General Malaise "vs." reading comprehension ; also some talk of skyim and the elder scrolls (1 Viewer)

[Mile High]

Well I had forgotten something I learned in Morrowind. Before you go to far from your first city at least get to level 10. I was getting killed left and right by wolves trying to do the College so I rolled backed to Riverwood and been hanging out down there for a bit. I found I was still playing like I was in Morrowind. My last player in that game was for all intents unstoppable. Pretty much maxed out across the board with the best of everything. To start dying by mudcrab and common wolf was quite a change. But been working on it and I killed my first dragon with just myself and Lydia. I was pretty happy. But now I'm stuck I think. I went to do the Windcaller quest. No problem got through everything fine, even hit Redoran's Rest along the way with no real problem. Feeling good at this point. But Lydia didn't stay put as I asked her to and now she is stuck in one of the fire traps and I can't get her out. I may have to go back to an earlier save which will suck. Saving is the thing I do the worst. I am going to end up redoing a lot if I can't get her out some other way.

Did you try fast travel?

 

[NCCommish]

Well I had forgotten something I learned in Morrowind. Before you go to far from your first city at least get to level 10. I was getting killed left and right by wolves trying to do the College so I rolled backed to Riverwood and been hanging out down there for a bit. I found I was still playing like I was in Morrowind. My last player in that game was for all intents unstoppable. Pretty much maxed out across the board with the best of everything. To start dying by mudcrab and common wolf was quite a change. But been working on it and I killed my first dragon with just myself and Lydia. I was pretty happy. But now I'm stuck I think. I went to do the Windcaller quest. No problem got through everything fine, even hit Redoran's Rest along the way with no real problem. Feeling good at this point. But Lydia didn't stay put as I asked her to and now she is stuck in one of the fire traps and I can't get her out. I may have to go back to an earlier save which will suck. Saving is the thing I do the worst. I am going to end up redoing a lot if I can't get her out some other way.

Did you try fast travel?

Not yet. It got late and I am still killing a couple of things in the dungeon. But that was what I was hoping would do it. I am going to give it a try.

 

[Ignoramus]

But now I'm stuck I think. I went to do the Windcaller quest. No problem got through everything fine, even hit Redoran's Rest along the way with no real problem. Feeling good at this point. But Lydia didn't stay put as I asked her to and now she is stuck in one of the fire traps and I can't get her out. I may have to go back to an earlier save which will suck. Saving is the thing I do the worst. I am going to end up redoing a lot if I can't get her out some other way.

if you told her to wait, after a couple of days you should get a message stating that she got tired of waiting for you and went home. Not sure exactly how long that takes though.

 

[NCCommish]

But now I'm stuck I think. I went to do the Windcaller quest. No problem got through everything fine, even hit Redoran's Rest along the way with no real problem. Feeling good at this point. But Lydia didn't stay put as I asked her to and now she is stuck in one of the fire traps and I can't get her out. I may have to go back to an earlier save which will suck. Saving is the thing I do the worst. I am going to end up redoing a lot if I can't get her out some other way.

if you told her to wait, after a couple of days you should get a message stating that she got tired of waiting for you and went home. Not sure exactly how long that takes though.

Yeah I was wondering if eventually she'd wander out. But she is stuck in the trap and won't respond to talk or anything so I'm not sure. I read around and it seems the traps can permanently kill a character.

 

[TxBuckeye]

One more quick question. I am level 26, stealth bow/sniper type character. All of my weapons/armor are enchanted (mostly by me), and I haven't taken any blacksmithing perks at all, so can't upgrade them even though I have Moonstone and other ores. Is it worth it to me to waste the two perks to get to where I can upgrade armor that already has enchantments? Or, as someone that only wears light armor and avoids melee battle as much as possible, is it better to just write it off and make sure I upgrade any armor I want to use BEFORE I enchant it? That's what I just did with my shield. Had an elven shield I had made fine and then enchanted. So, I just found another, made it Superior with Moonstone, then enchanted it again. So I'm just not sure this late in my character development if it is going to be worth it to blow two perks just to upgrade things I am already wearing (which is all pretty much elven)?

p.s. I don't care about the monetary benefit. Money already really isn't an issue, and blacksmithing and enchanting for profit is dreadfully boring to me.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

PS3 player here.

As soon as I hit level 20 with my second character, the freezing began happening.

Today it was during a conversation. Not a load screen. Not while *waiting*. No. During a ### #### conversation with a wandering bard.

This with my level 20 guy. Forget my primary char who has beaten the main story and is level 44.

Such a great game, such a terrible game. I want to punch the entire Betheseda development team in the collective face.

