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Fanduel Week 9 (2 Viewers)

KarmaPolice said:
Too funny.  I didn't know what people were talking about with this J.Holtan stuff until he popped in one my LUs on the IVC this morning. 

Here is my Oakheart Thurs LU as of right now:

Winston

C.West/Sproles

Julio/A.Brown/Evans

J.Graham

Lambo

Eagles

All my cash lineups are heavy and top RBs and going WRs in the 5000s, so I wanted something opposite in the gpp this week.  Figured there is unknown with both those Rbs, but they should get touches regardless and both hold 20 touch upside. 
With Ware missing practice today I am locking in West in my Thursday lineups as well.  The salary it frees up from the top guys (Zeke/Bell/Murray) and even mid guys (Booker, Freeman, Gordon) gets me up to Julio.  

 

 
KarmaPolice said:
Too funny.  I didn't know what people were talking about with this J.Holtan stuff until he popped in one my LUs on the IVC this morning. 

Here is my Oakheart Thurs LU as of right now:

Winston

C.West/Sproles

Julio/A.Brown/Evans

J.Graham

Lambo

Eagles

All my cash lineups are heavy and top RBs and going WRs in the 5000s, so I wanted something opposite in the gpp this week.  Figured there is unknown with both those Rbs, but they should get touches regardless and both hold 20 touch upside. 
Swinging for the fences as well with this Thur-Mon $5 GPP

Brees/West/Sproles/JJ/Evans/KBen/Kelce/Crosby/Seat

 
Anyone looking at Sproles for Cash?  Looks like he may take over the #1 RB role in Phily
Sproles to me is definitely on the table at least for GPP's; not sure to say about cash games although I wouldn't discount him. Given the release of WR Josh Huff now, he could, at least this week, find add'l touches in the return game in addition to more carries as the lead back.

 
Swinging for the fences as well with this Thur-Mon $5 GPP

Brees/West/Sproles/JJ/Evans/KBen/Kelce/Crosby/Seat
:thumbup:

Also staring at Henry as a boom/bust pivot from West as well since people might be more on West with Ware missing practice.  Toe injuries concern me a bit with Rbs. 

 
:thumbup:

Also staring at Henry as a boom/bust pivot from West as well since people might be more on West with Ware missing practice.  Toe injuries concern me a bit with Rbs. 
Yea I looked at DH as well but the SD run Def is better than many realize

 
Doing a GPP with:

Rodgers

Elliot

Bell

A Brown

J Jones

J. HOLTON

Doyle

Bailey

Panthers

This will probably never happen again on FD, so I gotta try this $0 WR thing this week I'll never have a super chalk team with this many studs in the future.

 
Doing a GPP with:

Rodgers

Elliot

Bell

A Brown

J Jones

J. HOLTON

Doyle

Bailey

Panthers

This will probably never happen again on FD, so I gotta try this $0 WR thing this week I'll never have a super chalk team with this many studs in the future.
Was listening to a fantasy insiders podcast today and they said how he's not viable for GPPs but cash if anything . You need every player to smash in a gpp to take it down . 

 
I think that's true when players are are $4,500 but not sure if that's true when they are $0.  This is a Black Swan event. 

Also the combination of QB+RBs+WRs = $44.7k so there's no way for any GPP players to get this combination unless they use Holton.

I've also seen a few GPP winners who have kickers that scored 1 or 2 pts.  So it's possible.

 
After going back and forth several times I think I'm going to have to fade Breese and the NO WRs.

I just see this game script playing out with Graham and Hightower running wild against a SF Def giving up 185 a game on the ground and running often also protects that weak NO def

 
No surprise but big ownership on the studs playing tonight.  Ryan 17-20%,  Evans 30-40%, Freeman 20-30%.  Didn't play him in cash, but Julio was 32% in the Squib. 

 
My Thur/Mon Cash LU got off to a pretty good start, but that's happened before, so we will see. 

Cash LU #1 - Luck-C. West-Booker-Julio (21)-Evans (32)-Antonio-Hooper (12)-Lutz-NYG 

I Almost went up to Ryan at QB and down from Booker, but didn't do it. Hooper did't crush it, but he beat value and enable me to roster the 3 stud WR's. 

Cash LU #2 - ARod-Zeke-C.West-Antonio-M. Thomas-Adams-Ebron-Lambo-SD (Pretty solid on this, only waiting to see on few things.)

