General Malaise "vs." reading comprehension ; also some talk of skyim and the elder scrolls (2 Viewers)

[GregR]

You know that haughty Thalmor ambassador and his two guards in the palace in Markarth? It turns out if you murder the three of them right in front of the palace guards, that it only costs you 20 septims to buy off your wanted status via Thieves Guild connections.

Money. Well. Spent.

 

[Jeff Vader]

You know that haughty Thalmor ambassador and his two guards in the palace in Markarth? It turns out if you murder the three of them right in front of the palace guards, that it only costs you 20 septims to buy off your wanted status via Thieves Guild connections.Money. Well. Spent.

If there's one group I can't stand in this game, it's the Thalmor. I also murder them on sight. I've even run psychotic murder raids into their embassy.

 

[GregR]

$%@# Microsoft. I revoke write permission from my SkyrimPrefs.ini file to keep Steam from overwriting it with default values. Only Windows applied the change to the entire Skyrim folder rather than to the file.

Which means the Saves folder was also locked and so I'm playing along, blissfully unaware nothing is getting saved. Luckily the game crashed and I realized something was up when I restarted it. Only lost an hour and a half, could have been a lot worse.

 

[GregR]

For anyone on PC who would like to give modifying the game with the Creation Kit a try, I figured I'd give a quick example of how to do a small but (I think) useful edit. In this case, I hate that those Unusual Gem / Stone of Barenziah are quest items that have weight and can't be dropped. So a simple fix is to go make them weightless.

Installing Creation Kit

First, download the Creation Kit from Steam. Go to your Library, choose View-> Tools, and look for "Creation Kit" in the list, and then right click to install it. Once it is done, right click and Play.

It will launch with a background window and 3 smaller windows, one for objects, one to view Cells (locations) and a render window.

Select the Data file the object is in

First thing is you need to select which data file you want to view. So in the big background window, click on File -> Data. There are probably only two Plugin/Master Files available unless you have a lot of mods. Double click on the Skyrim.esm Master File and say Ok. It will give some warnings about problems it found in the file, just hit Yes to All to skip them.

Find the object to edit

Now we've essentially loaded every object in the game. Finding the right one can be a pain. The simplest way is to go to Edit -> Find Text and do a search for what we're looking for. So put: Unusual Gem in the search box and hit Find Text. The different matches are split out by info, scripts (programs), Objects, quest stages, etc. Click on the Objects tab and we see there is a MiscItem type of object named "TGCrownGemInventory (0009DFBB)". The TG stands for Thieves Guild, a lot of objects and scripts get something like that put in the name so you can tell what they are part of. You can double click on the row right there to bring up the editor for the item, but first lets go look at the item in the Object Window.

Click on the Object Window. On the left under filter look for Items -> MiscItem. Click on the word MiscItem and then scroll down on the right to find TGCrownGemInventory. You could also just type tgcrown in the Filter box top left to cut the list down.

So you can see some stats for it here. There are 24 of them in the game world. The Model is the actual image used for its appearance in game. Name is "Unusual Gem". And Weight is 0.5, our culprit.

Ok, now double click on the item, either in the Object Window or the Text Search window. The only parameter we want to change is the Weight, changing it to 0.0000 and then hit Ok.

Save our edits to a new plugin file

Now the last thing we need to do is save a plugin file that has our edit in it. In the main window click on File-> Save, or just hit the Save icon. It will save it as an .esp. I'm going to call it Barenziah_zero_weight, and let it write it into the default directory, our Skyrim/Data directory where it needs to go.

The Kit will only save new or edited things into the file. So it's not making a file with a copy of everything in it. It's making a file with just our edited Unusual Gem in it.

It is possible to save the edit to an existing file. If we wanted to edit our file we just made, we would select it in our Data files when we first run Creation Kit, and we would use the "Set as Active File" button in that window to tell the game we want to save the edit back into the existing file. Don't ever set the original Skyrim.esm as your Active File. I'm not even sure if it will let you, but you always want to create your own plugin, or edit an existing plugin, not create a whole new copy of the original as that is unnecessary.

