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Getcha passports ready - the middle-aged dummies are going to the British Isles! Top 31 song countdown. (4 Viewers)

Speaking of The Cure and The Smiths, which one do you think will end up with more points?
I'm sticking with the Cure.
I have 20 lists in and vetted, so that means tomorrow is update time!

In the meantime, let's discuss again the ideas for contests this time. I think favorite artist and favorite song combined would still be a good one, as we did last time. I also like the idea of guessing the top 10 excluding the Big Three. Another good idea was top song from each of the Big Three, though maybe that's too duplicative of the first one. Am I forgetting any? I'm willing to fund charitable contributions for the favorite artist/song combo and one more, whichever we decide on as a group.

I think doing the top 10 is a good idea, even including the big 3, b/c I don't think there's a lot of consensus on what order that top 3 will show up in (okay, maybe #1 is pretty much settled). That's also simple, and easy to kind of set out. And then maybe you ask how many songs from each of the top 3 (or bump it to 5 if you want).
 
I think doing the top 10 is a good idea, even including the big 3, b/c I don't think there's a lot of consensus on what order that top 3 will show up in (okay, maybe #1 is pretty much settled). That's also simple, and easy to kind of set out. And then maybe you ask how many songs from each of the top 3 (or bump it to 5 if you want).

#1 artist is nowhere near settled. :) More on that tomorrow.

The "top 10" contest would just be naming which other artists make it, not really the order, though the tiebreaker would likely involve the order.
 
Another quiz based on prior discussion: which will end up with more points, Genesis or solo Peter Gabriel?

Solo PG. I suspect Genesis may have songs on more lists, but Gabriel's songs will rank higher and outscore Genesis. This one is a harder call for me than Smiths-Cure.
 
I have 20 lists in and vetted, so that means tomorrow is update time!

In the meantime, let's discuss again the ideas for contests this time. I think favorite artist and favorite song combined would still be a good one, as we did last time. I also like the idea of guessing the top 10 excluding the Big Three. Another good idea was top song from each of the Big Three, though maybe that's too duplicative of the first one. Am I forgetting any? I'm willing to fund charitable contributions for the favorite artist/song combo and one more, whichever we decide on as a group.
A fun, but maybe overly complicated one might be something on the lines of submitting a list of guesses for 5 fellow drafters. For each one, you have a band and song that you think will be on their playlist. Maybe for ease, the song has to be for the band you guess?

It is fun and overly complicated, but I don't mind the complicated nature so much as that I don't want people to feel left out. Many know each other's tastes well from other music threads, but we have people participating in these countdowns who haven't been in a lot of music drafts.
 
I have 20 lists in and vetted, so that means tomorrow is update time!

In the meantime, let's discuss again the ideas for contests this time. I think favorite artist and favorite song combined would still be a good one, as we did last time. I also like the idea of guessing the top 10 excluding the Big Three. Another good idea was top song from each of the Big Three, though maybe that's too duplicative of the first one. Am I forgetting any? I'm willing to fund charitable contributions for the favorite artist/song combo and one more, whichever we decide on as a group.
A fun, but maybe overly complicated one might be something on the lines of submitting a list of guesses for 5 fellow drafters. For each one, you have a band and song that you think will be on their playlist. Maybe for ease, the song has to be for the band you guess?

It is fun and overly complicated, but I don't mind the complicated nature so much as that I don't want people to feel left out. Many know each other's tastes well from other music threads, but we have people participating in these countdowns who haven't been in a lot of music drafts.
Very good point.
 
Another quiz based on prior discussion: which will end up with more points, Genesis or solo Peter Gabriel?
I can see it being close, but I'll guess solo Gabriel.

I suspect solo Gabriel + Genesis songs sung by Gabriel far outpaces solo Collins + Genesis songs sung by Collins, though.

Interesting. I expect Collins Genesis songs to outscore Gabriel Genesis songs, but Gabriel solo songs to outscore Collins solo songs. Will be interesting to see how this overall comparison shakes out.
 
How many participants will have Collins, Gabriel, AND both, with Genesis on their list? How many will have none?

After I typed this I realized it sounds like I'm playin this lil piggy

@krista4 - what is our current contestant count these days?

