeks of friendly back and forth to get the deal done, but I think both of us are happy with the deal.
Free 1st.
Yeah, I’m also kinda wondering how a 1st came back to you in this. That’s wild.
 
Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.

Wow, I can’t help but throw a bucket of ice water on that. Nobody is taking Godwin and Javonte Williams for a WR1.

Things don’t move that much in four weeks. Godwin is thirty and still recovering from serious surgery. He’s also taking snaps wide when his specialty is the slot. JW looks aight but not incredible nor does one have any faith in his ability to last the year, never mind have faith in his long term prospects.

I don’t think I’d counter offer. I think Jeanty and Hampton are so valuable I wouldn’t offer for them out of fear of insulting you, but Judkins, although maybe a reach, would be the thing that got it done without Godwin. But the gap between Judkins and Jav Williams is vast.

I’m trying to be as fair as I can be. Judkins for a WR1 is about right. Godwin is overkill and Jeanty and Hampton are frankly worth a bunch more then the unpredictable WR landscape.
I mean, that might be true, but why come out the gate like that?

Godwin + JaWill is a solid opening salvo to an upgrade from Godwin. Maybe the target is a borderline WR1. Maybe it’s a gamble on buying Jameson Williams on the dip? And if a couple opening offers go nowhere, then upgrade to one of the younger backs.

Like John Cleese said in The Meaning of Life, “what’s wrong with a kiss, boy?”

Ah, I totally dig it. Heh. My reasoning for doing that encompassed a few things. First of all, I just wanted to drill down to the value.

And my second reason is a bit more in-depth, and explained below.

I have to say you make a good point about the gate and the dance, but here's where we might differ a bit. It's truly temperamental. I loathe negotiating or the art of the deal. I'm uncomfortable with it because I find the process too adversarial, too ungenerous, and too many people try and take advantage of goodwill and good-natured, fair dealing. When I catch that this is happening, it drives me up a wall and it can ruin my mood. I then have to cool myself down so that I don't take what I consider to be lousy offers in a personal way. i get this way because I think a lot of experienced players know that there's a pretty defined market value for a player at that particular moment.

But that's not a great assumption I'm making. Some people do not know market value at all and I've dealt with them recently. They just have a different way of valuing guys. And I will say that once I find that out, I'm actually totally cool with their process and their thoughts. It's when the guys I know damn well know better try to get over that I actually get a touch peeved.

So it really stems from that. You guys know Godwin and Javonte aren't fair exchange for a clear WR1. At least that's my perception of it. Heh. So it could be wrong. But that's where coming out of the gate like that comes from. I had a guy in one of my leagues whom I made easy, fair deals with. We just would contact the other and it was done so easily with little hassle. I think he wound up with a really good deal from me one time and I wound up with a cheaper 1.01 than market (he sent the offer), which wound up really favoring me. But yeah, we built good teams that way. I miss being on the same page like that.

Oh well. Such is trading, FF, and life.
Ended up getting my WR1. Definitely more complex than Javonte/Godwin.

Gave: BTJ, Warren, Javonte, 26 3rd

Got: Chase, Laporta, 2026 1st (likely mid)

First ever share of Chase and I'm excited to have Addison and Godwin as my wr2 and wr3.

It took a few weeks of friendly back and forth to get the deal done, but I think both of us are happy with the deal.
Free 1st.
Yeah, I’m also kinda wondering how a 1st came back to you in this. That’s wild.

Not a good trade for the other guy. He must be really be win-now.
 
I made an offer for Malik, and got countered with a pretty wild offer. Curious as to the thoughts. I’d be dumping a couple old guys, but I also have a great playoff window.

I give: Saquon, Henry, Adams, Ridley, 2026 late second.

I get: Malik, 2026 early first, Kamara, Jaylen Warren, Otton 2026 4th
This is at least a free early 1st. I’d smash this then decide if I want to compete with what I have or send that early 1st for another stud.
That’s sort of how I’m feeling
I accepted. Done deal!
 
