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I hope not.Volek? (is he still out there?)Culpepper?
I hope not.Volek? (is he still out there?)Culpepper?
I like the guy and he was and still is GREAT for the game, but many acting like this is a total shock is really silly. You may not like it, but it's the truth as any football fan knew this could have happened the past several seasons.Stop.LOL at all the sadness....this is the guy that the same people keep complaining about every year....MAKE UP YOUR MIND, PLAY OR RETIRE. Well, he made a decision and made it early enough so his team could make the proper adjustments. Quit acting like this came out of nowhere, you been living in a cave for the past 2 years?
SD re-signed him for 3 yrs $9mI hope not.Volek? (is he still out there?)Culpepper?
Volek resigned in SD.I hope not.Volek? (is he still out there?)Culpepper?
Now announcers will just double the amount of drool for Brady and Manning. Even as a Colts fan I don't know if I could take that.Joe stole your joke for the email updates.Madden on suicide watch?Hi Folks,
I won't be wearing you out with every bit of news this month but if you hadn't heard
already, I wanted to let you know of the big news coming out of Green Bay this
morning. Brett Favre is calling it a career.
Professional way to close out a great career and it gives the team plenty of time
to prepare and figure out how to move forward. Obviously, this is terrible news for
not just the Packers but also the receiving corps and running game from a fantasy
football angle. There will be plenty of talk over the next few months about how
they fill the void.
In related news, all sharp objects were removed from the Madden Cruiser this morning...
Have a great rest of your week.
J
I must have missed that.SD re-signed him for 3 yrs $9mI hope not.Volek? (is he still out there?)Culpepper?
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Oh lord how I will NOT miss that being said about him every time he appears on camera. I swear, for every time he was seen smiling and loving the game I saw two of him sulking.Favre was a grade A talent, but let's get off the hero worship since he has asked for and recieved special treatment for years. He may have never said he was going to retire before, but he sure had me convinced last year when he was crying after his magical win over the bears second string. When I think of class acts I think of guys like Elway who never took special priveleges. Is he due priveleges being a HOF QB? Absolutely. But it would be much more commendable if he didn't indulge himself in them.The timing of the Moss signing and his imminent retirement may only be circumstantial, but after his tantrum last year threatening to stay out of one of the minicamps I am not surprised in the least. I do however think it odd that most Packer fans I've seen internet wide were in such denial over his possible retirement. The Packers will still have a very solid team next year. Rodgers will not be the difference maker that Favre was this year, but they still have a lot going for them in spite of the retirement. They probably would lose close contests that they won this year but that won't keep them out of the playoffs.Whether you liked him or not, you had to respect him as a player and a competitor.The man loved to play the game and it showed.
Why?I'm sure they'll just draft somebody. Rodgers is more than ready at this point. Not saying he'll take them to the promised land but bringing damaged goods to a team so young is not a good idea, IMO.Congrats to Favre on a great career.Culpepper?
When did he ever ask for special treatment?Elway? The guy who was drafted and refused to play for the team he was drafted by? Are you freakin serious?When did he ever indulge himself in his accomplishments? Good lord...are you people seriously making this crap up for fun?Tantrum last year? The one nobody could ever quote him on? That one?Oh lord how I will NOT miss that being said about him every time he appears on camera. I swear, for every time he was seen smiling and loving the game I saw two of him sulking.Favre was a grade A talent, but let's get off the hero worship since he has asked for and recieved special treatment for years. He may have never said he was going to retire before, but he sure had me convinced last year when he was crying after his magical win over the bears second string. When I think of class acts I think of guys like Elway who never took special priveleges. Is he due priveleges being a HOF QB? Absolutely. But it would be much more commendable if he didn't indulge himself in them.The timing of the Moss signing and his imminent retirement may only be circumstantial, but after his tantrum last year threatening to stay out of one of the minicamps I am not surprised in the least. I do however think it odd that most Packer fans I've seen internet wide were in such denial over his possible retirement. The Packers will still have a very solid team next year. Rodgers will not be the difference maker that Favre was this year, but they still have a lot going for them in spite of the retirement. They probably would lose close contests that they won this year but that won't keep them out of the playoffs.Whether you liked him or not, you had to respect him as a player and a competitor.The man loved to play the game and it showed.