 

[Mile High]

One more quick question. I am level 26, stealth bow/sniper type character. All of my weapons/armor are enchanted (mostly by me), and I haven't taken any blacksmithing perks at all, so can't upgrade them even though I have Moonstone and other ores. Is it worth it to me to waste the two perks to get to where I can upgrade armor that already has enchantments? Or, as someone that only wears light armor and avoids melee battle as much as possible, is it better to just write it off and make sure I upgrade any armor I want to use BEFORE I enchant it? That's what I just did with my shield. Had an elven shield I had made fine and then enchanted. So, I just found another, made it Superior with Moonstone, then enchanted it again. So I'm just not sure this late in my character development if it is going to be worth it to blow two perks just to upgrade things I am already wearing (which is all pretty much elven)?p.s. I don't care about the monetary benefit. Money already really isn't an issue, and blacksmithing and enchanting for profit is dreadfully boring to me.

Depends on where else you'd want to put those perks but I would just wait until you find new stuff, improve it, and then re-enchant it. Really the only reason to pick up that perk would be if you had some unique enchanted item that was ballz and you wanted to use it and improve it. But even then, you gotta wonder if the extra 2-3 points of damage or armor are worth 2 perk points. Probably, the answer would be no.

I'm pretty much in the same position. I'm thinking it's better to perk to kill faster

 

[IvanKaramazov]

One more quick question. I am level 26, stealth bow/sniper type character. All of my weapons/armor are enchanted (mostly by me), and I haven't taken any blacksmithing perks at all, so can't upgrade them even though I have Moonstone and other ores. Is it worth it to me to waste the two perks to get to where I can upgrade armor that already has enchantments? Or, as someone that only wears light armor and avoids melee battle as much as possible, is it better to just write it off and make sure I upgrade any armor I want to use BEFORE I enchant it? That's what I just did with my shield. Had an elven shield I had made fine and then enchanted. So, I just found another, made it Superior with Moonstone, then enchanted it again. So I'm just not sure this late in my character development if it is going to be worth it to blow two perks just to upgrade things I am already wearing (which is all pretty much elven)?p.s. I don't care about the monetary benefit. Money already really isn't an issue, and blacksmithing and enchanting for profit is dreadfully boring to me.

Depends on where else you'd want to put those perks but I would just wait until you find new stuff, improve it, and then re-enchant it. Really the only reason to pick up that perk would be if you had some unique enchanted item that was ballz and you wanted to use it and improve it. But even then, you gotta wonder if the extra 2-3 points of damage or armor are worth 2 perk points. Probably, the answer would be no.

I'm pretty much in the same position. I'm thinking it's better to perk to kill faster

I wouldn't necessarily recommend that perk, but playing devil's advocate for a moment, by the time you get much above level 30-35, you've already gotten most of the really essential perks for playing style. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with "blowing" a few perk points on something that looks fairly minor if that's the direction you want to go at higher levels. Let's be honest. If you're playing the sneak/bow guy that many of us are playing, the only perk trees that really matter are Sneak and Archery. And some of the archery perks are completely worthless (like the last few perks on the right hand side of the tree). Once you finish those off, there's no compelling reason NOT to put points into smithing or enchanting or whatever if that's what you feel like doing.

 

[NCCommish]

Well I had forgotten something I learned in Morrowind. Before you go to far from your first city at least get to level 10. I was getting killed left and right by wolves trying to do the College so I rolled backed to Riverwood and been hanging out down there for a bit. I found I was still playing like I was in Morrowind. My last player in that game was for all intents unstoppable. Pretty much maxed out across the board with the best of everything. To start dying by mudcrab and common wolf was quite a change. But been working on it and I killed my first dragon with just myself and Lydia. I was pretty happy. But now I'm stuck I think. I went to do the Windcaller quest. No problem got through everything fine, even hit Redoran's Rest along the way with no real problem. Feeling good at this point. But Lydia didn't stay put as I asked her to and now she is stuck in one of the fire traps and I can't get her out. I may have to go back to an earlier save which will suck. Saving is the thing I do the worst. I am going to end up redoing a lot if I can't get her out some other way.

One thing that's much, much better in Skyrim than in past Elder Scrolls games is that you don't have to worry even a fraction as much about leveling and power wrt your current level. The leveling system is really something that you can completely ignore. You may get a useless bump to level if you pick up a Skill Book for 2-handed weapons and you're a mage or whatever, but with the way it work that bump isn't really significant. And everything seems pretty well scaled to power ratings of the right level. I'm up to L33 or so and have never trained or grinded any skill and never really had a severe problem with things. If anything, it's just that things are still a little bit too easy. The people who seem to really have regrets in the game are those who grinded out a particular skill such as enchanting or smithing and realized a little bit later that they had made the game way too easy for themselves.So just a word of advice as you get started: just ignore everything about levels and just do the stuff when you want to do it. And if you find somewhere that they really beat the snot out of you, just run away and try it again another day.

