Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch (2 Viewers)

[Carolina Hustler]

I'm still completely flabbergasted. Zimmerman can be armed, pick a fight, starting losing it, then shoot to kill and get no penalty? Its just....absurdly baffling. Its like Florida is sending out an open invitation to psychopaths.

Sigh. Please link where it is shown that it was Zimmerman that started the fight.

He started the fight by getting out of his truck and following the guy when he was told not to.

Please Link us to proof that he followed after the dispatchers statement..

You're asking for "proof" of something that no one was there to witness?

Why are you claiming that it happened if you don't know?

My link

Trayvon had left the house he and his father were visiting to walk to the local 7-Eleven. On his way back, he caught the attention of George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain, who was in a sport-utility vehicle. Zimmerman called the police because the boy looked “real suspicious,” according to a 911 call released late Friday. The operator told Zimmerman that officers were being dispatched and not to pursue the boy.

Zimmerman apparently pursued him anyway, at some point getting out of his car and confronting the boy. Trayvon had a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea. Zimmerman had a 9 millimeter handgun.

My link

We know, quite obviously, that Trayvon Martin was shot after some kind of altercation with Zimmerman on February 26th. We know that Martin had been walking through the neighborhood on the way back to the home where he and his father were visiting after buying iced tea and Skittles. We know that Zimmermann spotted Martin while driving through the neighborhood in his SUV, that he called 911 to reported what he considered a suspicious person, and that the 911 operator told him that a patrol car was on the way and to not pursue Zimmerman Martin. We know that Zimmerman did in fact pursue Martin, thus leading to a course of events and confrontation that led to the shooting.

Link #1: A writer drawing his own conclusion before the facts of the case were out 2 months ago is not proof..Link #2: also nearly 2 months old and doesn't say Zimmerman followed after the dispatchers statement..

The dispatcher said "you don't need to do that" Zimm said "Okay".. There is not evidence proving Zimmerman continued to follow. Actually, evidence would suggest otherwise. If Zimmerman was following Martin as Martin was flee-ing, 8 minutes went by, why did they never get further than the fist building right across the street from Zimmerman's truck?

 

[Christo]

I'm still completely flabbergasted. Zimmerman can be armed, pick a fight, starting losing it, then shoot to kill and get no penalty? Its just....absurdly baffling. Its like Florida is sending out an open invitation to psychopaths.

Sigh. Please link where it is shown that it was Zimmerman that started the fight.

He started the fight by getting out of his truck and following the guy when he was told not to.

Please Link us to proof that he followed after the dispatchers statement..

You're asking for "proof" of something that no one was there to witness?

Yes, you've made at least two statements of fact about Zimmerman's actions which preclude other reasonable possibilities and he's asking for some sort of proof to back up your statements.

 

[greenroom]

I'm still completely flabbergasted. Zimmerman can be armed, pick a fight, starting losing it, then shoot to kill and get no penalty? Its just....absurdly baffling. Its like Florida is sending out an open invitation to psychopaths.

Sigh. Please link where it is shown that it was Zimmerman that started the fight.

He started the fight by getting out of his truck and following the guy when he was told not to.

Please Link us to proof that he followed after the dispatchers statement..

You're asking for "proof" of something that no one was there to witness?

Why are you claiming that it happened if you don't know?

My link

Trayvon had left the house he and his father were visiting to walk to the local 7-Eleven. On his way back, he caught the attention of George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain, who was in a sport-utility vehicle. Zimmerman called the police because the boy looked “real suspicious,” according to a 911 call released late Friday. The operator told Zimmerman that officers were being dispatched and not to pursue the boy.

Zimmerman apparently pursued him anyway, at some point getting out of his car and confronting the boy. Trayvon had a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea. Zimmerman had a 9 millimeter handgun.

My link

We know, quite obviously, that Trayvon Martin was shot after some kind of altercation with Zimmerman on February 26th. We know that Martin had been walking through the neighborhood on the way back to the home where he and his father were visiting after buying iced tea and Skittles. We know that Zimmermann spotted Martin while driving through the neighborhood in his SUV, that he called 911 to reported what he considered a suspicious person, and that the 911 operator told him that a patrol car was on the way and to not pursue Zimmerman Martin. We know that Zimmerman did in fact pursue Martin, thus leading to a course of events and confrontation that led to the shooting.

Link #1: A writer drawing his own conclusion before the facts of the case were out 2 months ago is not proof..Link #2: also nearly 2 months old and doesn't say Zimmerman followed after the dispatchers statement..

The dispatcher said "you don't need to do that" Zimm said "Okay".. There is not evidence proving Zimmerman continued to follow. Actually, evidence would suggest otherwise. If Zimmerman was following Martin as Martin was flee-ing, 8 minutes went by, why did they never get further than the fist building right across the street from Zimmerman's truck?