Cash LU #3- Leaning toward Denver offense here, along with Bell and Ajayi at RB. But not positive on this one. 

Freeman was on my radar also for tonight, but now glad I didn't play him. He looks good, but didn't get in end zone, that hurts on FD. 

 
My Thur/Mon Cash LU got off to a pretty good start, but that's happened before, so we will see. 

Cash LU #1 - Luck-C. West-Booker-Julio (21)-Evans (32)-Antonio-Hooper (12)-Lutz-NYG 

I Almost went up to Ryan at QB and down from Booker, but didn't do it. Hooper did't crush it, but he beat value and enable me to roster the 3 stud WR's. 

Cash LU #2 - ARod-Zeke-C.West-Antonio-M. Thomas-Adams-Ebron-Lambo-SD (Pretty solid on this, only waiting to see on few things.)

Cash LU #3- Leaning toward Denver offense here, along with Bell and Ajayi at RB. But not positive on this one. 

Freeman was on my radar also for tonight, but now glad I didn't play him. He looks good, but didn't get in end zone, that hurts on FD. 
Yeah, I wish I would have stayed away.  It's one of those things where he wasn't on my list, but kept showing up in rankings and on the IVC, so I rolled with it.  Not like he laid an egg, but you would like to see a TD for him on a 43 point night for Atlanta though.  Still am going with all Rodgers and Ryan and had Freeman and Evans in both lineups. 

One started with 71.76 for 3 guys tonight:  Ryan - Elliot/Freeman - Evans/T.Will(SD)/M.Thomas-Rudolph-Crosby-KC

My other riskier cash lineup got 53.90 for the night to start the week:  Rodgers - Elliot/Freeman - Evans/Moncrief/Sanu - Rudolph - Crosby - Balt

I think that second one had some extra $, and I meant to go in and chance Crosby to Bryant but got distracted and forgot.  Doh!

Also had Winston/Julio/Evans in my Oakheart LU, so that got a good start to the week too with 75+ points. 

 
finally a good thursday game

mini squib- ryan(27.76)

gordon  sproles

julio(21.1)  evans(32.5) k benjamin

hooper(12.1)

crosby

seat

oakheart

ryan(27.76)

elliott  gordon

julio(21.1)  brown holton  (evans was 31.4% and ryan 25.9% so that may hurt my chances for big money but could still cash)

graham

hauschka

seat

50/50

rogers

gordon freeman(11.5)- disappointing but 40% owned

evans(32.5) k ben  moncrief

rudolph

lutz

bills

 
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Is the cash cutoff much higher on the Sunday million? Like a lot of us fbgs I'm generally a low stakes player, not going over the $5 wager most weeks. I was thinking of treating myself to a $25 this week but then my more sensible side says "play 5 $5 cash games" or "25 $1 gpp". Figured I'd inquire as to what the ballpark is to cash. I would imagine it's a little higher to cash but less points to actually win because it's 60,000 people vs 300,000, and you probably don't get a bunch of multiple plays. 

 
Is the cash cutoff much higher on the Sunday million? Like a lot of us fbgs I'm generally a low stakes player, not going over the $5 wager most weeks. I was thinking of treating myself to a $25 this week but then my more sensible side says "play 5 $5 cash games" or "25 $1 gpp". Figured I'd inquire as to what the ballpark is to cash. I would imagine it's a little higher to cash but less points to actually win because it's 60,000 people vs 300,000, and you probably don't get a bunch of multiple plays. 
I play several each week and treat them as if they were cash, the cut lines a very close to what the cash lines are each week (within a few points, often lower).  If you are looking to just make the cut ($40- $50) then this is the way to go, if you are looking for the big pay day then you will have to treat them like any other GPP, almost always the winner of these is using stacks and often they are super stacking or double stacking

 
finally a good thursday game

mini squib- ryan(27.76)

gordon  sproles

julio(21.1)  evans(32.5) k benjamin

hooper(12.1)

crosby

seat

oakheart

ryan(27.76)

elliott  gordon

julio(21.1)  brown holton  (evans was 31.4% and ryan 25.9% so that may hurt my chances for big money but could still cash)

graham

hauschka

seat

50/50

rogers

gordon freeman(11.5)- disappointing but 40% owned

evans(32.5) k ben  moncrief

rudolph

lutz

bills
NIce!

Yeah, it deflates it a tad knowing these guys are highly owned, but it still feels great to start the week with some good points. 