Yeah I pretty much played Morrowind that way. I just wasn't as fastidious with my leveling as I should have been but in the end I was still very capable so it worked out. I have found in these games that if you hang around the first town pickings are usually a little easier and you get a chance to work the kinks out a bit. I know Saturday morning Lydia and I would have been roasted by a dragon, we couldn't stop two wolves consistently. But by Sunday there we were taking one down. So not so much about the level I guess. I took off for the Windcaller quest at almost level 9. More about getting your act together a bit. Learning what works. In this case figuring out I wasn't going to be able to ignore bow work the way I did in Morrowind.

 

[doowain]

Got this as a Christmas gift. Not typically my cup of tea. I'm not a big fan of games that have so many hidden wrinkles. I do enjoy the thievery though. Probably why my character's name is "Honey Badger". Every time I murder and ransack someone, I yell "HONEY BADGER TAKES WHAT HE WANTS. HONEY BADGER DON'T CARE!".

I'm very intimidated by everything you guys post in here. To the point that it makes me want to stop playing. Seems like SO much work.

 

[NCCommish]

Got this as a Christmas gift. Not typically my cup of tea. I'm not a big fan of games that have so many hidden wrinkles. I do enjoy the thievery though. Probably why my character's name is "Honey Badger". Every time I murder and ransack someone, I yell "HONEY BADGER TAKES WHAT HE WANTS. HONEY BADGER DON'T CARE!".

I'm very intimidated by everything you guys post in here. To the point that it makes me want to stop playing. Seems like SO much work.

Skyrim is a lot easier in many ways than the earlier games in the series. You could really ruin a character in Morrowind but it seems like you have much more flexibility now. You can still put points into the wrong things but it seems much less of a problem now. I have just been playing along and let leveling take care of itself.

 

[jwb]

Got this as a Christmas gift. Not typically my cup of tea. I'm not a big fan of games that have so many hidden wrinkles. I do enjoy the thievery though. Probably why my character's name is "Honey Badger". Every time I murder and ransack someone, I yell "HONEY BADGER TAKES WHAT HE WANTS. HONEY BADGER DON'T CARE!".I'm very intimidated by everything you guys post in here. To the point that it makes me want to stop playing. Seems like SO much work.

Just play, and put the perks into the things you like doing.That's it, really.

 

[Hawks64]

Any advice on how to level my Redguard? I am looking to get good at archery and enchanting one handed weapons so I can kick some serious ### up close or from a far. I just started so if Redguard isn't the best character I can easily restart. Also, should I pick up everything I come across initially? I literally have about 15 min in to the game, had to stop once the kids came downstairs and haven't had a chance to get back into it.

 

[Kirby]

Had a thief come up to me on a bridge while three imperial soldiers and a prisoner are walking by. Those ### holes just watched while I fought him off... So I decided the prisoner should be a free man.

 

[Ignoramus]

Also, should I pick up everything I come across initially?

I pay more attention to the gold-to-weight ratio than the item's value. The fact that stores are limited in their gold and I'm limited in my carry weight means picking up everything and schlepping it from market to market becomes more work than fun. Starting off I would only pick something up if it was 10:1 or better... now I'm up to 20:1.

 

[Hawks64]

Thanks for the tips. Have never played a RPG like this before, and the fact that I can have a 3rd person view is awesome. Can't wait to fire it up again tonight.

 

[-arcK-]

One more quick question. I am level 26, stealth bow/sniper type character. All of my weapons/armor are enchanted (mostly by me), and I haven't taken any blacksmithing perks at all, so can't upgrade them even though I have Moonstone and other ores. Is it worth it to me to waste the two perks to get to where I can upgrade armor that already has enchantments? Or, as someone that only wears light armor and avoids melee battle as much as possible, is it better to just write it off and make sure I upgrade any armor I want to use BEFORE I enchant it? That's what I just did with my shield. Had an elven shield I had made fine and then enchanted. So, I just found another, made it Superior with Moonstone, then enchanted it again. So I'm just not sure this late in my character development if it is going to be worth it to blow two perks just to upgrade things I am already wearing (which is all pretty much elven)?p.s. I don't care about the monetary benefit. Money already really isn't an issue, and blacksmithing and enchanting for profit is dreadfully boring to me.