Because they still need a veteran QB. They are a good enough team that if Rodgers go down...they can still compete for the playoffs. They will have a vet backup.Why?I'm sure they'll just draft somebody. Rodgers is more than ready at this point. Not saying he'll take them to the promised land but bringing damaged goods to a team so young is not a good idea, IMO.Congrats to Favre on a great career.Culpepper?
That looks familiar.FYI, this is now up on www.packers.com
That was before Elway actually played a down. Favre asked for special treatment each time he took over a month to decide whether or not to reitre. The tantrum that I am referring to is one you and I have talked about before. The one where he threatened to sit out minicamp due to "his daughter's graduation party" and he subsequently asked to be traded when they did not land Moss last year.Enjoy your cheese and denial.When did he ever ask for special treatment?Elway? The guy who was drafted and refused to play for the team he was drafted by? Are you freakin serious?When did he ever indulge himself in his accomplishments? Good lord...are you people seriously making this crap up for fun?Tantrum last year? The one nobody could ever quote him on? That one?Oh lord how I will NOT miss that being said about him every time he appears on camera. I swear, for every time he was seen smiling and loving the game I saw two of him sulking.Favre was a grade A talent, but let's get off the hero worship since he has asked for and recieved special treatment for years. He may have never said he was going to retire before, but he sure had me convinced last year when he was crying after his magical win over the bears second string. When I think of class acts I think of guys like Elway who never took special priveleges. Is he due priveleges being a HOF QB? Absolutely. But it would be much more commendable if he didn't indulge himself in them.The timing of the Moss signing and his imminent retirement may only be circumstantial, but after his tantrum last year threatening to stay out of one of the minicamps I am not surprised in the least. I do however think it odd that most Packer fans I've seen internet wide were in such denial over his possible retirement. The Packers will still have a very solid team next year. Rodgers will not be the difference maker that Favre was this year, but they still have a lot going for them in spite of the retirement. They probably would lose close contests that they won this year but that won't keep them out of the playoffs.Whether you liked him or not, you had to respect him as a player and a competitor.The man loved to play the game and it showed.
But it was more special treatment than Favre ever asked for.its not special treatment to take a while to retire. And you know how many times he took a while to decide? Once. 2 years ago. Last year they had his answer by the Super Bowl.Yup...the tantrum is the rumored one that Brett denies and that nobody could ever quote him as saying he asked for any trades.Not denial...factual...instead false opinions and statements that were nothing but rumor.That was before Elway actually played a down. Favre asked for special treatment each time he took over a month to decide whether or not to reitre. The tantrum that I am referring to is one you and I have talked about before. The one where he threatened to sit out minicamp due to "his daughter's graduation party" and he subsequently asked to be traded when they did not land Moss last year.Enjoy your cheese and denial.When did he ever ask for special treatment?Elway? The guy who was drafted and refused to play for the team he was drafted by? Are you freakin serious?When did he ever indulge himself in his accomplishments? Good lord...are you people seriously making this crap up for fun?Tantrum last year? The one nobody could ever quote him on? That one?Oh lord how I will NOT miss that being said about him every time he appears on camera. I swear, for every time he was seen smiling and loving the game I saw two of him sulking.Favre was a grade A talent, but let's get off the hero worship since he has asked for and recieved special treatment for years. He may have never said he was going to retire before, but he sure had me convinced last year when he was crying after his magical win over the bears second string. When I think of class acts I think of guys like Elway who never took special priveleges. Is he due priveleges being a HOF QB? Absolutely. But it would be much more commendable if he didn't indulge himself in them.The timing of the Moss signing and his imminent retirement may only be circumstantial, but after his tantrum last year threatening to stay out of one of the minicamps I am not surprised in the least. I do however think it odd that most Packer fans I've seen internet wide were in such denial over his possible retirement. The Packers will still have a very solid team next year. Rodgers will not be the difference maker that Favre was this year, but they still have a lot going for them in spite of the retirement. They probably would lose close contests that they won this year but that won't keep them out of the playoffs.Whether you liked him or not, you had to respect him as a player and a competitor.The man loved to play the game and it showed.
Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me.These clowns on ESPN2 right now are a disgrace. A legend retires, and instead of talking about his legacy, they are all saying how they think he will go back on this and play next year. Favre deserves better than to basically be accused of being full of #### on the day he retires.
Threatening and following through are two completely different animals. While Favre has certainly done some questionable things throughout his career he ALWAYS showed up and played his heart out. Nothing Favre has done can compare to Elway boycotting playing for the Colts.That was before Elway actually played a down. Favre asked for special treatment each time he took over a month to decide whether or not to reitre. The tantrum that I am referring to is one you and I have talked about before. The one where he threatened to sit out minicamp due to "his daughter's graduation party" and he subsequently asked to be traded when they did not land Moss last year.Enjoy your cheese and denial.When did he ever ask for special treatment?Elway? The guy who was drafted and refused to play for the team he was drafted by? Are you freakin serious?When did he ever indulge himself in his accomplishments? Good lord...are you people seriously making this crap up for fun?Tantrum last year? The one nobody could ever quote him on? That one?Oh lord how I will NOT miss that being said about him every time he appears on camera. I swear, for every time he was seen smiling and loving the game I saw two of him sulking.Favre was a grade A talent, but let's get off the hero worship since he has asked for and recieved special treatment for years. He may have never said he was going to retire before, but he sure had me convinced last year when he was crying after his magical win over the bears second string. When I think of class acts I think of guys like Elway who never took special priveleges. Is he due priveleges being a HOF QB? Absolutely. But it would be much more commendable if he didn't indulge himself in them.The timing of the Moss signing and his imminent retirement may only be circumstantial, but after his tantrum last year threatening to stay out of one of the minicamps I am not surprised in the least. I do however think it odd that most Packer fans I've seen internet wide were in such denial over his possible retirement. The Packers will still have a very solid team next year. Rodgers will not be the difference maker that Favre was this year, but they still have a lot going for them in spite of the retirement. They probably would lose close contests that they won this year but that won't keep them out of the playoffs.Whether you liked him or not, you had to respect him as a player and a competitor.The man loved to play the game and it showed.
It would not surprise me if this summer he gets antsy and wants to return.Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me.These clowns on ESPN2 right now are a disgrace. A legend retires, and instead of talking about his legacy, they are all saying how they think he will go back on this and play next year. Favre deserves better than to basically be accused of being full of #### on the day he retires.
DamnWhen did he ever ask for special treatment?Elway? The guy who was drafted and refused to play for the team he was drafted by? Are you freakin serious?When did he ever indulge himself in his accomplishments? Good lord...are you people seriously making this crap up for fun?Tantrum last year? The one nobody could ever quote him on? That one?Oh lord how I will NOT miss that being said about him every time he appears on camera. I swear, for every time he was seen smiling and loving the game I saw two of him sulking.Favre was a grade A talent, but let's get off the hero worship since he has asked for and recieved special treatment for years. He may have never said he was going to retire before, but he sure had me convinced last year when he was crying after his magical win over the bears second string. When I think of class acts I think of guys like Elway who never took special priveleges. Is he due priveleges being a HOF QB? Absolutely. But it would be much more commendable if he didn't indulge himself in them.The timing of the Moss signing and his imminent retirement may only be circumstantial, but after his tantrum last year threatening to stay out of one of the minicamps I am not surprised in the least. I do however think it odd that most Packer fans I've seen internet wide were in such denial over his possible retirement. The Packers will still have a very solid team next year. Rodgers will not be the difference maker that Favre was this year, but they still have a lot going for them in spite of the retirement. They probably would lose close contests that they won this year but that won't keep them out of the playoffs.Whether you liked him or not, you had to respect him as a player and a competitor.The man loved to play the game and it showed.