Now tell the game to include our plugin

Simple step is now we run SkyrimLauncher and click on Data. We should see our plugin file in the list, and it looks like it added it in automatically when we did.

This is how the game loads objects... first it loads all objects in Skyrim.esm, the master file. Then it loads any files in its data file list (which we just added our plugin to). If it loads a copy of an item, then finds the same exact item in a later data file, the last one in wins and overwrites the others. So Skyrim.esm always gets loaded first, so our plugin loads after it and our edited Unusual Gem will overwrite the original Unusual Gem. But the original is still there, so if we ever wanted to undo our change we could just remove our plugin file, or even just deselect it from the list of Data files.

That's it. Then run the game and check your inventory and you should see any Unusual Gem or Stone of Barenziah as being 0 weight.

By the way I'll add, I'm not 100% certain how they get the name to change from "Unusual Gem" to "Stone of Barenziah" like that. I actually searched for both, expecting to find different items with both names. But in looking at the quest script, I see some things about name aliases going on that must be doing the rename, I just don't understand how it works fully. That's part of the fun, is getting to look at scripts and things and see how they work.

I would caution against doing a lot of poking and then saving a plugin. You don't want to inadvertently change something you didn't mean to. So when actually making a plugin, I'd just go change whatever things I meant and save it, and don't go exploring in that session.

 

[NCCommish]

That's the kind of stuff I miss about not playing on PC. I love the mods, creation kits and all that.

 

[culdeus]

this forge the galdor thing is...hard and will wipe me out of all my potions.

These bosses that cast disarm can suck my ####. Is there any defense against that? I end up fighting bosses with level 1 destruction type spells.

 

[NCCommish]

this forge the galdor thing is...hard and will wipe me out of all my potions. These bosses that cast disarm can suck my ####. Is there any defense against that? I end up fighting bosses with level 1 destruction type spells.

That was a tough one. You can't really defend it but you can dodge it. And earlier in this thread I posted some hints on getting through from my personal experience. Places to shoot from that the bad guys seem to ignore and stuff like that.

 

[culdeus]

this forge the galdor thing is...hard and will wipe me out of all my potions. These bosses that cast disarm can suck my ####. Is there any defense against that? I end up fighting bosses with level 1 destruction type spells.

That was a tough one. You can't really defend it but you can dodge it. And earlier in this thread I posted some hints on getting through from my personal experience. Places to shoot from that the bad guys seem to ignore and stuff like that.

I haven't beaten it yet. Twice I die close to the end because I get trapped between two of the steps. I have another strategy that worked on a different guy like that where I use this staff to make extra people. That distracts them long enough to recharge health and snipe with a bow. That's probably enough to get it done.

 

[NCCommish]

this forge the galdor thing is...hard and will wipe me out of all my potions.

These bosses that cast disarm can suck my ####. Is there any defense against that? I end up fighting bosses with level 1 destruction type spells.

That was a tough one. You can't really defend it but you can dodge it. And earlier in this thread I posted some hints on getting through from my personal experience. Places to shoot from that the bad guys seem to ignore and stuff like that.

I haven't beaten it yet. Twice I die close to the end because I get trapped between two of the steps. I have another strategy that worked on a different guy like that where I use this staff to make extra people. That distracts them long enough to recharge health and snipe with a bow. That's probably enough to get it done.

Yeah that sounds cool wish I had that. I died a lot myself getting this done. But the perk is really good especially for lower level characters.

 

[culdeus]

this forge the galdor thing is...hard and will wipe me out of all my potions.

These bosses that cast disarm can suck my ####. Is there any defense against that? I end up fighting bosses with level 1 destruction type spells.

That was a tough one. You can't really defend it but you can dodge it. And earlier in this thread I posted some hints on getting through from my personal experience. Places to shoot from that the bad guys seem to ignore and stuff like that.

I haven't beaten it yet. Twice I die close to the end because I get trapped between two of the steps. I have another strategy that worked on a different guy like that where I use this staff to make extra people. That distracts them long enough to recharge health and snipe with a bow. That's probably enough to get it done.