Depends on where else you'd want to put those perks but I would just wait until you find new stuff, improve it, and then re-enchant it. Really the only reason to pick up that perk would be if you had some unique enchanted item that was ballz and you wanted to use it and improve it. But even then, you gotta wonder if the extra 2-3 points of damage or armor are worth 2 perk points. Probably, the answer would be no.

I'm pretty much in the same position. I'm thinking it's better to perk to kill faster

I wouldn't necessarily recommend that perk, but playing devil's advocate for a moment, by the time you get much above level 30-35, you've already gotten most of the really essential perks for playing style. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with "blowing" a few perk points on something that looks fairly minor if that's the direction you want to go at higher levels. Let's be honest. If you're playing the sneak/bow guy that many of us are playing, the only perk trees that really matter are Sneak and Archery. And some of the archery perks are completely worthless (like the last few perks on the right hand side of the tree). Once you finish those off, there's no compelling reason NOT to put points into smithing or enchanting or whatever if that's what you feel like doing.

Now at level 58, I've got most of the perks I want, save for a few that require skills to be 100 that I still have somewhere in the 90s... I resisted buying that one smithing perk that allows you to improve enchanted items until yesterday, as I just got the nightingale armor. That armor looks so awesome I just had to improve it, so I wasted the perk. I don't regret it at all, since I get to sneak around looking like a jedi ninja!Regarding the PS3 problems everyone's been discussing, I must be incredibly lucky. I've installed every patch as they've come out, and have literally had only one real problem: At level 57, my ability to stand/sneak broke. My character was stuck in the sneak position, but the screen cursor showed he was standing. Clicking the button did nothing. Neither did finishing a quest or fast traveling. Good thing I have a lot of saves, so I was able to go back and only lost about 2-3 hours. Other than that, I've experienced no freezing. And I can count on one hand the amount of times I've encountered some stuttering in towns. I have noticed the occasional loading screen that seems to take a little too long, but overall it's been a good ride so far...

 

[AcerFC]

What has been the consensus on how this game plays after the main quest is done. I decided to finish the main quest before I do anything else in the game (thieves, brotherhood). But I don't want it to lose anything in playing value if I do that. Any thoughts? I'm going to do my best to finish the main quest this week since I'm off.

Spoiler

I just got the elder scroll from blackreach

 

[TxBuckeye]

Regarding the PS3 problems everyone's been discussing, I must be incredibly lucky. I've installed every patch as they've come out, and have literally had only one real problem: At level 57, my ability to stand/sneak broke. My character was stuck in the sneak position, but the screen cursor showed he was standing. Clicking the button did nothing. Neither did finishing a quest or fast traveling. Good thing I have a lot of saves, so I was able to go back and only lost about 2-3 hours. Other than that, I've experienced no freezing. And I can count on one hand the amount of times I've encountered some stuttering in towns. I have noticed the occasional loading screen that seems to take a little too long, but overall it's been a good ride so far...

I've had two or three hard freezes, but that has been it. Well, maybe. I did notice in a small session yesterday that Alchemy was messing up. I would go to create a Resist Fire potion or a Restore Health or Magicka or something and, when I hit create, it would create a Fortify Two Handed potion! Understand, I am a stealth bow kind of guy, so I have never used a two handed weapon and certainly never intentionally created a Fortify Two Handed potion. At first, I thought maybe I had come across a cursed alcemy station or something as it was in a keep. But later, it happened at another station. So now I'm not to sure.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

What has been the consensus on how this game plays after the main quest is done.

The "main" quest is really no different from any of the other quest lines -- it's just a little longer and more epic in scale (since you're saving the world and all that). After finishing the main quest, you can go right back to Riften, join the thieves guild, and pick up from there as if nothing ever happened. The mages college is still there, merchants are all still in the same spot, guards are still waiting to regale you with tales about the time they took an arrow in the knee, etc. As far as I can tell, the only quest line that has a serious effect on the way the world works is the civil war line. Some cities and towns will become uninhabited and ruined for a while until you advance that story further along.

 

[hotdogcollars]

Would you guys recommend this for someone who has maybe 5-10 hours per week to play? I used to love RPGs way (WAY) back in the day. But i'm worried these new ones are just too complex and time consuming for someone who can't devote lots of hours to it.

Just got my Xbox360 and i'm so tempted to pick this up today. I used to get hooked on these kinds of games and lose days or weeks to them.

 

[TxBuckeye]

There are some potion combinations that will give you multiple effects. And I think the potion is named after whatever effect is the most valuable. I've definitely combined a couple of ingredients for some Restore potion and gotten the Fortify Two-Handed. I think if you look at the potion effects, the Restore part will still be there.

