Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Agreed. I canonize the first two. But I don't hate the 3rd. In fact, the scenes between Kay and Michael are actually very, very good.
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FFA Movie Poll - 1974 Countdown Monday is here. (2 Viewers)
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Gr00vus
Footballguy
I thought he played it very well, except for the manic giggling. That needed to go.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
I love this visual.I hadn't had a chance to write up my thoughts, but I absolutely loved this movie. Took me about 30 seconds to know it was going to be fantastic. There's something special about a film that can seem simultaneously completely of its time yet also timeless. I had a lot of trouble watching Dreyfuss - I absolutely abhor people being fidgety, and his tics and twitches really got to me - but I understood why it made sense in context. It was a bold performance by him. (On a minor note, I also had a lot of trouble believing him as a 19-year-old when he looked more like early 30s.) In fact, brilliant performances by all the leads. By the way, has Jack Warden always been the same age?
This was great storytelling - it seemed complete but efficient. Not a moment wasted.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
A thing I liked about it is that there were several points where you thought you knew where they were going to take you with the story, but then they went a different direction, and in the end they took you to a place you probably didn't see coming completely, but made perfect sense once you got there. That was great writing.
I hadn't had a chance to write up my thoughts, but I absolutely loved this movie. Took me about 30 seconds to know it was going to be fantastic. There's something special about a film that can seem simultaneously completely of its time yet also timeless. I had a lot of trouble watching Dreyfuss - I absolutely abhor people being fidgety, and his tics and twitches really got to me - but I understood why it made sense in context. It was a bold performance by him. (On a minor note, I also had a lot of trouble believing him as a 19-year-old when he looked more like early 30s.) In fact, brilliant performances by all the leads. By the way, has Jack Warden always been the same age?
This was great storytelling - it seemed complete but efficient. Not a moment wasted.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
I immediately thought of this one and checked to see if I had the year right...yep!
The Illusionist. No, not the Edward Norton movie of around the same time, but the French animated one. With no dialogue. I mean, who doesn't love French animated movies set in Scotland with no dialogue?
Just trust me on this. Don't read too much about it - that little imdb synopsis will do - but just watch. It's pretty short IIRC. It's devastatingly beautiful, and devastating.
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Don Quixote
Footballguy
I was just taking a look at 2010 documentaries, and the first three that pop up are The Inside Job, Exit Through the Gift Shop, and Restrepo. That's quite a haul for one year. That does not even count some of the great 30 for 30s that may not qualify for this, like "The Two Escobars."
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Not sure how much we should dip into TV movies and docs. Then we have stuff like Ken Burns' docs entering in the fold.
I do agree with you about docs for that year. The three you mentioned are great, and this year also produced Marwencol, Waiting for Superman, Gasland, Waste Land, Catfish, Tabloid, Client 9, Louder than A Bomb, and The Tillman Story. Some really good stuff out there if people aren't in love with the typical movies out there.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Anyone catch the HBO special the Zen Diaries of Gary Schandling? Saw part 1. It's remarkable.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I watched Part II last night -- that was great. I need to go back to watch Part I.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Do tell.
I haven't seen it since it came out, so honestly don't remember a ton of details about it.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
I avoided the great TV "movies" for '74 - Miss Jane Pittman, Missiles of October & QB VII (which woulda been in my Top 10) - and intend to do the same in all subsequent years
Rodney, Robin & Gary Shandling are the three standups i cant think critically about - the first two cuz they just had the keys to my ticklebox, but Shandling because i always felt he adjusted the human condition in some way with every joke. Cant wait to see this
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
It's full of lies and is basically just a big puff piece for corporate charters, testing companies, etc. I often don't like documentaries because they almost always have an agenda. People take documentaries more seriously than scripted films so when docs distort the truth to tell their story, the audience often doesn't recognize it and just accepts the documentary as being accurate.Do tell.
I haven't seen it since it came out, so honestly don't remember a ton of details about it.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Now I am interested in watching it again with a fresh eye.
Docs are one of my favorite genres, but I have trouble rating them. I like just about all of them and get at least a little out of each, but unless it REALLY grabs me and sticks out, they do blur together a bit and I tend to not remember details. I get what you are talking about with them being slanted and I know that going in, but I get what you are saying in that a majority of the population might not take the time to think about that accept everything on the screen as gospel. People need to realize they are more on the lines of reality TV in that what you are seeing is just the 90mins of the hours and hours of footage that were shot, and just like any other filmmaker they are trying to tell a compelling story.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Couple days left and I am sure peeps like 80s and krista are working on theirs, but we are sitting at <20 lists and I've only gotten one in the last couple days.