Yeah that sounds cool wish I had that. I died a lot myself getting this done. But the perk is really good especially for lower level characters.

conjuring flame guys does seem like the easy button. I can't make them fast enough to beat this one. I am in an odd spot. I guess I'll just plow down the main quest line from here and finish that. At that point I'll probably take a long break and come back some time later.

 

[The Hank]

just got 1000/1000 achievement points...

going to clear out my quest log now and wait for expansion packs to come.

 

[GregR]

For anyone else playing on PC with multiple monitors, found a solution for an issue when using the console.

Normally you can click on an NPC and then use a targeted command, like removeitem to drop a follower's default bow so they use the one you gave them. But I found when I would click on the NPC it wouldn't select him, it was selecting something else. It turns out with 3 monitors, though you're selecting on the middle screen, it's actually selecting objects on your left monitor. So all I had to do was get the NPC in the middle of my left monitor, and then click in the same area of my center monitor and it selected him.

You can also just look up his RefID in the UESP on the web, and then use prid <RefID> to select him and after any command you do with player.<command> will target him.

 

[NCCommish]

I have been cheating this weekend with Star Wars Force Unleashed. Like all the SW games you are pretty much on a rail. Still sometimes that isn't all bad. Not a bad game, lots of action. Think I like KOTOR better though so far.

 

[Chaka]

Okay I finally got my new video card (GeForce GTX480) and I am in the process of installing the PC version of Skyrim I purchased from Frys and it is requiring me to play through Steam. WTF?

Is Steam required for all PC versions? Are there dedicated PC only versions?

There is no indication on the game box or guide that Steam would be required to install and play the game. I am not happy about this.

 

[NCCommish]

Okay I finally got my new video card (GeForce GTX480) and I am in the process of installing the PC version of Skyrim I purchased from Frys and it is requiring me to play through Steam. WTF?Is Steam required for all PC versions? Are there dedicated PC only versions? There is no indication on the game box or guide that Steam would be required to install and play the game. I am not happy about this.

I think you have to have Steam to get DLC and updates.

 

[Chaka]

Okay I finally got my new video card (GeForce GTX480) and I am in the process of installing the PC version of Skyrim I purchased from Frys and it is requiring me to play through Steam. WTF?Is Steam required for all PC versions? Are there dedicated PC only versions? There is no indication on the game box or guide that Steam would be required to install and play the game. I am not happy about this.

I think you have to have Steam to get DLC and updates.

Maybe but this seems to be more than that. Perhaps I am just unfamiliar with the Steam concept in general but I installed the game but I see no "Bethesda" or "Skyrim" folders in my "Program Files" folder. I can't find any installed Bethesda files at all. When I try to launch I get a popup window telling me that it will launch through Steam. What am I missing here?When I installed mods on Oblivion I was required to install them to the "Oblivion" folder, how would I install a mod for Skyrim without a file folder? I would prefer a completely local install like I had with Oblivion, is that an option for PC users?

 

[NCCommish]

Okay I finally got my new video card (GeForce GTX480) and I am in the process of installing the PC version of Skyrim I purchased from Frys and it is requiring me to play through Steam. WTF?Is Steam required for all PC versions? Are there dedicated PC only versions? There is no indication on the game box or guide that Steam would be required to install and play the game. I am not happy about this.

I think you have to have Steam to get DLC and updates.

Maybe but this seems to be more than that. Perhaps I am just unfamiliar with the Steam concept in general but I installed the game but I see no "Bethesda" or "Skyrim" folders in my "Program Files" folder. I can't find any installed Bethesda files at all. When I try to launch I get a popup window telling me that it will launch through Steam. What am I missing here?When I installed mods on Oblivion I was required to install them to the "Oblivion" folder, how would I install a mod for Skyrim without a file folder? I would prefer a completely local install like I had with Oblivion, is that an option for PC users?

Sorry I play on console and haven't done a new PC game in years.

 

[Chaka]

Okay I finally got my new video card (GeForce GTX480) and I am in the process of installing the PC version of Skyrim I purchased from Frys and it is requiring me to play through Steam. WTF?