Link to prove he did not? Its nice that you can complain that you want "links" to prove something, yet you provide nothing to prove what you are saying.

 

[greenroom]

I'm still completely flabbergasted. Zimmerman can be armed, pick a fight, starting losing it, then shoot to kill and get no penalty? Its just....absurdly baffling. Its like Florida is sending out an open invitation to psychopaths.

Sigh. Please link where it is shown that it was Zimmerman that started the fight.

He started the fight by getting out of his truck and following the guy when he was told not to.

Please Link us to proof that he followed after the dispatchers statement..

You're asking for "proof" of something that no one was there to witness?

Yes, you've made at least two statements of fact about Zimmerman's actions which preclude other reasonable possibilities and he's asking for some sort of proof to back up your statements.

Please use common sense. If he was told to not get out of the vehicle. then how did he shoot Martin? HE GOT OUT OF THE VEHICLE! Bottom line is if Zimmerman was minding his own business and not looking for trouble, then his life would not be in the mess that it is and a child would not be dead for no reason.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

He started the fight by getting out of his truck and following the guy when he was told not to.

Please Link us to proof that he followed after the dispatchers statement..

You're asking for "proof" of something that no one was there to witness?

Why are you claiming that it happened if you don't know?

My link

Trayvon had left the house he and his father were visiting to walk to the local 7-Eleven. On his way back, he caught the attention of George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain, who was in a sport-utility vehicle. Zimmerman called the police because the boy looked “real suspicious,” according to a 911 call released late Friday. The operator told Zimmerman that officers were being dispatched and not to pursue the boy.

Zimmerman apparently pursued him anyway, at some point getting out of his car and confronting the boy. Trayvon had a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea. Zimmerman had a 9 millimeter handgun.

My link

We know, quite obviously, that Trayvon Martin was shot after some kind of altercation with Zimmerman on February 26th. We know that Martin had been walking through the neighborhood on the way back to the home where he and his father were visiting after buying iced tea and Skittles. We know that Zimmermann spotted Martin while driving through the neighborhood in his SUV, that he called 911 to reported what he considered a suspicious person, and that the 911 operator told him that a patrol car was on the way and to not pursue Zimmerman Martin. We know that Zimmerman did in fact pursue Martin, thus leading to a course of events and confrontation that led to the shooting.

Link #1: A writer drawing his own conclusion before the facts of the case were out 2 months ago is not proof..Link #2: also nearly 2 months old and doesn't say Zimmerman followed after the dispatchers statement..

The dispatcher said "you don't need to do that" Zimm said "Okay".. There is not evidence proving Zimmerman continued to follow. Actually, evidence would suggest otherwise. If Zimmerman was following Martin as Martin was flee-ing, 8 minutes went by, why did they never get further than the fist building right across the street from Zimmerman's truck?

Link to prove he did not? Its nice that you can complain that you want "links" to prove something, yet you provide nothing to prove what you are saying.

He claims that it happened, I never claimed it didn't.. You make claims based on opinion, and pass them off as facts, it's up to you to prove, not up to others to disprove. We can make baseless claims all day long if there is no burden of proof..

 

[Witz]

I'm still completely flabbergasted. Zimmerman can be armed, pick a fight, starting losing it, then shoot to kill and get no penalty? Its just....absurdly baffling. Its like Florida is sending out an open invitation to psychopaths.

Sigh. Please link where it is shown that it was Zimmerman that started the fight.

He started the fight by getting out of his truck and following the guy when he was told not to.

Please Link us to proof that he followed after the dispatchers statement..

You're asking for "proof" of something that no one was there to witness?

Yes, you've made at least two statements of fact about Zimmerman's actions which preclude other reasonable possibilities and he's asking for some sort of proof to back up your statements.

Please use common sense. If he was told to not get out of the vehicle. then how did he shoot Martin? HE GOT OUT OF THE VEHICLE! Bottom line is if Zimmerman was minding his own business and not looking for trouble, then his life would not be in the mess that it is and a child would not be dead for no reason.

Now you are just making stuff up - the police dispatcher never told him to NOT get out of the vehicle. Please go back and read the known facts before posting.

At 2:07 minutes into the police call Zimmerman says "he's running.". At 2:37 into the call Zimmerman tells the dispatcher, "he ran." When Zimmerman reported that Martin had started running the dispatcher asked him if he was following and he affirmed that he was. The dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that."[102] Zimmerman said "OK". Zimmerman said he couldn't tell the dispatcher the address of his current location, but tells him the numbers of his street address and then at 3:35 adds "Oh crap, I don't want to give it all out. I don't know where this kid is". Asked if he "wanted to meet with the officer" Zimmerman at first agreed to the dispatcher's suggestion that he meet the police by the mailboxes,[Note 3, 4th picture] then asked, "Actually, could you have him call me, and I'll tell him where I'm at?", to which the dispatcher replied, "no problem".[103] Zimmerman appears to hang up at the 4:05 mark. The recording ends at 4:11.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I'm still completely flabbergasted. Zimmerman can be armed, pick a fight, starting losing it, then shoot to kill and get no penalty? Its just....absurdly baffling. Its like Florida is sending out an open invitation to psychopaths.