How affordable do you think Kittle is if he's on a bad team who has no chance to win this season? Non TE premium
His value isn’t tied to the record of the FF team. His value is his value. There’s no reason for the Kittle owner to sell below market value. If anything with the dearth of FF-relevant TE, the owner should be maximizing profit.
 
Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.

Wow, I can’t help but throw a bucket of ice water on that. Nobody is taking Godwin and Javonte Williams for a WR1.

Things don’t move that much in four weeks. Godwin is thirty and still recovering from serious surgery. He’s also taking snaps wide when his specialty is the slot. JW looks aight but not incredible nor does one have any faith in his ability to last the year, never mind have faith in his long term prospects.

I don’t think I’d counter offer. I think Jeanty and Hampton are so valuable I wouldn’t offer for them out of fear of insulting you, but Judkins, although maybe a reach, would be the thing that got it done without Godwin. But the gap between Judkins and Jav Williams is vast.

I’m trying to be as fair as I can be. Judkins for a WR1 is about right. Godwin is overkill and Jeanty and Hampton are frankly worth a bunch more then the unpredictable WR landscape.
I mean, that might be true, but why come out the gate like that?

Godwin + JaWill is a solid opening salvo to an upgrade from Godwin. Maybe the target is a borderline WR1. Maybe it’s a gamble on buying Jameson Williams on the dip? And if a couple opening offers go nowhere, then upgrade to one of the younger backs.

Like John Cleese said in The Meaning of Life, “what’s wrong with a kiss, boy?”

Ah, I totally dig it. Heh. My reasoning for doing that encompassed a few things. First of all, I just wanted to drill down to the value.

And my second reason is a bit more in-depth, and explained below.

I have to say you make a good point about the gate and the dance, but here's where we might differ a bit. It's truly temperamental. I loathe negotiating or the art of the deal. I'm uncomfortable with it because I find the process too adversarial, too ungenerous, and too many people try and take advantage of goodwill and good-natured, fair dealing. When I catch that this is happening, it drives me up a wall and it can ruin my mood. I then have to cool myself down so that I don't take what I consider to be lousy offers in a personal way. i get this way because I think a lot of experienced players know that there's a pretty defined market value for a player at that particular moment.

But that's not a great assumption I'm making. Some people do not know market value at all and I've dealt with them recently. They just have a different way of valuing guys. And I will say that once I find that out, I'm actually totally cool with their process and their thoughts. It's when the guys I know damn well know better try to get over that I actually get a touch peeved.

So it really stems from that. You guys know Godwin and Javonte aren't fair exchange for a clear WR1. At least that's my perception of it. Heh. So it could be wrong. But that's where coming out of the gate like that comes from. I had a guy in one of my leagues whom I made easy, fair deals with. We just would contact the other and it was done so easily with little hassle. I think he wound up with a really good deal from me one time and I wound up with a cheaper 1.01 than market (he sent the offer), which wound up really favoring me. But yeah, we built good teams that way. I miss being on the same page like that.

Oh well. Such is trading, FF, and life.
Ended up getting my WR1. Definitely more complex than Javonte/Godwin.

Gave: BTJ, Warren, Javonte, 26 3rd

Got: Chase, Laporta, 2026 1st (likely mid)

First ever share of Chase and I'm excited to have Addison and Godwin as my wr2 and wr3.

It took a few weeks of friendly back and forth to get the deal done, but I think both of us are happy with the deal.
Free 1st.
Yeah, I’m also kinda wondering how a 1st came back to you in this. That’s wild.

Not a good trade for the other guy. He must be really be win-now.
He is. Also replying to add that the Warren in question was Tyler Warren if it wasn't readily apparent (it wasn't in the Dynasty trades thread). Maybe that changes things a bit?
 
Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.

Wow, I can’t help but throw a bucket of ice water on that. Nobody is taking Godwin and Javonte Williams for a WR1.

Things don’t move that much in four weeks. Godwin is thirty and still recovering from serious surgery. He’s also taking snaps wide when his specialty is the slot. JW looks aight but not incredible nor does one have any faith in his ability to last the year, never mind have faith in his long term prospects.