Wow, did not know that. Not convenient at all. I wonder how many times I may have created a health potion, only to sell off that potion because my character never uses two handed weapons and that is what it was labeled as. I tend to just autosell any potion that affects two handed, or heavy armor, things like that I don't use. May be why I find myself short of healing potions so often when it seems I shouldn't be.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Would you guys recommend this for someone who has maybe 5-10 hours per week to play? I used to love RPGs way (WAY) back in the day. But i'm worried these new ones are just too complex and time consuming for someone who can't devote lots of hours to it.Just got my Xbox360 and i'm so tempted to pick this up today. I used to get hooked on these kinds of games and lose days or weeks to them.

I would. I'm like you, limited gaming hours. This is the type of game you can pick up and play an hour, save, and then pick it up again later, no worries. In fact, the few times I have had an extended play sessions, I have actually found myself getting a little bored as I got to wrapped around the axle trying to get quests off my journal. I almost got in this mode where it seemed a chore trying to get everything done. I think short stints may actually keep it entertaining longer than if you were sitting in front of it three or four hours a day. You'll have time to knock out a dungeon dive (maybe), sell off the loot, then save. It will leave you wanting more.

 

[hotdogcollars]

Would you guys recommend this for someone who has maybe 5-10 hours per week to play? I used to love RPGs way (WAY) back in the day. But i'm worried these new ones are just too complex and time consuming for someone who can't devote lots of hours to it.Just got my Xbox360 and i'm so tempted to pick this up today. I used to get hooked on these kinds of games and lose days or weeks to them.

I would. I'm like you, limited gaming hours. This is the type of game you can pick up and play an hour, save, and then pick it up again later, no worries. In fact, the few times I have had an extended play sessions, I have actually found myself getting a little bored as I got to wrapped around the axle trying to get quests off my journal. I almost got in this mode where it seemed a chore trying to get everything done. I think short stints may actually keep it entertaining longer than if you were sitting in front of it three or four hours a day. You'll have time to knock out a dungeon dive (maybe), sell off the loot, then save. It will leave you wanting more.

Thanks, thats the exact reason i gave these things up many years ago...turned into more work than fun. But this one is getting such good reviews i may have to dive back in.

 

[Jason Wood]

Haven't felt connected to the "best" games in awhile, as they seemed overly complicated for my liking, particularly as the time constraints of real life (marriage, kids, work) took over. I had tried games like Fallout and Gears of War and Call of Duty, and they just weren't for me. I could recognize they were wonderful achievements, but it just didn't strike me as fun. The gameplay seemed just way too difficult, and non-stop. No time to enjoy the process.

So I thought Skyrim would be a non starter for me, too. But buddies kept insisting a try it, knowing that I used to like older school RPGs. So I tried it. And it's absolutely mind boggling in its entertainment value. I've loved every second of the experience, and it's the first time in 5+ years I can remember wanting to play a video game with my free time.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Thanks, thats the exact reason i gave these things up many years ago...turned into more work than fun. But this one is getting such good reviews i may have to dive back in.

Simple solution HDC. Play the game the way you want to play it. Ignore the posts about how to make daggers for hours on end to scale your blacksmithing, or chopping wood for entire sessions to build your coffers. Don't worry about stats and leveling. Just let your character build "naturally," the way the developers intended, and pick the perks that seem fun to you. I think if you approach it that way (and I think it is MUCH easier to approach it that way when you only play in short bursts) that you will find you enjoy this game immensely.PSA: I'm not saying doing those other things is wrong. Just that they sound as if they can get tedious and/or monotoneous in an attempt to build the perfect uber character.

 

[Drifter]

Thanks, thats the exact reason i gave these things up many years ago...turned into more work than fun. But this one is getting such good reviews i may have to dive back in.

Simple solution HDC. Play the game the way you want to play it. Ignore the posts about how to make daggers for hours on end to scale your blacksmithing, or chopping wood for entire sessions to build your coffers. Don't worry about stats and leveling. Just let your character build "naturally," the way the developers intended, and pick the perks that seem fun to you. I think if you approach it that way (and I think it is MUCH easier to approach it that way when you only play in short bursts) that you will find you enjoy this game immensely.PSA: I'm not saying doing those other things is wrong. Just that they sound as if they can get tedious and/or monotoneous in an attempt to build the perfect uber character.

Building up enchanting is definitely tedious. Smithing wasn't. Basically, any time I saw a blacksmith, I'd buy all his iron, make a bunch of daggers and move on. Took just a minute or two. By the time I was around level 30 or 35, it was at 100.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Building up enchanting is definitely tedious. Smithing wasn't. Basically, any time I saw a blacksmith, I'd buy all his iron, make a bunch of daggers and move on. Took just a minute or two. By the time I was around level 30 or 35, it was at 100.

