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Something that occured to me is maybe the goalline back in Chicago. Mike Bush was on a deal that can be cut after this year and with how he has been banged up this year, I can see him on his way out of town.
I actually just wrote an article about how the Steelers should sign him. I think giving the Steelers a talented and physical back, with more dedication to improving the O-line could make them a dangerous team again.
Is he just one of those injury prone guys, or is it possibly his running style? Maybe becoming a starter will force him to change how he runs, which will reduce his effectiveness?
I just don't see Detroit giving up Leshoure this early.
He could start elsewhere but a Top 10 back? I don't think so.
I'm sure the same sentiment existed about Lynch. Look at this skill set. He is powerful and has shown enormous ability to get long runs. The one year that he was allowed to get in a rhythm, he averaged 5.4 yards per carry. If you give him goal line touches, that's the ingredients for a top 10 runner. Long runs an goal line touches.
When? Lynch was always projected to be a Top 10 back coming out of Cal and he was (for awhile) with the Bills, until FJax cut into his projection and he wound up in Seattle.Edit: I meant "production" not "projection."
Buried in a timeshare with Spiller and Jackson (2010) no one was saying that. How quick we are to forget. 2 years ago, Ivory helped many a RB-Needy team. If he became a starter for Atlanta or Green Bay, I could easily see top 10.
it depends i think on what happens wit h the coaching over thie off season the team gave up on shwartz last weekend we will have to se what happens teh last two weeks and if they change coaches you never know what they will do with player personnel i could honetsly see car ditching all of the rbs and bringing in new blood there to and nyj could really use a back and a qb man that is for sure take that to the bank
Terrell Davis wasn't undrafted.You may want to revise that in your article.
Of course not. It does help to set a precedent. Something that people point to when indicating a players talent is their draft slot, so it is helpful to show that players who have come from a similar situation can be successful.
How is the Rams line at runblocking?'King of the Jungle said:
Haha, well there seems to be some diverging opinions. I personally believe he is the perfect for the Green Bay Offense. Was Benson a good passing down back?
He was more effective in the passing game than I expected him to be. He did pretty well there. I'm just not a big Ivory guy. Never have been. He runs hard, I'll give him that. But he doesn't always run well and he isn't versatile. I could see the merits behind an Ivory (power back)/Green (passing down back) combination but I'm old school. I'd like to see the Packers get one RB who they can lean on and go from there. I don't think Ivory is a special talent and I'd like to see the Packers get someone with more talent to really complement all they can do in the passing game.
Why can't they have both? In 2012, even the leading carrier in the NFL (Adrian Peterson) doesn't have 90% of his teams carries. Every team utilizes their version of a 3rd down back. I'm sure Ivory is strong enough to become a capable pass blocker. It would then be a matter of coaching.
They can have both and probably will in all probability. But like I said, I'm old school. I'd rather have one really good RB than two mediocre ones.
Do you really believe that Ivory is mediocre? I think that if he was given a starting running back job, he would excel.
I think he's slightly above-average at best. Again, I've never been a big fan. I don't think he's some unsung star who just needs an opportunity. I think he's a solid power back with durability issues who isn't useful in the passing game. For a pass-first team like the Packers he's not someone I would be interested in.
The only issue I have with your statement is that I don't really think the Packer's really want to have the current run-pass ratio that they have. McCarthy has shown a willingness to commit to the ground game, but has done so with backs we know just aren't that good.
I look at someone like Michael Bush (better all around player) and showed in Oakland durable with the load with McFadden hurt. He was forced to settle on backup role.Ivory can't stay healthy as the 4th RB now. Nice to speculate, but this board has a bad tendency to overrate any upcoming free agent RB's (w/o regard to the new draft class & other free agent RB's with a better track record / more versatility)Better spot on a RB depth chart? Likely yes.Handed a starting spot as some believe? Not a chance.
Who on Green Bay's roster or Arizona's or even Pittsburgh's scares you in relation to Ivory?
Again, your ignoring the free agents to be available. And the incoming draft class.Ivory will do well to land a backup job somewhere (perhaps even given as much as short yardage/power role). Feel free to think he's given more than that. Call me stunned that a 4th string RB that can't stay healthy is outright given an NFL starting RB job this offseason.Who on Green Bay's roster or Arizona's or even Pittsburgh's scares you in relation to Ivory?
And Mendenhall is one free agent that will land a starting job before Christopher Ivory.
Some sort of bet that Ivory has more yards than Mendenhall next year? Mendenhall was disappointing when he was healthy.Again, your ignoring the free agents to be available. And the incoming draft class.Ivory will do well to land a backup job somewhere. Feel free to think he's given more than thatWho on Green Bay's roster or Arizona's or even Pittsburgh's scares you in relation to Ivory?
I'll gladly come in here and say good call.
Mendenhall will have a market this offseason with 3 full seasons as bell cow and is just 26 next June (9 months older than Ivory). He wasn't impressive this year, but he's shown to able to handle the full load from 2009-11. He's just now 1 year removed from torn ACL. No one is Adrian Peterson and I think that's clouded the severity of the injury and the rehab. (It's unheard of what he's done this year in Minnesota and the level he's at. And completely carrying a otherwise bad offense w/o Harvin) Ivory hasn't been able to stay healthy for any duration as a bit RB piece there in New Orleans. He's shown to be a solid power guy in limited time. I expect the league to treat his eventual role as such.
I think that you are probably right, he will be signed as a power back by a team who needs one, but I think that this role expands once he gets on the field. Ivory just strikes me as a very good runner and all of the tape that I have watched has confirmed that belief. I believe the exact opposite of Mendenhall. Think he is your average 3 yards and a cloud of dust plodder.I'll gladly come in here and say good call.
Not sure, I have zero carries logged behind that line. Lions should take a chance on him as well.
You think they give up on Leshoure this quick?
I don't think so, however they have two backs that are very similar (Leshoure and Bell). That offense missed explosion from the RB position. Not sure if he is a perfect fit but injecting some big play ability in the backfield is a must for the offseason.
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It's far from the first time someone started a website and posted links to it on another far more popular site to try to drive traffic to their site. Some people just continue with the skeevy spamming and keep doing it til they get banned. Others stop because they're decent people. You seem like a decent guy.
Haha, well, appreciated man.
Prevailing thought seems to be that he'll sign somewhere as a primary back up and possiby force a timeshare.
That's what I thought. Probably the best case scenario for a guy I'm going to add in my dynasty league hoping for him to get a chance. A few other options that I'm not sure would be any better.
Maybe there is only a 25% chance he hit's, but if he does, he' ll be huge.
Good comparison in terms of sheer power, but he's got more speed'KellysHeroes said:
It's that type of comparison that should excite dynasty owners.