I don’t think I’d counter offer. I think Jeanty and Hampton are so valuable I wouldn’t offer for them out of fear of insulting you, but Judkins, although maybe a reach, would be the thing that got it done without Godwin. But the gap between Judkins and Jav Williams is vast.

I’m trying to be as fair as I can be. Judkins for a WR1 is about right. Godwin is overkill and Jeanty and Hampton are frankly worth a bunch more then the unpredictable WR landscape.
I mean, that might be true, but why come out the gate like that?

Godwin + JaWill is a solid opening salvo to an upgrade from Godwin. Maybe the target is a borderline WR1. Maybe it’s a gamble on buying Jameson Williams on the dip? And if a couple opening offers go nowhere, then upgrade to one of the younger backs.

Like John Cleese said in The Meaning of Life, “what’s wrong with a kiss, boy?”

Ah, I totally dig it. Heh. My reasoning for doing that encompassed a few things. First of all, I just wanted to drill down to the value.

And my second reason is a bit more in-depth, and explained below.

I have to say you make a good point about the gate and the dance, but here's where we might differ a bit. It's truly temperamental. I loathe negotiating or the art of the deal. I'm uncomfortable with it because I find the process too adversarial, too ungenerous, and too many people try and take advantage of goodwill and good-natured, fair dealing. When I catch that this is happening, it drives me up a wall and it can ruin my mood. I then have to cool myself down so that I don't take what I consider to be lousy offers in a personal way. i get this way because I think a lot of experienced players know that there's a pretty defined market value for a player at that particular moment.

But that's not a great assumption I'm making. Some people do not know market value at all and I've dealt with them recently. They just have a different way of valuing guys. And I will say that once I find that out, I'm actually totally cool with their process and their thoughts. It's when the guys I know damn well know better try to get over that I actually get a touch peeved.

So it really stems from that. You guys know Godwin and Javonte aren't fair exchange for a clear WR1. At least that's my perception of it. Heh. So it could be wrong. But that's where coming out of the gate like that comes from. I had a guy in one of my leagues whom I made easy, fair deals with. We just would contact the other and it was done so easily with little hassle. I think he wound up with a really good deal from me one time and I wound up with a cheaper 1.01 than market (he sent the offer), which wound up really favoring me. But yeah, we built good teams that way. I miss being on the same page like that.

Oh well. Such is trading, FF, and life.
Ended up getting my WR1. Definitely more complex than Javonte/Godwin.

Gave: BTJ, Warren, Javonte, 26 3rd

Got: Chase, Laporta, 2026 1st (likely mid)

First ever share of Chase and I'm excited to have Addison and Godwin as my wr2 and wr3.

It took a few weeks of friendly back and forth to get the deal done, but I think both of us are happy with the deal.
Free 1st.
Yeah, I’m also kinda wondering how a 1st came back to you in this. That’s wild.

Not a good trade for the other guy. He must be really be win-now.
He is. Also replying to add that the Warren in question was Tyler Warren if it wasn't readily apparent (it wasn't in the Dynasty trades thread). Maybe that changes things a bit?

Oh, jeez. Yeah, you might say that. It very much changes it. Is it TE Prem?

I'm still on a two-name basis with the rookies.
 
Strong rebuild in a 12 team 1QB start 9 (QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF, 3Flex)

Was lucky enough to draft Jeanty, Hampton and Judkins and picked up Javonte late, so as of week 4, I have a pretty strong RB room.

WR room is less than ideal. Addison, BTJr, Godwin, Olave and Golden. All decent, none stand out.

I'm considering trading one of the rookie RBs and an Addison or Godwin for a WR1.

Using your own crystal ball, which of two of the three RBs would you be more inclined to trade and which WR would you target?
Personally I’d look to package JaWill + Godwin.

