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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (7 Viewers)

thecatch said:
Looking at the map, it seems way more logical that the Tyrell army would have marched overland to Kings Landing rather than getting picked up in the ships. I think the idea was that the Tyrell army defected rather than getting obliterated. 

Also, didn't they make a big deal about how far the Unsullied would have to march to get back in the action? From the map, it seems like they have about the same distance to travel back to KL from Casterly Rock as the Lannister/Tarly army would from Highgarden
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I think its more that once the Unsullied force leave the castle they are vulnerable to attack. They are basically all just spearmen, they would be great against cavalry but they are going to take heavy casualties from a more diversified fighting force with archers and other support forces.

 
Do we know any details as to how Arya's face disguises work?  i.e. How often she can use them?  Is there a cost?  Does she need anything from the person she's impersonating?

 
packersfan said:
Still plenty of folks for her to kill. Going back home might not be as easy as she has thought so that will be interesting when she finally gets back to Winterfell.

That and I'm really hoping for a reunion with The Hound.
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Watch the preview for next week. It shows where she is compared to where Winterfell is.

 
Mile High said:
Watch the preview for next week. It shows where she is compared to where Winterfell is.
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Yeah I saw that. I'm never clear on the rules for trailers. Are they considered spoilers or not? To me, anything put out by the people making the show is not really a spoiler.  

 
Being in the good graces with the bank is a big, BIG deal. Means their credit is good again. Means they can buy extra provisions and hire sell swords. Make bribes and hire assassins. Gold wins wars. In order for Dany to bring money from her kingdoms in Essos, she has to bring it by ship. Euron could maraud the narrow sea and pick them off along the way. 

Also, the idea of Dany just flying to the wall seems pretty easy except the dragons are not Jets. They have to flap their wings the entire way. It's a thousand miles from Winterfell to Kingslanding. Farther to Dragonstone and farther still the wall to Dragonstone. Sure, it's faster than any other form of transportation but Dany would be out of communication for days if she flies there and back. 

 
TheFanatic said:
Being in the good graces with the bank is a big, BIG deal. Means their credit is good again. Means they can buy extra provisions and hire sell swords. Make bribes and hire assassins. Gold wins wars. In order for Dany to bring money from her kingdoms in Essos, she has to bring it by ship. Euron could maraud the narrow sea and pick them off along the way. 

Also, the idea of Dany just flying to the wall seems pretty easy except the dragons are not Jets. They have to flap their wings the entire way. It's a thousand miles from Winterfell to Kingslanding. Farther to Dragonstone and farther still the wall to Dragonstone. Sure, it's faster than any other form of transportation but Dany would be out of communication for days if she flies there and back. 
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So what's the maximum distance a mythical dragon can fly?

 
eoMMan said:
So what's the maximum distance a mythical dragon can fly?
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I have no idea how far it can fly. I'm guessing these dragons can fly more than a thousand miles if they want to, but the question is how fast can they fly? Do they fly 50 miles an hour?That's 20 straight hours of flight. Dany couldn't hold on that long I wouldn't think. They would have to stop and rest and split it over a couple of days at least. And that's one way. 

 
TheFanatic said:
Being in the good graces with the bank is a big, BIG deal. Means their credit is good again. Means they can buy extra provisions and hire sell swords. Make bribes and hire assassins. Gold wins wars. In order for Dany to bring money from her kingdoms in Essos, she has to bring it by ship. Euron could maraud the narrow sea and pick them off along the way. 

Also, the idea of Dany just flying to the wall seems pretty easy except the dragons are not Jets. They have to flap their wings the entire way. It's a thousand miles from Winterfell to Kingslanding. Farther to Dragonstone and farther still the wall to Dragonstone. Sure, it's faster than any other form of transportation but Dany would be out of communication for days if she flies there and back. 
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Come on, Man....do I have to think of everything?  Just put a Maester with some ravens on the dragons back.  

 
Is it gonna go something like this?

Banker: Pay me

Cersi: Ok here 

Banker: Thanks

Cersi: Can I have that back?  I have some single shot catapults to build.

 
Thunderlips said:
In the case of the Tyrells, their premier Bannerman defected.  With no male heirs in the Tyrell family.....that house's future is uncertain. I'm sure the loyal Tyrell Men At Arms defended Olenna to the end (as indicated) but it would make no sense for lesser Houses/Bannerman to remain loyal.  Think Umbers/Karstarks and the Boltons.

With the Dornish, they have much more of a personal cause to side with Dany (Dany's brother was married to a Martell....and there seems to be a general hatred of Lannisters in that kingdom.....but Ellaria seemed to not be on the up and up in her claiming rulership.  It wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility for the greater Houses of Dorne to be sitting out this one.
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and the mountain killed the children of Rhaegar and the Martell wife (forget her name), then raped and killed said wife - so there is some common ground on hating the Lannisters

 
When I first saw the title of the episode as being "Queen's Justice", I was thinking it was referring to either Dany or Cersei.  The more I think about it, maybe it was a reference to Lady Olenna, and her dying words.

 
kupcho1 said:
How does Euron keep sneaking up on fleets and castles?  Is he a magician?  Stealth boats? 