That's fine, substitute whatever skill is appropriate. My point to the poster was, unless you are worried about trying to get certain skills up to 100% by doing those things that would make the game tedious and boring, it won't be! I don't think anyone will find the game boring or overwhelming unless they are working towards a very specific skillset that they feel they really want/need to have. Otherwise, it is very open ended and you can pretty much do whatever you feel like doing, and however you feel like doing it.

 

[GregR]

One more quick question. I am level 26, stealth bow/sniper type character. All of my weapons/armor are enchanted (mostly by me), and I haven't taken any blacksmithing perks at all, so can't upgrade them even though I have Moonstone and other ores. Is it worth it to me to waste the two perks to get to where I can upgrade armor that already has enchantments? Or, as someone that only wears light armor and avoids melee battle as much as possible, is it better to just write it off and make sure I upgrade any armor I want to use BEFORE I enchant it? That's what I just did with my shield. Had an elven shield I had made fine and then enchanted. So, I just found another, made it Superior with Moonstone, then enchanted it again. So I'm just not sure this late in my character development if it is going to be worth it to blow two perks just to upgrade things I am already wearing (which is all pretty much elven)?p.s. I don't care about the monetary benefit. Money already really isn't an issue, and blacksmithing and enchanting for profit is dreadfully boring to me.

I think before your character is done, you will find it is worthwhile to max out the first Smithing perk to +100%, pick up the smith magic weapons, and also take at least one side of the tree all the way up to Dragon armor.Reason being is the bonuses from smithing are so much bigger when you have both the perk for that type (doubling your improvement) and also have Smithing at +100% to triple it. I think it's advantageous if you can stick to just one side of the perk tree, such as I went up the heavy armor side and equip my followers with heavy armor and daedric weapons so everything has the perk bonus.One other thing which I didn't realize until end of last week. You can smith something more than once. If you improve an item with say a 20 smithing, then increase it to 40 and pick up a perk, you can improve the already-smithed item up to the higher level of bonuses by just smithing it again. If you are enchanting your own items, then you obviously would need the perk to smith magic items to do that.

 

[The Gator]

At that point you'll be summoning daemon lords for melee combat or storm atronochs for ranged. Very fun.

Being a mage is getting to be fun. After killing the first dragon at the watchtower I moved onto the college quest. Best one i've done yet, imo.

Spoiler

When I had to find/fight Morokei I was not even getting close. He just wasn't dying at all. Summon a flame Atronach....he turned it against me After about 10 deaths I went into my scrolls and used a storm atronach. That thing destroyed him. I laughed...and then was pissed I didn't think about it sooner. Staring to summon more often and conjuring up weapons, too. Oh and being arch mage is teats

 

[dnurk]

At that point you'll be summoning daemon lords for melee combat or storm atronochs for ranged. Very fun.

Being a mage is getting to be fun. After killing the first dragon at the watchtower I moved onto the college quest. Best one i've done yet, imo.

Spoiler

When I had to find/fight Morokei I was not even getting close. He just wasn't dying at all. Summon a flame Atronach....he turned it against me After about 10 deaths I went into my scrolls and used a storm atronach. That thing destroyed him. I laughed...and then was pissed I didn't think about it sooner. Staring to summon more often and conjuring up weapons, too. Oh and being arch mage is teats

Very cool. It does become so much fun watching your minions wreak havoc. Storm atronochs and the spark damage spells you can get hammer mages. Sparks sap their magical and health. If you keep summoning all the time ( I had one up no matter where I was) your conjuration goes up pretty quickly.

 

[Drifter]

Just saw a thing where there's a Giant's Club that you can have your companions pick up and wield. You can't take possession of it or enchant it or anything but it's pretty funny watching your companion smash people with a giant club.

 

[hotdogcollars]

Thanks, thats the exact reason i gave these things up many years ago...turned into more work than fun. But this one is getting such good reviews i may have to dive back in.

Simple solution HDC. Play the game the way you want to play it. Ignore the posts about how to make daggers for hours on end to scale your blacksmithing, or chopping wood for entire sessions to build your coffers. Don't worry about stats and leveling. Just let your character build "naturally," the way the developers intended, and pick the perks that seem fun to you. I think if you approach it that way (and I think it is MUCH easier to approach it that way when you only play in short bursts) that you will find you enjoy this game immensely.PSA: I'm not saying doing those other things is wrong. Just that they sound as if they can get tedious and/or monotoneous in an attempt to build the perfect uber character.

Yeah, i think the draw of this game is too much and i'm going to have to give it a shot. I just know how i am, or at least used to be, with these types of games. Thx for all the feedback

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Had a thief come up to me on a bridge while three imperial soldiers and a prisoner are walking by. Those ### holes just watched while I fought him off... So I decided the prisoner should be a free man.

