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He was low on health and I thought I could dual dagger him to death. It was bad tactics. I usually summon something to occupy its attention while I sneak around to stab him in the back.What made you think that standing directly in front of a dragon was a good idea in the first place?So if a dragon gets you down to 1/4 health and you're standing right in front of him, he can grab you in his jaws, toss you around, then throw you a couple hundred yards away to your death.
I think you can sort of do the same thing when in the Thieves Guild but it's just a lower fine, it isn't going to a separate contact like in Oblivion.Best thing is probably to just drop all your stolen stuff somewhere safe, go pay your bounty, and return and pick it back up.
how else are you going to jump on his back and stab him in the faceWhat made you think that standing directly in front of a dragon was a good idea in the first place?So if a dragon gets you down to 1/4 health and you're standing right in front of him, he can grab you in his jaws, toss you around, then throw you a couple hundred yards away to your death.
Got any summon scrolls? Those can come in handy.
Bumping this for others who may have missed this because it's freaking cool.'AhrnCityPahnder said:
I love the openness, but agree on the local map, in particular.If I may add my own really the only thing I am disappointed in is the general lack of creativity that went into dungeon design. Don't get me wrong, the ambiance of different ones is really well done. What I refer to is their one dimensionality. In literally every one I have been into (50+) you are channeled in one direction with no real choices involved. You get in, get herded to the boss monster, get a treasure room, and then if it is a big one you get a backdoor out. I'm hoping they get better from here on out, but I have my doubts.
I'm not entirely opposed to that, but a younger me would adamantly disagree. One of my gripes is how diverse your character can be. Maybe I'm just programed to accept classes but it appears I can be a duel wielding, backstabbing archer who uses magic when he gets caught stealing.Im the reverse on the map sucking. The local map is fine, the over world map is a jumbled mess of icons and you can only zoom out so far. On top of that, names don't show on the bigger towns/providences so you (I) don't get a good feel for specific areas.
I heard about that and will stay far away as will most who enjoy this kind of game.
Yea...we're doing the same here...just sucks though.Hopefully a patch will happen quickly.
I envy that you get to enjoy a game like this with your son. some of my fondest gaming memories was beating games with my brother as kids. We were beating The Legend Of Zelda, Phantasy Star, and stuff like that.
It is a great joy of mine.And to see how he thinks and works through things is awesome as well.I've been seriously considering building a gaming pc and getting Skyrim on PC as well and he convinced me not to do it because you'll just cheat. It's too easy to cheat on the PC and there's going to be one chest or door that I'll want to open before I have the level for it and I'll just use the cheat or something. And eventually I'll end up cheating on the entire game.I don't think I would...but he's right...it's just to easy to on the PC and it's just too tempting. It was really cool to see how he thought that through and didn't approve.
I understand where you're coming from, when I first learned about the console commands back in Morrowind I did that a bit. And of course found it ruined the game and haven't done it since.But there is SO much that you're missing if you don't get the PC version eventually. In Oblivion I'm sure I had over 200 mods loaded. Some of them are just to fix the bugs that Bethesda never did. But you can find ones that will change just about anything. Don't like the leveling system? Download a mod that changes it to how you want. For Oblivion you could speed up or slow down the level rate, add a good old XP system, or just base the stat gains straight off of improving skills (which Skyrim later adopted). Don't like the inventory interface? Replace it. Done all the missions? Download entire new regions of the map, cities and quests. Don't like how everything leveled at the same rate as you? Download Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul that completely changes the economy, the monster levels, the ability to brew beer and mead, adds a ton of new quests, like two elven factions invading and going to war with each other, a faction of slavers, spectral minions and a quest line you can go through to gain the power to wield their ghost weapons.New races to play. The ability to buy seeds to plant your own potion ingredient gardens. A lot of the "new" things they added to Fallout and Skyrim were things that users came up with as mods. Like how the plants change when you pick the ingredients, that was the Harvest Flora mod that introduced that to Bethesda games. Fan of martial arts movies? Download combat mods that have martial arts moves including the character actions for them to where you'll want to fight in 3rd person just because it looks cool. It's just amazing the things that people do with these games on the PC. The whole companion concept really got going in the mods. Ruined Tail's Tale, the story of an Argonian who grew up in a sect of assassins but now has come to question the morality of killing and joins you as a companion and over time asks your thoughts on moral issues and your responses guide how his story plays out. By far the best quest line I've ever seen in a Bethesda game.Anyway, you get the point. Enjoy it on console first to not have the temptation if you need, but it is worth playing on the PC down the road because the mods available can turn it into an entirely new game.
My favorite shout so far
yes. I couldnt remember his name but I posted about him pages back
yes. I couldnt remember his name but I posted about him pages backYeah, by far the hardest guy in the game I've faced so far.
Oh, on the main quest I got another shout 
Oh, on the main quest I got another shout
Could you explain this? Bookcase glitch? What bookcase? How does this affect level? You mean skill levels?:shuked:
Tips -1. Counter its elements. If it breathes frost, hit it with fire. If it breaths fire, hit it with frost.2. Summon something to act as a target dummy. Never go one-on-one with a dragon unless you're a tank.3. Be patient and wait for it to land. Then whirlwind sprint (or just run) to it and wail away until it takes off again. Unless you're a master marksmen (with bow or spells) you'll only hit the thing in the air every 5 or 6 shots. It's a waste of magic and/or arrows.