Sigh. Please link where it is shown that it was Zimmerman that started the fight.

He started the fight by getting out of his truck and following the guy when he was told not to.

Please Link us to proof that he followed after the dispatchers statement..

You're asking for "proof" of something that no one was there to witness?

Yes, you've made at least two statements of fact about Zimmerman's actions which preclude other reasonable possibilities and he's asking for some sort of proof to back up your statements.

Please use common sense. If he was told to not get out of the vehicle. then how did he shoot Martin? HE GOT OUT OF THE VEHICLE! Bottom line is if Zimmerman was minding his own business and not looking for trouble, then his life would not be in the mess that it is and a child would not be dead for no reason.

link to someone telling him not to get out of his vehicle..greenroom: "neighborhood watch people should just mind their own buisness"... Got it.."Child dead for no reason" Definition of 'No Reason': Broken Nose, lacerations on head, back injury, panic brought on by some 6+ foot tall person you don't know, on top of you beating the #### out of you in the middle of the night..

 

[jon_mx]

I believe Zimmerman claimed when he got out of the car, he was looking for a street address, not that he was chasing anyone. You can believe his story or not, but until there is something to prove otherwise that is the only version out there with any real evidence behind it.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Please use common sense. If he was told to not get out of the vehicle. then how did he shoot Martin? HE GOT OUT OF THE VEHICLE! Bottom line is if Zimmerman was minding his own business and not looking for trouble, then his life would not be in the mess that it is and a child would not be dead for no reason.

Now you are just making stuff up - the police dispatcher never told him to NOT get out of the vehicle. Please go back and read the known facts before posting.

At 2:07 minutes into the police call Zimmerman says "he's running.". At 2:37 into the call Zimmerman tells the dispatcher, "he ran." When Zimmerman reported that Martin had started running the dispatcher asked him if he was following and he affirmed that he was. The dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that."[102] Zimmerman said "OK". Zimmerman said he couldn't tell the dispatcher the address of his current location, but tells him the numbers of his street address and then at 3:35 adds "Oh crap, I don't want to give it all out. I don't know where this kid is". Asked if he "wanted to meet with the officer" Zimmerman at first agreed to the dispatcher's suggestion that he meet the police by the mailboxes,[Note 3, 4th picture] then asked, "Actually, could you have him call me, and I'll tell him where I'm at?", to which the dispatcher replied, "no problem".[103] Zimmerman appears to hang up at the 4:05 mark. The recording ends at 4:11.

Was he trying to sneak one in? Or is he just uninformed and jumping to conclusions?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I believe Zimmerman claimed when he got out of the car, he was looking for a street address, not that he was chasing anyone. You can believe his story or not, but until there is something to prove otherwise that is the only version out there with any real evidence behind it.

the dispatcher asked him if he was following trayvon, and he said yes

 

[mad sweeney]

Again - don't let what's known or not known get in the way of you making your point. You have ZERO way of knowing whether Zimmerman was still looking for Martin after the police dispatcher told him he didn't need to follow him. Zero.

Yes we know that is a fact, because he got out of his car. He even admits that he was following him. It is not to be disputed. If Zimmerman had listened to the police dispatcher we are not having this discussion and that 17 year old kid is not dead.

No one is disputing that Zimmerman got out of his car and started to follow Martin. The issue is whether Zimmerman continued to follow Martin after the dispatcher told him not to. We don't know for a fact that Zimmerman continued to follow Martin after that.

The 911 operator didn't say not to.

Way to ignore the point

You're right, I was Christo-ing.

You're not very good at it. You should probably just stick with making up facts.

On the contrary. It's as helpful and pertinent as 99% if your posts.

 

[Christo]

Please use common sense.

Please quit making stuff up.

 

[Christo]

Again - don't let what's known or not known get in the way of you making your point. You have ZERO way of knowing whether Zimmerman was still looking for Martin after the police dispatcher told him he didn't need to follow him. Zero.

Yes we know that is a fact, because he got out of his car. He even admits that he was following him. It is not to be disputed. If Zimmerman had listened to the police dispatcher we are not having this discussion and that 17 year old kid is not dead.