Is Steam required for all PC versions? Are there dedicated PC only versions?

There is no indication on the game box or guide that Steam would be required to install and play the game. I am not happy about this.

I think you have to have Steam to get DLC and updates.

Maybe but this seems to be more than that. Perhaps I am just unfamiliar with the Steam concept in general but I installed the game but I see no "Bethesda" or "Skyrim" folders in my "Program Files" folder. I can't find any installed Bethesda files at all. When I try to launch I get a popup window telling me that it will launch through Steam. What am I missing here?

When I installed mods on Oblivion I was required to install them to the "Oblivion" folder, how would I install a mod for Skyrim without a file folder? I would prefer a completely local install like I had with Oblivion, is that an option for PC users?

Sorry I play on console and haven't done a new PC game in years.

My link

 

[GregR]

Okay I finally got my new video card (GeForce GTX480) and I am in the process of installing the PC version of Skyrim I purchased from Frys and it is requiring me to play through Steam. WTF?Is Steam required for all PC versions? Are there dedicated PC only versions? There is no indication on the game box or guide that Steam would be required to install and play the game. I am not happy about this.

I think you have to have Steam to get DLC and updates.

Maybe but this seems to be more than that. Perhaps I am just unfamiliar with the Steam concept in general but I installed the game but I see no "Bethesda" or "Skyrim" folders in my "Program Files" folder. I can't find any installed Bethesda files at all. When I try to launch I get a popup window telling me that it will launch through Steam. What am I missing here?When I installed mods on Oblivion I was required to install them to the "Oblivion" folder, how would I install a mod for Skyrim without a file folder? I would prefer a completely local install like I had with Oblivion, is that an option for PC users?

I hate their new way of doing things too. Basically the disk you bought is just the Steam install disk, and the purchase code for Skyrim within Steam.Steam will set up its own directory where it will install the game. So make sure you install Steam to whatever drive you want Skyrim on (solid state drive by far the best option if you have one). I'm on my laptop so can't double check the folder names, but basically it puts the game in something like steam/common/skyrim. That directory is basically the Skyrim equivalent of your top level Oblivion directory... there is a Data folder underneath it, and in there are all your texture and interface folders as well.Once you have the game installed, you can play it without an internet connection or being connected to Steam, though it will run in the background when you play, try to login, etc. It will also auto-deploy any Skyrim patches.You can actually get a lot of mods through Steam as well... I haven't gone that route, I've installed them myself same as in Oblivion.

 

[Chaka]

Good Lord. This game is going to be damaging to my livelihood and personal relationships.

So I found a word wall, absorbed the word and the this Volsung dude appears and starts throwing ice daggers at me, pretty much crushing me like a gnat (level 12, I think). Naturally I ran like hell. Will he be there if I decide that I want to go after his mask when I am more capable of dealing with him, or will he wander off?

 

[NCCommish]

Good Lord. This game is going to be damaging to my livelihood and personal relationships. So I found a word wall, absorbed the word and the this Volsung dude appears and starts throwing ice daggers at me, pretty much crushing me like a gnat (level 12, I think). Naturally I ran like hell. Will he be there if I decide that I want to go after his mask when I am more capable of dealing with him, or will he wander off?

He should hang there. But he is really tough. He is a level 50 Dragon Priest with a huge amount of health.

 

[Jeff Vader]

Good Lord. This game is going to be damaging to my livelihood and personal relationships. So I found a word wall, absorbed the word and the this Volsung dude appears and starts throwing ice daggers at me, pretty much crushing me like a gnat (level 12, I think). Naturally I ran like hell. Will he be there if I decide that I want to go after his mask when I am more capable of dealing with him, or will he wander off?

He should hang there. But he is really tough. He is a level 50 Dragon Priest with a huge amount of health.

This. I'm level 51 and I still summoned a Draemora and called Odahviing!Chaka, you probably don't know what that means yet, but trust me, it's like pushing the red button and unleashing global thermonuclear war.

