Yeah, imagine that, a company trying to make money for a service. Ridiculous huh...........The only way to see the projections and anything worth vewing is too pay for it?
Next thing you know, they'll be trying to pay these guys for doing all of this research and work.I just ponyed up the dough this week because I too got sick of being blocked by the symbol.Yeah, imagine that, a company trying to make money for a service. Ridiculous huh...........The only way to see the projections and anything worth vewing is too pay for it?
yeah when u can get the same quality stuff for free, i think this site is a little commerical dont u think, i came here looking for some good reading on the main page and its worst then a pentacostal priest looking for money during a sunday morning..i mean i cant even read one dang thing on the main page without paying somethingYeah, imagine that, a company trying to make money for a service. Ridiculous huh...........The only way to see the projections and anything worth vewing is too pay for it?
Yeah, I'm sure FBG should be spending 10 hours a day researching and posting stuff for FREE. Who needs to pay bills, put a roof over your head, eat food or provide for a family. FBG, you guys suck, how dare you charge us for your hardwork, what is this Rhiad or something!yeah when u can get the same quality stuff for free, i think this site is a little commerical dont u think, i came here looking for some good reading on the main page and its worst then a pentacostal priest looking for money during a sunday morning..i mean i cant even read one dang thing on the main page without paying somethingYeah, imagine that, a company trying to make money for a service. Ridiculous huh...........The only way to see the projections and anything worth vewing is too pay for it?
There are tons of free stuff on this site.This message board is one.Look around - there is more value here than any place else.Read the testimonials and view the sample stuff - make your own mind up.yeah when u can get the same quality stuff for free, i think this site is a little commerical dont u think, i came here looking for some good reading on the main page and its worst then a pentacostal priest looking for money during a sunday morning..i mean i cant even read one dang thing on the main page without paying somethingYeah, imagine that, a company trying to make money for a service. Ridiculous huh...........The only way to see the projections and anything worth vewing is too pay for it?
im looking around and all i see is a free message board, im sure FBG's make jsut enough from sales then to rake all of us through the coals, but ill give it shot, i hear good things, i just cant see paying for something u can get for free on a ton of other sites, i really dont see anything free on the main page, i just wanted to get some good readin, and i was told about u guys teh other day and i came, and i was blown out of mind with all the dollar signsThere are tons of free stuff on this site.This message board is one.Look around - there is more value here than any place else.Read the testimonials and view the sample stuff - make your own mind up.yeah when u can get the same quality stuff for free, i think this site is a little commerical dont u think, i came here looking for some good reading on the main page and its worst then a pentacostal priest looking for money during a sunday morning..i mean i cant even read one dang thing on the main page without paying somethingYeah, imagine that, a company trying to make money for a service. Ridiculous huh...........The only way to see the projections and anything worth vewing is too pay for it?
ive played in big money league and still do, i would just like a sample of what im buying into before i get rid of the sunday morning dollar signs..link?Obviously this is for serious FF players only and mostly dynasty owners. If your winnings are $500 or greater than I recommend. If you are just playing for fun and the winner does not take $500 or more, then it's probably a waste of money.
thanks, thats what i was looking forClick the articles link at the top of the homepage. There are tons of free articles that will give you a taste of what the site offers. I think you can even see last years pay content for free - so you know what you'll be getting this year. You can also try the draft dominator for free - it just has older data, but it works great. No other site offers as much - no matter what the cost. Have a great season guy.
I totally understand. On the other hand, if you are worried about dropping $27 bucks on a phenomenal service then you should probably not be playing fantasy football because you probably have more important needs for your money.ive played in big money league and still do, i would just like a sample of what im buying into before i get rid of the sunday morning dollar signs..link?Obviously this is for serious FF players only and mostly dynasty owners. If your winnings are $500 or greater than I recommend. If you are just playing for fun and the winner does not take $500 or more, then it's probably a waste of money.
Well, not that I MIND ads - but might I point out the ads here and on the main page?Ads are completely fine on any site - it's a smart part of any business.That said - I don't have an issue with paying for much of the season content. The Training Camp stuff I saw alone was worth the cash.Yes, other sites are free. Their advice isnt nearly as good, though. And you'll almost certainly be bombarded with pop-ups and advertisements
I found that pretty amazing too. And you have to remember that this was only the first issue of the series.That said - I don't have an issue with paying for much of the season content. The Training Camp stuff I saw alone was worth the cash.
There are also free items under Tools, Stats, and other headings.thanks, thats what i was looking forClick the articles link at the top of the homepage. There are tons of free articles that will give you a taste of what the site offers. I think you can even see last years pay content for free - so you know what you'll be getting this year. You can also try the draft dominator for free - it just has older data, but it works great. No other site offers as much - no matter what the cost. Have a great season guy.