No one is disputing that Zimmerman got out of his car and started to follow Martin. The issue is whether Zimmerman continued to follow Martin after the dispatcher told him not to. We don't know for a fact that Zimmerman continued to follow Martin after that.

The 911 operator didn't say not to.

Way to ignore the point

You're right, I was Christo-ing.

You're not very good at it. You should probably just stick with making up facts.

On the contrary. It's as helpful and pertinent as 99% if your posts.

Glad you followed my advice

 

[parasaurolophus]

We don't know exactly what was said, but if Zimmerman didn't physically or verbally threaten Trayvon, Trayvon should not have attacked him..

And here is a real problem for Zimmerman's defense. Yes, as I've written, based on what we know, he should be acquitted. But I still think this is a problem. Why did Trayvon attack him?

Sorry, but it is illogical for me to believe that all Zimmerman did was ask Martin what he was doing there, and Martin responding by knocking Zimmerman to the ground and slamming him with punches. That just doesn't fly. It doesn't ring true to me, and it won't ring true to a jury. Zimmerman MUST have said something or done something that Martin found threatening. Maybe he didn't mean to. Maybe it was misinterpreted. Or maybe Zimmerman deliberately said or did something threatening, knowing exactly what he was doing. Either way, Zimmerman is covering up something when he claims that he was attacked from behind for no reason whatsoever. Are you willing to admit this?

Is it possible Martin is just a punk kid who saw a smaller guy following him and decided to give him a butt whoopin'?

Anything's possible. Likely? Not really.

Happens all the time..

Punches him? Maybe. Slams him to the ground and keeps punching him in such a manner that Zimmerman decides his life is being threatened? I have a hard time buying this, I really do.

What if it is true that Trayvon refereed fights? I am sure some people would argue that this makes him a more disciplined person when it comes to getting into fights, but I think it makes him more prone because he obviously would be regularly involved with a fighting culture.

 

[timschochet]

What a lot of people here don't realize, because most of his posts are tl'dr is that Timmy blows with the wind. He's changed his mind about 1500 times in this thread alone. And every time he does it, he pretends like it's a big deal and people that haven't been paying attention comment on it. Which feeds him to do it more. When he isn't busy doing drafts.

It's not shtick. This is a tough case. There's a lot we don't know, and new evidence comes in all the time. I don't see how anyone's mind could be made up at this point. Based on what we know RIGHT NOW, Zimmerman should be acquitted; the case shouldn't even go to trial. But though I believe Zimmerman should be acquitted, there are other factors involved which makes me question Zimmerman's actual innocence in this affair- I still believe it's highly possible, or even likely, that he committed murder or manslaughter- there just isn't, from what we know, enough evidence to prove it. But that could change. Maybe there are witnesses we're unaware of. Maybe there is evidence we're unaware of. If these show up, I will change my mind again. So yes, I want to hear what this 5th witness actually saw.

 

[Boom Switch]

I'm still completely flabbergasted. Zimmerman can be armed, pick a fight, starting losing it, then shoot to kill and get no penalty? Its just....absurdly baffling. Its like Florida is sending out an open invitation to psychopaths.

Sigh. Please link where it is shown that it was Zimmerman that started the fight.

He started the fight by getting out of his truck and following the guy when he was told not to.

Please Link us to proof that he followed after the dispatchers statement..

You're asking for "proof" of something that no one was there to witness?

Yes, you've made at least two statements of fact about Zimmerman's actions which preclude other reasonable possibilities and he's asking for some sort of proof to back up your statements.

Please use common sense. If he was told to not get out of the vehicle. then how did he shoot Martin? HE GOT OUT OF THE VEHICLE! Bottom line is if Zimmerman was minding his own business and not looking for trouble, then his life would not be in the mess that it is and a child would not be dead for no reason.

link to someone telling him not to get out of his vehicle..greenroom: "neighborhood watch people should just mind their own buisness"... Got it.."Child dead for no reason" Definition of 'No Reason': Broken Nose, lacerations on head, back injury, panic brought on by some 6+ foot tall person you don't know, on top of you beating the #### out of you in the middle of the night..

 

[Charlie Frown]

"I do honestly feel that he intended for this kid to die," witness 5 told investigators. "If you're in self defense, shoot him in the leg. He's a 17-year-old, scrawny little kid. You get into a physical fight with him. ... I think the kid was running for help."

Shoot him in the leg? Bwahahahaha.

 

[Charlie Frown]

"I do honestly feel that he intended for this kid to die," witness 5 told investigators. "If you're in self defense, shoot him in the leg. He's a 17-year-old, scrawny little kid. You get into a physical fight with him. ... I think the kid was running for help."

Now which witness is this? And what exactly did he see? It seems like every time I get a grasp and make a judgment about this case, some new information comes along and changes my mind. I'd like to know what this witness saw.And I'd also like to know, once and for all, how Zimmerman and Martin measured up to each other in terms of height and weight. Is there any DEFINITIVE information about this?