Thats BS. He didn't need Moss. That would basically be slamming Driver, Jennings, et al. I don't believe that for a second.ESPN radio is saying two sources said that he told them he would have stayed if they would have gone out and got Moss.Moss was not coming to Green Bay this year. Those rumors, were just that rumors. Moss was not going to leave the best organization with the best quarterback to come to a team with a QB on his last legs. Plus Favre had plenty of weapons now so this is NOT the reason why he retired.Timing ....Day after Moss resigns with the Pats![]()
Oh lord how I will NOT miss that being said about him every time he appears on camera. I swear, for every time he was seen smiling and loving the game I saw two of him sulking.Favre was a grade A talent, but let's get off the hero worship since he has asked for and recieved special treatment for years. He may have never said he was going to retire before, but he sure had me convinced last year when he was crying after his magical win over the bears second string. When I think of class acts I think of guys like Elway who never took special priveleges. Is he due priveleges being a HOF QB? Absolutely. But it would be much more commendable if he didn't indulge himself in them.Whether you liked him or not, you had to respect him as a player and a competitor.
The man loved to play the game and it showed.
The timing of the Moss signing and his imminent retirement may only be circumstantial, but after his tantrum last year threatening to stay out of one of the minicamps I am not surprised in the least. I do however think it odd that most Packer fans I've seen internet wide were in such denial over his possible retirement.
The Packers will still have a very solid team next year. Rodgers will not be the difference maker that Favre was this year, but they still have a lot going for them in spite of the retirement. They probably would lose close contests that they won this year but that won't keep them out of the playoffs.
Well, now that scott72 from the internet has debunked that rumor, I can go back to work in peace.Thats BS. He didn't need Moss. That would basically be slamming Driver, Jennings, et al. I don't believe that for a second.ESPN radio is saying two sources said that he told them he would have stayed if they would have gone out and got Moss.Moss was not coming to Green Bay this year. Those rumors, were just that rumors. Moss was not going to leave the best organization with the best quarterback to come to a team with a QB on his last legs. Plus Favre had plenty of weapons now so this is NOT the reason why he retired.Timing ....Day after Moss resigns with the Pats![]()
Congrats, you have two of the dumbest posts I've seen here in awhile. How many other players took time to decide to play or not? Is Strahan asking for special treatment too when he asks for 10 mill guaranteed to come back? Clearly your not a fan of the game if you don't appreciate what Favre brought to the game. He played it for the love of the game and not the glory. Look around the thread and check out the posts from non-Packer fans and you'll see what people are feeling. Your hate posts really make you look silly.That was before Elway actually played a down. Favre asked for special treatment each time he took over a month to decide whether or not to reitre. The tantrum that I am referring to is one you and I have talked about before. The one where he threatened to sit out minicamp due to "his daughter's graduation party" and he subsequently asked to be traded when they did not land Moss last year.Enjoy your cheese and denial.When did he ever ask for special treatment?Elway? The guy who was drafted and refused to play for the team he was drafted by? Are you freakin serious?When did he ever indulge himself in his accomplishments? Good lord...are you people seriously making this crap up for fun?Tantrum last year? The one nobody could ever quote him on? That one?Oh lord how I will NOT miss that being said about him every time he appears on camera. I swear, for every time he was seen smiling and loving the game I saw two of him sulking.Favre was a grade A talent, but let's get off the hero worship since he has asked for and recieved special treatment for years. He may have never said he was going to retire before, but he sure had me convinced last year when he was crying after his magical win over the bears second string. When I think of class acts I think of guys like Elway who never took special priveleges. Is he due priveleges being a HOF QB? Absolutely. But it would be much more commendable if he didn't indulge himself in them.The timing of the Moss signing and his imminent retirement may only be circumstantial, but after his tantrum last year threatening to stay out of one of the minicamps I am not surprised in the least. I do however think it odd that most Packer fans I've seen internet wide were in such denial over his possible retirement. The Packers will still have a very solid team next year. Rodgers will not be the difference maker that Favre was this year, but they still have a lot going for them in spite of the retirement. They probably would lose close contests that they won this year but that won't keep them out of the playoffs.Whether you liked him or not, you had to respect him as a player and a competitor.The man loved to play the game and it showed.
