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FFA Movie Poll - 1984 Lists Due 7/29 (1 Viewer)
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Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
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krista4
Footballguy
Just put it together based on what other people have mentioned in the thread. No time for outside research or to watch any I hadn't seen yet (though will still watch The Hit since I signed up for that damn Filmstruck subscription just to watch it!). As a result, it's definitely my most mainstream list so far.
Top Tier, getting 29 points each - rock me, Amadeus!
Blood Simple
Body Double
This is Spinal Tap
The Killing Fields
Amadeus
Others I also loved but will only get 5 points each:
Stranger Than Paradise
Under the Volcano
Gremlins
Ghostbusters
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
The Terminator
Beverly Hills Cop
A Soldier’s Story
Purple Rain
The Lonely Guy
28 Up
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
My list:
30pts: Karate Kid, Stop Making Sense
20pts: Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop, The Terminator, Blood Simple, Amadeus
10pts: This Is Spinal Tap, The Killing Fields
5pts: Paris Texas, Footloose, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Gremlins
30pts: Karate Kid, Stop Making Sense
20pts: Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop, The Terminator, Blood Simple, Amadeus
10pts: This Is Spinal Tap, The Killing Fields
5pts: Paris Texas, Footloose, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Gremlins
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
oh #### ...I had forgotten that this was a year for the "Up" series. Nice catch Krista.
krista4
Footballguy
Credit to @wikkidpissah for that. I didn't realize it either but saw it on his list. IIRC 28 Up was one of the best ones.
krista4
Footballguy
I will add yours in. The bolded isn't a requirement.
Yeah, but it's a lot more fun when you do. I've watched some fantastic movies due to these threads.ETA: Might be fun when we're done to make a list of favorite movies we watched only because of recommendations in these threads.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I like that idea.
ETA: Might be fun when we're done to make a list of favorite movies we watched only because of recommendations in these threads.
ETA: Remind me of that in about 19 months when we finish this project...
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Gr00vus
Footballguy
Bring in Feyd and Rabban...
This Is Spinal Tap 30
The Natural 30
Dune 28
Johnny Dangerously 25
The Terminator 25
The Flamingo Kid 15
Sixteen Candles 15
Revenge Of The Nerds 10
Romancing The Stone 5
The Killing Fields 5
Bachelor Party 3
The Karate Kid 3
Purple Rain 2
The Cotton Club 2
The Adventures Of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension 2
The Natural 30
Dune 28
Johnny Dangerously 25
The Terminator 25
The Flamingo Kid 15
Sixteen Candles 15
Revenge Of The Nerds 10
Romancing The Stone 5
The Killing Fields 5
Bachelor Party 3
The Karate Kid 3
Purple Rain 2
The Cotton Club 2
The Adventures Of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension 2
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
<_<
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Feel free to ignore my list. I didn't realize things had moved on to 1984 until now. Been a bit busy.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
You're good just giving you ####. However after your list....
The polls are now closed, and the votes are tallied!
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
We had a little better turn out this time around, and we got 22 lists. The most votes received for a movie was 19 of those 22.
Using the 50pts barrier gives us 24 movies. I am going to start up the first wave of the countdown tonight, and also set up the thread for 2007 so people can start with that since we are doing the 2 week schedule. I will probably end up finishing the countdown for this on Tuesday though.
Using the 50pts barrier gives us 24 movies. I am going to start up the first wave of the countdown tonight, and also set up the thread for 2007 so people can start with that since we are doing the 2 week schedule. I will probably end up finishing the countdown for this on Tuesday though.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
#24 50pts
9 votes
Among the Worst Movies of All Time
Police Academy is not only a waste of money, it's a waste of time. Don't waste either on this truly horrendous so-called comedy. There is not a single laugh in the entire movie.
This movie is so bad that I would hesitate to see any movie with any of the cast, or produced by the same producers, or with the same director.
Perhaps if you're someone who has never been to a movie you might find this one interesting. But like I said, and it's worth repeating: Don't waste your money! Don't waste your time! I only wish Netflix and IMDb would let me rate it a zero, instead of an undeserved one.
Here are my opening two lines again: Police Academy is not only a waste of money, it's a waste of time. Don't waste either on this truly horrendous so-called comedy. There is not a single laugh in the entire movie.
POLICE ACADEMY
9 votes
Among the Worst Movies of All Time
Police Academy is not only a waste of money, it's a waste of time. Don't waste either on this truly horrendous so-called comedy. There is not a single laugh in the entire movie.