Ht/Wt has no bearing on this case IMHO. Zimmerman was getting his ### beat and seems to have fearing for his life. If he intended to kill Martin outright why didn't he just shoot him before it got physical and risk getting himself killed?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

"I do honestly feel that he intended for this kid to die," witness 5 told investigators. "If you're in self defense, shoot him in the leg. He's a 17-year-old, scrawny little kid. You get into a physical fight with him. ... I think the kid was running for help."

Shoot him in the leg? Bwahahahaha.

Doesn't sound very smart does it? I have a game, you ball your hand into a fist and put it in front of your face, I'm going to try to pull your fist away from your face, you try to stop me, ready?

 

[timschochet]

"I do honestly feel that he intended for this kid to die," witness 5 told investigators. "If you're in self defense, shoot him in the leg. He's a 17-year-old, scrawny little kid. You get into a physical fight with him. ... I think the kid was running for help."

Now which witness is this? And what exactly did he see? It seems like every time I get a grasp and make a judgment about this case, some new information comes along and changes my mind. I'd like to know what this witness saw.And I'd also like to know, once and for all, how Zimmerman and Martin measured up to each other in terms of height and weight. Is there any DEFINITIVE information about this?

Ht/Wt has no bearing on this case IMHO. Zimmerman was getting his ### beat and seems to have fearing for his life. If he intended to kill Martin outright why didn't he just shoot him before it got physical and risk getting himself killed?

.I do think height weight can have a bearing IF there is a disparity. In any case, I would like to know the truth of the matter. There's been so much speculation about it both ways that I would like to know.

 

[identikit]

"I do honestly feel that he intended for this kid to die," witness 5 told investigators. "If you're in self defense, shoot him in the leg. He's a 17-year-old, scrawny little kid. You get into a physical fight with him. ... I think the kid was running for help."

Now which witness is this? And what exactly did he see? It seems like every time I get a grasp and make a judgment about this case, some new information comes along and changes my mind. I'd like to know what this witness saw.And I'd also like to know, once and for all, how Zimmerman and Martin measured up to each other in terms of height and weight. Is there any DEFINITIVE information about this?

Ht/Wt has no bearing on this case IMHO. Zimmerman was getting his ### beat and seems to have fearing for his life. If he intended to kill Martin outright why didn't he just shoot him before it got physical and risk getting himself killed?

.I do think height weight can have a bearing IF there is a disparity. In any case, I would like to know the truth of the matter. There's been so much speculation about it both ways that I would like to know.

It truly doesn't matter based on the facts we know.But keep creating moot points.

 

[Boom Switch]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

 

[TexanFan02]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

It's not shtick. This is a tough case. There's a lot we don't know, and new evidence comes in all the time. I don't see how anyone's mind could be made up at this point.

Most of the active posters in this thread had their minds made up back on page 1.

 

[timschochet]

It's not shtick. This is a tough case. There's a lot we don't know, and new evidence comes in all the time. I don't see how anyone's mind could be made up at this point.

Most of the active posters in this thread had their minds made up back on page 1.

That's up to them. I respect MOST of them and would like to think that, if presented with new information or evidence, they will change their minds. There are a few exceptions, however...

 

[jon_mx]

It's not shtick. This is a tough case. There's a lot we don't know, and new evidence comes in all the time. I don't see how anyone's mind could be made up at this point.

Most of the active pro-Martin posters in this thread had their minds made up back on page 1.

Fixed. I for one would have zero problem if there were eye-witness accounts that Martin was pulling away prior to the gun shot of convicting Zimmerman. But there has yet to be any evidence to suggest that this was not self-defense. So yes, I made up my mind that he is innocent until proven otherwise. How biased is that?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Boy am i happy i enjoyed this beautiful sunny saturday outside , not inside on my computer arguing .

 

[Witz]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

 

[TexanFan02]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

So I can put you down on the list of people hoping for riots and looting too? Stay classy.

 

[Mark Davis]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

So I can put you down on the list of people hoping for riots and looting too? Stay classy.

I'm not hoping it happens, but it's certainly a possibility. It will be made all the worse by some in the media portraying things that are not known as facts. That's how this whole circus got started in the first place.

 

[identikit]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

So I can put you down on the list of people hoping for riots and looting too? Stay classy.

I'm not hoping it happens, but it's certainly a possibility. It will be made all the worse by some in the media portraying things that are not known as facts. That's how this whole circus got started in the first place.

 

[TexanFan02]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

So I can put you down on the list of people hoping for riots and looting too? Stay classy.

I'm not hoping it happens, but it's certainly a possibility. It will be made all the worse by some in the media portraying things that are not known as facts. That's how this whole circus got started in the first place.