the espn story says:Well, now that scott72 from the internet has debunked that rumor, I can go back to work in peace.Thats BS. He didn't need Moss. That would basically be slamming Driver, Jennings, et al. I don't believe that for a second.ESPN radio is saying two sources said that he told them he would have stayed if they would have gone out and got Moss.Moss was not coming to Green Bay this year. Those rumors, were just that rumors. Moss was not going to leave the best organization with the best quarterback to come to a team with a QB on his last legs. Plus Favre had plenty of weapons now so this is NOT the reason why he retired.Timing ....Day after Moss resigns with the Pats![]()
In his voice mail message to Mortensen on Tuesday, Favre said the Packers' lack of pursuit of Moss was not the driving reason why he retired."This is not about the Packers and who they got or who they didn't get. I get along fine with [Thompson] and I get along great with [McCarthy]. Do I agree with them all the time? No. But the bottom line is, none of that stuff affected my decision," Favre said.
No, it's not.In the end, it's just football. In the end, this is just a message board.Some people take very non-serious things way too seriously.Favre retiring is like the Pope retiring. Show a little respect.
Yes we knew it would happen someday, but whats with the condescending tone? If you want to be a hater fine, but stop being such an ***hole towards people that appreciate what he brought to the game.I like the guy and he was and still is GREAT for the game, but many acting like this is a total shock is really silly. You may not like it, but it's the truth as any football fan knew this could have happened the past several seasons.Stop.LOL at all the sadness....this is the guy that the same people keep complaining about every year....MAKE UP YOUR MIND, PLAY OR RETIRE. Well, he made a decision and made it early enough so his team could make the proper adjustments. Quit acting like this came out of nowhere, you been living in a cave for the past 2 years?
Ohhhhhhh Keys.No, it's not.In the end, it's just football.Favre retiring is like the Pope retiring. Show a little respect.
And to expand that further...http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3276034the espn story says:Well, now that scott72 from the internet has debunked that rumor, I can go back to work in peace.Thats BS. He didn't need Moss. That would basically be slamming Driver, Jennings, et al. I don't believe that for a second.ESPN radio is saying two sources said that he told them he would have stayed if they would have gone out and got Moss.Moss was not coming to Green Bay this year. Those rumors, were just that rumors. Moss was not going to leave the best organization with the best quarterback to come to a team with a QB on his last legs. Plus Favre had plenty of weapons now so this is NOT the reason why he retired.Timing ....Day after Moss resigns with the Pats
In his voice mail message to Mortensen on Tuesday, Favre said the Packers' lack of pursuit of Moss was not the driving reason why he retired.
"This is not about the Packers and who they got or who they didn't get. I get along fine with [Thompson] and I get along great with [McCarthy]. Do I agree with them all the time? No. But the bottom line is, none of that stuff affected my decision," Favre said.
McCarthy said he and Favre had never discussed bringing in Moss.
"But I can tell you one thing, never once in all my converstaions with Brett this offseason has he ever asked or told me that we had to have Randy Moss for him to come back and play," McCarthy told Mortensen. "Randy Moss' name never came up once. And it bothers me that [Favre's agent] has made this an issue."
Read Mortensen's words on ESPN.com story I just posted.Nobody is sure what the hell Bus was talking about.Per Rotoworld:The Packers have officially announced Brett Favre's retirement. Brett Favre's agent Bus Cook said he thought Favre wanted to play another year, but didn't feel that the Packers wanted him back.It sounds like this story isn't over yet. "I think he felt he could play one more year. I don't know if they told him they really wanted him to play. That's just the feeling I got," Cook said. Cook said the Packers didn't try to talk him out of retiring. When asked if Favre could be talked out of the decision, he said, "I don't know." ESPN's Chris Mortensen thought Favre sounded "absolute" about retiring.