Addison is too young/good to move for an upgrade as I believe he’s still on an upward career trajectory, and why move a rookie when you can sell high on JaWill?
JaWill + Godwin isn't a bad move if he isn't contending. A contending team could likely use both of those guys. JaWill's hype is building. One league I'm defending champ so I'm running with him but not a bad idea to sell if you aren't contending.

Wow, I can’t help but throw a bucket of ice water on that. Nobody is taking Godwin and Javonte Williams for a WR1.

Things don’t move that much in four weeks. Godwin is thirty and still recovering from serious surgery. He’s also taking snaps wide when his specialty is the slot. JW looks aight but not incredible nor does one have any faith in his ability to last the year, never mind have faith in his long term prospects.

I don’t think I’d counter offer. I think Jeanty and Hampton are so valuable I wouldn’t offer for them out of fear of insulting you, but Judkins, although maybe a reach, would be the thing that got it done without Godwin. But the gap between Judkins and Jav Williams is vast.

I’m trying to be as fair as I can be. Judkins for a WR1 is about right. Godwin is overkill and Jeanty and Hampton are frankly worth a bunch more then the unpredictable WR landscape.
I mean, that might be true, but why come out the gate like that?

Godwin + JaWill is a solid opening salvo to an upgrade from Godwin. Maybe the target is a borderline WR1. Maybe it’s a gamble on buying Jameson Williams on the dip? And if a couple opening offers go nowhere, then upgrade to one of the younger backs.

Like John Cleese said in The Meaning of Life, “what’s wrong with a kiss, boy?”

Ah, I totally dig it. Heh. My reasoning for doing that encompassed a few things. First of all, I just wanted to drill down to the value.

And my second reason is a bit more in-depth, and explained below.

I have to say you make a good point about the gate and the dance, but here's where we might differ a bit. It's truly temperamental. I loathe negotiating or the art of the deal. I'm uncomfortable with it because I find the process too adversarial, too ungenerous, and too many people try and take advantage of goodwill and good-natured, fair dealing. When I catch that this is happening, it drives me up a wall and it can ruin my mood. I then have to cool myself down so that I don't take what I consider to be lousy offers in a personal way. i get this way because I think a lot of experienced players know that there's a pretty defined market value for a player at that particular moment.

But that's not a great assumption I'm making. Some people do not know market value at all and I've dealt with them recently. They just have a different way of valuing guys. And I will say that once I find that out, I'm actually totally cool with their process and their thoughts. It's when the guys I know damn well know better try to get over that I actually get a touch peeved.

So it really stems from that. You guys know Godwin and Javonte aren't fair exchange for a clear WR1. At least that's my perception of it. Heh. So it could be wrong. But that's where coming out of the gate like that comes from. I had a guy in one of my leagues whom I made easy, fair deals with. We just would contact the other and it was done so easily with little hassle. I think he wound up with a really good deal from me one time and I wound up with a cheaper 1.01 than market (he sent the offer), which wound up really favoring me. But yeah, we built good teams that way. I miss being on the same page like that.

Oh well. Such is trading, FF, and life.
Ended up getting my WR1. Definitely more complex than Javonte/Godwin.

Gave: BTJ, Warren, Javonte, 26 3rd

Got: Chase, Laporta, 2026 1st (likely mid)

First ever share of Chase and I'm excited to have Addison and Godwin as my wr2 and wr3.

It took a few weeks of friendly back and forth to get the deal done, but I think both of us are happy with the deal.
Free 1st.
Yeah, I’m also kinda wondering how a 1st came back to you in this. That’s wild.

Not a good trade for the other guy. He must be really be win-now.
He is. Also replying to add that the Warren in question was Tyler Warren if it wasn't readily apparent (it wasn't in the Dynasty trades thread). Maybe that changes things a bit?

Oh, jeez. Yeah, you might say that. It very much changes it. Is it TE Prem?

I'm still on a two-name basis with the rookies.
Lol. Yeah, it's a small TEP (+.5ppr), but it is a TEP.
 
