ScottyFargo
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The Pack still loooooves the 3 and 4 wide, despite no protection for Rodgers.
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Game Thread W10 - Green Bay V Minnesota (1 Viewer)
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Interseptopus
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Rodgers has no time to throw. Looks scared
EdwardCat
Footballguy
No protection. he got the ball and ran for his life. Unfortunately, there was nothing behind him but the endzone.
dparker713
Footballguy
LT got beaten badly by Allen. Instead of throwing it away, Rodgers tried to run away from the pressure and it wasnt close.
Flash
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Maelstrom
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Allen came from behind Rogers as he was rolling out to the right. I don't think Rogers had a chance.
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Mr Anonymous
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I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.Right...
ScottyFargo
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Packers secondary is going to keep this game close, for sure.
Interseptopus
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Have you watched more than one GB game this year? Watching them every week he looks comfortable throwing the ball, he is in control. Today he looks scared. He is loking all over the field, he is jumpy in the pocket, he is losing the football (as on the first safety), his play looks like one playing scared.I'm not talking abotu the physical look of his face, talking abot his game play. Please tell me you've heard the phrase "playing scared" before.......
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dparker713
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I know Tavaris Jackson didnt look good, but atleast he theoretically has upside. So why stay with Gus? That pass was terrible, but its something you can expect from him atleast once a game.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
This game is exciting, but it's horribly played. Bad throws, bad blocking, bad everything.
ArcticEdge
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No way it could be the stellar play by the Vikes defensive line..I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Yeah. If they brought in Frerrote to not make bonehead throws, then they failedGet back to Jackson
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Take it you didn't watch the week 1 game where Clifton held his own very well against Allen... or against TB where he held his own as well. Our T are not the problem.I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.
Zow
Footballguy
seriously. i've given childress the benefit of the doubt because i like the guy and the way he came in and pushed for solid, hard play. but the gameday strategy is simply horrid. some kid who plays Madden could honestly coach this offense better during the game. i hate saying that, but i believe it is true.
Interseptopus
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No way it could be the stellar play by the Vikes defensive line..I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.
The OL has been stellar in pass protection the entire season thus far. One bad game and people are calling for a "major overhaul" Calling out Clifton and Tauscher nonetheless- the two guys we NEED to keep on the OL!!!
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Mr Anonymous
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Geez, you Vikings fans are insufferable. Yes, the Vikings D-Line is making it more obvious, but the bottom line is the Packers O-Line has been regressing all year.No way it could be the stellar play by the Vikes defensive line..I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.
Zow
Footballguy
i'm with ya. i didn't like the benching. If we were gonna play for this year why didn't we go after like a Losman, Carr, Todd Collins, Leftwich or the like. Given that we thought we had a chance this year to make some noise (which I agree with) our QB personnel strategy made no sense. Frerotte is not gonna be a guy to make plays and he doesn't avoid mistakes like a Kerry Collins.
ArcticEdge
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You guys have Daryn Colledge from North Pole High School.Take it you didn't watch the week 1 game where Clifton held his own very well against Allen... or against TB where he held his own as well. Our T are not the problem.I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.
Interseptopus
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Ummm to me it looks like they're getting better. Wells is back in the mix for the last few weeks, they seem to be running the ball somewhat okay, and they rank dead middle in the league (14th) in sacks allowed...Geez, you Vikings fans are insufferable. Yes, the Vikings D-Line is making it more obvious, but the bottom line is the Packers O-Line has been regressing all year.No way it could be the stellar play by the Vikes defensive line..I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.
You forget that MIN had the #1 ranked D preseason?
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Flash
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Oh my.....Have you watched more than one GB game this year? Watching them every week he looks comfortable throwing the ball, he is in control. Today he looks scared. He is loking all over the field, he is jumpy in the pocket, he is losing the football (as on the first safety), his play looks like one playing scared.I'm not talking abotu the physical look of his face, talking abot his game play. Please tell me you've heard the phrase "playing scared" before.......
Playing scared would mean he's making bad throws, forcing things. He's playing well, he's being rushed on every single play.He's not playing scared at all.
ArcticEdge
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SAY OUR D-LINE IS GOOD, SAY IT!!!Geez, you Vikings fans are insufferable. Yes, the Vikings D-Line is making it more obvious, but the bottom line is the Packers O-Line has been regressing all year.No way it could be the stellar play by the Vikes defensive line..I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.
Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
The Packers gave up 19 sacks the entire regular season last year. Including today, they've now given up 20 in just over half a season. Yeah, no decline there.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
As bad as the O-line might be playing, Rodgers does hold the ball way to long on 90% of passing plays.
sho nuff
Footballguy
First of all, they have not been stellar in pass protection all year.2nd...Clifton and Tauscher's play has declined this year...that is no secret. There is a reason McCarthy has had Clifton practicing more at times that he may have with his knees...because even his play has been down.I would not be shocked if they at some point decide to scrap the zone blocking and overhaul a few things.Though, I hope Tauscher is resigned to help in that transition as well.No way it could be the stellar play by the Vikes defensive line..I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.
Interseptopus
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And different defensive schemes from a QB switch and poor play from the RBs has absolutely NOTHING to do with that right?
sho nuff
Footballguy
Its part of it...but you have to admit the line has not played all that well all year long.And different defensive schemes from a QB switch and poor play from the RBs has absolutely NOTHING to do with that right?
Flash
Footballguy
A switch to a QB who is 100% more mobile than our last QB.Truth is, and anyone who follows the Packers religiously, is that our OL is in definite decline this year.And different defensive schemes from a QB switch and poor play from the RBs has absolutely NOTHING to do with that right?
Ookie Pringle
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Oh my.....Have you watched more than one GB game this year? Watching them every week he looks comfortable throwing the ball, he is in control. Today he looks scared. He is loking all over the field, he is jumpy in the pocket, he is losing the football (as on the first safety), his play looks like one playing scared.I'm not talking abotu the physical look of his face, talking abot his game play. Please tell me you've heard the phrase "playing scared" before.......
He's not playing scared at all.
Rodgers did not play well in the fist half. I'm not sure what game you are watching.
Ookie Pringle
Footballguy
Interseptopus
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So our pass blocking is so bad we need to change our run blocking???First of all, they have not been stellar in pass protection all year.2nd...Clifton and Tauscher's play has declined this year...that is no secret. There is a reason McCarthy has had Clifton practicing more at times that he may have with his knees...because even his play has been down.No way it could be the stellar play by the Vikes defensive line..I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.
Calling out Clifton and Tauscher nonetheless- the two guys we NEED to keep on the OL!!!
I would not be shocked if they at some point decide to scrap the zone blocking and overhaul a few things.
Though, I hope Tauscher is resigned to help in that transition as well.
Yes, Clifton and Tauscher aren't the same players they were last year, but saying we need a major overhaul when those are possibly the best 2 linemen we have is simply ridiculous. Calling for an overhaul, that we need to get rid of Clifton and Tauscher and start over again is just going backwards. You think this is bad... just imagine 2 rooks starting at T... 
Interseptopus
Footballguy
But has earned ZERO respect in the league. Of course teams are going to throw all kinds of things at him.Yes the OL has declined a little, our T are old, it's going to happen, but calling for a major overhaul is just ridiculous. Talk about setting the franchise back 2 years...A switch to a QB who is 100% more mobile than our last QB.Truth is, and anyone who follows the Packers religiously, is that our OL is in definite decline this year.And different defensive schemes from a QB switch and poor play from the RBs has absolutely NOTHING to do with that right?
Major overhaul is one thing, draft OL high next year to groom is another
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
Back to the beer, back to the game. Go Pack
Flash
Footballguy
Did I say he played well?A little reading comprehension here please.Oh my.....Have you watched more than one GB game this year? Watching them every week he looks comfortable throwing the ball, he is in control. Today he looks scared. He is loking all over the field, he is jumpy in the pocket, he is losing the football (as on the first safety), his play looks like one playing scared.I'm not talking abotu the physical look of his face, talking abot his game play. Please tell me you've heard the phrase "playing scared" before.......
He's not playing scared at all.
I said
Playing well? Well he's not playing that bad, but he's getting murdered back there, and seriously rushed on every play.McCarthy better make some adjustments at half.
Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
The RB play was even worse last year to this point. Do you remember who they were trotting out there the first 7 games last year? Yes Favre was better at getting the ball off quicker than Rodgers. Was he good enough to cut the number of sacks allowed in half were he still here? I think not. As someone said earlier. The decline of Tauscher and Clifton this year is no secret.Fact: The Packers are on pace to allow twice as many sacks as they did last year. And the running game is gaining less yards per carry this year compared to '07. 3.7 this year versus 4.1 in 2007.And different defensive schemes from a QB switch and poor play from the RBs has absolutely NOTHING to do with that right?
sho nuff
Footballguy
Im saying the whole line has not been great this year...pass blocking and run blocking.And its well known that if you want to change the scheme...it calls for a different type of lineman.So our pass blocking is so bad we need to change our run blocking???First of all, they have not been stellar in pass protection all year.2nd...Clifton and Tauscher's play has declined this year...that is no secret. There is a reason McCarthy has had Clifton practicing more at times that he may have with his knees...because even his play has been down.No way it could be the stellar play by the Vikes defensive line..I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.