This movie is so bad that I would hesitate to see any movie with any of the cast, or produced by the same producers, or with the same director.
Perhaps if you're someone who has never been to a movie you might find this one interesting. But like I said, and it's worth repeating: Don't waste your money! Don't waste your time! I only wish Netflix and IMDb would let me rate it a zero, instead of an undeserved one.
Here are my opening two lines again: Police Academy is not only a waste of money, it's a waste of time. Don't waste either on this truly horrendous so-called comedy. There is not a single laugh in the entire movie.
POLICE ACADEMY
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
#23 58pts
8 votes
A Reaganite's wet dream
Red Dawn is 1980s right-wing cinema at its best, if you could call it that. Considering the time frame, the film becomes all the more ridiculous.
An emboldened Soviet Union (in actuality on the verge of collapse at the time) invades the United States with her Cuban (another country with a teetering infrastructure) and Latin American allies. Following a successful invasion and occupation of large portions of America, a group of then-current teen heart throbs form a guerrilla resistance against the Commies.
At the risk of sounding like a far-left Communist sympathizer, which I am not, the paranoia that the conservative screenwriters had is striking. I wish I could have reminded them that the United States in prior history sent military expeditions into Russia in 1918 and trained Cuban exiles to invade Cuba in 1961.
Politics aside, this is just a bad movie. The ludicrous storyline about high school kids fighting off a huge Soviet war machine is simply too unbelievable, even for cinematic standards. The acting by the young ensemble actors is poor throughout, one notable instance being when the teary eyed boys visit their captured father. The dialogue, particularly, exemplifies atrocious writing;
"WOLVERINES!!!"
"Not bad for a bunch of kids, huh?" "Mama would be real proud."
"They're gonna kill us! All of us!" "So why should we be different."
Still, Red Dawn does have some merit as an encapsulating piece of a political atmosphere that ran rampant over America, much like the Russians in the movie.
RED DAWN
8 votes
A Reaganite's wet dream
Red Dawn is 1980s right-wing cinema at its best, if you could call it that. Considering the time frame, the film becomes all the more ridiculous.
An emboldened Soviet Union (in actuality on the verge of collapse at the time) invades the United States with her Cuban (another country with a teetering infrastructure) and Latin American allies. Following a successful invasion and occupation of large portions of America, a group of then-current teen heart throbs form a guerrilla resistance against the Commies.
At the risk of sounding like a far-left Communist sympathizer, which I am not, the paranoia that the conservative screenwriters had is striking. I wish I could have reminded them that the United States in prior history sent military expeditions into Russia in 1918 and trained Cuban exiles to invade Cuba in 1961.
Politics aside, this is just a bad movie. The ludicrous storyline about high school kids fighting off a huge Soviet war machine is simply too unbelievable, even for cinematic standards. The acting by the young ensemble actors is poor throughout, one notable instance being when the teary eyed boys visit their captured father. The dialogue, particularly, exemplifies atrocious writing;
"WOLVERINES!!!"
"Not bad for a bunch of kids, huh?" "Mama would be real proud."
"They're gonna kill us! All of us!" "So why should we be different."
Still, Red Dawn does have some merit as an encapsulating piece of a political atmosphere that ran rampant over America, much like the Russians in the movie.
RED DAWN
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
next up we have a tie..
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
T-#21 59pts
4 votes
spoiler ahead: this movie is s**t
the review needs to contain ten lines minimum.
How can anyone write a review exceeding ten lines if the script consists of less. The lines with most tension were the credit lines.
its that easy to make money out of nothing but stupid dresses, dialogues and characters. this movie is like patches from outtakes and deleted scenes of a real SF movie. the actors must have needed the money that bad. Maybe because of excessive drug use.
Spock is dead. but still kirk and his consorts are looking for him behind cheap scenery, because he maybe not really dead at all. this movie is so bad that it is my duty to warn you not to watch it.
bad, worse, star trek
STAR TREK III: THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK
4 votes
spoiler ahead: this movie is s**t
the review needs to contain ten lines minimum.
How can anyone write a review exceeding ten lines if the script consists of less. The lines with most tension were the credit lines.
its that easy to make money out of nothing but stupid dresses, dialogues and characters. this movie is like patches from outtakes and deleted scenes of a real SF movie. the actors must have needed the money that bad. Maybe because of excessive drug use.