Random amusing encounters like this are the best part of the game, IMO.I was just fighting a dragonpriest. It was an epic battle of me and Odahviing! vs. the dragonpriest. We finally finish him off. I grab the loot and Odahviing! flies off. However, as I'm strolling away I come upon 3 orcs dressed in imperial armor. They claim they're soldiers and want 100 gold to pass by. I'm a level 44 Nightingale, Speaker, Slayer of Alduin who can one-shoot anything with his bow. But as I get ready to gun down these fools, I discover I'm out of arrows.Crap.As I'm hacking away with swords (not my strength), Odahviing! reappears and starts blasting the orcs with fire. Yippie! He must have been in the area still!But, as Odahviing! is making orc BBQ, a frost dragon appears and starts freezing Odahviing!Chaos ensues. We have:1. Me & Odahviing!2. Frost dragon3. What's left of the orcsThen, as the last of the orcs drops and we're focusing on the frost dragon, a group of effing necromancers appears from lord knows where and starts chucking ice missiles at everyone. What a total cluster!@#$

 

[hotdogcollars]

just ordered, will have it Thursday. Now to tell my wife that she possibly won't be seeing me for the next few days/weeks/months

 

[shadyridr]

Got this as a Christmas gift. Not typically my cup of tea. I'm not a big fan of games that have so many hidden wrinkles. I do enjoy the thievery though. Probably why my character's name is "Honey Badger". Every time I murder and ransack someone, I yell "HONEY BADGER TAKES WHAT HE WANTS. HONEY BADGER DON'T CARE!".I'm very intimidated by everything you guys post in here. To the point that it makes me want to stop playing. Seems like SO much work.

Just play, and put the perks into the things you like doing.That's it, really.

this is what i do. i like magic and big weapons so i just build up destruction, restoration, and two handed trees and have fun.

 

[joetrow]

Managed to fall through the map in Whiterun by jumping on a bowl near the smelter. After tinkering a little underneath the city I managed to get outside of Whiterun. All the castles and buildings and such would disappear when I got close, and there was no animals or people. I traveled east past where the game normally says "you can't go that way" because I had heard Morrowind was built into the Skyrim game. There was lots of land mass but my character traveled inside of the land instead of being able to walk on it, so I wasn't able to see if they put any design or building into the land mass that might be Morrowind. When I'd bring up the mini-map it still said I was in Whiterun, so I might try this again if I manage to fall through the map outside of a city.

 

[hooter311]

Managed to fall through the map in Whiterun by jumping on a bowl near the smelter. After tinkering a little underneath the city I managed to get outside of Whiterun. All the castles and buildings and such would disappear when I got close, and there was no animals or people. I traveled east past where the game normally says "you can't go that way" because I had heard Morrowind was built into the Skyrim game. There was lots of land mass but my character traveled inside of the land instead of being able to walk on it, so I wasn't able to see if they put any design or building into the land mass that might be Morrowind. When I'd bring up the mini-map it still said I was in Whiterun, so I might try this again if I manage to fall through the map outside of a city.

Do what now?

 

[hooter311]

So has anyone maxed their character yet without glitching? I'm on level 60, and have an incredible ways to go. I have a 100 in Enchanting, Alchemy, Smithing, and 2 handed weapon. I'm 90+ in Illusion, Archery, Sneak, and Heavy Armor after about 130 hours of gameplay. This game would be a very useful tool for diagnosing psychiatric disorders.

 

[joetrow]

Managed to fall through the map in Whiterun by jumping on a bowl near the smelter. After tinkering a little underneath the city I managed to get outside of Whiterun. All the castles and buildings and such would disappear when I got close, and there was no animals or people. I traveled east past where the game normally says "you can't go that way" because I had heard Morrowind was built into the Skyrim game. There was lots of land mass but my character traveled inside of the land instead of being able to walk on it, so I wasn't able to see if they put any design or building into the land mass that might be Morrowind. When I'd bring up the mini-map it still said I was in Whiterun, so I might try this again if I manage to fall through the map outside of a city.

Do what now?

Find Morrowind. If they put any detail into an area outside of the normal map I'd think it'd be because it will be a DLC.

 

[The Gator]

Was talking with my brother today about the worst time to run into a dragon and pretty sure I had the worst experience.

During the quest Diplomatic Immunity, right after i gave all my items to the guy in Solitude. I was strolling down to get my party clothes wearing nothing but my loin cloth and sure enough....DRAGON. This was with my archer character so my magic was crap. Total devastation....ended up reloading the previous save and waiting for 24hrs before heading down.