I could really use some advice on what to do with this team:

12-team, Super Flex, PPR
9 Starters: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1TE, 1 F, 1 SF
14 bench spots so FA are sparse and nobody has ample depth on their rosters
Last year I finished 3rd, the year before 5th, but got bounced in the first playoff matchup both times.
Currently I am 2-2, 8th in points scored, 30 points out of 5th.
I have a glaring weakness at QB. I have tried to upgrade with offers to rebuilding (Ward+) and vet teams (Geno+) but nobody is budging.
I feel my window is closing and I either roll with what I have again or blow this whole thing up. Leaning towards blowing it up.

Notable players
QB: S. Bradford, Geno, C. Ward
RB: S. Barkley, J. Dobbins, W. Marks, O. Gordon, R. White
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, D. Metcalf, D. Moore
TE: T. Kelce, D. Waller, E. Arroyo
 
I could really use some advice on what to do with this team:

12-team, Super Flex, PPR
9 Starters: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1TE, 1 F, 1 SF
14 bench spots so FA are sparse and nobody has ample depth on their rosters
Last year I finished 3rd, the year before 5th, but got bounced in the first playoff matchup both times.
Currently I am 2-2, 8th in points scored, 30 points out of 5th.
I have a glaring weakness at QB. I have tried to upgrade with offers to rebuilding (Ward+) and vet teams (Geno+) but nobody is budging.
I feel my window is closing and I either roll with what I have again or blow this whole thing up. Leaning towards blowing it up.

Notable players
QB: S. Bradford, Geno, C. Ward
RB: S. Barkley, J. Dobbins, W. Marks, O. Gordon, R. White
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, D. Metcalf, D. Moore
TE: T. Kelce, D. Waller, E. Arroyo
I would start by dropping Sam Bradford.
 
I could really use some advice on what to do with this team:

12-team, Super Flex, PPR
9 Starters: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1TE, 1 F, 1 SF
14 bench spots so FA are sparse and nobody has ample depth on their rosters
Last year I finished 3rd, the year before 5th, but got bounced in the first playoff matchup both times.
Currently I am 2-2, 8th in points scored, 30 points out of 5th.
I have a glaring weakness at QB. I have tried to upgrade with offers to rebuilding (Ward+) and vet teams (Geno+) but nobody is budging.
I feel my window is closing and I either roll with what I have again or blow this whole thing up. Leaning towards blowing it up.

Notable players
QB: S. Bradford, Geno, C. Ward
RB: S. Barkley, J. Dobbins, W. Marks, O. Gordon, R. White
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, D. Metcalf, D. Moore
TE: T. Kelce, D. Waller, E. Arroyo
2nd vote to rebuild. Geno, Barkley and Dobbins are a good place to start gathering picks. The 2026 draft is supposed to be strong at QB, that's a good place to start.
 
I could really use some advice on what to do with this team:

12-team, Super Flex, PPR
9 Starters: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1TE, 1 F, 1 SF
14 bench spots so FA are sparse and nobody has ample depth on their rosters
Last year I finished 3rd, the year before 5th, but got bounced in the first playoff matchup both times.
Currently I am 2-2, 8th in points scored, 30 points out of 5th.
I have a glaring weakness at QB. I have tried to upgrade with offers to rebuilding (Ward+) and vet teams (Geno+) but nobody is budging.
I feel my window is closing and I either roll with what I have again or blow this whole thing up. Leaning towards blowing it up.

Notable players
QB: S. Bradford, Geno, C. Ward
RB: S. Barkley, J. Dobbins, W. Marks, O. Gordon, R. White
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, D. Metcalf, D. Moore
TE: T. Kelce, D. Waller, E. Arroyo
I would start by dropping Sam Bradford.
We get points for retired QB's. Was supposed to be S. Darnold.
 
Notable players
QB: S. Bradford, Geno, C. Ward
RB: S. Barkley, J. Dobbins, W. Marks, O. Gordon, R. White
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, D. Metcalf, D. Moore
TE: T. Kelce, D. Waller, E. Arroyo
I’m assuming that’s Darnold or Goff at QB?