Spock is dead. but still kirk and his consorts are looking for him behind cheap scenery, because he maybe not really dead at all. this movie is so bad that it is my duty to warn you not to watch it.
bad, worse, star trek
STAR TREK III: THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
T-#21 59pts
6 votes
Comically Horrible!
coljam2115 November 2013
I was 4 years old when this movie premiered. Fast-forward 29 years, I've seen listed on the channel guide a bunch of times while channel surfing but was never interested in watching it. I love Prince's music (or Symbol or wherever he's choosing to call himself these days). I also love the 80's. I think it was the most awesome era with the most awesome music and fashion. OK now that I got my disclaimer out of the way I can say I thought this movie was terrible.
The thing is, they tried to make this movie into a serious biopic using a main cast that never took an acting class (save Clarence Williams III). Prince's performance was comical. I couldn't help but chuckle at his lack of screen presence and the feeble attempt he made to incite emotion from the viewers by staring blankly into the camera every chance he got. The only reaction he got from me was a few laughs.
There was one part of the movie where he jumped on his purple pony puff princess bike and drove around aimlessly then stopped near a lake and jumped onto a berm with his high heels then squatted down (I guess into the thinking man's pose) and gazed at the lake as if deep in thought. Bwahaha! I was thinking to myself he must have strained a few blood vessels in his brain trying to pull off that look.
Alas I had to switch the channel when the love making scene between him and Apollonia in the barn came on. As if the atrocious acting and man high heels were not enough now I have to suffer through a stiff, love making scene in a barn in the middle of the city. Yeah I'll pass.
PURPLE RAIN
6 votes
Comically Horrible!
coljam2115 November 2013
I was 4 years old when this movie premiered. Fast-forward 29 years, I've seen listed on the channel guide a bunch of times while channel surfing but was never interested in watching it. I love Prince's music (or Symbol or wherever he's choosing to call himself these days). I also love the 80's. I think it was the most awesome era with the most awesome music and fashion. OK now that I got my disclaimer out of the way I can say I thought this movie was terrible.
The thing is, they tried to make this movie into a serious biopic using a main cast that never took an acting class (save Clarence Williams III). Prince's performance was comical. I couldn't help but chuckle at his lack of screen presence and the feeble attempt he made to incite emotion from the viewers by staring blankly into the camera every chance he got. The only reaction he got from me was a few laughs.
There was one part of the movie where he jumped on his purple pony puff princess bike and drove around aimlessly then stopped near a lake and jumped onto a berm with his high heels then squatted down (I guess into the thinking man's pose) and gazed at the lake as if deep in thought. Bwahaha! I was thinking to myself he must have strained a few blood vessels in his brain trying to pull off that look.
Alas I had to switch the channel when the love making scene between him and Apollonia in the barn came on. As if the atrocious acting and man high heels were not enough now I have to suffer through a stiff, love making scene in a barn in the middle of the city. Yeah I'll pass.
PURPLE RAIN
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Footballguy
Yankee23 internet explosion in 1, 2, 3...
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Footballguy
#20 64pts
5 votes
Easily, one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
A one is the highest rating I could have given this movie, considering zero and negative numbers are not allowed. Pee yew, pointless mess of a movie with a lot of wasted b-list actors who have done better work, written and directed by some guy with the mentality of a twelve year old who smirks and giggles at stupid puns, and poop and fart jokes. For example, Gene Stapelton's (Ding-Bat from All in the Family) character telling Marilu Henner's character that she "swings both ways" sexually, was a cheap attempt at humor indicative of the general lameness of the movie... You want good, cheeky humor? Rent Animal House, American Pie (part one only), Old School or Office Space.
JOHNNY DANGEROUSLY
5 votes
Easily, one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
A one is the highest rating I could have given this movie, considering zero and negative numbers are not allowed. Pee yew, pointless mess of a movie with a lot of wasted b-list actors who have done better work, written and directed by some guy with the mentality of a twelve year old who smirks and giggles at stupid puns, and poop and fart jokes. For example, Gene Stapelton's (Ding-Bat from All in the Family) character telling Marilu Henner's character that she "swings both ways" sexually, was a cheap attempt at humor indicative of the general lameness of the movie... You want good, cheeky humor? Rent Animal House, American Pie (part one only), Old School or Office Space.