Where are all these people who voted to have the 70s chopped up by individual years?
Where are all these people who voted to have the 70s chopped up by individual years?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Wife and I are watching Pelham 123- it’s pretty damn fun so farCouple days left and I am sure peeps like 80s and krista are working on theirs, but we are sitting at <20 lists and I've only gotten one in the last couple days.
Where are all these people who voted to have the 70s chopped up by individual years?
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Let's move on.Couple days left and I am sure peeps like 80s and krista are working on theirs, but we are sitting at <20 lists and I've only gotten one in the last couple days.
Where are all these people who voted to have the 70s chopped up by individual years?
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
They grew old and died.Couple days left and I am sure peeps like 80s and krista are working on theirs, but we are sitting at <20 lists and I've only gotten one in the last couple days.
Where are all these people who voted to have the 70s chopped up by individual years?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
This was one of the new ones that I did enjoy. The best of the fun, action movies on the year that I tried.
krista4
Footballguy
Well, considering it was the vast majority, I’d say they’re around. And I only recall one person saying they couldn’t participate due to the year chosen, and an equal number saying the same about 2010 so far.Couple days left and I am sure peeps like 80s and krista are working on theirs, but we are sitting at <20 lists and I've only gotten one in the last couple days.
Where are all these people who voted to have the 70s chopped up by individual years?
There’s a bit of a tension between the “submit my list immediately and move on” crew and those who want to take their time (I’ve vacillated between the two so not judging). I think there will be some attrition on that basis as well.
Why do we care how many lists are submitted? I’m more interested in the discussion that ensues.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
It was just my theory that the more lists we got, the less it would look like whatever random list pops up first on google. I thought it would spread the votes out more, have more surprises pop up on the countdown, and lead to slightly more discussion. That said, it does seem like there is more discussion pre-countdown than after anyway.
Mostly I was just
and being an ### because I was more in the camp of doing the 70s by decade and was nervous about a drop off in participation as we go back in time. I didn't realize how few I had until I just looked. I am sure more will come in over the weekend though. That said, there has been some great discussion in here already and people posting about movies they've tried for the poll, and that's what this is about.
El Floppo
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
Surprised! I thought it would be in your wheelhouse.
Speaking of stuff that should be in the wheelhouse but wasn't, and at risk of having @Eephus hate me forever, I couldn't get into The Yakuza despite its sounding like right up my alley. And even worse, I wasn't able to love Female Trouble despite being a Waters fan. On the latter, I think it was the pain of watching that singular manner of purposeful over-acting, by everyone. After a while I just couldn't stand it. I realize it's by design, like the Mamet non-acting acting is, but it pained me greatly.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Well, ok then.
Eephus
Footballguy
The acting in Female Trouble is definitely bad but it's usually not the first thing mentioned by people who don't like the film
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
Too bad it won’t make the list, so we could see what kind of negative review KP could pull up.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Am I weird that I haven't had to watch anything yet because I've seen so many of these movies? I will grant I don't remember every single scene but it only takes me a quick search to jar loose the stored memories of seeing all of these movies.
That and I am a fairly opinionated and rigid conservative who isn't fond of change.
That and I am a fairly opinionated and rigid conservative who isn't fond of change.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
This is basically where I am as well. For whatever reason, the only years that I am probably going to have issues with are the 70s. I have 3-4 for most years, but can't go much deeper than that with stuff I liked or remember enough to bother ranking. For '99 I had about 35-40 after I looked at the list of docs, same with the year we will do after that.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I don't think it's odd that some of you have seen so many of these movies, but I do find it a little odd that you and El Floppo are able to or just prefer to go off of memory for these. A big part that I find interesting is going back and seeing how some of these movies hold up vs. how I have them in my mind. So many have flipped rankings for me. Sometimes it's sad as I watch these flicks I hold dear in my memory from my youth and realize they aren't that great, but mostly I still enjoy the process.Yankee23Fan said:
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Oh, and maybe if you revisited some of these movies, you wouldn't be so quick to want to move on to the next year.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
I have and have always had Exquisite taste. I don't need to go back and challenge it.
I also don't have the time or energy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
taste this exquisitely, rabid Anti-Duddyite!
El Floppo
Footballguy
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