As I thought about the ownership %, I have been surprised the past couple weeks.  Starting to think that people are playing these more during the weeks with a lot of teams on bye to hopefully get the lower cash lines and less about playing guys that are going on Thursdays and Mondays.  I mean, it is high, but I thought that Evans would be 50%+.  I mean, why else get in this game other than loading up on Ryan, Evan, etc.?  Same thing last week with Murray being only 10-15% owned.  I just thought that one Thursday night that AJ Green had a monster game he was huge ownership - over 50%, but I guess I could be remembering this incorrectly. 

 
NIce!

Yeah, it deflates it a tad knowing these guys are highly owned, but it still feels great to start the week with some good points. 

As I thought about the ownership %, I have been surprised the past couple weeks.  Starting to think that people are playing these more during the weeks with a lot of teams on bye to hopefully get the lower cash lines and less about playing guys that are going on Thursdays and Mondays.  I mean, it is high, but I thought that Evans would be 50%+.  I mean, why else get in this game other than loading up on Ryan, Evan, etc.?  Same thing last week with Murray being only 10-15% owned.  I just thought that one Thursday night that AJ Green had a monster game he was huge ownership - over 50%, but I guess I could be remembering this incorrectly. 
I am pretty shocked at Evans' ownership as well.  He was 70-80% last week in my 50/50s and 2X, and I got him at 35% this week.  Comparable plus plus matchup, 400 more salary scared people off?  

To the second point, yeah,  I remember Thu-Mon slates with high owned studs, specifically AJG and David Johnson.  If you were playing those slates without those guys, you were burnt.  

 
Here we have those Fantasy Aces gpp %s from last night:  LINK

Here are the <10% guys that I think are worth a look for gpps:

QBs:  Tannehill, Rivers, Newton, Big Ben

RBs:  Hyde, Hightower/Ingram, J.Stew, T.West, D.Murray/Henry, L.Murray, Forte

WRs: Wallace, Nelson, Hilton, Montgomery, Still, A.Brown, Snead, Coates, D.Thomas, Hurns, OBJ

TEs:  Kelce!, Witten, Kendricks, Ebron, Barnidge, Graham

Anybody have the stones to go with anything from the Oakland passing attack in a gpp?


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 

 
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I am pretty shocked at Evans' ownership as well.  He was 70-80% last week in my 50/50s and 2X, and I got him at 35% this week.  Comparable plus plus matchup, 400 more salary scared people off?  

To the second point, yeah,  I remember Thu-Mon slates with high owned studs, specifically AJG and David Johnson.  If you were playing those slates without those guys, you were burnt.  
Higher owned stud who had a dud a week prior are usually a lot less owned the following week. Too many people get angry at missing on them the previous week. This seems to be the trend in every DFS sport. Not just NFL. 

 
Melvin Gordon wasn't on my list the first time through the slate, but looking closer, he has grown on me. He's playing almost 85% of the snaps and if you add his carries + targets, he's seen at least 29 in three straight games. That's just such a huge number. He is also their go-to guy inside the 10-yard line, so I don't think you just shrug off his 10 TDs as fluky. As a home favorite with so many of their pass catchers banged up, it wouldn't be a surprise if they again leaned heavily on him and he had 25 carries and 5-7 targets. He's interesting. Especially if you can get him for 10-15% in GPPs vs. 40-50% for Zeke. 

 
I play several each week and treat them as if they were cash, the cut lines a very close to what the cash lines are each week (within a few points, often lower).  If you are looking to just make the cut ($40- $50) then this is the way to go, if you are looking for the big pay day then you will have to treat them like any other GPP, almost always the winner of these is using stacks and often they are super stacking or double stacking
Thanks megla, I thought it was you that rolls more bankroll out. I'm still waffling, but I'll probably let it roll, and I'll probably play it safer but I usually stack anyway. 

 
Thanks megla, I thought it was you that rolls more bankroll out. I'm still waffling, but I'll probably let it roll, and I'll probably play it safer but I usually stack anyway. 
Right now I have 3 entries, but I have 6 or 7 $2 satellite LUs in tonight's NBA slates so I hope to have a couple more ?

Rogers, Elliot, Stewart,Nelson, Diggs,MThom,Rud,Crosby,KC- semi risky

Rogers, West,Sproles, Adams, Cobb,AB, Olsen, Crosby, Carol- swinging for the big bucks

Dak, Elliot, Gordon, Landry, Diggs, Snead, Rudolph, Limbo, KC- cash LU, may pivot off Snead to Wallace, Tate or even Moncrief

 
Trying something different this week for cash games.   I typically do only 2-3 line ups on a given slate, with a limited group of players I am drawn to.  This week I am gonna do multiple line up variations.  Also throwing caution in the wind and playing more bankroll than usual. 