JOHNNY DANGEROUSLY
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
#19 67pts
8 votes
Nerdiness used as an excuse for misogyny
The 1980s were different times in terms of gender politics, but even by 80s standards, this film is horribly misogynistic. In it a group of college men put video cameras into a women's sorority house and sit around watching the footage all night, celebrating each time they see a female student's breasts or snatch. It gets worse. In order to win a college competition, they sell photographs of one of the women topless. It gets worse. One of the men tricks this same woman into having sex with him by dressing in the costume her boyfriend is wearing. This rape, is not simply treated comedically (like the other sexism), but the victim enjoys it so much she ditches her boyfriend and decides to go out with her attacker. The men involved in all these events are the heroes of the film. As nerds, the film positions them as the victims of discrimination and harassment from the jocks. As viewers, we are clearly invoked to desire and enjoy their revenge against their oppressors. Yet, their most extreme acts of revenge are enacted against the women. Women who are given little or no characterisation. These nerd heroes are mostly white and middle-class, yet they are constructed like an oppressed ethnicity. The fraternity they join is all black until they open their chapter. The climax of the film is a speech in which the central nerd declares 'I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds. I mean uh, all our lives we've been laughed at and made to feel inferior. ... Why? Because we're smart? Because we look different? Well, we're not. I'm a nerd, and uh, I'm pretty proud of it.' This is nerd identity politics, which puts their experiences on a level with groups who unlike nerds have the weight of social structures against them (women, African Americans, LGBTQI etc). This positioning serves in the film as a cover for misogyny.
REVENGE OF THE NERDS
8 votes
Nerdiness used as an excuse for misogyny
The 1980s were different times in terms of gender politics, but even by 80s standards, this film is horribly misogynistic. In it a group of college men put video cameras into a women's sorority house and sit around watching the footage all night, celebrating each time they see a female student's breasts or snatch. It gets worse. In order to win a college competition, they sell photographs of one of the women topless. It gets worse. One of the men tricks this same woman into having sex with him by dressing in the costume her boyfriend is wearing. This rape, is not simply treated comedically (like the other sexism), but the victim enjoys it so much she ditches her boyfriend and decides to go out with her attacker. The men involved in all these events are the heroes of the film. As nerds, the film positions them as the victims of discrimination and harassment from the jocks. As viewers, we are clearly invoked to desire and enjoy their revenge against their oppressors. Yet, their most extreme acts of revenge are enacted against the women. Women who are given little or no characterisation. These nerd heroes are mostly white and middle-class, yet they are constructed like an oppressed ethnicity. The fraternity they join is all black until they open their chapter. The climax of the film is a speech in which the central nerd declares 'I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds. I mean uh, all our lives we've been laughed at and made to feel inferior. ... Why? Because we're smart? Because we look different? Well, we're not. I'm a nerd, and uh, I'm pretty proud of it.' This is nerd identity politics, which puts their experiences on a level with groups who unlike nerds have the weight of social structures against them (women, African Americans, LGBTQI etc). This positioning serves in the film as a cover for misogyny.
REVENGE OF THE NERDS
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
#18 73pts
8 votes
Movies like this should not be made.
This film really shows that Wes Craven is disturbed, and I heard that he has a strong Christian background.All he does with this film is promote the notion that evil is more powerful than good, its sickening to watch this movie, it has no morality and glorifies murder. I would not have minded so much if the evil one in the film met with a gruesome end (I think the killers in these films should die the worst)but in this film evil does not die and it really is an evil experience to watch this film.I know that its a horror movie, but I think thats why it should be judged more harshly. If your going to show all that horror, you have to show that in the end the evil one is going to get it the worst and be destroyed.If you don't your telling society that evil cannot be destroyed, which is not true.-10(should be banned)
A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET
8 votes
Movies like this should not be made.