Everyone knows it's a possibility. Openly hoping for it is a bit morbid, I think. Bannable, even.

 

[Witz]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

So I can put you down on the list of people hoping for riots and looting too? Stay classy.

Not at all - just laughing about your 'stay classy' comment which you have been anything but in this thread.

 

[Witz]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

So I can put you down on the list of people hoping for riots and looting too? Stay classy.

I'm not hoping it happens, but it's certainly a possibility. It will be made all the worse by some in the media portraying things that are not known as facts. That's how this whole circus got started in the first place.

Everyone knows it's a possibility. Openly hoping for it is a bit morbid, I think. Bannable, even.

End of conversation.

When asked (by the 911 dispatch operator) if George Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin (who was unidentified at this time), Zimmerman resolutely answered, "Yes."

The dispatcher replied, "Okay, we don't need you to do that."

IMO, Zimmerman committed murder when he didn't follow the 911 operator's instructions. Instead, the ####wad played judge, jury and executioner and should suffer the same fate.

Bust a cap in his ####### forehead.

I agree with Slayer. Hell has frozen over.

Agreeing with the comment that Zimmerman should be shot is also a bit morbid. Bannable, even. Stay classy.

 

[TexanFan02]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

So I can put you down on the list of people hoping for riots and looting too? Stay classy.

I'm not hoping it happens, but it's certainly a possibility. It will be made all the worse by some in the media portraying things that are not known as facts. That's how this whole circus got started in the first place.

Everyone knows it's a possibility. Openly hoping for it is a bit morbid, I think. Bannable, even.

End of conversation.

When asked (by the 911 dispatch operator) if George Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin (who was unidentified at this time), Zimmerman resolutely answered, "Yes."

The dispatcher replied, "Okay, we don't need you to do that."

IMO, Zimmerman committed murder when he didn't follow the 911 operator's instructions. Instead, the ####wad played judge, jury and executioner and should suffer the same fate.

Bust a cap in his ####### forehead.

I agree with Slayer. Hell has frozen over.

Agreeing with the comment that Zimmerman should be shot is also a bit morbid. Bannable, even. Stay classy.

Murder is punishable by death in some states. Florida is one of them. You're about to go into the Carolina Hustler category for contributing absolutely nothing to the thread.

 

[pittstownkiller]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

So I can put you down on the list of people hoping for riots and looting too? Stay classy.

I'm not hoping it happens, but it's certainly a possibility. It will be made all the worse by some in the media portraying things that are not known as facts. That's how this whole circus got started in the first place.

Everyone knows it's a possibility. Openly hoping for it is a bit morbid, I think. Bannable, even.

End of conversation.

When asked (by the 911 dispatch operator) if George Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin (who was unidentified at this time), Zimmerman resolutely answered, "Yes."

The dispatcher replied, "Okay, we don't need you to do that."

IMO, Zimmerman committed murder when he didn't follow the 911 operator's instructions. Instead, the ####wad played judge, jury and executioner and should suffer the same fate.

Bust a cap in his ####### forehead.

I agree with Slayer. Hell has frozen over.

Agreeing with the comment that Zimmerman should be shot is also a bit morbid. Bannable, even. Stay classy.

Murder is punishable by death in some states. Florida is one of them. You're about to go into the Carolina Hustler category for contributing absolutely nothing to the thread.

You're right about the death penalty here but of course, they have a trial first. What is so troubling about you, is you seem to have already convicted Zimmerman and want to get onto the sentencing phase (or should I say the punishment phase?).

 

[TexanFan02]

You're right about the death penalty here but of course, they have a trial first. What is so troubling about you, is you seem to have already convicted Zimmerman and want to get onto the sentencing phase (or should I say the punishment phase?).

We're all entitled to our opinions. None of them matter until the trial happens.

 

[jon_mx]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

So I can put you down on the list of people hoping for riots and looting too? Stay classy.

I'm not hoping it happens, but it's certainly a possibility. It will be made all the worse by some in the media portraying things that are not known as facts. That's how this whole circus got started in the first place.

Everyone knows it's a possibility. Openly hoping for it is a bit morbid, I think. Bannable, even.

End of conversation.

When asked (by the 911 dispatch operator) if George Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin (who was unidentified at this time), Zimmerman resolutely answered, "Yes."

The dispatcher replied, "Okay, we don't need you to do that."

IMO, Zimmerman committed murder when he didn't follow the 911 operator's instructions. Instead, the ####wad played judge, jury and executioner and should suffer the same fate.

Bust a cap in his ####### forehead.

I agree with Slayer. Hell has frozen over.

Agreeing with the comment that Zimmerman should be shot is also a bit morbid. Bannable, even. Stay classy.

