Game of Thrones on HBO: non-book thread (2 Viewers)

[parrot]

I'm glad to see the Hound stick around. I thought he was a goner. As bad as as he is, he has some good in him and I hope we get to see more of it.I'm not liking the insinuations made toward Jorah Mormont by the old dude whose name I cant remember. I've really liked this character and fear he will be usurped by the old dude and lose Dany's trust.Jaime was amazing tonight. The bath scene was as good as it gets.

Remember, he was spying on her. I am not sure if he had direct knowledge of the assasination attempt and had a change of heart at the last moment or just was suspicious but either way- his history has reason for her not to trust him. That was what that whole scene was about because until now there was no one in contact with Dany that had knowledge of Jorah's less than pure history concerning her. (other than that masked witch chick)

Can you put some proper nouns in place of the pro nouns? I am lost and must have missed the less than pure history part. Sir Barriston Selmy was spying on Dany, I got that part....after that, you lost me.

Spoiler

Mormont was spying on Dany - Mormont was working to become un-exiled and allowed back into Westeros

That was discussed on the show, right? Mormont was exiled for slave trading....but Robert or Varys mentioned him spying for them wanted to be un-exiled....then he fell in love with Dany. Selmy isn't really "insinuating" anything about Jorah Mormont, he's just stating a fact about his reputation being tarnished in Westeros. He got in trouble for selling some poachers into slavery, then ran rather than face his punishment, which would have been beheading at Ned Stark's hand. People didn't think really highly of that.

 

[EYLive]

Speaking of slavery. Where does Dany get her abolitionist views from?

In Essos, pretty much anything goes. Was it just her distaste for the the Dothraki savagery and practices that made her feel guilty about that institution?

 

[The Captain]

I'm glad to see the Hound stick around. I thought he was a goner. As bad as as he is, he has some good in him and I hope we get to see more of it.I'm not liking the insinuations made toward Jorah Mormont by the old dude whose name I cant remember. I've really liked this character and fear he will be usurped by the old dude and lose Dany's trust.Jaime was amazing tonight. The bath scene was as good as it gets.

Remember, he was spying on her. I am not sure if he had direct knowledge of the assasination attempt and had a change of heart at the last moment or just was suspicious but either way- his history has reason for her not to trust him. That was what that whole scene was about because until now there was no one in contact with Dany that had knowledge of Jorah's less than pure history concerning her. (other than that masked witch chick)

True. He does have a rather unseemly past, but it appears he's come around and seems loyal to her...or maybe it's just because he's in love with her.I dig the character though and would love to see him in combat. My guess is that he can kick some serious ###. Hoping he doesn't turn out to be a giant tool.

Remember, Jorah handled that Dothraki guy pretty handily when Dany was going into labor. So, he's got game.

Forgot about that. Great scene

 

[sn0mm1s]

Speaking of slavery. Where does Dany get her abolitionist views from?

In Essos, pretty much anything goes. Was it just her distaste for the the Dothraki savagery and practices that made her feel guilty about that institution?

No, partly it is because she wishes to rule Westeros which doesn't allow slaves and partly because she feels that she had been sold by her brother and Illyrio to Drogo.

 

[Drifter]

The Jamie / Brienne conversation was the best of the show last night IMO, but I missed a piece of it. I couldn't really hear what was said right before she got pissed and sprang out of the water. What was that about? I know he ended with a background on the killing of the Mad King (which was great), but what happened right before that?

I'm enjoying the show but it just doesn't touch the books as far as surprises and build up go. This scene though is one if my faves from the book and they nailed it. Also the closing scene with the lanisters was awesome. You have that brief feeling if sympathy for Cersei after despising her for wearing that smirk.

ZOMG DON'T TALK ABOUT THE BOOK VERSION OF EVENTS!!!!!!

This shtick wasn't funny the first ten times, and I don't think the large font is gonna help.

Not trying to be funny. Shadyridr was cursing people out but I don't want to do that so I'm using large font instead. You guys wanted a pure, show only thread so I'm just trying to help out.

