Getcha passports ready - the middle-aged dummies are going to the British Isles! Top 31 song countdown. (3 Viewers)

[KarmaPolice]

If a band uses a drum machine, does it matter where the machine was manufactured?

YES!

 

[Uruk-Hai]

If a band uses a drum machine, does it matter where the machine was manufactured?

Now I KNOW I'm out

I'm exhausted just reading the vetting posts.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I might need an actual list of eligibles here.

I’ll start:
Beatles

 

[Doug B]

Hakim and Williams are two fantastic drummers but very different in style. I love Williams' little drum fills with Rockpile.

Page 7 of the CD booklet lists both drummers as members of the group.

Not a bad deal for Hakim for 48 hours of work. Never had to go on tour or be on hand for another DS studio album. But, yes, the liner notes trump all.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

In case anyone comes across Pete de Freitas from Echo and the Bunnymen and worries because he was born in Trinidad and Tobago, please note they are still eligible because he was born to English parents. Echo is on the A-OK list. Also, his Wiki page contains one of my favorite lines ever: "He joined the Bunnymen in 1979, replacing a drum machine."

I believe the drum machine was the “Echo” in “Echo and the Bunnymen.”

 

[Doug B]

I envision a lot of controversy when artists from the 1770s are selected.

Nigel Nelson - vocals
Colin Cornwallis - fife
"Uncle" Samuel Adams - drum

 

[cosjobs]

I'll play if it's not too late

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I'll play if it's not too late

Only if you let the Stoner Pups have at least one pick.

 

[zamboni]

I envision a lot of controversy when artists from the 1770s are selected.

Nigel Nelson - vocals
Colin Cornwallis - fife
"Uncle" Samuel Adams - drum

Performing “Benedict, Get Your Gun” on Top of the Pops.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

I'm in.

 

[worrierking]

I'm still catching up on the "American thread".

Count me in.

 

[Don Quixote]

I was just double-checking The Small Faces and The Faces. They seem partially ineligible for period after Ronnie Lane left and was replaced by Tetsu Yamauchi in 1973. I think all that makes ineligible is “You Can Make Sing, Dance, or Anything ([long parenthetical that I’m not going to type out])” and the Coast to Coast live album.

He was also a member on Free’s Wishing Well.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Yes - various, check your lineups

Most of their “classics” are eligible.

guitarist and backing vocalist Trevor Rabin was South African - 90215 and Talk albums not eligible.

Some of the later live albums may not be eligible.

Patrick Moraz is Swiss, so anything from Relayer (1974) is ineligible.

Moraz also was a member of late-period Moody Blues, rendering songs from the following albums ineligible: Long Distance Voyager, The Present, The Other Side of Life and Sur La Mer. He left during sessions for Keys of the Kingdom and is credited as a guest musician on that one.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Yes - various, check your lineups

Most of their “classics” are eligible.

guitarist and backing vocalist Trevor Rabin was South African - 90215 and Talk albums not eligible.

Rabin also played on Big Generator and Union.

 

[krista4]

I was just double-checking The Small Faces and The Faces. They seem partially ineligible for period after Ronnie Lane left and was replaced by replaced by Tetsu Yamauchi in 1973. I think all that makes ineligible is “You Can Make Sing, Dance, or Anything ([long parenthetical that I’m not going to type out])” and the Coast to Coast live album.

He was also a member on Free’s Wishing Well.

Patrick Moraz is Swiss, so anything from Relayer (1974) is ineligible.

Moraz also was a member of late-period Moody Blues, rendering songs from the following albums ineligible: Long Distance Voyager, The Present, The Other Side of Life and Sur La Mer. He left during sessions for Keys of the Kingdom and is credited as a guest musician on that one.

Thanks for these. Will investigate and update as appropriate.

By the way, I am linking in the third post to these types of posts to give more context and information.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Dire Straits – releases with Hal Lindes or Jack Sonni (both US)

Songs from these albums are eligible

• Dire Straits (1978)
• Communiqué (1979)
• Making Movies (1980)
• Brothers in Arms (1985)
• On Every Street (1991)

Songs from these albums are not eligible

• Love over Gold (1982)

Jack Sonni was never an official member - he’s listed as “an additional musician” on Brothers In Arms.
Hal Lindes was an official member on Love Over Gold. He was also great on Barney Miller.