My cash QB's are gonna be Luck and Rodgers.   Elliot and KC D are 100% exposure.   I basically have a short list of backs I like for cash.    Making at least one line up with each RB,  with the core WR plays I like. 

Reviewing my line ups so far I have the most exposure to Moncrief and M.Thomas about 60% between them.   TE is Gates and Rudolph with a splash of Kelce.   

 
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1pm Only slate is just brutal this week. Dak $7600 is priced as the highest QB. Haven't looked at the IVC yet though. 

 
1pm Only slate is just brutal this week. Dak $7600 is priced as the highest QB. Haven't looked at the IVC yet though. 
I have a few I really like, one gambles on Big Ben playing, one with Tangy and one with Flacco.  Really like the Flacco one

 
Early drafts...


Aaron


Rodgers


 


 


9100


DeMarco


Murray


 


 


8100


Melvin


Gordon


 


 


7800


Jordy


Nelson


 


 


8200


Dez


Bryant


 


 


7800


Tyreek


Hill


 


 


4700


Kyle


Rudolph


 


 


5000


Mason


Crosby


 


 


4700


Green Bay


Packers


 


 


4400


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


59800


 


 


 


 


 


Aaron


Rodgers


 


 


9100


Ezekiel


Elliott


 


 


9200


Melvin


Gordon


 


 


7800


Jordy


Nelson


 


 


8200


Antonio


Brown


 


 


8700


Johnny


Holton


 


 


0


Greg


Olsen


 


 


7500


Mason


Crosby


 


 


4700


Miami


Dolphins


 


 


4700


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


59900


 


 


 


 


 


Ben


Roethlisberger


 


 


7500


Charcandrick


West


 


 


5600


Melvin


Gordon


 


 


7800


Antonio


Brown


 


 


8700


Dez


Bryant


 


 


7800


T.Y.


Hilton


 


 


7600


Kyle


Rudolph


 


 


5000


Cairo


Santos


 


 


4700


Kansas City


Chiefs


 


 


5100


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


59800

 
fwiw i love my 1pm only lineup this week.  and given how i normally feel about my lineups i think thats a very good sign.

 
KarmaPolice said:
Is Cobb out?  Was just poking around with the IVC again and Dodds has him at 0 and Adams at WR4. 
Last report I saw was game time decision.  He was limited in practice all week which was similar to last week when he missed.

 
I am still concerned about Montgomery.  They had to know he wasnt playing well before kick off last week and didnt say anything. 

 
Final Cash LU's for this week. 

Thur/Mon

#1 Luck-C. West-Booker-Julio-Evans-AB-Hooper-Lutz-NYG (Sitting at 65 points right now)

Sun Only

#2 Arod-Zeke-Bell-Moncrief-M.Thomas-Adams-Kendricks-Dawson-DEN

#3 Kaep-C. West-Zeke-AB-Dez-DT-Rudolph-Lambo-SD

I will monitor the Thomas injury status, and change out if I have too. I think Kendricks is as good as any TE this week honestly, and it enable me to fit in both Zeke and Bell. They will be throwing the ball, and he is getting targets. It's a crap shoot at TE anyway. Rudolph is chalk, but have you seen him play, he is not that good. He is big and tall, thats it. Who knows how the new offensive coordinator is going to use now anyway. They may need him to stay in and block the way Bradford had been getting killed.  

Kaep should easily reach value, but I like to stack my QB with someone and couldn't with him. ( I am still thinking on this problem and may use Dak instead, so he has Dez as a stack. Just dubious of having 3 Cowboys in play.) I love my WR corp in LU #3.  I got off to a good start with my Thur/Mon LU, so I took a few more chances this week. Once again, I need upside in my LU's because I  use them in a lot of game formats. I really think everyone should have C. West and Zeke in any double ups they play this week. If they bust, so what, it won't hurt you because everyone has them. Anyone with Rodgers/Zeke/West/KC defense/Rudolph will have a great chance of doing well, as these are all going to be pretty chalk plays. I would have liked to have gotten Gordon in, but once again failed. 