As opposed to ESPN always being accurate right? Get over yourself.Well, now that scott72 from the internet has debunked that rumor, I can go back to work in peace.Thats BS. He didn't need Moss. That would basically be slamming Driver, Jennings, et al. I don't believe that for a second.ESPN radio is saying two sources said that he told them he would have stayed if they would have gone out and got Moss.Moss was not coming to Green Bay this year. Those rumors, were just that rumors. Moss was not going to leave the best organization with the best quarterback to come to a team with a QB on his last legs. Plus Favre had plenty of weapons now so this is NOT the reason why he retired.Timing ....Day after Moss resigns with the Pats![]()
oofI sure as hell hope not, let him do it.Furley Madden on suicide watch?![]()
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Pretty sad that the last pass he ever threw in the NFL was that sideline out that got picked and led to the G-Men's winning field goal.
Although it is blasphemous to say this in Chicago, I always liked Favre. Does this mean the best QB in the NFC North is now Kitna? I don't even know whom I would rank second-best QB in the NFC North.
As posted in the other thread...I don't think anyone has a clue what the hell Bus was talking about. He gave his opinon...but it does not seem to hold water given the comments by Favre to Mort and by McCarthy.http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3276034This could get interesting....
"FAVRE SITUATION SUDDENLY GETS WEIRD Posted by Mike Florio on March 4, 2008, 11:55 a.m.
As it turns out, that dark cloud in Wisconsin could quickly become a storm.
Brett Favre’s agent, Bus Cook, has told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that Favre wanted to play another year, but that he felt like the Packers didn’t want him.
Uh-oh.
“I know he wants to play one more year,” Cook said. “I do not know much conversation there was and I don’t think anyone forced him to make that decision. But I don’t know that anyone tried to talk him out of it.”
Uh-oh.
“I think he wanted to play,” Cook said. ” I think he’s still got it. He knows he’s still got it. I think he felt he could play one more year. I don’t know if they told him they really wanted him to play. That’s just the feeling I got.”
Uh-oh.
Asked whether Favre could be talked into returning, Cook said, “I don’t know.”
Well, maybe the media speculation that the guy who brought Favre to Green Bay, former G.M. Ron Wolf, might be whispering to Bill Parcells about trying to get Favre to Miami is more accurate than we initially thought. Because if Favre wants to play another year and if it’s not with the Packers, then maybe it will be elsewhere.
But if Favre doesn’t play for the Packers in 2008, either because he’s playing for someone else or not playing at all, we think that there could be an enormous backlash against the team. Specifically, G.M. Ted Thompson could find himself in the crosshairs of the fans’ criticism.
Never mind the fact that Thompson has done an excellent job; the perception that he ran off Brett Favre could be the quickest ticket out of town for Thompson.
If, in the end, Thompson gets saddled with the brunt of the blame for Favre’s departure, the pressure on Thompson to leave, too, will be tremendous. And, as a practical matter, it will put him on an incredibly short leash if the team falters in 2008. "
In his voice mail message to Mortensen on Tuesday, Favre said the Packers' lack of pursuit of Moss was not the driving reason why he retired.
"This is not about the Packers and who they got or who they didn't get. I get along fine with [Thompson] and I get along great with [McCarthy]. Do I agree with them all the time? No. But the bottom line is, none of that stuff affected my decision," Favre said.
McCarthy said he and Favre had never discussed bringing in Moss.
"But I can tell you one thing, never once in all my converstaions with Brett this offseason has he ever asked or told me that we had to have Randy Moss for him to come back and play," McCarthy told Mortensen. "Randy Moss' name never came up once. And it bothers me that [Favre's agent] has made this an issue."
Bout 11 million or so I think?Not that there is anyone big out there at this point.How much cap room does this open up for Green Bay this year?