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He'll give him a go eventually.
Hopefully that's week 9! I've got to decide between keeping him or Pittman after the Miami game--so I'm counting on Shanahan giving some indication in that one week which way he intends to go...He'll give him a go eventually.
In both my 10 and 12 team leagues, only Hall and Torain are on the waiver wire. Pittman shouldn't be on ANY 10-team or higher waiver wires.Michael Pittman, Selvin Young, Andre Hall.Have a chance? Check.On the waiver wire? Probably.The key is that he has a *chance*, which really can't be said for any other RB on most people's waiver wire.
Uh oh. You sir, have never had a Denver RB on your roster before.Hopefully that's week 9! I've got to decide between keeping him or Pittman after the Miami game--so I'm counting on Shanahan giving some indication in that one week which way he intends to go...He'll give him a go eventually.
Wow. I can't believe the Torain hype here. Don't get me wrong - I've got him on my bench as a flier too, but someone like McLain is a known quantity, and aside from 1 bad game, he's been pretty reliable.No way would I drop McClain for Torain at this venture. But good luck, all the sameJust picked him up - welcome to my bench Torain...see ya McClain...
Depends on how badly you're leaning on that roster sopt. If McLain is your starter, flex, or spot starter then no - I probably wouldn't cut loose a known quantity for an unknown. However, Torrain clearly has more upside than McLain this season as well as in the future in keeper leagues. If McLain is languishing on the end of my bench, I'd drop him for Torrain in a Denver minute. JMHOWow. I can't believe the Torain hype here. Don't get me wrong - I've got him on my bench as a flier too, but someone like McLain is a known quantity, and aside from 1 bad game, he's been pretty reliable.No way would I drop McClain for Torain at this venture. But good luck, all the sameJust picked him up - welcome to my bench Torain...see ya McClain...
as bad as the ravens offense has looked I would rather have 1/3 to half od the den rb stats/upside than anyone not named Macgahee. And Even then it's close.Wow. I can't believe the Torain hype here. Don't get me wrong - I've got him on my bench as a flier too, but someone like McLain is a known quantity, and aside from 1 bad game, he's been pretty reliable.No way would I drop McClain for Torain at this venture. But good luck, all the sameJust picked him up - welcome to my bench Torain...see ya McClain...
It has been quite awhile! I really would have preferred to wait one more week to get two games with Torain active before having to decide--but would not have gotten Pittman to cover him this week, and that was key to the plan.nzranger said:Uh oh. You sir, have never had a Denver RB on your roster before.Hopefully that's week 9! I've got to decide between keeping him or Pittman after the Miami game--so I'm counting on Shanahan giving some indication in that one week which way he intends to go...He'll give him a go eventually.
It's an upside play...I already have Gore, LJ, McGahee and Turner the Burner....Baltimore has looked like crapola with Flacco so I doubt I would ever start McClain. And I agree - McClain is a known quantity...a goaline back only. Akin to having Lendale White at this point. I'm either playing McGahee or if he's hurt I want no part of guessing between Rice and McClain. So taking a shot at a 50/50 Den back or possibly featured Den RB makes sense. Let someone else "guess" if McClain will get a goaline carry week to week.BaBastage said:Wow. I can't believe the Torain hype here. Don't get me wrong - I've got him on my bench as a flier too, but someone like McLain is a known quantity, and aside from 1 bad game, he's been pretty reliable.No way would I drop McClain for Torain at this venture. But good luck, all the sameRomofan said:Just picked him up - welcome to my bench Torain...see ya McClain...
drip drip dripHaters wanna hate, lovers wanna loveI don't even want none of the above...
Good point regarding dynasty league value. I'm not sold that he'll outperform McClain through the rest of this year (I'm in a redraft).But he's been more than a goal line back. McClain's games his year have been:CIN 86 yards, 0 td'sCLE 66 yards, 2 td'sPIT 63 yards, 1 td'sTEN 51 yards, 1 td'sIND -2 yards, 0 td'sHe does appear to be trending downward, so that might be a concern.But since Torain's on my Roster, let's hope I'm wrong! Thanks for the healthy discussion!It's an upside play...I already have Gore, LJ, McGahee and Turner the Burner....Baltimore has looked like crapola with Flacco so I doubt I would ever start McClain. And I agree - McClain is a known quantity...a goaline back only. Akin to having Lendale White at this point. I'm either playing McGahee or if he's hurt I want no part of guessing between Rice and McClain. So taking a shot at a 50/50 Den back or possibly featured Den RB makes sense. Let someone else "guess" if McClain will get a goaline carry week to week.BaBastage said:Wow. I can't believe the Torain hype here. Don't get me wrong - I've got him on my bench as a flier too, but someone like McLain is a known quantity, and aside from 1 bad game, he's been pretty reliable.No way would I drop McClain for Torain at this venture. But good luck, all the sameRomofan said:Just picked him up - welcome to my bench Torain...see ya McClain...