I'm not sure why you get so wrapped up in this particular topic. I can see you lying in bed muttering about having to use spoiler tags. Relax, it's not affecting your quality of life in any way.

 

[EYLive]

Speaking of slavery. Where does Dany get her abolitionist views from?

In Essos, pretty much anything goes. Was it just her distaste for the the Dothraki savagery and practices that made her feel guilty about that institution?

No, partly it is because she wishes to rule Westeros which doesn't allow slaves and partly because she feels that she had been sold by her brother and Illyrio to Drogo.

At this point, her Unsullied soldiers are pretty much sellswords and not slaves so that won't conflict with Westerosi ideals. She must have been educated about political mariages as well, so she probably understands her role with Drogo. It just seems that her stubborn intolerance of slavery comes from a pretty deep place.

 

[gump]

I asked this in the other thread...but makes more sense here.

I watch this show with Close-captioning....anyone else?

 

[Redwes25]

I asked this in the other thread...but makes more sense here.I watch this show with Close-captioning....anyone else?

Why?

 

[jamny]

I asked this in the other thread...but makes more sense here.I watch this show with Close-captioning....anyone else?

I just re-watched it with subtitles and there are definitely a few things I missed the first time. I might give it a shot going ahead. I remember doing the same with the UK version of The Office and it helped pick up some missed jokes.

 

[jamny]

Who was Tyrion's first wife?

 

[Brady Marino]

jamny, on 03 May 2013 - 09:26, said:Who was Tyrion's first wife?

Some whore he fell in love with. I think Tywin made her "disappear".Edit: Tywin actually had her gang-raped while Tyrion watched before sending her on her way.

 

[Doubtingthomas]

Who was Tyrion's first wife?

Not sure if this has been covered in the show or not? Probably first season if it was.

 

[Brady Marino]

Who was Tyrion's first wife?

Not sure if this has been covered in the show or not? Probably first season if it was.

It was when he told Bronn and Shae while playing a game in Tyrion's tent.

 

[Doubtingthomas]

Speaking of slavery. Where does Dany get her abolitionist views from?In Essos, pretty much anything goes. Was it just her distaste for the the Dothraki savagery and practices that made her feel guilty about that institution?

Being a slave is something she can relate to, and it is much more fitting for a queen to rule with the love and respect of her people instead of fear and complusion.

 

[Doubtingthomas]

Who was Tyrion's first wife?

Not sure if this has been covered in the show or not? Probably first season if it was.

It was when he told Bronn and Shae while playing a game in Tyrion's tent.

That sounds right, seems like itvhas been in the show but didn't want to spoil it if not.

 

[jamny]

jamny, on 03 May 2013 - 09:26, said:Who was Tyrion's first wife?

Some whore he fell in love with. I think Tywin made her "disappear".Edit: Tywin actually had her gang-raped while Tyrion watched before sending her on her way.

yeah, I saw that on the EW.com recap but didn't remember seeing it. I guess it was talked about.

 

[gump]

I asked this in the other thread...but makes more sense here.I watch this show with Close-captioning....anyone else?

Why?

I didn't read...so want to catch all details, and I have trouble with the names, places, etc...plus the accents.

 

[Redwes25]

I asked this in the other thread...but makes more sense here.I watch this show with Close-captioning....anyone else?

Why?

I didn't read...so want to catch all details, and I have trouble with the names, places, etc...plus the accents.

ok, that makes sense.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I asked this in the other thread...but makes more sense here.I watch this show with Close-captioning....anyone else?

I do this with a lot of shows. I've got some issues with my hearing (nothing major) and I don't like to crank the volume out too loud.

Plus most of the characters don't speak American.

 

[The Ref]

I cant imagine the Imp not having some sort of witty remark sitting at the table after his dad told his daughter about having to marry as well and try and get them both to talk Tywin out of both plans.

 

[Slider6]

I asked this in the other thread...but makes more sense here.

I watch this show with Close-captioning....anyone else?