I’d push forward this year. Maybe try to sell Kelce for another RB since you don’t have much behind your top 3.
 
I could really use some advice on what to do with this team:

12-team, Super Flex, PPR
9 Starters: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1TE, 1 F, 1 SF
14 bench spots so FA are sparse and nobody has ample depth on their rosters
Last year I finished 3rd, the year before 5th, but got bounced in the first playoff matchup both times.
Currently I am 2-2, 8th in points scored, 30 points out of 5th.
I have a glaring weakness at QB. I have tried to upgrade with offers to rebuilding (Ward+) and vet teams (Geno+) but nobody is budging.
I feel my window is closing and I either roll with what I have again or blow this whole thing up. Leaning towards blowing it up.

Notable players
QB: S. Bradford, Geno, C. Ward
RB: S. Barkley, J. Dobbins, W. Marks, O. Gordon, R. White
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, D. Metcalf, D. Moore
TE: T. Kelce, D. Waller, E. Arroyo
This looks like a rebuild if the next few weeks don't go well. I assume you still own your first round pick? That is key here and you should look to acquire it if you haven't already (before you show you might be in a rebuild).

You might be able to squeeze out a few wins now that White is assumed the lead guy with Irving out. No reason to throw in the towel yet but good you are thinking about options.

Even some smaller deals like trading Waller to a TE needy team for a draft pick can get you easy wins. Then you can use that extra draft pick to sweeten a deal or if you do rebuild you have more shots in the draft.

Same with White - you can use and play him or sell him to the Bucky owner for a higher cost if he is really hurting for RBs and a contender.

I say hold for now but be ready to pivot if you struggle the next 3 weeks or so - depending when your trade deadline is.
 
Was offered a late 1st and early 2nd for BTJ this morning. Sorely tempted. Value check out there on this kid? Seems to have all the talent in the world, but is severely shellshocked at the moment.
 
Was offered a late 1st and early 2nd for BTJ this morning. Sorely tempted. Value check out there on this kid? Seems to have all the talent in the world, but is severely shellshocked at the moment.
Personally, I would be a buyer of Thomas at that price. Still a young, talented receiver learning the game.
I agree. Anyone bailing on Thomas for a 1st and 2nd is not thinking correctly from a dynasty perspective. You only hope you can draft a player as good as Thomas is with those two dart throw picks.
 
Well, the blockbuster ideas are sunk -dude doesn’t wanna move picks.

But he floated this (12-team dynasty SF):
My Jacobs+Mason
For
Egbuka+Tuten

It’s super tempting but would leave me pretty thin at RB. Like Chuba, Stevenson, Tuten, & Spears as my RB4.

My WR room would be BTJ, Wilson, Rice (in a few weeks), Jamo, and Egbuka.
Without Jacobs, you don't have a legit RB1. Dude is still only 27, in his prime, and on a great offense. I'd hold.
Yeah, I slept on it and I’m leaning against it.

If I had confidence that Tuten and/or Allgeier would be FF relevant next year I’d probably do it. I usually prefer building around WRs, and I do think the Jacobs for Egbuka part is pretty close.
Just reading this. I would have taken the deal. I like all 4 players and like you I prefer to build around WR's. But I see the other side too. I might have looked to move one of your WR's for a RB after, depending on how many WR & RB you can start.
 
Well, the blockbuster ideas are sunk -dude doesn’t wanna move picks.

But he floated this (12-team dynasty SF):
My Jacobs+Mason
For
Egbuka+Tuten

It’s super tempting but would leave me pretty thin at RB. Like Chuba, Stevenson, Tuten, & Spears as my RB4.

My WR room would be BTJ, Wilson, Rice (in a few weeks), Jamo, and Egbuka.
Without Jacobs, you don't have a legit RB1. Dude is still only 27, in his prime, and on a great offense. I'd hold.
Yeah, I slept on it and I’m leaning against it.