I want to on youdrip drip dripHaters wanna hate, lovers wanna loveI don't even want none of the above...
I'm curious as well Bye Bye Sproles - Hello TorainDid Torrain wipe his BVTT today? I just picked him ip on Waivers yesterday and would like to be keep aprised of all matters including BM's.
I thought he missed the first part of the season b/c they were doing his bust already.What year is he scheduled to go into the NFL hall of fame? anyone get word yet?
Really...these kind of takes are getting tired... ALL players go into the league without having "even taken a snap in the preseason, let alone a regular-season game". That's why they call them rookies.BustedKnuckles said:Unclear where RB Torain will fit in Broncos' backfield
By Dan Parr
Oct. 16, 2008
There are high, and some might say delusional, expectations for a player who never even has taken a snap in the preseason, let alone a regular-season game.
You have Lyndon Baines Johnson on your fantasy squad............. awesome!and LBJ
LinkI’m BACK.
And it feels great. It’s been a looooong time. When you add the couple of months I’ve been out here to the fact that I couldn’t play the end of my senior season, it’s about to be a full year since I’ve been on the field for a game. So being back at practice is great. That’s the only word to describe it. Great. I’m excited, just conversing with the guys, being out there, joking around — just having a great time.
I finally got to do it myself. That’s the difference. When you’re watching practice, you envision it and you wish you could do it. When you’re out there, you get to fulfill what you’ve been doing your whole life. And I didn’t get too winded when I was out there the past two days either, and I credit that to the trainers and how hard Coach Tuten’s been helping me condition since the injury.
As all of you know if you’ve been reading my blog, I’ve been itching to get out there for quite some time. I’ve been staying in meetings — I haven’t missed one since camp — lifting weights while the team was practicing, conditioning in the mornings with Coach Tuten and just doing everything EXCEPT playing.
Now all that’s gone and I’m just with the team. It feels good. It’s a good release now that I’m back on the field playing football. Like I told people after my first practice on Wednesday, it was huge for me mentally to get out there. It just relaxed me, getting back on the grass with some cleats and a ball. That’s all I needed.
I mean, that’s not ALL I need. Practice is great, but when I get to that game, it’s going to be even more of an energy burst.
I doubt that I’ll play Monday against the Patriots, but that’s going to be an experience by itself. Monday Night Football against one of the better teams recently in the NFL. It won’t be that much harder for me on the sideline, even though now I know exactly what I’d do if I was in the game in certain situations. I’ve just got to stay patient because I know I’m going to be out there soon. For now, I’m just helping the team out any way I can, as always.
So I’m excited. As you can tell. On a side note, sorry I’ve gotten away from answering some of your questions, but you all haven’t been asking me many lately. Let’s get that going again on both sides.
Check in next week, and until then my grandmother — Grammies — said it best.
I'd compare him to a raw version of Larry Johnson or Clinton Portis.Give me a scouting report on this guy. IF he was No. 1, what would you expect? Is he a 3-down back? Is he a power back?
Yeah, my team is 1-5 also.Picked him up, too, this week.:fingers crossed:
Pittman's not firmly entrenched as the anything. Pittman got the carries because Young was out. Pittman made a bid for more carries... but Young's averaging 5.7 ypc in limited action. Clearly that's working pretty well for him. When a back is averaging 5.7 ypc in a certain role, you don't cut that role to make more room for another back who is averaging 4.7 ypc. Young's going to keep getting his limited action until Pittman shows more than he showed last week.Also, I don't think Pittman has done anything to make the starter's seat safe from Torain. Pittman might be able to hold that seat once Torain returns, but he's not firmly entrenched. He's going to see some serious competition once Torain's back.As far as Torains prospects are concerned, I see good and bad in the emergence of Pittman in the Denver backfield.On the negative side, Pittman appears to be firmly entrenched as the starter, even when Torain gets back on the field.On the positive side, it shows that Shanahan is open to having a single horse carrying this cart.
