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huh. they made kind of a big deal out of the hound and mountain's backstory in the series. and each has had their own devlopment as the show has progressed that have been integral to main plot points. am I wrong here? they're minor characters in no need of resolution? anyboyd else want to chime in?
I think the Hound definitely is...hes a great character..And of course Arya is(duh)
If they don't fight I am going to be highly disappointed. Hound needs to get his revenge! That said hound is one of my favorite characters of the series, if not the favorite
I don't think it will be part of the larger battle- I think arya and the hound walk right into KL prior to any large scale thing and go find the fight.
They actually started fighting at one of the festivals, and Baratheon told them to cut the ####.
Not a lot of credibility to this list if doesn't contain Butcher's Boy or Pycelle, IMO.
Dany has killed people that deserve it, but did it in a way that Jon certainly wouldn’t approve of (burned the witch in season 1, locked 2 people in a vault in Qarth). She crucified en masse hundreds of Meereen nobles. She fed a couple others to her dragons. She burned alive the Dothraki khals. And that’s before we get to the Rickon thing. Most if not all of these people had it coming, but she’s always had a very ruthless edge to her, and now she’s feeling vulnerable and isolated. If the show had given itself a couple more seasons, they could have slow played her shift in behavior a little more gracefully, but it’s not coming totally out of left field either.
I brought it up earlier but comments get buried in this thread fast. My thought is if Jon had been riding Rhaegal maybe because he has a warriors sense about him but with Dany, she looked to just be enjoying the moment and joyriding. Look at her at the mark on this video, she's happy, content and feels safe. I feel like a seasoned fighter might have had a more military approach to Dragonstone before you go off joyriding. Especially if you watch from the beginning. The dragons almost had to pass close to or right by Euron's fleet. They were certainly high enough to see them. As they fly toward Dragonstone, they turn left and head back out to sea where Raeghal then becomes a pincushion.
Arya I could see, she's small, can dress like almost any street urchin she chooses and go in easily. The Hound I have my doubts about. He's one of the most recognizable people in the 7 Kingdoms and he's kinda huge but I know in the interest of time, he too will walk in unapproached.
Looking back, it seems clear the writers started with the premise that Dany and Cersei needed to be evenly matched by the end, and worked backwards from there to find ways to knock Dany’s forces down a few pegs.
Wasn’t the Tully army like the 20 guys the Blackfish had with him? If the Tully army wasn’t destroyed they had to have been at least disbanded.
I think you and me had this conversation perhaps in the offseason somewhere. I said it would make more sense for Dany to just deal with Cersi first then the NK, but was reminded that as it stood her army was gigantic and would be a mismatch.
Agreed. I guess they had to demonstrate that those ballistas can actually do the job, and thus are a check on the last dragon, but if the goal was just to off one more, they should have just let Viseryon die in the previous episode at the hands of the undead.
I think that's the easy leap of faith right now. Varys has said over and over and even in the last episode, he is for the realm so while he is in Dany's camp right now I don't think he would have any regrets doing what he thinks would be right for the realm. He's also voiced his concerns about Dany's state of mind so everything points toward that except...the person he is championing, Jon, wouldn't benefit from any of this. Losing the last dragon would be devastating to their cause barring some last minute savior army showing up (Second Sons, Dorne, etc).
How'd you view her?
I agree, seems to me there was some chemistry on both sides during her prisoner marching Jamie from to KL.
Whoa let’s not go crazy with this stuff any one of us would have done 4 seasons ago talk.
No. Varys does what's best for the realm above all. He has been true to that the entire series, doing what he can to make the 7 Kingdoms good for the people. He would not be helping Cersei in anyway shape or form unless we are getting the 180 degree heel turn.
didn't she crucify the slavers?
It's the difference between allowing the belief of mystical creatures and giving up on the laws of physics all together.
I'm leaning toward her "doing the right thing" for the people in the end. I'm figuring either her or Jon don't live through whatever comes next, maybe both, as a result. I'm leaning toward Jon eating it, with Dany being pregnant with his kid (somehow the prophecy about how she can't get pregnant until all that crazy stuff happening being fulfilled) and giving birth to the next heir.