...was thinking about Manster's questions

I don’t understand any of these questions.
I think the first question is how many people with have a solo Collins, a solo Gabriel, a Gabriel era Genesis song and a Collins led Genesis song.
If that’s the question, I’ll guess “0”.

I think Binkys question is a convoluted way to ask “how many people are submitting lists?” - the answer to which is on the first page.
 
How many participants will have Collins, Gabriel, AND both, with Genesis on their list? How many will have none?

After I typed this I realized it sounds like I'm playin this lil piggy

@krista4 - what is our current contestant count these days?

...was thinking about Manster's questions

I don’t understand any of these questions.
I think the first question is how many people with have a solo Collins, a solo Gabriel, a Gabriel era Genesis song and a Collins led Genesis song.
If that’s the question, I’ll guess “0”.


I think Binkys question is a convoluted way to ask “how many people are submitting lists?” - the answer to which is on the first page.
... and I will add that any participant who does should get their invite for the next one revoked. ;)
 
I have never "got" The Cure. I can't say I've really tried that hard, but I can say that I am familiar with some of their stuff and am currently underwhelmed. I don't hate them, but as I said, I have never "got" them or understood their appeal.

It's possible I am ambivalent because a really annoying lady here at work loves them. She is always talking about The Cure, Taylor Swift and Rick Springfield (a bit of an odd trio).

Like Bill Murray in Stripes, I am willing to learn. Can somebody who really likes them give me info on why you do? What is special/different about them? Or, maybe someone has a playlist of their best stuff that might appeal to me? Thanks in advance.

Always looking for new music.
 
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Like Bill Murray in Stripes, I am willing to learn. Can somebody who really likes them give me info on why you do? What is special/different about them? Or, maybe someone has a playlist of their best stuff that might appeal to me? Thanks in advance.

Always looking for new music.
I'm sure there will be some favorites by them on some people's 31 list.
 
Maybe I and only a few others will like it, but I thought maybe another of the guessing contests could have to do with Hard rock/Metal artists?
In general, I am going to try to be more involved in the guessing games, and selecting faves from each round. And you know I def dig the idea of a rock/metal one. 🤘
When thinking about it, IMO there is the core 3 for metal in this one. If others are in agreement about that, we could do similar to our general guesses- top point getter song for each of those 3, and/or what the next 3 or artists will be for the genre as far as total points.
 
How many participants will have Collins, Gabriel, AND both, with Genesis on their list? How many will have none?

After I typed this I realized it sounds like I'm playin this lil piggy

@krista4 - what is our current contestant count these days?

...was thinking about Manster's questions

I don’t understand any of these questions.

krista reaction.

how many people are submitting lists - do we know yet? :D
 
How many participants will have Collins, Gabriel, AND both, with Genesis on their list? How many will have none?

After I typed this I realized it sounds like I'm playin this lil piggy

@krista4 - what is our current contestant count these days?

...was thinking about Manster's questions

I don’t understand any of these questions.
I think the first question is how many people with have a solo Collins, a solo Gabriel, a Gabriel era Genesis song and a Collins led Genesis song.
If that’s the question, I’ll guess “0”.


I think Binkys question is a convoluted way to ask “how many people are submitting lists?” - the answer to which is on the first page.
... and I will add that any participant who does should get their invite for the next one revoked. ;)

yeah, that's a little much with all the other choices out there.

overall, I prefer the Gabriel led Genesis - but my favorite album is "Trick of the Tail" right after Gabriel left.

they stayed pretty true to their prior approach and sound - not a bad song on the album.
 
How many participants will have Collins, Gabriel, AND both, with Genesis on their list? How many will have none?

After I typed this I realized it sounds like I'm playin this lil piggy

@krista4 - what is our current contestant count these days?

...was thinking about Manster's questions

I don’t understand any of these questions.
I think the first question is how many people with have a solo Collins, a solo Gabriel, a Gabriel era Genesis song and a Collins led Genesis song.
If that’s the question, I’ll guess “0”.