Torain has more upside. After a brief flirtation with the idea of giving Young more carries, Shanahan decided to stick with his "best in limited action" guns. Young won't get the carry bulk to really be a high-upside kind of guy. Torain might not, either... but upside's about what you MIGHT do, not what you MIGHT NOT do.I have a conundrum w/ him...I have him on my IR and the only spot (have to active him this week) is that he'd be taking Selvin Young's roster spot. Basically, who has the most upside (realistic)...my thinking is that Young has had 1/2 the season, almost, and isn't doing a lot w/ it. Thoughts?
Now there's a curveball. Good stuff SSOG. It'll be interesting to see what happens week 9--it's after the Miami game that I'll have to choose between Pittman and Torain on my squad with its IR restrictions. In that league--with limited rosters--it's actually Selvin Young who's a free agent.Broncs had Vernand Morency in for a tryout.
actually, posts like yours, gushing love for never-has-been players, is getting really, really old... and, perhaps thats why some are guppies, while others are sharks.Really...these kind of takes are getting tired... ALL players go into the league without having "even taken a snap in the preseason, let alone a regular-season game". That's why they call them rookies.Unclear where RB Torain will fit in Broncos' backfield
By Dan Parr
Oct. 16, 2008
There are high, and some might say delusional, expectations for a player who never even has taken a snap in the preseason, let alone a regular-season game.
I've been realistic all along about Torain. Show me where I've "gushed". Never have I compared him to an Earl Campbell.Nice try... sharkactually, posts like yours, gushing love for never-has-been players, is getting really, really old... and, perhaps thats why some are guppies, while others are sharks.Really...these kind of takes are getting tired... ALL players go into the league without having "even taken a snap in the preseason, let alone a regular-season game". That's why they call them rookies.Unclear where RB Torain will fit in Broncos' backfield
By Dan Parr
Oct. 16, 2008
There are high, and some might say delusional, expectations for a player who never even has taken a snap in the preseason, let alone a regular-season game.
you'd fall into the guppie category since you believe the second coming of Earl Campbell is upon us ,week 9,when Torain presumably makes his NFL debut..
i know this is about Torain, but dude.....? LJ and CP are completely different types of backs. Do you even watch football?I'd compare him to a raw version of Larry Johnson or Clinton Portis.Give me a scouting report on this guy. IF he was No. 1, what would you expect? Is he a 3-down back? Is he a power back?
Yes. Do you?i know this is about Torain, but dude.....? LJ and CP are completely different types of backs. Do you even watch football?I'd compare him to a raw version of Larry Johnson or Clinton Portis.Give me a scouting report on this guy. IF he was No. 1, what would you expect? Is he a 3-down back? Is he a power back?
Yes, i do and i would never compare a running back to both Portis and LJ because they probably couldn't be any MORE different types of running backs. Portis is a shifty smaller sized back who can cut back, juke, has amazing burst (or did at one time). While LJ is a bruiser who runs right at you if not through you. He is a big brusing rb - steady and consistent but also needs a good line that can open up nice lanes because if he gets by the first line of defense then he is going to run right over anybody in your secondary. Your comment is like saying, Torrain is like Brandon Javobs or Reggie Bush. Seriously, it's that much of a difference. Please enlighten me how they are the same? Other than that they have both had success in the NFL.edit to add: sorry bout the jack.Yes. Do you?i know this is about Torain, but dude.....? LJ and CP are completely different types of backs. Do you even watch football?I'd compare him to a raw version of Larry Johnson or Clinton Portis.Give me a scouting report on this guy. IF he was No. 1, what would you expect? Is he a 3-down back? Is he a power back?
Shark MoveIm dropping LT for him.....Thanks football guys forum!!!!
I've never even seen him play, but I'd compare him to Darren Sproles, or Brandon Jacobs.i know this is about Torain, but dude.....? LJ and CP are completely different types of backs. Do you even watch football?I'd compare him to a raw version of Larry Johnson or Clinton Portis.Give me a scouting report on this guy. IF he was No. 1, what would you expect? Is he a 3-down back? Is he a power back?
I was thinking more like Dave Meggett, or Earl Campbell.I've never even seen him play, but I'd compare him to Darren Sproles, or Brandon Jacobs.i know this is about Torain, but dude.....? LJ and CP are completely different types of backs. Do you even watch football?I'd compare him to a raw version of Larry Johnson or Clinton Portis.Give me a scouting report on this guy. IF he was No. 1, what would you expect? Is he a 3-down back? Is he a power back?