This film really shows that Wes Craven is disturbed, and I heard that he has a strong Christian background.All he does with this film is promote the notion that evil is more powerful than good, its sickening to watch this movie, it has no morality and glorifies murder. I would not have minded so much if the evil one in the film met with a gruesome end (I think the killers in these films should die the worst)but in this film evil does not die and it really is an evil experience to watch this film.I know that its a horror movie, but I think thats why it should be judged more harshly. If your going to show all that horror, you have to show that in the end the evil one is going to get it the worst and be destroyed.If you don't your telling society that evil cannot be destroyed, which is not true.-10(should be banned)
A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
#17 75pts
8 votes
terrible.
this movie is one of the biggest rip-offs i've ever seen. hmm, let's think, where have i seen this before...hmmm....oh yeah! indiana jones maybe??? only the indiana jones movies were fantastic. romancing the stone just plain sucks. i feel sorry for any of you who commented on how great it was. you lead very sad lived indeed. this movie makes me want to commit suicide. don't try to copy harrison ford. ever. it's just not going to happen. this movie is ######. stupid. stupid. stupid stupid. never watch this movie!!! ever! i have to fill up ten lines so i'm typing randomly! ahh! this movie sucks! awful! romancing the stone? who would watch it anyway??? i remember being forced top watch it and going into a coma shortly afterward.
ROMANCING THE STONE
8 votes
terrible.
this movie is one of the biggest rip-offs i've ever seen. hmm, let's think, where have i seen this before...hmmm....oh yeah! indiana jones maybe??? only the indiana jones movies were fantastic. romancing the stone just plain sucks. i feel sorry for any of you who commented on how great it was. you lead very sad lived indeed. this movie makes me want to commit suicide. don't try to copy harrison ford. ever. it's just not going to happen. this movie is ######. stupid. stupid. stupid stupid. never watch this movie!!! ever! i have to fill up ten lines so i'm typing randomly! ahh! this movie sucks! awful! romancing the stone? who would watch it anyway??? i remember being forced top watch it and going into a coma shortly afterward.
ROMANCING THE STONE
Gr00vus
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
#16 76pts
5 votes
Oh, My Eyes! Ow, My Eyes!
I would say this is the third-worst film ever made. It is a horrifyingly bad fantasy film that steals story elements from "Brigadoon" and "Star Wars" while paving a gruesome road for much better films in the future (films like "The Pagemaster").
The special effects are dismally extravagant at times, but frighteningly cheap at others. The best performance in here is from Noah Hathaway as a nauseatingly whiny young warrior whose swamp-bound sobbing could drive a harpy deaf. Then you have Falkor, the magical Luck Dragon who befriends the hero of the film, a timid but obnoxious little boy named Bastian.
The idea of the parallels between the world of the book and Bastian's real life existence was not a good idea-- if you're interested in things like that, move along to Kevin Crossley-Holland's phenomenal "Arthur" books. Plus the existing sequels cheapen the film and polish up the fact that it never was any good.
Oh, and one more thing: the theme song to this movie is *sickening*. Absolutely *sickening*. Two seconds in, you're clutching that air sickness bag that I sincerely hope you brought with you.
THE NEVERENDING STORY
5 votes
Oh, My Eyes! Ow, My Eyes!
I would say this is the third-worst film ever made. It is a horrifyingly bad fantasy film that steals story elements from "Brigadoon" and "Star Wars" while paving a gruesome road for much better films in the future (films like "The Pagemaster").
The special effects are dismally extravagant at times, but frighteningly cheap at others. The best performance in here is from Noah Hathaway as a nauseatingly whiny young warrior whose swamp-bound sobbing could drive a harpy deaf. Then you have Falkor, the magical Luck Dragon who befriends the hero of the film, a timid but obnoxious little boy named Bastian.
The idea of the parallels between the world of the book and Bastian's real life existence was not a good idea-- if you're interested in things like that, move along to Kevin Crossley-Holland's phenomenal "Arthur" books. Plus the existing sequels cheapen the film and polish up the fact that it never was any good.
Oh, and one more thing: the theme song to this movie is *sickening*. Absolutely *sickening*. Two seconds in, you're clutching that air sickness bag that I sincerely hope you brought with you.
THE NEVERENDING STORY
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Footballguy
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Footballguy
#15 77pts
7 votes
Tripe
I had to sit through this video- of a concert by the title group recently. I can't see what all the fuss about this group was. The vocals are lame, their playing is amateurish and they have no stage persona at all. How can a good director like Demme squander his talents on an extended MTV style video like this? As you probably have guessed by now, I do not like this group. As a matter of fact, I HATE them. Yet for some reason, the music critics just loved them. I remember them fawning over them in the 1980s. I just didn't get it then just as I can't get it now. Music is highly unoriginal and seemed to rehash almost everything pop music threw at us then. The front man David Byrne has just about as much charisma as a faceless musician on a "Muzak" recording session, that is if real artists actually did these recordings at all. Not worth your time. In plain English, this film sucks.I really do not like to use vulgar langusage on my reviews, but I could not think of a better word to describe this garbage. Zero stars.