Good Luck everyone, I am still waiting for one of us to hit it big! I would love to hear about it and sweat it out with you while the late games finish. 

 
heres an interesting lineup i built that i wont have the guts to play.  the plan is to attack the gb problem differently:

kaep

ee, montgomery

adams, nelson, diggs

gates

crosby

kc

 
I am still concerned about Montgomery.  They had to know he wasnt playing well before kick off last week and didnt say anything. 
idk it could have been a last minute decision from higher up type of thing.  maybe they were waiting for test results or something.  maybe he was lobbying to play and at the last minute they said no we cant risk it.  im not totally convinced it was a malicious thing they knew in advance and hid from the public.

 
SeniorVBDStudent said:
Early drafts...


Aaron


Rodgers


 


 


9100


DeMarco


Murray


 


 


8100


Melvin


Gordon


 


 


7800


Jordy


Nelson


 


 


8200


Dez


Bryant


 


 


7800


Tyreek


Hill


 


 


4700


Kyle


Rudolph


 


 


5000


Mason


Crosby


 


 


4700


Green Bay


Packers


 


 


4400


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


59800


 


 


 


 


 


Aaron


Rodgers


 


 


9100


Ezekiel


Elliott


 


 


9200


Melvin


Gordon


 


 


7800


Jordy


Nelson


 


 


8200


Antonio


Brown


 


 


8700


Johnny


Holton


 


 


0


Greg


Olsen


 


 


7500


Mason


Crosby


 


 


4700


Miami


Dolphins


 


 


4700


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


59900


 


 


 


 


 


Ben


Roethlisberger


 


 


7500


Charcandrick


West


 


 


5600


Melvin


Gordon


 


 


7800


Antonio


Brown


 


 


8700


Dez


Bryant


 


 


7800


T.Y.


Hilton


 


 


7600


Kyle


Rudolph


 


 


5000


Cairo


Santos


 


 


4700


Kansas City


Chiefs


 


 


5100


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


59800
You might want to take a closer look at Dez's matchup, it's not good

Dallas will run heavy and Des draws Haden

 
Is this too much exposure to the GB/Indy game?  4-person private tourney with very average competition.  I treat it like a cash entry.

Luck

West/Gordon

Hilton/Nelson/Benjamin

Gates/Crosby/Chiefs

 
idk it could have been a last minute decision from higher up type of thing.  maybe they were waiting for test results or something.  maybe he was lobbying to play and at the last minute they said no we cant risk it.  im not totally convinced it was a malicious thing they knew in advance and hid from the public.
Bloody urine from a kidney issue isn't a minor thing.  Malicious is the wrong word, they weren't trying to harm DFS players, I'm sure they legitametly couldn't care less.  And they shouldnt care.  But if the report of kidney issues and bloody urine are accurate that's not a game time decision type of thing.  They thought there was an edge to be gained.

 
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You might want to take a closer look at Dez's matchup, it's not good

Dallas will run heavy and Des draws Haden
Megla do you have any idea how haden is grading out this year. I thought I had been reading that he was not what he used to be. Plus dealing with groin. Dez is a monster anyway, especially in the redzone because he is so physical. Does Haden usually match up or play one side? Just curious on your thoughts, you got me off Cooper a couple weeks ago and I was glad you did. Thanks

 
I haven't

Megla do you have any idea how haden is grading out this year. I thought I had been reading that he was not what he used to be. Plus dealing with groin. Dez is a monster anyway, especially in the redzone because he is so physical. Does Haden usually match up or play one side? Just curious on your thoughts, you got me off Cooper a couple weeks ago and I was glad you did. Thanks
I haven't heard anything negative about Haden and I'm pretty sure he follows Des all day.  Just don't like him here as I think this game script will be all Zeke.  Mind you this is just a hunch, but based on that I'm going to fade him this week

 
I would expect Haden to follow Dez.  He shadowed Brandon Marshall last week.  I think the secondary receivers (Beasley/Witten) for Dallas may be solid cheap plays this week.  

 
Bloody urine from a kidney issue isn't a minor thing.  Malicious is the wrong word, they weren't trying to harm DFS players, I'm sure they legitametly couldn't care less.  And they shouldnt care.  But if the report of kidney issues and bloody urine are accurate that's not a game time decision type of thing.  They thought there was an edge to be gained.
im not saying its a minor thing.  im just saying its plausible that the decision to let him play may have been a gtd type of thing as opposed to them knowing the entire time but not telling anybody.

i would say its more likely they knew all along and didnt say anything to gain an advantage but i dont think we can be 100% certain.

 

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