I think Binkys question is a convoluted way to ask “how many people are submitting lists?” - the answer to which is on the first page.
... and I will add that any participant who does should get their invite for the next one revoked. ;)

yeah, that's a little much with all the other choices out there.

overall, I prefer the Gabriel led Genesis - but my favorite album is "Trick of the Tail" right after Gabriel left.

they stayed pretty true to their prior approach and sound - not a bad song on the album.

desert island album for me. i always draft the same track from it, and inked it in when i started. another member here loves it as much as me and picks another song. the song doesn't really matter. it's the whole album and it is certainly not for everyone. i like the story they tell about trying to replace peter. phil would teach the prospects the song. they'd audtion. never good enough. finally the band talked phil into being a lead singer, for better here and for worse later, i suppose.
 
How many participants will have Collins, Gabriel, AND both, with Genesis on their list? How many will have none?

After I typed this I realized it sounds like I'm playin this lil piggy

@krista4 - what is our current contestant count these days?

...was thinking about Manster's questions

I don’t understand any of these questions.

krista reaction.

how many people are submitting lists - do we know yet? :D
This morning I counted 44 on the front page, but I'm not overly confident in my early morning math abilities.
 
also, chaosburgers just heard me listening to a favorite song from her childhood. she was happy i was using it. i told her i was relistening because it is on the chopping block. she said, "nooooo! i need to make a list for you dummies." i told her to do it (she won't). she said she would. if i'm wrong and she does, prepare for harry styles and his ilk.
 
How many participants will have Collins, Gabriel, AND both, with Genesis on their list? How many will have none?

After I typed this I realized it sounds like I'm playin this lil piggy

@krista4 - what is our current contestant count these days?

...was thinking about Manster's questions

I don’t understand any of these questions.

krista reaction.

how many people are submitting lists - do we know yet? :D
This morning I counted 44 on the front page, but I'm not overly confident in my early morning math abilities.

i tried to count the beatles songs in my sales pitch to pik. three times i came up with a different number. i probably got it wrong all three times. math. pff
 
Doing "research" pre and post list submission, and there are a few random things that I think I underestimate and under rate and i need to reevaluate:

Early Maiden
Priest
Some Girls album
new wave/electronica in general. I really dug a lot of the songs my wife was sending my way, and it was mostly that stuff. (just don't tell her I was enjoying it that much ;) )
 
Doing "research" pre and post list submission, and there are a few random things that I think I underestimate and under rate and i need to reevaluate:

Early Maiden
Priest
Some Girls album
new wave/electronica in general. I really dug a lot of the songs my wife was sending my way, and it was mostly that stuff. (just don't tell her I was enjoying it that much ;) )
It should be an interesting countdown. I’m looking forward to slapping my head for overlooking something and I’m sure I’ll be introduced to new stuff, although my guess is I’ll know more songs in this one each round than in the last one.
I listen to the purple mountains song from the American countdown very often now. Still have to go deeper with that and with Silver Jews stuff. Been in more of a British mode lately though for obvious reasons.
 
Sorry not to post any updates earlier. I haven't felt quite right today.

If you guys want a heavy metal/hard rock guessing game, it's fine, but someone else would have to lay out the parameters, as I have no idea.

UPDATES AFTER 20 LISTS

Our #2 and #3 artists switched yet again, and though #1 has hung in at that spot for a while, it is extremely close. This is likely the only time I'll give specific point-values, but our #1 and #2 are separated by only 12 points, 566-554. That's just how close it is going to be. Your vote counts. One of our Big Three has appeared on 19 of 20 lists.

While our Big Three each have more than 500 total points, no other artist has garnered 400 points yet, and in fact only three other artists have broken the 300-point mark, so this Big Three really is shaping up to be distantly ahead of the others. One of the three artists with 300+ points seems to have the most fervent fans, as they are averaging over 24 points per vote received. No one outside of the Big Three is coming close to that average.

Now that I think about it, highest average points per vote would be a good contest for artists.

Not a lot more to say about artists, as they are starting to settle into some tiers without as much extreme movement.

For the first time in one of my updates, we have the same leader for the Ace Award that we did last time! This artist even gained an additional vote for their one-and-only song, as did the current runner-up.

The Genesis vs. Peter Gabriel solo discussion came up at an interesting time, as they were right next to each other in the rankings until the last five lists were processed. Each received more votes in these five, but their order has switched.

I'm tired and feeling feverish and have no idea what to say about the song rankings. There are a lot of votes for a lot of songs.
 