If I had confidence that Tuten and/or Allgeier would be FF relevant next year I’d probably do it. I usually prefer building around WRs, and I do think the Jacobs for Egbuka part is pretty close.
Just reading this. I would have taken the deal. I like all 4 players and like you I prefer to build around WR's. But I see the other side too. I might have looked to move one of your WR's for a RB after, depending on how many WR & RB you can start.
Just reading it as well and tbh I'd have smash accepted it.
 
Well, the blockbuster ideas are sunk -dude doesn’t wanna move picks.

But he floated this (12-team dynasty SF):
My Jacobs+Mason
For
Egbuka+Tuten

It’s super tempting but would leave me pretty thin at RB. Like Chuba, Stevenson, Tuten, & Spears as my RB4.

My WR room would be BTJ, Wilson, Rice (in a few weeks), Jamo, and Egbuka.
Without Jacobs, you don't have a legit RB1. Dude is still only 27, in his prime, and on a great offense. I'd hold.
Yeah, I slept on it and I’m leaning against it.

If I had confidence that Tuten and/or Allgeier would be FF relevant next year I’d probably do it. I usually prefer building around WRs, and I do think the Jacobs for Egbuka part is pretty close.
Just reading this. I would have taken the deal. I like all 4 players and like you I prefer to build around WR's. But I see the other side too. I might have looked to move one of your WR's for a RB after, depending on how many WR & RB you can start.
Just reading it as well and tbh I'd have smash accepted it.

Ditto. I am taking the young cornerstone WR here.
 
Well, the blockbuster ideas are sunk -dude doesn’t wanna move picks.

But he floated this (12-team dynasty SF):
My Jacobs+Mason
For
Egbuka+Tuten

It’s super tempting but would leave me pretty thin at RB. Like Chuba, Stevenson, Tuten, & Spears as my RB4.

My WR room would be BTJ, Wilson, Rice (in a few weeks), Jamo, and Egbuka.
Without Jacobs, you don't have a legit RB1. Dude is still only 27, in his prime, and on a great offense. I'd hold.
Yeah, I slept on it and I’m leaning against it.

If I had confidence that Tuten and/or Allgeier would be FF relevant next year I’d probably do it. I usually prefer building around WRs, and I do think the Jacobs for Egbuka part is pretty close.
Just reading this. I would have taken the deal. I like all 4 players and like you I prefer to build around WR's. But I see the other side too. I might have looked to move one of your WR's for a RB after, depending on how many WR & RB you can start.
Just reading it as well and tbh I'd have smash accepted it.

Ditto. I am taking the young cornerstone WR here.
Yeah, well that train has probably sailed.
 
12 team TEP PPR, no D/ST start 10 format

Drafted well in the start-up but have had horrific schedule luck, 3x facing top team of the week to go 1-4. My TEs are Mason Taylor, Theo Johnson, and Fergusen & a competing team wants one of em.

I think my team is poised for a run next year, but I’m considering offering Ferguson + Devonte Smith for hurt Nabers.

My current WR room is Lamb, Deebo, DeSmith, AJB, DJM, Jamo and Calvin Austin.

I have no idea how to value Nabers fresh off the ACL, but I feel like this should be close? Might even offer DJM+TE. After losing Nabers, dude needs a WR, and he’s desperate for a TE.

Your thoughts on Nabers post-injury value? Is this an overpay? A Lowball?
:shrug:
 
I am trying to decide to accept an offer as I am torn between a rebuild or acquiring a stud
I was a top team (never won)but got old over the last couple of years so blew it up
14 team 24 man roster dynasty
Start 1 qb , 1-2 rb, 3-4 wr , 1-2 te 1 k 1 def
rb .25 ppr
wr and te .5 ppr
rushing and receiving yards .1 for every 1 yard
6 pts for a td

I get
Justin Jefferson
I give
2026 1st (currently 1.1 and its the teams trading jj) ,2026 1st (mine & could be 1.4-1.10) and my 2027 1st
I would have no 2026 1sts and no 2026 2nds but still 1 2027 1st and 2 2027 2nds

my line up would be
Herbert
Hampton so woods or haskins while on IR
Achane
Jefferson (currently starting marquis brown)
Lamb (currently starting Kayshon Boutte)
Rice (currently starting jayden higgins)
Jake ferguson