I do this with a lot of shows. I've got some issues with my hearing (nothing major) and I don't like to crank the volume out too loud.

Plus most of the characters don't speak American.

I watched The Wire with CC and it made the series so much better!

Especially the greatest scene in history! <-- NSFW language here

 

[EYLive]

I cant imagine the Imp not having some sort of witty remark sitting at the table after his dad told his daughter about having to marry as well and try and get them both to talk Tywin out of both plans.

Who would you rather be?

Cercei - Aging queen regent and you have to marry a handsome gay guy and have access to king's landing and Highgarden.

Tyrion - Deformed dwarf, Master of coin, and you have to marry a hot teen Stark that hates you and possibly inherit a burned down Winterfell.

 

[Sabertooth]

Cercei - when anyone told me to go #### myself, I would gladly do it.

 

[jamny]

So is Littlefinger's goal to marry Sansa or is it in some way related to his love for her mother?

 

[Christo]

I asked this in the other thread...but makes more sense here.

I watch this show with Close-captioning....anyone else?

I do this with a lot of shows. I've got some issues with my hearing (nothing major) and I don't like to crank the volume out too loud.

Plus most of the characters don't speak American.

I watched The Wire with CC and it made the series so much better!

Especially the greatest scene in history! <-- NSFW language here

I don't see how those particular subtitles helped you.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

So is Littlefinger's goal to marry Sansa or is it in some way related to his love for her mother?

Do you want supposition or answers from people who have read the book?

 

[culdeus]

I cant imagine the Imp not having some sort of witty remark sitting at the table after his dad told his daughter about having to marry as well and try and get them both to talk Tywin out of both plans.

Who would you rather be?

Cercei - Aging queen regent and you have to marry a handsome gay guy and have access to king's landing and Highgarden.

Tyrion - Deformed dwarf, Master of coin, and you have to marry a hot teen Stark that hates you and possibly inherit a burned down Winterfell.

Option A for sure.

 

[gump]

I asked this in the other thread...but makes more sense here.

I watch this show with Close-captioning....anyone else?

I do this with a lot of shows. I've got some issues with my hearing (nothing major) and I don't like to crank the volume out too loud.

Plus most of the characters don't speak American.

I watched The Wire with CC and it made the series so much better!

Especially the greatest scene in history! <-- NSFW language here

I'm about to flip to CC on The Wire....beginning Season 4. I can't understand a word Bubs says especially.

 

[jamny]

So is Littlefinger's goal to marry Sansa or is it in some way related to his love for her mother?

Do you want supposition or answers from people who have read the book?

I guess I should just let it play out.

 

[KGB]

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[mad sweeney]

So is Littlefinger's goal to marry Sansa or is it in some way related to his love for her mother?

Littlefinger's goal has been assuming more power, mostly behind the scenes power. I deleted what I just wrote because I am not positive it's the stated reason for going to the Aerie, where Cat's crazy ### sister Lyssa now rules after her husband's death in ep1, with her little creepy special needs child with a gargantuan mother complex is the heir. Here it is in spoilers, without any book knowledge but with a question on whether or not the show actually suggested he go that far, and even if you're incredibly sensitive about spoilers, it's completely inconsequential, imo:

Spoiler

Isn't he going there under "orders" from Tywin or Cersei to marry Lyssa and therefore gain the lands and soldiers of The Vale under Littlefinger, and therefore nominally allied with the Lannisters. Maybe he's there to do it without the marriage because the Tyrells were talking about him using Sansa to gain the north, but then again they don't know exactly what Littlefinger's orders are either.

 

[shadyridr]

Who is Littlefinger supposed to marry? Is she a character weve seen?

 

[gump]

Who is Littlefinger supposed to marry? Is she a character weve seen?

Cat's crazy sister...the one who held Tyrion captive in the cell with no wall.

 

[shadyridr]

Who is Littlefinger supposed to marry? Is she a character weve seen?

Cat's crazy sister...the one who held Tyrion captive in the cell with no wall.

thats who i thought but i thought her name was aryn

 

[mad sweeney]

Who is Littlefinger supposed to marry? Is she a character weve seen?