Any thoughts?
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While not explained in much detail, Euron has some magic stuff going on with his fleet. This may include some sort of masking/fog like power. 

 
packersfan said:
Jamie knew all along Tyrion was innocent. That's why he helped him escape. I think the biggest takeway is he now knows who killed Joffrey. And if Cersei still wants Tyrion's blood over that it could put Jamie right in the middle. 
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Yes and he still killed tywin on his way out. I don't think Jamie would of helped him if he knew that was part of the deal. As long as Cersei has Jamie by the nuts he is not crossing her.

 
curious - Edmure Tully and Riverrun - did the Lannister's stay there to man the castle, turn it over to the Frey's?  Or is Edmure there with an army and a pretty strong dislike of the Lannisters?

 
Ilov80s said:
I don't think Ellaria dies in that prison. Dorne has to have some kind of role going forward, right?
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Probably been commented on, but the start of this season is all about trimming down plots and getting people concentrated in a couple areas for the final season. 

- Sam's punishment isn't a coincidence.  He probably stumbles on more info about Jon or how to fight walkers in the dusty scrolls and then he takes off. 

- Jorah is already cured and will be heading to Dany

- Dorne and Tyrells are dead, so now Lannister army is free to go back to the Capital so they are around when/if Dany comes for Cersei

- Remaining Stark kids are at or heading to Winterfell and just about everybody is there or heading to the wall for battle with the walkers. 

My guess I within the next couple episodes we will be down to around the capital, Winterfell, and the Wall and concentrate on just that going forward.  Dany has to choose between going after Cersei or deciding to believe Jon and help him - she has taken too many losses to do both now I would assume - maybe the Unsullied can haul ### across Westeros and meet up somehow, but not sure how that would work.  It just seems like most of the major families we have met are gone now - Boltons, Freys, Martell, Tyrell, Tully, etc.. 

 
Capella said:
Oh come on you guys gave me hell about some stupid fn tree for 16 hours. This guy doesn't even know the show is ending!
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Sure, but the guy lending money to the White Walkers so they can wage war can be forgiven for not having time to pay attention to details.  Wars cost money, you know.  You're just blogging about playing with your balls.

 
Hot Diggity Dog said:
Yes and he still killed tywin on his way out. I don't think Jamie would of helped him if he knew that was part of the deal. As long as Cersei has Jamie by the nuts he is not crossing her.
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He loves his brother maybe as much as Cersei. Even after Cersei threw Tywin's death in Jamie's face he didn't seem to regret setting Tyrion free. It seems inevitable there will be one final Cersei-Tyrion-Jamie situation. 

 
Bushead said:
curious - Edmure Tully and Riverrun - did the Lannister's stay there to man the castle, turn it over to the Frey's?  Or is Edmure there with an army and a pretty strong dislike of the Lannisters?
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Technically, I guess he has a claim to the Lord of the Riverlands....although his family was cast aside for the Freys. I guess if Cersei is honoring what Joffery/Tywin did....she'd pass the Lord mantle to the closest Frey relative (Since she doesn't have a problem with women assuming power roles...I guess that title would go to Walder Frey's latest wife...I'm assuming that girl that Arya let live).

If the Riverlands throw support behind Jon Snow as they did Robb.....then Edmure has the most legit claim....although he probably doesn't have much respect amongst his men for basically being a ##### and letting the Lannisters walk in the castle and kill The Blackfish. 

 
matttyl said:
When I first saw the title of the episode as being "Queen's Justice", I was thinking it was referring to either Dany or Cersei.  The more I think about it, maybe it was a reference to Lady Olenna, and her dying words.
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She was not a queen in Game of Thrones.

 
Bushead said:
curious - Edmure Tully and Riverrun - did the Lannister's stay there to man the castle, turn it over to the Frey's?  Or is Edmure there with an army and a pretty strong dislike of the Lannisters?
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That's a good question. Edmure has an army. It was disarmed by the Lannisters. Actually, I should say he has more of a garrison. Not really an army I would think. He has to have far fewer men than the 8K Jamie brought with him. I believe they were booted from the castle by Jamie but allowed to live. Wouldn't Winterfell be the right place for them?

 
NewlyRetired said:
She was not a queen in Game of Thrones.
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Sure she was. Her son was killed in the Sept as were his two children. She would be the next in line. And either she would be queen or queen mother to some nephew to be king in training in which she would run the show until she felt he was good enough to do it or she died. 

ETA, her nickname is the Queen of Thorns. So she is a queen of sorts. And the title was her getting some justice for going against the Lannisters and dispensing some herself as well as Cersei getting hers for the death of her daughter and the defacto queen of Dorne being on the receiving end. So 3 queens had some justice to give or receive. 

 
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Quint said:
if you watch that scene again, you'll see Jamie pouring both glasses and bringing them to the table. 
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She'd have poisoned the wine beforehand.  She knows Jamie has a courteous/knightly quality to him and that he would possibly pour some wine.  Alternatively, she could have asked him for a glass.  Also could have had backup plans set.  

Just a thought  :-)

 
TheFanatic said:
Sure she was. Her son was killed in the Sept as were his two children. She would be the next in line. And either she would be queen or queen mother to some nephew to be king in training in which she would run the show until she felt he was good enough to do it or she died. 
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Can you explain this more?  What was she going to be queen of?  

Her husband was a Lord not King when he was alive.  She was considered the Lady of House Tyrell.

 
NewlyRetired said:
Can you explain this more?  What was she going to be queen of?  

Her husband was a Lord not King when he was alive.  She was considered the Lady of House Tyrell.
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Her husband was dead. Her son was the king of Highgarden. He was in the Sept when it blew along with his heirs. With no one else left alive to rule Highgarden, she ruled. 

 
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