 

[thecatch]

Was talking with my brother today about the worst time to run into a dragon and pretty sure I had the worst experience.

During the quest Diplomatic Immunity, right after i gave all my items to the guy in Solitude. I was strolling down to get my party clothes wearing nothing but my loin cloth and sure enough....DRAGON. This was with my archer character so my magic was crap. Total devastation....ended up reloading the previous save and waiting for 24hrs before heading down.

I think that encounter is by design. Same thing happened to me.

 

[AcerFC]

I just wasted an hour retracing my steps going back to pick something up that I missed the first time. That was fun.

ETA: say down for a session at 5:30. Forgot to eat dinner.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Managed to fall through the map in Whiterun by jumping on a bowl near the smelter. After tinkering a little underneath the city I managed to get outside of Whiterun. All the castles and buildings and such would disappear when I got close, and there was no animals or people. I traveled east past where the game normally says "you can't go that way" because I had heard Morrowind was built into the Skyrim game. There was lots of land mass but my character traveled inside of the land instead of being able to walk on it, so I wasn't able to see if they put any design or building into the land mass that might be Morrowind. When I'd bring up the mini-map it still said I was in Whiterun, so I might try this again if I manage to fall through the map outside of a city.

Do what now?

Find Morrowind. If they put any detail into an area outside of the normal map I'd think it'd be because it will be a DLC.

If you have the patience, try heading south for Cyridil. Word is if you go to south of Riften somewhere you can see the White Tower in the Imperial City.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I just wasted an hour retracing my steps going back to pick something up that I missed the first time. That was fun.

ETA: say down for a session at 5:30. Forgot to eat dinner.

My mother is in town occupying CC Jr., so I had the TV to myself all day. It was practically pornographic.

 

[NewlyRetired]

So has anyone maxed their character yet without glitching? I'm on level 60, and have an incredible ways to go. I have a 100 in Enchanting, Alchemy, Smithing, and 2 handed weapon. I'm 90+ in Illusion, Archery, Sneak, and Heavy Armor after about 130 hours of gameplay. This game would be a very useful tool for diagnosing psychiatric disorders.

I thought there was no cap max? It was mentioned numerous times earlier in the thread. The developers said once you get to a certain level the time needed to get from one level to another will dramatically increase but you can still level supposedly. Did this change?

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

This game would be a very useful tool for diagnosing psychiatric disorders.

Completed the canibalism quest tonight. Lured that jerk in there, killed him, ate him, then all the freaks welcomed me, then I yelled at them for being freaks who eat people, so I killed them all. Then I ate them all. Mrs ACP just stood up and shook her head and walked out of the room.

 

[simmonjm]

So has anyone maxed their character yet without glitching? I'm on level 60, and have an incredible ways to go. I have a 100 in Enchanting, Alchemy, Smithing, and 2 handed weapon. I'm 90+ in Illusion, Archery, Sneak, and Heavy Armor after about 130 hours of gameplay. This game would be a very useful tool for diagnosing psychiatric disorders.

I thought there was no cap max? It was mentioned numerous times earlier in the thread. The developers said once you get to a certain level the time needed to get from one level to another will dramatically increase but you can still level supposedly. Did this change?

From what I understand level 81 is the max. Ive logged in roughly 100 hours and am only level 54 cant imagine hitting 75 or higher. Even buying the maximum 5 skill boosts from trainers per level has little effect on level ups now.

 

[The Gator]

Was talking with my brother today about the worst time to run into a dragon and pretty sure I had the worst experience.

During the quest Diplomatic Immunity, right after i gave all my items to the guy in Solitude. I was strolling down to get my party clothes wearing nothing but my loin cloth and sure enough....DRAGON. This was with my archer character so my magic was crap. Total devastation....ended up reloading the previous save and waiting for 24hrs before heading down.

I think that encounter is by design. Same thing happened to me.

My son said it didn't happen to him

 

[thecatch]

Was talking with my brother today about the worst time to run into a dragon and pretty sure I had the worst experience.

During the quest Diplomatic Immunity, right after i gave all my items to the guy in Solitude. I was strolling down to get my party clothes wearing nothing but my loin cloth and sure enough....DRAGON. This was with my archer character so my magic was crap. Total devastation....ended up reloading the previous save and waiting for 24hrs before heading down.

I think that encounter is by design. Same thing happened to me.

My son said it didn't happen to him

Weird. I reloaded a few earlier saves to try to avoid the encounter, but he always showed up. It seems too coincidental that as soon as you give your gear to someone, a dragon shows up. Took me like 5 times to kill him - hadn't realized how much I relied on my heavy armor before that.