Calling out Clifton and Tauscher nonetheless- the two guys we NEED to keep on the OL!!!
I would not be shocked if they at some point decide to scrap the zone blocking and overhaul a few things.
Though, I hope Tauscher is resigned to help in that transition as well.
I don't think anyone said just get rid of Clifton and Tauscher and start over. Why are you making that up?
Flash
Footballguy
Please point out where I called for a major overhaul.But has earned ZERO respect in the league. Of course teams are going to throw all kinds of things at him.Yes the OL has declined a little, our T are old, it's going to happen, but calling for a major overhaul is just ridiculous. Talk about setting the franchise back 2 years...A switch to a QB who is 100% more mobile than our last QB.Truth is, and anyone who follows the Packers religiously, is that our OL is in definite decline this year.And different defensive schemes from a QB switch and poor play from the RBs has absolutely NOTHING to do with that right?
Major overhaul is one thing, draft OL high next year to groom is another
Ookie Pringle
Footballguy
Yes.... you did say he was playing well. See the bolded part.Oh my.....Have you watched more than one GB game this year? Watching them every week he looks comfortable throwing the ball, he is in control. Today he looks scared. He is loking all over the field, he is jumpy in the pocket, he is losing the football (as on the first safety), his play looks like one playing scared.I'm not talking abotu the physical look of his face, talking abot his game play. Please tell me you've heard the phrase "playing scared" before.......
He's not playing scared at all.
Flash
Footballguy
Ookie Pringle
Footballguy
See the bolded part. Yes you did say he's playing well.Did I say he played well?A little reading comprehension here please.I saidOh my.....Have you watched more than one GB game this year? Watching them every week he looks comfortable throwing the ball, he is in control. Today he looks scared. He is loking all over the field, he is jumpy in the pocket, he is losing the football (as on the first safety), his play looks like one playing scared.I'm not talking abotu the physical look of his face, talking abot his game play. Please tell me you've heard the phrase "playing scared" before.......
He's not playing scared at all.
Playing well? Well he's not playing that bad, but he's getting murdered back there, and seriously rushed on every play.McCarthy better make some adjustments at half.
Flash
Footballguy
Yes.... you did say he was playing well. See the bolded part.Oh my.....Have you watched more than one GB game this year? Watching them every week he looks comfortable throwing the ball, he is in control. Today he looks scared. He is loking all over the field, he is jumpy in the pocket, he is losing the football (as on the first safety), his play looks like one playing scared.I'm not talking abotu the physical look of his face, talking abot his game play. Please tell me you've heard the phrase "playing scared" before.......
He's not playing scared at all.
Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
Get a brain dude. When the only two above average players on your OL are showing signs of serious decline and are showing their age, it certainly means overhaul if they don't turn it around. If Clifton and Tauscher don't find the fountain of youth, the team definitely starts planning for possible replacements. Isn't a Tauscher a FA anyway? And if Spitz and Colledge show no improvement here in season three, you can bet there probably won't be a season four for them. There's a decent chance that 3 of the 5 staters are different next year. And easily 4 if injuries can't be overcome by another. If that's not a potential overhaul, I don't know what is.
MSULions
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Ummm to me it looks like they're getting better. Wells is back in the mix for the last few weeks, they seem to be running the ball somewhat okay, and they rank dead middle in the league (14th) in sacks allowed...Geez, you Vikings fans are insufferable. Yes, the Vikings D-Line is making it more obvious, but the bottom line is the Packers O-Line has been regressing all year.No way it could be the stellar play by the Vikes defensive line..I take it you haven't noticed the drop off in play by Clifton and Tauscher this year. You know, the Packers only 2 above average lineman coming into this year.
And the Lions were 4-0
ArcticEdge
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NICE CUT CHESTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOUCHDOWN VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
money.never.sleeps
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Chester 47 yds. to the house. Nice move.
Too bad he's on my bench !
Too bad he's on my bench !
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