 

[GregR]

Good Lord. This game is going to be damaging to my livelihood and personal relationships. So I found a word wall, absorbed the word and the this Volsung dude appears and starts throwing ice daggers at me, pretty much crushing me like a gnat (level 12, I think). Naturally I ran like hell. Will he be there if I decide that I want to go after his mask when I am more capable of dealing with him, or will he wander off?

Volsung's mask is really nice to have, especially when you're still figuring out how to make cash. It's the only mask I carry with me all game.

 

[Chaka]

It doesn't indicate it on the UESP Easter Eggs page but Rolff Stone-Fist in Windhelm has got to be an homage to Bill the Butcher.

 

[Hawks64]

Good Lord. This game is going to be damaging to my livelihood and personal relationships. So I found a word wall, absorbed the word and the this Volsung dude appears and starts throwing ice daggers at me, pretty much crushing me like a gnat (level 12, I think). Naturally I ran like hell. Will he be there if I decide that I want to go after his mask when I am more capable of dealing with him, or will he wander off?

Volsung's mask is really nice to have, especially when you're still figuring out how to make cash. It's the only mask I carry with me all game.

I ran into this guy accidentally like Chaka. I wasn't really high level, probably around 30ish or so, and had no issues with him at all. I did have Mjoll with me though and just used my enchanted bow from a distance.

 

[Rustoleum]

Good Lord. This game is going to be damaging to my livelihood and personal relationships. So I found a word wall, absorbed the word and the this Volsung dude appears and starts throwing ice daggers at me, pretty much crushing me like a gnat (level 12, I think). Naturally I ran like hell. Will he be there if I decide that I want to go after his mask when I am more capable of dealing with him, or will he wander off?

Volsung's mask is really nice to have, especially when you're still figuring out how to make cash. It's the only mask I carry with me all game.

I ran into this guy accidentally like Chaka. I wasn't really high level, probably around 30ish or so, and had no issues with him at all. I did have Mjoll with me though and just used my enchanted bow from a distance.

Sticking a shield in his face to disrupt the ice spikes while Lydia pounded on him did the trick for me at a low level.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Probably a Honda, but eh, I'll post it anyway:

Linky

-QG

 

[TexanFan02]

When threads collide: My link

Most of you thankfully won't get this, because you've wisely stayed away from the Zimmerman-Martin thread...

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I've put this down now for a few weeks. :sad:

I bought Witcher 2 and it's freaking amazing. So good that I'm going to lend out my Skyrim to a GB of mine later today.

 

[Chaka]

Got my second follower killed yesterday. I didn't mind losing Faendal, although I felt a little guilty because I helped hook him up with his girl but alas he never got to be with her.

Losing Jenassa sucked though. She was tough and I am pretty sure is the only follower that will truly dual wield (i.e. most other dual wielders will only use a pickaxe or forsworn sword as one of the dual weapons). But that's what she gets for stepping in front of my full unrelenting force with low hit points.

 

[Clifford]

What are some good Daedra quests? Getting bored and just clearing out caves and such. Have completed all quest lines (except for the small menial quests) other than Companions. I am saving that line for a different character.

 

[Chaka]

The first Skyrim DLC will be called Dawnguard and is expected to be released to XBOX 360 this summer with other platforms following about a month later.

 

[Hawks64]

So the Xbox Kinetic integration is pretty cool. Nice being able to do whatever shout I want without having to go in and activate it.

 

[Jeff Vader]

The first Skyrim DLC will be called Dawnguard and is expected to be released to XBOX 360 this summer with other platforms following about a month later.

Yea Betheseda, I'm sure you signing an exclusive rights contract with Microsoft has absolutely nothing to do with how bad you botched the PS3 release.

 

[Chaka]

So the Xbox Kinetic integration is pretty cool. Nice being able to do whatever shout I want without having to go in and activate it.

That sounds AWESOME! Although my neighbors would want to kill me.

 

[Hawks64]

So the Xbox Kinetic integration is pretty cool. Nice being able to do whatever shout I want without having to go in and activate it.

That sounds AWESOME! Although my neighbors would want to kill me.