Doing "research" pre and post list submission, and there are a few random things that I think I underestimate and under rate and i need to reevaluate:

Early Maiden
Priest
Some Girls album
new wave/electronica in general. I really dug a lot of the songs my wife was sending my way, and it was mostly that stuff. (just don't tell her I was enjoying it that much ;) )

OH was playing all British Isles music today auditioning songs for his list, and I did not have the same experience. One seemed to be a kazoo band.
 
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Doing "research" pre and post list submission, and there are a few random things that I think I underestimate and under rate and i need to reevaluate:

Early Maiden
Priest
Some Girls album
new wave/electronica in general. I really dug a lot of the songs my wife was sending my way, and it was mostly that stuff. (just don't tell her I was enjoying it that much ;) )

OH was playing all British music today auditioning songs for his list, and I did not have the same experience. One seemed to be a kazoo band.
If it was paired with a searing lead guitar, that song almost made my almost list.
 
Doing "research" pre and post list submission, and there are a few random things that I think I underestimate and under rate and i need to reevaluate:

Early Maiden
Priest
Some Girls album
new wave/electronica in general. I really dug a lot of the songs my wife was sending my way, and it was mostly that stuff. (just don't tell her I was enjoying it that much ;) )

OH was playing all British music today auditioning songs for his list, and I did not have the same experience. One seemed to be a kazoo band.
If it was paired with a searing lead guitar, that song almost made my almost list.

Wait, are you doing a list?!
 
Maybe I and only a few others will like it, but I thought maybe another of the guessing contests could have to do with Hard rock/Metal artists?
Sorry to be a buzz kill, but as one of the hard rock guys I'm guessing the bands you're thinking of struck out with me. Alternative, yes, but metal? Snake eyes in the british isles.
 
Doing "research" pre and post list submission, and there are a few random things that I think I underestimate and under rate and i need to reevaluate:

Early Maiden
Priest
Some Girls album
new wave/electronica in general. I really dug a lot of the songs my wife was sending my way, and it was mostly that stuff. (just don't tell her I was enjoying it that much ;) )

OH was playing all British music today auditioning songs for his list, and I did not have the same experience. One seemed to be a kazoo band.
If it was paired with a searing lead guitar, that song almost made my almost list.

Wait, are you doing a list?!
Yes, I have one. Need to trim a little fat and verify Anglo authenticity before submitting. I'll be working on it if I'm not in here chirping.
 
Maybe I and only a few others will like it, but I thought maybe another of the guessing contests could have to do with Hard rock/Metal artists?
Sorry to be a buzz kill, but as one of the hard rock guys I'm guessing the bands you're thinking of struck out with me. Alternative, yes, but metal? Snake eyes in the british isles.
I can think of three top level Brit metal bands without breaking a sweat.
 
I have never "got" The Cure... Can somebody who really likes them give me info on why you do? What is special/different about them? Or, maybe someone has a playlist of their best stuff that might appeal to me? Thanks in advance.

I probably like them mainly because they were one of the first new wave bands I listened to, and they hit their height of popularity while I was in college, so they got a lot of airplay at a time when I was really expanding my musical exposure and taste. I like their musical style, particularly their bass lines.

Here is my current Cure playlist:

1 Purple Haze - Stone Free: A Tribute To Jimi Hendrix
2 Jumping Someone Else's Train - Staring At The Sea: The Singles
3 Let's Go To Bed - Staring At The Sea: The Singles
4 The Love Cats - Staring At The Sea: The Singles
5 In Between Days - Staring At The Sea: The Singles
6 Close To Me - Staring At The Sea: The Singles
7 A Night Like This - Staring At The Sea: The Singles
8 The Kiss - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
9 Catch - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
10 Torture - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
11 If Only Tonight We Could Sleep - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
12 Why Can't I Be You? - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
13 How Beautiful You Are - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
14 The Snakepit - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
15 Just Like Heaven - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
16 All I Want - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
17 Hot Hot Hot!!! - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
18 One More Time - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
19 Like Cockatoos - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
20 Icing Sugar - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
21 The Perfect Girl - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
22 A Thousand Hours - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
23 Shiver And Shake - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
24 Fight - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
25 Pictures Of You - Disintegration
26 Love Song - Disintegration
27 Lullaby - Disintegration
28 Fascination Street - Disintegration
29 Just Like Heaven (Unplugged) - Greatest Hits
 

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