There was a glitch where you could pick up unlimited Books of oblivion but they patched it. I did it once because I figured it was just as simple as cutting wood for an hour. I got about 300 books. Im sure its something similar.
Don't there have to be some dead bodies around for me to raise zombies? I don't think I can summon anything out of thin air. I forgot about the sprint, that will be helpful.
Forgive my stupidity, but how do I know I have conjuration? I don't think I have magic specifically called that.
Oh, on the main quest I got another shout The shout where you have to talk to the dragon about defeating Anduin, the firebreath one. If you breath that on one of the mountain goats going back down the mountain...not only does it fry them but also picks them up and throws them far away. Pretty funny to do.
That is my fault for doing a tank. I always tend to play that role the first time through, if you just do the main quest it is pretty fun. This time I did way too many side quests and as a level 43 tank there isn't a whole lot in the game that can stand toe to toe with me at this point. Does anyone else have the
Go to the menu, choose the "magic" direction and conjuration, destruction, shouts, etc will be choices. It will tell you what you have available in each category, let you choose favorites, tell you active affects, etc.
Conjuration is just a type of magic... everyone can do it. You just need to learn a flame atronach spell and have enough magica to cast it.
You can bribe them for a few hundred gold.
I fought at least a half dozen this way before attempting to take one on myself.
I don't think this thing is going to land because the only thing to land on are the two narrow half bridges sticking out of the mountain.
I am not sure about the graphics, if they have changed I haven't really noticed. However...........the lag that was making it unplayable to me (or close to it) is gone. I was literally having 2-3 seconds of lag when I was turning a corner in town.'Matthias said:So this is working out for you guys? I've read elsewhere that installing the patch results in some graphics degradation? Confirm/Deny?I just came to post this. Even saw you on while I was downloading the patch.
One interesting thing I did note, my save file went from 11MB+ to 10MB after the patch and playing for about an hour...so more playing time but a smaller save file. Maybe I will get the lag again when it gets bigger, but fingers crossed at this point. 
I have never had this problem with the PS3 other than this game. I haven't played Fallout 3 long enough, just couldn't get into it but have heard that game had similar problems. No frost dragon encounter for me, although I did kill....hmmmmm...can't remember the type but I can say for sure it wasn't flying backwards.'Matthias said:This is consistent with what I've read elsewhere. Apparently one of the things that Bethesda did was change the game so that more things in the game reset or they reset faster. So there's fewer specific things for the game to keep track of, resulting in a smaller game file.I'm still scoping out SSDs, though. Only owned the Playstation since Saturday night and last night started hitting frame stuttering. I'm waiting on installing the latest patch until I see how bad the lag gets and if the patch creates new problems. One of the funnier ones I've read about is some type of dragon (frost, maybe?) now flies backwards. Or at least it does for some people.I am not sure about the graphics, if they have changed I haven't really noticed. However...........the lag that was making it unplayable to me (or close to it) is gone. I was literally having 2-3 seconds of lag when I was turning a corner in town.
One interesting thing I did note, my save file went from 11MB+ to 10MB after the patch and playing for about an hour...so more playing time but a smaller save file. Maybe I will get the lag again when it gets bigger, but fingers crossed at this point.
Close to the same thing: Was sitting on some rocks at night, trying to get my bearings, and down below me a dragon lands with his health bar almost empty (I'm assuming he came from another fight?). Promptly unloaded two arrows into him and BAM! Another dragon soul.I had three hired thugs come at me when I was trying to take down my first dragon on the main storyline, RIGHT AS THE DRAGON LANDED. I must have died at least 10 times before I figured out a way to run them in front of the dragon and let him take care of them
And they were hired by the family of a hunter I killed outside of Riverwood. There were no humans around, so I can only assume that a wolf or fox, etc saw me and took out a bounty on me 
I must be blind, because I haven't found any of the Shadowmarks books in the Thieves Guild, but it's cool to check the houses for marks now I'd still love to have one of the books in my inventory instead of checking it out online while I'm playing, though.
Of course depends on your skills and what kind of char you have...But I fought one on a mountain top where it had no room to land. I'm playing basically a mage/archer, don't think I've even swung a weapon at anyone yet.I pretty much was plugging him with arrows while he would hit me with his breath weapon, then soon as he was done and he'd fly around I'd heal myself with healing spells back to full and then go back to plugging him with arrows. I think I only needed 2 magicka potions before I took him down to a point he landed at the base of the mountain and I was able to finish him off at long range with the bow.Of course if you didn't put points into magicka, wearing magicka regen gear, and have an appropriate perk for half price casting of restoration/healing spells, it might not be that easy for you.Oh, and hitting it with a fiery breath shout when recharged helped too, stunned it for awhile which gave me more time to hit it.
I found 2 copies of the book in the Thieves Guild. I recall one was sitting on a barrel, though don't recall which barrel exactly.Close to the same thing: Was sitting on some rocks at night, trying to get my bearings, and down below me a dragon lands with his health bar almost empty (I'm assuming he came from another fight?). Promptly unloaded two arrows into him and BAM! Another dragon soul.I had three hired thugs come at me when I was trying to take down my first dragon on the main storyline, RIGHT AS THE DRAGON LANDED. I must have died at least 10 times before I figured out a way to run them in front of the dragon and let him take care of them
X 2 . thanks guys.