STOP MAKING SENSE
7 votes
Tripe
I had to sit through this video- of a concert by the title group recently. I can't see what all the fuss about this group was. The vocals are lame, their playing is amateurish and they have no stage persona at all. How can a good director like Demme squander his talents on an extended MTV style video like this? As you probably have guessed by now, I do not like this group. As a matter of fact, I HATE them. Yet for some reason, the music critics just loved them. I remember them fawning over them in the 1980s. I just didn't get it then just as I can't get it now. Music is highly unoriginal and seemed to rehash almost everything pop music threw at us then. The front man David Byrne has just about as much charisma as a faceless musician on a "Muzak" recording session, that is if real artists actually did these recordings at all. Not worth your time. In plain English, this film sucks.I really do not like to use vulgar langusage on my reviews, but I could not think of a better word to describe this garbage. Zero stars.
STOP MAKING SENSE
Gr00vus
Footballguy
That there is one of the most wrongheaded reviews you've highlighted in all of these various years. Nice work.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Odd cutoff, but I am going to stop there. The rest of the movies all got at least 100pts, so that's why I will pause here.
Despite how bad this list could have looked with the mass amount of 80s cheese to pick from, I think the top 15 ended up as one of the better ones we've seen and has a really nice mix of movies.
Despite how bad this list could have looked with the mass amount of 80s cheese to pick from, I think the top 15 ended up as one of the better ones we've seen and has a really nice mix of movies.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Amazingly, they let him make another film. Well, no so amazing given how much money this one made, but still.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
The Search For Spock was made on a budget smaller than they allow for sandwiches on a film made today.
And yet it has some of the best Trek has to offer - Stealing the Enterprise, a great Klingon villain, the death of the Enterprise...
And yet it has some of the best Trek has to offer - Stealing the Enterprise, a great Klingon villain, the death of the Enterprise...
simey
Footballguy
I gave it points cause I love the music in it, and I love seeing Prince do his dance moves. He was sexy and mysterious. I find him intriguing, even if it is on the silver screen doing bad acting. The movie has its place in pop culture. In 1984, he had the #1 single, album, and movie. The world was raining purple.
Brony
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I have to admit that this movie really did become outdated and it's extremely weird that a form of rape is celebrated as a victory for our "heroes".
El Floppo
Footballguy
I took a film course in college about foreign filmmakers movies about America. Dont remember the whole curriculum and if this was on it, but it was really interesting seeing such distinct views of America from outsiders' POV.
Iirc, strozcek, Atlantic City, north by northwest... dammit...wish I kept the curriculum- saw a lot of good films in that.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That is an interesting once since Hitch set so many of his movies in America that I sometimes forget he's not American. Also, in his films, I don't notice much of a difference in how he handles Americans and Brits. Even though it is set in Austria, The Third Man's central character is American and it is a pretty scathing take on America's bumbling naivete.
El Floppo
Footballguy
That review was sadly not off base.
More sadly... after watching that thing at least ten times including in the theater and including part 2 (Courtney t Smith was a tangential friend from HS), it never occured to me until reading it.
Given our demographic, I assumed thered be a lot of nostalgic over quality picks for these years- so don't begrudge anyone for picking this (I did) or some of the others that I remember liking ok in the theaters (red dawn, Star trek, etc). Again- I distinctly remember walking out of the theater as a teenager after Purple Rain and thinking that other the the on-stage footage it was absolutely drek. And needed way more Morris Day.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I should point out- the outsiders view wasn't really showing the faults of America or Americans as much as painting the picture in a way not seen so much from natives. their perspective as outsiders allowed them distinct viewpoints...or at least, that was the point of the class.
Ntnw i think was picked because it covered so much ground showing the country.
Strozcek is the one that really got under my skin, but I haven't seen it since and only remember a scene or two.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
In watching Paris, I am not sure that I got any special examination of America. I definitely got a reverence for the size, scale and matching ambition of the country as well as a clear love for American technicolor movies- especially westerns like Shane and The Searchers. I will have to check out Stroczek. Everything I have seen from Herzog so far has been really special.
heckmanm
Footballguy
...who also doesn't realize that Jean and Maureen Stapleton are different people (and not even related)
Brony
Footballguy
It didn't have to be like that. But the Pi's drew first blood sending pigs into the Lambda's bash.
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