You play in big money leagues and you're worried about a piddling $25?ive played in big money league and still do, i would just like a sample of what im buying into before i get rid of the sunday morning dollar signs..link?Obviously this is for serious FF players only and mostly dynasty owners. If your winnings are $500 or greater than I recommend. If you are just playing for fun and the winner does not take $500 or more, then it's probably a waste of money.
I know. I write Fantasy content, so I'm a little..... I try to keep my standards high for myself, and others as well.But it was pretty good stuff -- as much as I follow the minutiae, I found something interesting on every page.I found that pretty amazing too. And you have to remember that this was only the first issue of the series.That said - I don't have an issue with paying for much of the season content. The Training Camp stuff I saw alone was worth the cash.
Can I get you a tissue??yeah when u can get the same quality stuff for free, i think this site is a little commerical dont u think, i came here looking for some good reading on the main page and its worst then a pentacostal priest looking for money during a sunday morning..i mean i cant even read one dang thing on the main page without paying somethingYeah, imagine that, a company trying to make money for a service. Ridiculous huh...........The only way to see the projections and anything worth vewing is too pay for it?
The IDP podcasts on the Audible are a must listen to for serious IDP players.One other great section that is absolutely FREE:
Podcasts!
I just started listening to these in the last few weeks, and there is a LOT of quality info here. (By the way, I loved the Podcast interview with Aaron Schatz from FootballOutsiders.com and author of Pro Football Prospectus. Props to FBG on that. Most other sites would cringe at bringing in anyone from outside websites/potential competition.)
Great to just turn one on and listen while you're browsing the latest FF news, posting on the forums, tweaking your rankings/projections, etc.
Absolutely. The camp info that's provided on the podcasts, plus the FREE 42 page Camp Report, Vol. 1, from Bob Henry (that you can find posted right on the main page, might I add), are fantastic resources, and more info than a lot of $Pay$ draft guides from other sites even provide.The IDP podcasts on the Audible are a must listen to for serious IDP players.One other great section that is absolutely FREE:
Podcasts!
I just started listening to these in the last few weeks, and there is a LOT of quality info here. (By the way, I loved the Podcast interview with Aaron Schatz from FootballOutsiders.com and author of Pro Football Prospectus. Props to FBG on that. Most other sites would cringe at bringing in anyone from outside websites/potential competition.)
Great to just turn one on and listen while you're browsing the latest FF news, posting on the forums, tweaking your rankings/projections, etc.
The beat writer shows on the Audible are my personal favorites. The info from these guys who follow the teams every day is priceless in my opinion.
Here is the complete list of every Audible episode.
Do PFP and the KUBIAK projections include IDP?Strange how many times I find that the owners that complain about paying $27 for FBG are the ones that have dropped more than $30 total on a bunch of out-of-date FF magazines.I am very frugal, but find that there are three things that are worth paying for if you're a serious fantasy footballer:1. FBG2. Pro Football Prospectus3. FootballOutsiders.com KUBIAK projections.If you're playing against a bunch of guppies, then you can still win with the good free stuff at other sites (including this forum). But if you're in a really competitive league, this site gives you the stuff to keep you one step ahead of the others.And this was before all of the amazing upgrades made this year.
http://footballguys.com/whysubscribe.htmThe link will let you see all of 2006 content, so you can get a good idea of what you get for your money.Lowen1 said:Click the articles link at the top of the homepage. There are tons of free articles that will give you a taste of what the site offers. I think you can even see last years pay content for free - so you know what you'll be getting this year. You can also try the draft dominator for free - it just has older data, but it works great.
No other site offers as much - no matter what the cost.
Have a great season guy.
Thank you NER,That's what I told him last night http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...789&hl=goodhttp://footballguys.com/whysubscribe.htmThe link will let you see all of 2006 content, so you can get a good idea of what you get for your money.Lowen1 said:Click the articles link at the top of the homepage. There are tons of free articles that will give you a taste of what the site offers. I think you can even see last years pay content for free - so you know what you'll be getting this year. You can also try the draft dominator for free - it just has older data, but it works great.
No other site offers as much - no matter what the cost.
Have a great season guy.
If it was just about projections, then I would not shell out $27 (should have done it during the early bird special for $21 )
Now getting to enter into the subscribers contest, getting the training camp reviews, the daily emails, an updated Draft Dominator, plus 30,000 pages of material to go through, that is worth the money! And it doesn't have to be for only those in big money leagues...that is just plain silly. If you love the game of football, this is the site to subscribe to!