I couldn't care less since I'm not a fan of the band, but Jack Sonni is listed as a member on Wiki. However, as you pointed out, he's not listed on the page for Brothers in Arms. On the other hand, unfortunately Omar Hakim, born in New York, is listed as a member on that album, so it is still ineligible. I'll update post #3 just to reference the two ineligible albums.

ETA: Loved the Barney Miller reference.

It seems that for the majority of bands that get eliminated for having an American it’s due to the drummer.

Not enough Brits were hit with the rhythm stick.

 

[krista4]

I was just double-checking The Small Faces and The Faces. They seem partially ineligible for period after Ronnie Lane left and was replaced by Tetsu Yamauchi in 1973. I think all that makes ineligible is “You Can Make Sing, Dance, or Anything ([long parenthetical that I’m not going to type out])” and the Coast to Coast live album.

He was also a member on Free’s Wishing Well.

Looks like Free has an issue with John Bundrick (Texan), too.

 

[krista4]

I was just double-checking The Small Faces and The Faces. They seem partially ineligible for period after Ronnie Lane left and was replaced by Tetsu Yamauchi in 1973. I think all that makes ineligible is “You Can Make Sing, Dance, or Anything ([long parenthetical that I’m not going to type out])” and the Coast to Coast live album.

He was also a member on Free’s Wishing Well.

Looks like Free has an issue with John Bundrick (Texan), too.

And Bundrick also makes a little bit of The Who ineligible.

 

[Eephus]

Fans of mid-period Duran Duran beware - beginning in 1989, releases with Warren Cucurullo or Sterling Campbell are ineligible. (Note that they were both session musicians with the band before becoming full members in 1989, so the pre-1989 releases are OK.)

Thankfully that takes DD's cover of Public Enemy's "911 is a Joke" off the board.

 

[krista4]

Not enough Brits were hit with the rhythm stick.

Now I'm going to have that stuck in my head!

 

[zamboni]

These restrictions are adding up - may have to just take 31 skiffle songs.

 

[Eephus]

And Bundrick also makes a little bit of The Who ineligible.

I don't think Bundrick was ever an official member of the band.

Do Rabbits even count?

 

[Eephus]

Patrick Moraz is Swiss, so anything from Relayer (1974) is ineligible.

Moraz also was a member of late-period Moody Blues, rendering songs from the following albums ineligible: Long Distance Voyager, The Present, The Other Side of Life and Sur La Mer. He left during sessions for Keys of the Kingdom and is credited as a guest musician on that one.

He also eliminates Refugee for the Prog nerds

 

[Dr. Octopus]

And Bundrick also makes a little bit of The Who ineligible.

I don't think Bundrick was ever an official member of the band.

Do Rabbits even count?

He was just a touring musician.

 

[krista4]

And Bundrick also makes a little bit of The Who ineligible.

I don't think Bundrick was ever an official member of the band.

Do Rabbits even count?

I'm not sure...for Endless Wire he is listed under "The Who principal musicians," which are distinguished from "Additional musicians" (which is the attribution he had received before this album). It seems like that might make him a member. Is anyone really taking anything from that album anyway?

 

[krista4]

And Bundrick also makes a little bit of The Who ineligible.

I don't think Bundrick was ever an official member of the band.

Do Rabbits even count?

He was just a touring musician.

Well this is absolutely not true. He was on several albums and singles.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Dammit. Was looking forward to some Thin Lizzy.

 

[Eephus]

He was just a touring musician.

Darryl Jones has been touring with the Stones for as long as Bill Wyman was a member.

 

[Eephus]

Well this is absolutely not true. He was on several albums and singles.

I believe Rabbit was always credited as an additional musician. He got the Nicky Hopkins/Ian Stewart treatment.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Initial pass is telling me this one is a little harder as far as my personal faves. I think it's more top heavy with the Radioheads and Floyds, but I seem to be having a harder time after I get past about 10-15 bands.

 

[krista4]

Well this is absolutely not true. He was on several albums and singles.

I believe Rabbit was always credited as an additional musician. He got the Nicky Hopkins/Ian Stewart treatment.

See my post above. He was not credited this way on Endless Wire. I'm throwing that album out. All the rest are fine.