I have had zero luck using the Dragon speech version of each but the regular English works great.

 

[NCCommish]

Been playing other things for a bit but got back into Skyrim this weekend. Now Thane of Markarth and bought the house there. The keep is fairly spacious and the whole constant house guard thing is cool. Had a dragon drop right down on me while out and about. I mean like snout in my face drop in with no warning. Was a regular dragon and I dispatched him quickly. Not sure where Mjoll was. And as usual got distracted so I never did actually do what I set out to do. I'm now level 31. I still intend to do this again with a new character but it is tough to put one aside once you finally get to where you can pretty much stand toe to toe with most stuff you run into.

 

[NCCommish]

Woah.

Elder Scrolls MMO.

Only if I can transfer in with my fully formed character. Not excited to be getting killed by snotty pre-teens who have less of a life than I do.

 

[Chaka]

My goodness this game is huge. I'm 50 or so hours in and the only quest I have engaged in is the Stormcloak side of the Civil War (only completed the first mission of Liberation of Skyrim).

I also did the first few of the main quest and visited the Greybeards because because a lot of people in here said to initiate those quest lines to start dragons spawning.

And I am in the process of destroying the Dark Brotherhood because some uppity ##### thought she could intimidate me into killing people against my will. Sorry ##### Joz Thunderpooper the duel weilding, racist Nord with a heart of gold doesn't like people telling him what to do so hows about I chop your ####### head off and destroy everything you spent a lifetime building instead?

Otherwise I just tool around looking for barrows to clear, help out locals (Nords mostly) A-Team style and just enjoy this incredible world. Realistically I should be able to get in maybe 4 character builds and not do too many overlapping quests.

At any rate I am just awed by how massive this game is.

 

[NCCommish]

My goodness this game is huge. I'm 50 or so hours in and the only quest I have engaged in is the Stormcloak side of the Civil War (only completed the first mission of Liberation of Skyrim).

I also did the first few of the main quest and visited the Greybeards because because a lot of people in here said to initiate those quest lines to start dragons spawning.

And I am in the process of destroying the Dark Brotherhood because some uppity ##### thought she could intimidate me into killing people against my will. Sorry ##### Joz Thunderpooper the duel weilding, racist Nord with a heart of gold doesn't like people telling him what to do so hows about I chop your ####### head off and destroy everything you spent a lifetime building instead?

Otherwise I just tool around looking for barrows to clear, help out locals (Nords mostly) A-Team style and just enjoy this incredible world. Realistically I should be able to get in maybe 4 character builds and not do too many overlapping quests.

At any rate I am just awed by how massive this game is.

Same reason I wiped them out.

 

[QuizGuy66]

And I am in the process of destroying the Dark Brotherhood because some uppity ##### thought she could intimidate me into killing people against my will. Sorry ##### Joz Thunderpooper the duel weilding, racist Nord with a heart of gold doesn't like people telling him what to do so hows about I chop your ####### head off and destroy everything you spent a lifetime building instead?

Killing the Dark Brotherhood is fun, but all too brief a quest. Hopefully you'll go back and join from an autosave FWIW, Chain Lightning is an inspired choice to the do the job. -QG

 

[Chaka]

And I am in the process of destroying the Dark Brotherhood because some uppity ##### thought she could intimidate me into killing people against my will. Sorry ##### Joz Thunderpooper the duel weilding, racist Nord with a heart of gold doesn't like people telling him what to do so hows about I chop your ####### head off and destroy everything you spent a lifetime building instead?

Killing the Dark Brotherhood is fun, but all too brief a quest. Hopefully you'll go back and join from an autosave FWIW, Chain Lightning is an inspired choice to the do the job. -QG

Not from an autosave with this character but I am certain to have another character build that joins.

 

[QuizGuy66]

And I am in the process of destroying the Dark Brotherhood because some uppity ##### thought she could intimidate me into killing people against my will. Sorry ##### Joz Thunderpooper the duel weilding, racist Nord with a heart of gold doesn't like people telling him what to do so hows about I chop your ####### head off and destroy everything you spent a lifetime building instead?