JHi,
If you're new, you may not know. But anytime you post a "my middle finger to your face" type post, it's gone. Sorry if that's too uptight but that's just how we do it here.
If you're seriously looking for information about purchasing a subscription, this link has lots of information http://footballguys.com/whysubscribe.htm
Most importantly, it has links to all the content we did last season so you can see for yourself what kind of information you'd be getting. Good luck.
Honestly, the draft dominator by itself is worth the subscription cost. I don't think anyone can appreaciate it until they use it. Not only for the drafting itself, but for the time saving in keeping track of who has what.Guys continue to crack me up by coming on and bashing something before even trying it.To me, it's like getting steak on the buffet at Sizzler and then griping that you'd have to pay $27 for a steak at Mortons. I mean, it's all steak, right? :( My favoritesraft Dominatormessage boardsData DominatorTrainign Camp ReportsDraft DominatorSubscriber contestAnd oh, the Draft Dominator!
First year subscriber, last year read the message board.... let me walk you through this....1. Last year, message boards were a great help during the season, helped me nab D. Ryans early on before anyone else in my league even knew his name. In an IDP, thats huge!2. Realized, as others have said, the message boards alone are wirth the subscrition rate. 3. Tried the free draft dominator this offseason and saw some potentail there.4. since i almost felt guilty for all the use I got out of the message boards i decided to pony up during the early registration period and only paid $215. Have since realized that not only are message boards worth that price alone, I would also pay $21 just for the draft doninator. Throw in camp updates and being able to see the projects year round and your are golden. AND I HAVENT EVEN EXPERIENCE THE IN SEASON CONTENT YET! I'm sure there will be some good stuff there.Honestly, the draft dominator by itself is worth the subscription cost. I don't think anyone can appreaciate it until they use it. Not only for the drafting itself, but for the time saving in keeping track of who has what.Guys continue to crack me up by coming on and bashing something before even trying it.To me, it's like getting steak on the buffet at Sizzler and then griping that you'd have to pay $27 for a steak at Mortons. I mean, it's all steak, right? :( My favoritesraft Dominatormessage boardsData DominatorTrainign Camp ReportsDraft DominatorSubscriber contestAnd oh, the Draft Dominator!
Wow.....playing for 10 years and just now discovered this place?I just discovered the site about a month ago and listened to the Audible episodes and started coming on the message board. Yesterday I paid for my subscription. FBG is easily the best fantasy football site I've seen in the 10 years I've been playing. Too bad it took me a while to find it.
Then why are you here? IMO it's worth paying for. There are some real gems of articles in there, like the WR matrix for starters.i just cant see paying for something u can get for free on a ton of other sites
i drafted him too. you know who i blame?...............myselfI also just can't let Lamont Jordan at #8 last year go. I drafted him in my main money league & it really damaged my team, weeks on the WW digging out of that one.
i drafted him too. you know who i blame?...............myselfI also just can't let Lamont Jordan at #8 last year go. I drafted him in my main money league & it really damaged my team, weeks on the WW digging out of that one.
Falsified:This year, I did NOT join FBG's for the first time in several years, because the two leagues I'm in are $50 leagues and, well, I'm playing mostly for fun and competitive spirit. I think $27 is too much in that case for the incremental advantage I might get over opponents.I got ragged on big time two weeks ago when I posted that $27 seemed steep. So just get used to the fact that the apologists will always strongly support this site. Which is fine, by the way. (As long as they're polite about it, which many are not, unfortunately.) That said, if I played in a BIG money league, I'd take it seriously and probably pony up the $27. But I don't play fantasy football for money. It's for fun.ive played in big money league and still do, i would just like a sample of what im buying into before i get rid of the sunday morning dollar signs..link?Obviously this is for serious FF players only and mostly dynasty owners. If your winnings are $500 or greater than I recommend. If you are just playing for fun and the winner does not take $500 or more, then it's probably a waste of money.
That's my point exactly. Thanks for making it for me. You weighted his worth too much as I did based on the biased material here.Who will it be this year? Trav Henry? It certainly wasn't Mike Bell last year but there sure were a lot of FBG's that drafted him too I'll bet.i drafted him too. you know who i blame?...............myselfI also just can't let Lamont Jordan at #8 last year go. I drafted him in my main money league & it really damaged my team, weeks on the WW digging out of that one.
please don't imply that i'm in any way agreeing with you. that wasn't my point at all.you ------>That's my point exactly. Thanks for making it for me. You weighted his worth too much as I did based on the biased material here.i drafted him too. you know who i blame?...............myselfI also just can't let Lamont Jordan at #8 last year go. I drafted him in my main money league & it really damaged my team, weeks on the WW digging out of that one.