I am the 4th lowest scoring team at this point of the season on average
 
I get
Justin Jefferson
I give
2026 1st (currently 1.1 and its the teams trading jj) ,2026 1st (mine & could be 1.4-1.10) and my 2027 1st
I would have no 2026 1sts and no 2026 2nds but still 1 2027 1st and 2 2027 2nds

my line up would be
Herbert
Hampton so woods or haskins while on IR
Achane
Jefferson (currently starting marquis brown)
Lamb (currently starting Kayshon Boutte)
Rice (currently starting jayden higgins)
Jake ferguson

I am the 4th lowest scoring team at this point of the season on average
3 firsts for JJ, including the likely 2026 1.01? That’s a lot. Value-wise, I have it as about a 25% overpay, averaging out the resources I trust the most.

Given your lack of overall depth it might be best to use those picks. I don’t love the idea of rebuilding by consolidating 3x 1sts into any 1 player, even JJ. That’s the sort of all-in move you make if contending with an already deep roster.

Love JJ, don’t love this idea.
 
12 team TEP PPR, no D/ST start 10 format

Drafted well in the start-up but have had horrific schedule luck, 3x facing top team of the week to go 1-4. My TEs are Mason Taylor, Theo Johnson, and Fergusen & a competing team wants one of em.

I think my team is poised for a run next year, but I’m considering offering Ferguson + Devonte Smith for hurt Nabers.

My current WR room is Lamb, Deebo, DeSmith, AJB, DJM, Jamo and Calvin Austin.

I have no idea how to value Nabers fresh off the ACL, but I feel like this should be close? Might even offer DJM+TE. After losing Nabers, dude needs a WR, and he’s desperate for a TE.

Your thoughts on Nabers post-injury value? Is this an overpay? A Lowball?
:shrug:
Here's my take on Nabers and I've mentioned this in other threads.

If I'm competing, I'm selling Nabers ASAP. The reports of him being back for training camp next season are optimistic at best. Realistically he's probably back to top 3 WR form in 2027. I don't take less than full value for him right now. Even with the ACL tear, he's got name recognition and youth on his side.

If I'm not competing he's a hold. He has top 3 WR ceiling in 2027 with risk, obviously.


All that to say, I think your offer ideas boarder on lowball. Great on you if you can get it, though!
 
I get
Justin Jefferson
I give
2026 1st (currently 1.1 and its the teams trading jj) ,2026 1st (mine & could be 1.4-1.10) and my 2027 1st
I would have no 2026 1sts and no 2026 2nds but still 1 2027 1st and 2 2027 2nds

my line up would be
Herbert
Hampton so woods or haskins while on IR
Achane
Jefferson (currently starting marquis brown)
Lamb (currently starting Kayshon Boutte)
Rice (currently starting jayden higgins)
Jake ferguson

I am the 4th lowest scoring team at this point of the season on average
3 firsts for JJ, including the likely 2026 1.01? That’s a lot. Value-wise, I have it as about a 25% overpay, averaging out the resources I trust the most.

Given your lack of overall depth it might be best to use those picks. I don’t love the idea of rebuilding by consolidating 3x 1sts into any 1 player, even JJ. That’s the sort of all-in move you make if contending with an already deep roster.

Love JJ, don’t love this idea.
Agreed with HSG here. I don't love the 26 draft for 1QB leagues. At all. None of the WRs would be top 4 in the 24 class. None of the RBs would be top 4 in the 2025 class. I'm not sold the TE class is as good as the 25 class either. You're left with some good (questionable if they are great) QBs and a few better than average players. Trading away those picks is smart IMO. However, trading away a 27 first with your lack of depth is a recipe for injury dependence (which you are feeling right now).

TLDR: Move those 2026 firsts for a good young player(s) and hold on to your 27 1st to build depth.
 

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