Murder is punishable by death in some states. Florida is one of them. You're about to go into the Carolina Hustler category for contributing absolutely nothing to the thread.

Oh the irony.

 

[Christo]

You're right about the death penalty here but of course, they have a trial first. What is so troubling about you, is you seem to have already convicted Zimmerman and want to get onto the sentencing phase (or should I say the punishment phase?).

We're all entitled to our opinions. None of them matter until the trial happens.

I'd love to hear how our opinions go from not mattering to mattering when the trial happens.

 

[TylerRoseFan]

This thread has probably had more people delete their own posts than any other in the history of this forum.Some very agitated people from early on in the thread should be particularly embarrassed at their lynch mob mentality towards Zimmerman.Unless there's a black person on the jury, the Zimmerman "not guilty" deliberations will take about 2.6 minutes. If there's a black person on the jury it will take about 5.7 minutes.Does Al Sharpton care that he's a laughingstock?

With the stand your ground defense, there is no reason for the judge to even let this go to trial. If the defense can convince the judge by preponderance of evidence that it was self-defense, the case is over without a jury trial.

Why is it that the race pimps like Sharpton and Jackson are quiet on this? I wonder what their thoughts are now that things tend to be leaning against their hate ridden race rants.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Murder is punishable by death in some states. Florida is one of them. You're about to go into the Carolina Hustler category for contributing absolutely nothing to the thread.

Oh the irony.

 

[Boom Switch]

Im hoping this Zimmerman fella gets aquitted for the mere enjoyment i would get from watching the white guilt liberals crying in their seltzer water. Plus, im always up for a good looting/riots on TV.

Stay classy.

So I can put you down on the list of people hoping for riots and looting too? Stay classy.

I'm not hoping it happens, but it's certainly a possibility. It will be made all the worse by some in the media portraying things that are not known as facts. That's how this whole circus got started in the first place.

EXACTLY!! The media is a joke right now! When this first happened all i saw were pics of this little boy Trayvon and this mean ol unshaven Zimmerman fella. Come to find out Trayvon is really a 6 foot plus lyrical gangsta. Wonder if Obama feels like a dope commenting on this before the facts came out. LMAO at the mud in his face now Now you have a huge part of inner cities who are waiting for the outcome not because they actually care about it, they are just looking for a reason and excuse to loot and riot since they think they are allowed. I mean seriously, who is gonna say anything about it? if you do, well you are a racist

 

[Carolina Hustler]

You're right about the death penalty here but of course, they have a trial first. What is so troubling about you, is you seem to have already convicted Zimmerman and want to get onto the sentencing phase (or should I say the punishment phase?).

We're all entitled to our opinions. None of them matter until the trial happens.

I'd love to hear how our opinions go from not mattering to mattering when the trial happens.

 

[Witz]

End of conversation.

When asked (by the 911 dispatch operator) if George Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin (who was unidentified at this time), Zimmerman resolutely answered, "Yes."

The dispatcher replied, "Okay, we don't need you to do that."

IMO, Zimmerman committed murder when he didn't follow the 911 operator's instructions. Instead, the ####wad played judge, jury and executioner and should suffer the same fate.

Bust a cap in his ####### forehead.

I agree with Slayer. Hell has frozen over.

Agreeing with the comment that Zimmerman should be shot is also a bit morbid. Bannable, even. Stay classy.

Murder is punishable by death in some states. Florida is one of them. You're about to go into the Carolina Hustler category for contributing absolutely nothing to the thread.

Wait, what?You said that someone should shoot Zimmerman. That's what you said.

The trial hasn't started.

The verdict hasn't been read.

Zimmerman hasn't been convicted.

Zimmerman hasn't been sentenced.

And unless something has happened where the venue of this trial will take place in Utah or Oklahoma, death by a firing squad (or a bullet to the forehead) isn't an option.

Therefore, the fact that 'Murder is punishable by death in some states with Florida being one of them' has no relevance to the comment you made.

Bravo - you've made your contribution to this thread by making a threat against someone. You probably should have quit when you were ahead with your 'Toast' posts. Now those were contributions!.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

End of conversation.

When asked (by the 911 dispatch operator) if George Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin (who was unidentified at this time), Zimmerman resolutely answered, "Yes."

The dispatcher replied, "Okay, we don't need you to do that."

IMO, Zimmerman committed murder when he didn't follow the 911 operator's instructions. Instead, the ####wad played judge, jury and executioner and should suffer the same fate.

Bust a cap in his ####### forehead.

I agree with Slayer. Hell has frozen over.

Agreeing with the comment that Zimmerman should be shot is also a bit morbid. Bannable, even. Stay classy.

Murder is punishable by death in some states. Florida is one of them. You're about to go into the Carolina Hustler category for contributing absolutely nothing to the thread.