 

[krista4]

Initial pass is telling me this one is a little harder as far as my personal faves. I think it's more top heavy with the Radioheads and Floyds, but I seem to be having a harder time after I get past about 10-15 bands.

Same here. I doubled-up twice on the US and will mostly avoid double-ups here, but it's more difficult for me.

 

[zamboni]

Dammit. Was looking forward to some Thin Lizzy.

Wait - what?

ETA: oh right, that infernal Scott Gorham

 

[Eephus]

Dammit. Was looking forward to some Thin Lizzy.

Wait - what?

ETA: oh right, that infernal Scott Gorham

The first three records are OK but the definitive Gorham/Moore lineup is off the board

 

[KarmaPolice]

Yeah, I should have been clear with Thin Lizzy. More the main songs I was excited about highlighting are crossed off.

 

[zamboni]

Dammit. Was looking forward to some Thin Lizzy.

Wait - what?

ETA: oh right, that infernal Scott Gorham

The first three records are OK but the definitive Gorham/Moore lineup is off the board

I was eyeing the Lynott/Gorham/Robertson/Downey lineup, but no matter.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

He was just a touring musician.

Darryl Jones has been touring with the Stones for as long as Bill Wyman was a member.

Longer now.

 

[Hov34]

IN

Although The Police ineligible stings a bit.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Initial pass is telling me this one is a little harder as far as my personal faves. I think it's more top heavy with the Radioheads and Floyds, but I seem to be having a harder time after I get past about 10-15 bands.

Same here. I doubled-up twice on the US and will mostly avoid double-ups here, but it's more difficult for me.

To narrow things down, I didn't even overlap with personnel. As in, if I took a Beatles record, I didn't take any solo Beatles records. There is one person who overlaps my regular list and my Last 5 Out. (It's not Paul Weller, which may surprise some of you.)

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Yes - various, check your lineups

Most of their “classics” are eligible.

guitarist and backing vocalist Trevor Rabin was South African - 90215 and Talk albums not eligible.

Some of the later live albums may not be eligible.

Patrick Moraz is Swiss, so anything from Relayer (1974) is ineligible.

Moraz also was a member of late-period Moody Blues, rendering songs from the following albums ineligible: Long Distance Voyager, The Present, The Other Side of Life and Sur La Mer. He left during sessions for Keys of the Kingdom and is credited as a guest musician on that one.

Rats, My song for this group is from this period. Looks like I have an entry for the draft after this one. (Another entry, I mean.)

 

[krista4]

As in, if I took a Beatles record, I didn't take any solo Beatles records.

Good job. I will not be doing this.

 

[Hawks64]

I would like to procure a ticket on this journey into madness!

 

[Hawks64]

Oh and I can do the playlists once again, unless someone else wants it.

 

[krista4]

I have a list in already, plus a "last five out."

 

[krista4]

I have a list in already, plus a "last five out."

And it has fantastic formatting.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Looking at the US thread I think I get the shtick...it's not actually the top 31 songs.

It's where music snobs get to show off how deep their musical library goes by proclaiming that the actual #1 song of all time is their bootleg collaboration between an adolescent Adam Ant and Mott the Hoople recorded in 1974 at the Old Trippe to Jerusalem pub recorded by a roused out of bed at 2 AM already hung over John Timperley.

I'm so in.

 

[Chaos34]

I have a list in already, plus a "last five out."

It took some thinking but I finally picked a song I think will make my top 31.

I'm working on the formatting.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I have a list in already, plus a "last five out."

I was off work this week and I needed something to take my mind off things because I don't think we're going to have Cassidy for much longer.

 

[krista4]

Looking at the US thread I think I get the shtick...it's not actually the top 31 songs.

It's where music snobs get to show off how deep their musical library goes by proclaiming that the actual #1 song of all time is their bootleg collaboration between an adolescent Adam Ant and Mott the Hoople recorded in 1974 at the Old Trippe to Jerusalem pub recorded by a roused out of bed at 2 AM already hung over John Timperley.

I'm so in.

This on Spotify?

 

[krista4]

I have a list in already, plus a "last five out."

I was off work this week and I needed something to take my mind off things because I don't think we're going to have Cassidy for much longer.

Aw, I'm so sorry. It had sounded like Cassidy had been doing better.