Cat's crazy sister...the one who held Tyrion captive in the cell with no wall.

thats who i thought but i thought her name was aryn

That's her last name. her husband was Jon Aeryn (who was much older and had Ned & Robert as his proxy sons, kind of like Theon). He was the hand that died at the beginning of the series while investigating Joffrey's lineage/Robert's bastards that made Robert seek out Ned to be his new Hand and setting all this crap in motion.

 

[Chadstroma]

So is Littlefinger's goal to marry Sansa or is it in some way related to his love for her mother?

It isn't Littlefinger unless he has angles for both.

 

[Ilov80s]

So is Littlefinger's goal to marry Sansa or is it in some way related to his love for her mother?

It isn't Littlefinger unless he has angles for both.

I would think Littlefinger marries the crazy Arryn chick. That makes him Lord of the Vale. Then he marries the breast feeding boy to Sansa. That pretty much makes him the Regent Lord of Winterfell untill breast feeder comes of age.

 

[Thunderlips]

So is Littlefinger's goal to marry Sansa or is it in some way related to his love for her mother?

I think he wants to make her bum red.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

What's the crazy Arryn chick getting out of marrying Littlefinger? She doesn't have to do it, does she? Not sure what he's bringing to the table here...

 

[Thunderlips]

What's the crazy Arryn chick getting out of marrying Littlefinger? She doesn't have to do it, does she? Not sure what he's bringing to the table here...

He's bringing Harranhall as he's the legit Lord of that manor.....as given to him by the King. He grew up with her and claims that he took her "maidenhead".

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I asked this in the other thread...but makes more sense here.I watch this show with Close-captioning....anyone else?

Why?

I had to turn CC on for Hannibal, and I'm too lazy to keep switching it on and off, so now I just watch everything with CC.

 

[Ilov80s]

What's the crazy Arryn chick getting out of marrying Littlefinger? She doesn't have to do it, does she? Not sure what he's bringing to the table here...

He's bringing Harranhall as he's the legit Lord of that manor.....as given to him by the King. He grew up with her and claims that he took her "maidenhead".

She needs allies. She is scared the Lannisters want to kill her son. She figures Baelish provides safety for her and her son.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

think the entire point of the explanation of the Kingslayer seen is about how ambiguous he "unseemly" past is. Sure he killed a king and threw a kid out the window and ####ed his sister but...he killed a Mad King who was about to burn everyone in the city in their beds, he threw the kid out the window to avoid having a civil war on his hands if it was revealed that Jaime was Joff's father, as for the third point... well http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Lena-Headey-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-633821_1200_1800.jpg

The mad king thing I can buy, but he pushed Bran out the window and casually chuckled "the things I do for love" before calmly waltzing back inside his sister.

The thing is, though, that he really did do it for love.

It was a terrible thing to do, but plenty of characters have done terrible things for much worse reasons than that.

 

[The Ref]

15 min to the next episode and I'm already disappointed there are only 3 left (after) and that I'll have to wait another week.

My guess is this will be a big plot development week. The Lanisters find out about Jamie, Rob works a deal with Frey, Aria takes a step closer to getting back to her family, Lanister/Tyrell plot thickens.... Lots of things to set up for the last few episodes.

 

[shadyridr]

15 min to the next episode and I'm already disappointed there are only 3 left (after) and that I'll have to wait another week. My guess is this will be a big plot development week. The Lanisters find out about Jamie, Rob works a deal with Frey, Aria takes a step closer to getting back to her family, Lanister/Tyrell plot thickens.... Lots of things to set up for the last few episodes.

4 left after tonight

 

[Raider Nation]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFDGqMppQzE

 

[Christo]

Do we really have enough time left in the season that they can waste a scene listening to this dumb ******* sing?

 

[Raider Nation]

It was a helluva tune though.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

It was a helluva tune though.

Made it my ringtone

 

[belljr]

sword swallower through and through