Wait, what?You said that someone should shoot Zimmerman. That's what you said.

The trial hasn't started.

The verdict hasn't been read.

Zimmerman hasn't been convicted.

Zimmerman hasn't been sentenced.

And unless something has happened where the venue of this trial will take place in Utah or Oklahoma, death by a firing squad (or a bullet to the forehead) isn't an option.

Therefore, the fact that 'Murder is punishable by death in some states with Florida being one of them' has no relevance to the comment you made.

Bravo - you've made your contribution to this thread by making a threat against someone. You probably should have quit when you were ahead with your 'Toast' posts. Now those were contributions!.

The "Toast" fella is a different guy.. Although Tex may have jumped on that wagon a time or 2.. Unless they are the same person..

 

[timschochet]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47476961?ocid=ansmsnbc11

An anonymous police tipster, meanwhile, suggested that Zimmerman could be confrontational, especially against black people.

"I don't at all know who this kid was or anything else,” the unnamed caller called told police shortly after the shooting. “But I know George, and I know that he does not like black people. He would start something. He's very confrontational. It's in his blood. We'll just say that.”

No, this is not evidence of any sort. It doesn't, in my mind, convict Zimmerman of anything and I still believe that, based on what we know, Zimmerman should be acquitted. But if it's true it gives me a better feel about what happened here. I think that if Martin attacked Zimmerman it was because Zimmerman said or did something to cause it to happen. I think Zimmerman at the very least is probably guilty of manslaughter. I think he's a bad guy who should be put away and it would be a shame to see him walk away from this. But unfortunately there appears to be no way to prove it.

 

[renesauz]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47476961?ocid=ansmsnbc11

An anonymous police tipster, meanwhile, suggested that Zimmerman could be confrontational, especially against black people.

"I don't at all know who this kid was or anything else,” the unnamed caller called told police shortly after the shooting. “But I know George, and I know that he does not like black people. He would start something. He's very confrontational. It's in his blood. We'll just say that.”

No, this is not evidence of any sort. It doesn't, in my mind, convict Zimmerman of anything and I still believe that, based on what we know, Zimmerman should be acquitted. But if it's true it gives me a better feel about what happened here. I think that if Martin attacked Zimmerman it was because Zimmerman said or did something to cause it to happen. I think Zimmerman at the very least is probably guilty of manslaughter. I think he's a bad guy who should be put away and it would be a shame to see him walk away from this. But unfortunately there appears to be no way to prove it.

You're really going to put more stock in an anonymous caller than in his black neighbors who've PUBLICLY said the opposite?

 

[Witz]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47476961?ocid=ansmsnbc11

An anonymous police tipster, meanwhile, suggested that Zimmerman could be confrontational, especially against black people.

"I don't at all know who this kid was or anything else,” the unnamed caller called told police shortly after the shooting. “But I know George, and I know that he does not like black people. He would start something. He's very confrontational. It's in his blood. We'll just say that.”

No, this is not evidence of any sort. It doesn't, in my mind, convict Zimmerman of anything and I still believe that, based on what we know, Zimmerman should be acquitted. But if it's true it gives me a better feel about what happened here. I think that if Martin attacked Zimmerman it was because Zimmerman said or did something to cause it to happen. I think Zimmerman at the very least is probably guilty of manslaughter. I think he's a bad guy who should be put away and it would be a shame to see him walk away from this. But unfortunately there appears to be no way to prove it.

Anonymous tipster.

Who's the "we'll" they mention? Was the anonymous caller making the call for a group of individuals?

 

[timschochet]

http://www.msnbc.msn...ocid=ansmsnbc11

An anonymous police tipster, meanwhile, suggested that Zimmerman could be confrontational, especially against black people.

"I don't at all know who this kid was or anything else," the unnamed caller called told police shortly after the shooting. "But I know George, and I know that he does not like black people. He would start something. He's very confrontational. It's in his blood. We'll just say that."

No, this is not evidence of any sort. It doesn't, in my mind, convict Zimmerman of anything and I still believe that, based on what we know, Zimmerman should be acquitted. But if it's true it gives me a better feel about what happened here. I think that if Martin attacked Zimmerman it was because Zimmerman said or did something to cause it to happen. I think Zimmerman at the very least is probably guilty of manslaughter. I think he's a bad guy who should be put away and it would be a shame to see him walk away from this. But unfortunately there appears to be no way to prove it.

You're really going to put more stock in an anonymous caller than in his black neighbors who've PUBLICLY said the opposite?

Yeah. Based on his comment "These ####ers always get away", based on his history of phone calls to the police, I am. But again, it's only a subjective feeling on my part. It doesn't prove anything, and it certainly isn't close to evidence that can be used in court. But that's what I think.