Killing the Dark Brotherhood is fun, but all too brief a quest. Hopefully you'll go back and join from an autosave FWIW, Chain Lightning is an inspired choice to the do the job. -QG

Not from an autosave with this character but I am certain to have another character build that joins.

The "Kill The Brotherhood" Quest seemed like a screw-you-for-not-playing-along mini-quest IMO.-QG

 

[Chaka]

And I am in the process of destroying the Dark Brotherhood because some uppity ##### thought she could intimidate me into killing people against my will. Sorry ##### Joz Thunderpooper the duel weilding, racist Nord with a heart of gold doesn't like people telling him what to do so hows about I chop your ####### head off and destroy everything you spent a lifetime building instead?

Killing the Dark Brotherhood is fun, but all too brief a quest. Hopefully you'll go back and join from an autosave FWIW, Chain Lightning is an inspired choice to the do the job. -QG

Not from an autosave with this character but I am certain to have another character build that joins.

The "Kill The Brotherhood" Quest seemed like a screw-you-for-not-playing-along mini-quest IMO.-QG

One of the things I really like about the size of this game, and this has been spoken of frequently in this thread, is that it really encourages you to role play rather than going for 100% completion. My current character is a no-nonsense Nord who is fighting for the Stormcloaks, A-Teaming like a mother for hapless villagers and doesn't abide cowardly assassins. He doesn't have time for much else...aside from clearing barrows to get words of power of course.This character is already level 30 and a pretty big bad ### and, like I said, I am barely through of 1/3 the only questline I am actively pursuing (Civil War). Even on master level difficulty I think trying to do everything with one character would get old in a hurry. You'd just get too powerful.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I just stumbled onto Volsung as a level 23 guy that hasn't been doing much smithing or buying anything other than arrows. Oops.

After a couple trials I managed to knock him down over the hill (near the main entrance ) with a shout and then hit him with a bunch of arrows, but then when he got badly hurt he just disappeared and I couldn't find him anywhere. Is he really gone?

 

[Chaka]

Anyone else think Galmar Stone-Fist sounds just like Cookie Monster?

 

[GregR]

I just stumbled onto Volsung as a level 23 guy that hasn't been doing much smithing or buying anything other than arrows. Oops.After a couple trials I managed to knock him down over the hill (near the main entrance ) with a shout and then hit him with a bunch of arrows, but then when he got badly hurt he just disappeared and I couldn't find him anywhere. Is he really gone?

Sounds like the game glitched. I'd just reload to your previous save.And mention that this is why in big fights I often save partway through the fight when things have been going well.

 

[Chaka]

I just stumbled onto Volsung as a level 23 guy that hasn't been doing much smithing or buying anything other than arrows. Oops.After a couple trials I managed to knock him down over the hill (near the main entrance ) with a shout and then hit him with a bunch of arrows, but then when he got badly hurt he just disappeared and I couldn't find him anywhere. Is he really gone?

Sounds like the game glitched. I'd just reload to your previous save.And mention that this is why in big fights I often save partway through the fight when things have been going well.

I ran like texasfan02 from a pit bull puppy the first time I met volsung. I think I was level 8 at the time. I just returned to take him on again at level 30 and he was back asleep in his tomb. I handled him pretty easily. If you put sufficient perks into one handed there really don't seem to be many creatures that can withstand 2-3 dual handed power attacks.

 

[GregR]

If he's the one I'm remembering right, I think my last character (sneaky archer/assassin type) I fought him at fairly low level. I found some fallen log or something with branches sticking out that I kept between us so his fireballs would hit it and explode harmlessly while I shot arrows around the obstructions. Took forever to take him down due to the level difference but it worked in the end.

 

[Chaka]

If he's the one I'm remembering right, I think my last character (sneaky archer/assassin type) I fought him at fairly low level. I found some fallen log or something with branches sticking out that I kept between us so his fireballs would hit it and explode harmlessly while I shot arrows around the obstructions. Took forever to take him down due to the level difference but it worked in the end.

Different guy. Volsung is all about ice daggers to the throat.